The Krays: London's Most Notorious Twins | Real Crime

[@scionixx9568]

Tom Hardy played them great in that movie!

[@danfosdyck2518]

What was the title of the movie please

[@andrewthorpe426]

Legend

[@scionixx9568]

@@danfosdyck2518 it’s called “legend”

[@akschmidt2085]

He did

[@alrtbh]

indeed

[@minkles1330]

My mum who was born in 1942 says she remembers being at the dance halls when the Kray twins would come in, they were like celebrities. You didn't approach them, you just stayed out of their way.

[@bhenchordsingh5028]

Ure mum was the local bike hahahahahahahahah I remember ure mum me n the lads all had a go

[@Belisarius536]

@@bhenchordsingh5028 I showed this to my grandad and even he said he remembered minkles mum. Haha

[@Tom-S1981]

I remember those days. But I remember your mum even more

[@dodobest6466]

What a nonce document,dying Reggie dont have money for a room and Ronnie has funeral like queen?😂😂😂who paid that?

[@ForbiddenFruit-iy8hu]

Your mum killed my uncle riding his face

[@tokenpoptart3750]

A paranoid schizophrenic walks into a bar...

[@Ironz89]

And farts in someone’s face

[@michaelharrison3602]

Yeah we've seen the film

[@robosborne5489]

and says "Ouch" because it was an iron bar full of iron hoofs ?

[@olimot8081]

Why are you always talking about me!

[@benjaminkoontz7798]

It’s disturbing that people get such enjoyment from hurting others

[@David-uf8ex]

Just look at our governments more frightening as it’s legal

[@arricammarques1955]

@@David-uf8ex Your spot on, mate.

[@emmaransford]

I don't condone what they did to people that was appalling. But they were fascinating 🤔 because they their so famous for being identical twins 🙄 I enjoy following social history documentaries.

[@arricammarques1955]

East end legends with a violent history. Admire them with reservations.

[@chrisferns5352]

Post war Britain the East end was the worst hit if u can't have it u take it no coincidence that the greatest robberies carried out by east Londoners if u cant have it u take it

[@wesleydoolin7655]

come on here to watch ads but kept getting interrupted by a kray's documentary

[@kevinbernard9791]

I was living in Walthamstow when reg died and watching his procession past was like nothing I've seen before. I've had a slight obsession evil since of their story. LEGEND is fantastic

[@Straight-Outta-Nottingham]

Uwotm8

[@rebellefleur841]

I absolutely love the movie "Legend" about them & I've done some research on the twins but man! This is a great video!!

[@rambo2751]

Its all codswallop worst cardboard criminal's in England

[@paulanthony5274]

It's crap and it's depressing with boring morose music

[@laurarules3642]

@Public Nuisance I agree the movie gets too much praise . It was more like a tragic love story than a gangster film. If they had cut the wife out and made it all about the Krays crimes and violence it would have been a classic

[@thewhitedoncheadle8345]

you read wikipedia then

[@BlytheWorld1972]

Cant believe how good Martin Kemp is at voice over work ..

[@lizzy66125]

he played one of the krays,I think Reggie

[@64andyjh]

I was trtying to fugure out if it was him or Gary!

[@ElmugreTV]

Yes, he is fantastic at talking

[@colmmeade1824]

Yes have to agree instantly recognisable

[@bigbernie7260]

​@@ElmugreTV Pity he couldn't sing or play an instrument.

[@jacksimper5725]

They are said to have made more money from being inside prison with their business dealings than any amount they made outside .

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

Harry Grout wing ?

[@swarthyjake4433]

Eddy Richardson , "me and my brother can beat you and your brother" , play ground talk from an old man.

[@stephenreeds3632]

I know it is rather sad isn't it?

[@HopliteWarlord]

Me and my bruvva!!

[@Tom-S1981]

Amazing how a washed up wannabe can still act like that . Shameful

[@B.1991.P]

I get they got to act tough. But Ron and Reg would have chewed them both up.

[@sinister2623]

@@B.1991.Pthe honest of god truth😭

[@i.marr.6688]

Smith wasn't murdered he fled to Australia ,then came back to England he died in Luton in 2004

[@Newdivide]

Tom Hardy played both the Kray twins and Charles Bronson. In fact, while Bronson was in a mental asylum, he met the twins and described them as “the nicest guys he ever met”.

[@ryanvranch770]

True…. Look at parliament lmaoo

[@coffeecrimegal5968]

I have yet to see that movie. I heard that Tom Hardy was absolutely amazing as both Kray boys?!

[@333invitado]

@@coffeecrimegal5968 he, absolutely was! Played both of them in such a detailed and creative way my mum thought it was 2 different actors playing them! Brilliant performances 👌🏻👌🏻💯💫

[@thehomefront1905]

Tom Hardy film was absolutely nothing like them.

[@leonleon2276]

Mug

[@akschmidt2085]

Martin Kemp as narrator was a great choice

[@billsamuls7620]

nutters

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Yeah, because spandau ballet are really 'gangster' aren't they lmfao.

[@RetroRegan]

I agree. Having played Reggie I guess he had quite an insight into the Krays.

[@tonyhoodlass1846]

@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 Didn't even look the part

[@benjaminkoontz7798]

When I see people being harmed or in any kind of pain physical or emotional it hurts me in a way that’s hard to describe

[@MrDnbfreak]

Go watch disturbed reality channel

[@rambo2751]

Dont watch them then its not as if ya didnt know they were slightly violent

[@chrisseavey8958]

Check out faces of death

[@laurarules3642]

It's a load of lies that the Krays never harmed normal working men, of course they did and its documented . And one of the twins beat up his wife regular so they hurt women too.

[@admiralbenbow5083]

Too right. I hate bullies. They make me angry. I have never been bullied probably because at school I was fairly large , in sports teams etc which helps, but I along with others always stepped in if there was a hint. The next worst thing to a bully are the spineless people who sit back and let it happen to someone else.

[@keithcole9904]

Shared a cell with "Reg" for 2 years...I still have a sore arse to this day...Great times

[@harrywood6150]

😂

[@Spicypepperjack]

😆 🤣 😂

[@nige5902]

😂😂

[@Rajmaclart]

Did he bend you up like a pretzel?

[@paulkillick527]

Straight up the Bakerloo line 😂

[@michaelmurtagh8898]

Thanks for this documentary.

[@timothydigiuseppe1753]

I have not read all the comments. At about 10:00 minutes into the video, there is a photograph of three persons with one of the Kray twins in the center. I notice in this image the woman to the right. She appears to be Christine Keeler, who, during the early 1960s, was involved in a relationship with John Profumo. At the time, John Profumo was married to Valerie Hobson, a British film star from the 1930s through the 1950s. Profumo was also Secretary of State for War, and the resultant scandal, thought to involve national security, was extensively covered by the press and forced Profumo's resignation.

[@roytetwart]

Excellent documentary! First-class!

[@migspit]

Hamilton has claimed Ronnie burnt him with the pokers before now, on here he says he didn't

[@mickeyjohno6231]

Ron even had another patient dress up as his butler while in Broadmoor. That made me laugh when I heard that.

[@E-D-E2704]

After serving tea the butler had to change into a french maid's outfit ..while smearing a handful of engine grease on his man hole! 😉

[@64andyjh]

I grew up in Bethnal Green in the years following the Krays' incarceration, and I can confirm that in some quarters, they are still revered and considered heroes, rather than the bloodthirsty murderers they were

[@freemanontheland507]

Wow, no thumbs up apart from 1...SHOCKING...

[@irishninja2009]

How many did these corner boys kill?

[@jaygee4345]

So many bars & restaurants in Chicago have framed photos of Al Capone on the wall, he's seen as a folk hero but he was a monster.

[@sandrapower3250]

Well said 👏

[@tyriekmacey5281]

Wow 😳

[@tomwelch1753]

Kicked ten bells out of me, proper gentlemen they were!

[@englishmadcow7461]

So proud of my East London heritage. Grew up hearing stories about the Krays.

[@danielnewton5867]

They were horrible

[@BillyHayes79Music]

Imagine being proud of these scum bags.

[@thewaywelive2775]

Whoa you must have nothing going on in your life

[@clouddog2393]

l,d say the Krays and the sickening legacy they left behind is a insult to your East London heritage . More fool you and others who admired and looked up to these sadistic psychopaths .

[@chrisferns5352]

Proud of my east London heritage aswell his not condoning there actions no more then Chicago or Americans did al capone come on people

[@Cani6al]

Doing life at 35 years of age and NEVER EVER GETTING OUT … I know reggie did when he was Phuket but …. Is an absolute waste of a life … it is absolutely unbelievable. 35 is incredibly young . Behind bars for the rest of your life mixing with fellow criminals is drastic . I would rather do a shitty job in a factory .. paid a shit wage , look after my family as best I can and bring my kids up to the best of my ability . That’s the true meaning of being a male .

[@MalteseAnodonis]

That last bit, much love ❤️

[@jeffreybamford1171]

you reap what you sow mate.. karma's a mean bitch ..bunch of shirt lifters anyway..

[@stephenjones529]

Absolute losers in my eyes

[@gowdsake7103]

They chose to be assholes !

[@andyaitken4243]

Basically they knew too much and the establishment couldn’t have them free to talk about what they knew.

[@georgecaspira]

Only reason the Krays were hunted and jailed is because they had loads of pictures of powerful people with kids.

[@jamisonbernhardt3310]

Lol

[@terryjenkins9955]

No. They refused to pay off the OB

[@paulanthony5274]

I doubt nipper was on the take though, doesn't seem the type, posh git for a copper

[@Ironz89]

This is true and it was there way of getting off at the trial but Charlie accidentally burnt it

[@michaelharrison3602]

So if they hadn't they would have got probation for killing Cornell and Mcvitie? But you've got a point they probably would have been released before they served 30years whatever the judges recommendation I really don't think it was because anyone thought they would take over the underworld

[@daviddaviscrawford3669]

great documentary! real gonzo reporting! on the cusp

[@Bicep1]

The guy at the end on the table of 3 is the only one who said it like it is!! The others... seems like they are still living in the glamour of it ....def Maureen. That was all a bit sickening !! and shouldn't to be talked of with a smile if your truly remorseful of any involvement of those 2 during those times.

[@paulanthony5274]

Be quiet

[@Bicep1]

@@paulanthony5274 you wouldn't say that to my face! So take your reply and apply to yourself ...

[@chrisk7082]

Totally agree

[@tonyhoodlass1846]

They had good in em

[@chrisk7082]

@@tonyhoodlass1846 Fundamentally they were a pair of bullying scumbags who wouldn’t have lasted 2 minutes in todays underground world. They were both extremely violent and very very thick!

[@gee_emm]

Why is this stuff so fascinating?!?

[@Blamejames78]

Because it’s actually events that took place with people who were feared. Not like the media crap you see now, and all these “gangsters” we have in the uk these days. They had respect

[@tarhunta2111]

Because people are empty.

[@Blamejames78]

@@tarhunta2111 explain? As been empty and finding a subject or documentary interesting and fascinating. Has absolutely relation to one an other. Think your probably the empty personality, not use who find it interesting, why were you looking at the comments if you weren’t watching the video? If your just trolling then your the sad empty soul, not us. So go back your room in time for mummy to bring your milk and cookies. And kiss you good night.

[@gee_emm]

@@Blamejames78 lol!

[@JL-hg9fo]

For me, I just can't believe people do this stuff ,unimaginable..that's why it's interesting

[@robosborne5489]

Like any criminals their time at the top never lasted forever. When you get involved in that lifestyle you never win , you either end up in prison or being killed by someone wanting your perch. I agree with Eddie Richardson , they would have flogged Ronnie and Reggie

[@margothatcher8178]

Rob no one lasts for ever, none of us are here for ever. But America is going down hill fast you just kill each other in the thousands each weekend and these are ordinary people walking the streets because Democrats love it you have the biggest Gangster in America who set women up to make out they had sex with famous people, now their lawyer is in jail and Stormy owes President Trump a fortune. The Russian collusion and corruption all crap, Russian Prostitutes being peed on all made up crap, Hillary and her fake dossier more crap, the Capitol fake crap made up by Pelosi and the FBI. Strozk and lover working for the FBI betraying a President working in Taxpayers time trying to destroy him all those criminals are walking free. No government should be wasting tax payers money. Trump was a great guy to them when he was a democrat, soon as he became a Republican the knives came out. Like Oprah she used him on her shows people loved him but she is a democrat out came the knives when he became a Republican, Whoopie Goldberg was good friends with Trump but now he is a Republican she hates his guts and many other awful movie stars, look a Will Smith a complete fruit cake, Ricky Jervis took the piss out of all of you no one slapped him in the face, It took a black bloke to smack another black bloke in the face, just like BLM burnt down America killing and looting we Allies are not surprised they kill each other in the thousands in a month. Gradually America is falling apart with the help of the creatures of Hollywood. It's all a load of bollocks at the taxpayers expense. Trump was the best thing that happened to America look what you have now Biden. Allies are not happy.

[@deeppurple883]

Without a doubt. That punishment did go on, the Cat. Corprol punishment was evil. The poor were the whipping boy's for authorities, literally. From the polices, court's, prison, school's , the street's, home. Violence is part of survival when poor, then and now.

[@michaelharrison3602]

I wish documentaries would stop referring to O,Mahoney as former friend he never knew the twins before they went to jail

[@Dmc841]

@@michaelharrison3602 you can still be mates in prison u know.

[@michaelharrison3602]

@@Dmc841 course you can but I don't think he was ever " in prison " with them he visited Reggie just like Courtney and every other wannabe celebrity gangster

[@deeppurple883]

If Freddy hadn't been a gangster he would have been a great actor. That was his other calling, this is how he operated. He put people as ease like when he was a theif he was brezen he did things that was in your face normal. That's why people didn't think he was dangerous when in fact he was deadly. 😔

[@philip-at-tube]

His son became an actor.

[@samsprrr3548]

His son played Jack brannings brother Derek branning .

[@chrisk7082]

I’m so fed up with the glorification of these two nasty overestimated criminals. “They were so charming and held doors open for old ladies” oh that’s makes their thuggery totally acceptable then? 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@johnlaslett5339]

Must be painful being you if two men who were active long before you were even born, and happen to be dead, can bother you so much. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🐑

[@chrisk7082]

@@johnlaslett5339 Very strange logic. Are you a “fan” of theirs. They were a pair of violent morons. Clever criminals don’t get caught and end up dying in prison. They were also bullies. I’m not a fan of bullies.

[@prochoicenotantivax119]

Better when they were around than now London full off wannabe gangsters

[@freddiedenler1176]

If you would've said that to them back then they would've slapped the shit outta you😂🤣🤷‍♂️💯

[@chrisk7082]

@@freddiedenler1176 I would have battered the pair of them at the same time. 😂😂

[@PC-lu3zf]

I’ve read Reggie repented in prison and became a very religious man. Maybe he saw finally he had lived a bad life. They may have been criminals but they still have a myth around them that’s interesting.

[@chiricahuaapache5132]

Yes, but he had a penchant for young, blonde haired prisoners, effeminate ones.

[@NeiveVeve]

I am interested in the myth. Can you recommend any reading or documentaries, thanks!

[@NeiveVeve]

@@chiricahuaapache5132 I like your name. I live near the Chiricahua mountains in southwest New Mexico and Arizona. My great grandmother is half Apache and half German. She was beautiful, a couple of people drew her portrait.

[@mariaolden640]

How strange is it that people accept serial killers because its hidden behind "organised crime" and even glamourised! Imagine bumping into Dahmer and being chuffed about it? People actually wanted to be around them though! Madness 💁‍♀️💁‍♀️

[@valerieneal2747]

I know...l can never understand the adoration

[@Nelle-uj3eg]

Glorifying killers?! Nope!

[@danrobinson572]

Awesome 👏 documentary

[@myunknownland9272]

No father authority in my children's house. As a single mum. Non ended badly. They contribute to society.

[@robintaylor8450]

Respect to you 💯 % you should be called a legend not the likes of these I'm a twin but I'm not bad like these pair iv had a good upbringing and I work with my twin and contribute to society aswell and I'm proud of that 😊

[@myunknownland9272]

@@robintaylor8450 🙌🙏💕

[@prochoicenotantivax119]

You could argue they contributed to society by keeping the streets safe

[@tonyhoodlass1846]

@@prochoicenotantivax119 spot on mate

[@prochoicenotantivax119]

@@robintaylor8450 the biggest villains are in parliament and your funding there lavish lifestyle are you still proud now

[@sethpujol1704]

This video was so informative. The fact that they admitted the Kray's would've been killed had they not gone to prison when they did cause they were so out of control. They made a good movie about them "legend" but at the end of the day they were just two mentally unstable serial killers in the mob who were out of control and people still idolize them and glorify them it's pretty sad. People feared them more than they respected them back then but this goes to show you that nobody's untouchable because had they not been arrested for murder they would've been taken out themselves.

[@codict4554]

They weren’t so hard when Michael Gaughan and the IRA prisoners stood up against them for attacking Jamaican prisoners 🇮🇪🤝🇯🇲

[@Ishbikes]

Explain more

[@MichelleMybelle61]

My Father in-law and family grew up with the Krays ..They told us a few stories.. Reggie sang Maggie underneath aunt Margarets window..My mother in law had the twin Pram from Mrs Kray.. While at school Ronnie was kicked out of a Saturday matinee,he returned and assaulted the cinema manager with a bike chain .Other tales while growing up

[@hogdaddy3768]

Cool story bro. You should talk to Netflix and see what they can offer you. Or you could talk to a printing firm and release a book of your memoirs

[@Mikelitoris666]

How young do you think the Kray brother started Buggaring eachother?

[@hogdaddy3768]

@@Mikelitoris666 5

[@conorhaddock3956]

Did he mention reggies noncing?

[@MichelleMybelle61]

@Bob crude immature comment

[@LaserRanger15]

Nice job on this film. Top shelf

[@chairde]

I don’t know why people glorify gangsters.

[@henrysmith883]

Interesting Albert Donohue thought Reggie could have been a champion boxer. Mickey Duff the leading promoter thought they were both crap fighters. And he knew.

[@robertmiller5258]

They were depraved, cruel and despicable criminals - nothing more nothing less.

[@ryanvranch770]

Much less worse than the government that tell you what to do mate. Take your earnings and spend it on themselves tell me how they are different? Government commit extortion daily, lies, break there own laws, hide cheat kill I’d rather be dealing with guys like Ronnie and Richard sons than Government’s. Biggest and most powerful criminal syndicate on the planet

[@paulbanks2832]

Yeh but what about Will?

[@ubt3606]

To other gangsters. They were nice to civilians

[@tstuart7333]

You means cruel DISPICABLE ANIMALS. Im sure not everyone was afraid of these Pretty boys (not so) and Id be more sure others just allowed them to live. WHY! do the media, producers, directors and writers put these people on a pedestal and hand them statues. When they were nothing but thugs and brutal ones at that. Freddie Starr got hounded, slated, branded and brought down by the media, yet nothing proven. Make me sick.

[@napster2650]

@@tstuart7333 and they abuse little boys 🤮

[@christopheraliaga-kelly6254]

Don't forget "The Piranah Brothers, Doug and Dinsdale" by Monty Python.

[@PeterSellers-yw9us]

Spiny norman😂

[@alphooey]

Glad I’m not the only one. When they were younger my partner’s mates all called each other Dinsdale.

[@alphooey]

@@PeterSellers-yw9us😂😂

[@jeanlind7540]

People bought into their legend, especially as glamourised by the film. They were special because they were twin thugs which was more fascinating to outside world.

[@lee11991964]

It didn't do Britain any favours when celebrities like Barbara Windsor would hang out with the Krays and tell people "they are alright, everyone in the east-end loved them", this silly woman did more than most to glamorise these two thugs.

[@Bazonthebass]

Well presented docu.

[@stevesayer4045]

Frank Fraser did not even meet the Kray Twins until they went to prison. Ronnie Kray would of love to get Hold of Frank Fraser

[@irishninja2009]

He’s a total liar you can tell he’s a Bluffer

[@tx4yabass]

Is there anything left to be said about these goons!...Celebrity's my arse?!?!🤣

[@missmuffet3874]

Good film for anyone who knows little about the Krays and is wanting to learn about them but it didn't tell me anything different from what I already know.

[@michaelharrison3602]

What we all believe we know

[@quack437]

Did you know ronnie was a well know rapist of young men

[@michaelharrison3602]

@Brian Groogle most kids are doing that anyway

[@Ishbikes]

Well we didn’t know these ppl were planning on killing them

[@benjaminkoontz7798]

I’m a man named Benjamin Forest Koontz I am on the house at 1310 Cincinnati St., Lafayette, IN I get full permission for anybody who can just truly trying to help aid in the rescue of innocent and willing to help save because I’m blind from whoever whatever drugging and Harming me

[@willowJ-nb3iy]

Love the documentary. It's wayyyy better than the movie LEGEND.

[@paulanthony5274]

Legend is depressing,everything about it,,I hate it. The Krays was better

[@missmuffet3874]

@@paulanthony5274 I didn't like The Krays with the Kemp brothers but I loved Legend. Tom Hardy was fantastic.

[@shaunmaloney5415]

😮

[@i.p.956]

The idea from back in the day of women, children and ordinary men are not to be harmed is far better than what’s going on today. There’s always going to be crime and criminals, at least back in those days innocent people were left alone.

[@JimOverbeckgenius]

Such was my adventurous life I met Reggie Kray in Soho & spent a very nice evening with Frankie Frazer boozing in the King's Arms, Fulham Road, 1962 & 1969.

[@ChesneysCarer]

Of course you did. I bet they bought you groceries, and carried them home for you, too

[@walkedawayjoe]

This is my second documentary on the krays, definitely two sides, and this one tells the darker side

[@juliataylor2623]

Mad Teddy Smith was MI5 all along, he relocated to Australia where he lived out his days.

[@deeppurple883]

Sometimes the value of a life ain't much where greed and power is concerned . It's a fact of life this underbelly, in every country on this planet this happens . This kind of underbelly is at the bottom of the pecking order in business, a gray area for some, the reality, their there . At the top are royalty the rich the church land holders etc etc. Greed and power they take everything, because they can. They have the power behind them to take the most and they do. All the while us 95% get screwed. ✊

[@words911]

Politicians are more ruthless than any gangsters

[@marksummy3902]

Yeah you're right.. If it's not gangsters or criminals taking from you then it's the government.. Greed and power.. Status!

[@mbp7060]

If someone had asked me to look at these twins (I'm American) and tell me to guess what they did for a living, I'd say they were a tag team wrestling combination. Probably bad guys who were booed by the fans.

[@Clipsviral1000]

sorry what

[@mbp7060]

@@Clipsviral1000 They look like a wrestling tag team.

[@geoffpoole483]

@@mbp7060 Monty Python's Piranha Brothers sketch was based on the Krays.

[@mbp7060]

@@geoffpoole483 Thanks, I'll check that out. Hopefully it's on KZbin.

[@lesevans6567]

This is a very good documentary.

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

You don't want to get on the wrong side of the dangerous Kray twins, they didn't think twice if they wanted to kill or torture someone.

[@Richie_]

I remember Ronnies funeral procession going through Leyton, Bakers Arms. Was massive.

[@clouddog2393]

Sickening to see so many turning out to mourn two sadistic , psychopathic criminals as if they were heroes . Shows how stupid the public is .

[@Richie_]

@@clouddog2393 mostly curiosity brought so many people possibly. I was nipping out of work to go buy a drill bit and couldn't cross the road.

[@machiavellian7490]

@@Richie_ Oi Oi a drill bit! We’re u doing a bit of torture! Know what I mean jellied eels don’t mind if I do son

[@danielblackburn1241]

@@machiavellian7490 what ever

[@moonstar21868]

I like to be edgy and controversial so when I feel hard I drive my car at 35mph and give people waiting at the bus stop the finger

[@chrisk7082]

😂😂😂

[@gerwsgse]

Krays 1990 film was much better than Legend.

[@ColinDakin]

For gods sake stop talking about these head cases. They are dead and buried .

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

Atropos

[@adammitchell5683]

That Maureen Flanagan is still beautiful after all these years ...

[@Bicep1]

Maureen Flannigan sounds like she still thinks this was all glamorous.... Mmm🤔?? A bit more remorse wouldn't go a miss !! And stop tryina make violet sound normal!! She def wasn't a normal person never mind a normal mother !!

[@prochoicenotantivax119]

Why should she be remorseful she didn't do anything wrong and London in the swinging sixties of course it was glamorous

[@pghudd]

Show some respect she was a mother doing her best with what she had in a time you clearly don't understand

[@davidpowell9713]

Shame on you for this comment Petra , Violet was a beautiful kind person , it weren’t her fault how the twins behaved they were grown men.

[@tuddles71]

Great doc..foreman seems a solid guy

[@missmuffet3874]

I like Freddie Foreman too. There is no bullsh1t about him.

[@davidpowell9713]

Foreman had more brains than the rest of them put together

[@stedarkside1529]

Foreman was the hardest out of the lot of them

[@gordonsim4049]

I like Freddie but I'm not sure about Bernard

[@markbrown-sb2zm]

Not sure why these yobs were so glamorised and why almost everyone you meet claimed to have known them.Who would want to know a psychopath.If they came to Cape Town they wouldnt have lasted long.

[@irishninja2009]

Different story though. I’m Irish and know what you mean. But I’d be way way way worse if I lived in Cape Town too because

[@LewisMacdonaldMedia]

Great documentary, however the dubbing needs worked on more pre releasing.

[@maggie9508]

Von judge geezer is hilarious!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@joeypinkpants5203]

🤔 Who would have actually walked out of that cell though? The Richardson's or the Krays? Would love to hear people's opinions!!

[@ryanvranch770]

I’d say the krays. Richardsons were much more intelligent. But they hired people to do the damage. As with boxers etc more you fight better you get at it. So by what we know I’d say the krays

[@davidpowell9713]

Richardson’s were bigger men and very violent, Krays were probably better boxers especially Reggie. It’s a close one to call

[@robosborne5489]

The Richardsons would have flogged them . Eddie Richardson was and still is one hard bastard , the Krays stood no chance against him alone

[@davidpowell9713]

@@robosborne5489 it would’ve been much closer than you think, twins have got powers that normal people don’t have. Noone ever got the better of them

[@chiricahuaapache5132]

@@ryanvranch770 Eddie Richardson was a professional boxer years before. He was also a big burly man. The Krays were five foot seven.

[@hayley_joannaperkins5421]

Let's remember they did bad things however they were right about Jim fix it back in the late 70ss and 80s how it was how he was alood to have the run off the place

[@stefan2005stefan]

RIP Dave Courtney . who was Head of security for Ronnie's funeral and an associate of Charlie Kray .sadly died today . 22nd October 2023.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

San La Muerte

[@dshe8637]

I don't know why boxing is supposed to be useful in helping young men to keep away from crime, when most clubs are recruiting places for violent crime

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

Boxing en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing

[@oscar38]

Missed out the boothby compensation funny part. Boothby got £40k from the mirror, and an apology. Ronnie said thank you very much, we'll have that.😄

[@bobholmes65]

It’s so disturbing to think they were twins brothers and had an incestuous relationship with each other. They were evil and how anyone could look up to them is sick.

[@riley1774]

that’s just a rumor lol

[@lizzyloughton7501]

there's more frightened sick people around Bethnal now they were respected by the old EastEnders we weren't frightened to go out in the dark don't remember them mugging any old folk

[@annieorourke4822]

I have read a lot about the Krays .Never that they were incestuous

[@opticalman6417]

you can see that becuase your not mentally insane and thus not wired up wrong but to those out their that are their respect such a person becuase their batting in the same ball park such a person doesnt have no moral compass the archons are running the show with these people their not in the driving seat

[@903Skooba]

@@annieorourke4822 it’s an internet rumor that has no foundation at all, as far as I know.

[@sambrown2322]

If it weren't for The Kray twins existing, Eastenders would've never created and introduced Phil and Grant, AKA The Mitchell Brothers

[@slyestfox935]

Francis has got to be responsible for all her choices from being a gangsters girl/wife to taking her own life

[@barbarapearce9738]

Fame for being sadistic destructive evil monsters. Strange the people they appeal to.

[@teeteringonthebrink.305]

I never understood why Ronnie Kray was so upset at being called a fat poof by George Cornell. I mean, it's not like he was getting slandered. And of course, Ronnie sorted it out the only way he could - with a gun. Having already received a pasting from him, he knew he wouldn't be capable of teaching Cornell a lesson with his hands. Anyone who reveres the Kray twins are probably in need of psychotherapy themselves.

[@deevillarreal9475]

🤣👍

[@hotstepper887]

As if you'd have said this while they were active? Hilarious.

[@teeteringonthebrink.305]

@@hotstepper887 No, probably not. Certainly not within earshot anyway because they were both psychotic vicious bastards. But don't take my word on it, even their acquaintances are saying this. It's in the documentary. And your mocking response to me is clear proof that you know it too. As for my original statement...all true.

[@hotstepper887]

@@teeteringonthebrink.305 Naivety, and propaganda, does strange things to people like you. Nobody has disputed that. I just pointed out the reality is, at that time, you'd have said nothing. Something you just admitted making my comment more relevant, and now proven.. Hot Stepper 1 hour ago As if you'd have said this while they were active? Hilarious. You should learn to comprehend the English language.

[@hotstepper887]

@@teeteringonthebrink.305 At a guess, I'd have to believe you are, in fact, an American? That would explain the idiocy.

[@davidpowell9713]

So Jack the hat turned up with a shotgun wanting to kill the Krays on the day of Frances funeral? As if the Krays were gonna tolerate that. Jack deserved to go , but they made a real mess of the killing. Loads of witnesses and protracted death.

[@jamisonbernhardt3310]

Why was Francis given praise by the crazy brother in the movie legend? I see they added scenes to make the story more presentable. The crazy brother states that I always like you Francis.

[@paulanthony5274]

You mean Ron, where have you been?

[@Ishbikes]

Yea, they said she killed herself. Someone’s lying!

[@jeffreybamford1171]

old mate at the end he'd be the one to know what really happened to the Sussex three

[@robosborne5489]

Isnt part of being a criminal is about cunning, stealth, doing and seeing things on a need to know basis ?. Not shoving your 'boat race' in the social pages in the newspapers every 2 minutes ?

[@missmuffet3874]

Rob that is how they failed in their game. I think a) they weren't bright enough to realise it and b) they were narcissistic and couldn't help themselves to avoid being on show, in the limelight, etc.

[@robosborne5489]

@@missmuffet3874 sadly they are celebrated by a very small minority . The Kray twins ruined many lives including my late grandfather Alexander Thomson's. My grandad is mentioned in Fred Foreman's book. He was a retired Police sergeant who helped the legal team of Brendan Quirke in Foreman's appeal. Had the Krays taken the deal offered my grandfather wouldnt have become involved in his work for a solicitor called Brendan Quirke. This work resulted in him and another retired policeman being charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice. a charge that was later dismissed. Going through the court process had a profound effect on my late grandfather. My Grandad was a pillar of his community in his 30 years in the Metropolitan Police. to me my Grandad was a marvellous role model , a true hero , a man of honour . Even Fred Foreman has called my grandad a man of honour. My Grandad never forgave the Police in particular Frank Cater for what he did to him. I have nothing but utter contempt for these 2 uneducated idiotic clowns. All because these 2 wouldnt take a deal with the CPS

[@quack437]

Just look at daniel kinahan now its a flaw that some seem to have

[@12presspart]

yes the best criminals never get caught period

[@michaelharrison3602]

There was never real rivalry between the zkrays and Richardsons they were involved in completely different things The zRichardsons had business in America and South Africa as well as supplying frut machines and had pubs clubs, betting shops and cab firms in South London they were more concerned with making money than being gangsters where as being gangsters was more important than making money for the Krays. Although they had contacts in other areas just like every face in the country. They were never that powerful outside zBethnal Green and Whitechapel the vast majority of zBritish public had never heard of the Krays before they went on trial for murder

[@Rodmic-hd9pn]

Why were they given such an ornate funeral how sad for anyone under British rule

[@requiscatinpace7392]

They kept the violence within the criminal world. Now people can’t leave their homes after dark. Back then if someone robbed a granny, they had to answer to them. Probably never robbed a granny again.

[@margothatcher8178]

No they kept the streets clean they were hero's also. Now look at America every street corner there are criminals killing for a woman's handbag with a few dollars in it. You guys all know nothing they were okay guys that's why they were left alone. Now the FBI and others do the Criminal acts in government with people like the Clintons and Pelosi they are the new Mafia, President Trump is too clean for then, so between them they make shit up like Russia Russia Russia, and so called Russian Prostitutes being pissed on, for a germ freak that would not happen, the Capitol another set up, shooting a Military woman not even armed this was to try and prove the Military have Trump supporters. These were people set up by a gangster government. Pelosi's father was involved with gangsters. Not just having pictures at functions with them which happens, strangely enough gangsters do lots of Charity work, not like Biden importing Children run by traffickers, leaving many to die in the desert including women, and spreading COVID they are the criminals. And these guys cannot see this, Obama is the same. president Trump is too clean for them. This is why Epstein was killed he knew too much. Trump was never involved with such crap, I have met Trump many of my friends know him well, it is like they are talking about a different person. He packed the speaking tour out when he came to Australia, we love him here, there are always dim whited people who don't, only the weak listen to Pelosi and her henchmen they are getting rich on peoples stupidity. Biden did not win that was a stitch up.

[@margothatcher8178]

Wonderful had I been home in England I would have gone also they kept the bent evil people honest.

[@neilinnes6973]

I wonder what Ron Kray thought about Jimmy Saville !

[@i.marr.6688]

I'd say Ronnie knew for sure what Savile was doing,

[@reddyreddy2618]

Krays stayed at haute de la guraune in jersey, the childrens home at the heart of child abuse peadophile rings where childrens remains were found, as did saville. Ron was also once arrested while in bed with a 14 year old boy.

[@KarinaDebbage]

My dad used to be incharge of the kitchen's etc at Blunderson prison for 36 years, I can't remember which one it was Reggie or Ronnie kray who was in the prison at that time, I'd always loved reading about criminal gangs and murders, I had a really heavy book on crime, it had the Kray story in the book...so I asked my dad if he would take the book in to work and get Ronnie or Reggie to sign my crime book.. I was gutted because he said NO....he said he's just a cleaner... his past has been over for a long time, my dad never spoke about him or anyone of the inmates...my dad has still got a painting done by I think it was the last person in England to be done for piracy...it is painted in purple and he used match sticks as paint brushes... it is just land Scape, I don't know if it was a personal place like home or just from his own home or what.... unfortunately Blunderson prison got knocked down a few years ago.... happy days living in quarters, or the estate was called the patch... going in the club house and getting a packet of crisps and a cresta drink of the ungodly amount for just 10p... money went a lot further then, unlike today.... good fun memories 😁😁😁💯🍒

[@saltypatriot4181]

Reminds me of Ghislane Maxwell in Oxford hanging with Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein

[@scottsimmons7897]

Unfortunately its difficult to understand half of what is said in the stories because of the accent.

[@Briannafrancis-e9g]

Their surname suits them Kray kray ” lol

[@Kwembo]

Thats where the word comes from

[@michaelharrison3602]

Mad Teddy Smith died in Australia

[@benjaminkoontz7798]

If I see women or children being harmed that will make me go crazy because they’re innocent

[@robertlivingstone3364]

Fatherlessness creates monsters.

[@stevejessemey8428]

How about doing a video of the Maltese gangsters in London 😊

[@Wonmanbanned]

They seemed like a pair of prats in my opinion. Bullies, nothing more.

[@michaelharrison3602]

Freddie Forema's pub was just off the Borough High Street about two miles from st Mary's Church In Rotherhithe not quite round the corner but in the same Borough (Southwark)so Foreman would've bin the frame

[@MK-rk4no]

If these 2 muppets lived in todays Times, they wouldn't last a day.

[@MK-rk4no]

@Machi Bethell yep wouldnt last. People kill today like its nothing, back then there was a bit more morality. These guys would have been taken out without a doubt.

[@prochoicenotantivax119]

Chavs on mopeds I'm sure they would have been scared 😂🤣😁

[@davidpowell9713]

Tough is tough, whatever era it’s born in

[@ssd3622]

​@machibethell7687they wouldn't of had today's connections with foreign international gangs with more power and influence

[@ssd3622]

That's true they wouldn't of been able to take on different foreign international gangs with more power and connections in today's london

[@debbiemccarthy3864]

I read Maureen Flanagan's book ..it was really informative ..very honest

[@doug132639]

CLIFF RICHARD WAS SAD HIS BOYFRIEND DEAD 🤣🤣

[@DaveRichardson-v6f]

good video

[@yotaiji012]

Cray Cray!

[@voiceofreason1208]

Soooo ..... THAT'S where that saying comes from.