The Kronos Cyberattack Is Really Bad...

[@SomeOrdinaryGamers]

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[@amason115]

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[@neozena]

Yo

[@toast1655]

You got it

[@laxnc_mufc]

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[@cursorguy]

I made a wombo of you dancing to numa numa.

[@rhenliz1]

My employer was victim of this attack on Kronos. The first payday after the attack, I literally didn't get a paycheck that week. It was so stressful. We now have to manually log our hours. I wasn't the only one that didnt get paid correctly either. It also screwed up our scheduling method too. Nobody knows how long this is gonna last. I'm so scared that I'm gonna miss another paycheck again. I literally live paycheck to paycheck and I don't make enough to have a substantial savings, just enough to get by.

[@GregHeffleyGaming]

I feel so sorry for you bro I hope they fix this asap this is bad

[@XBareXBearX]

Hope it goes well for you budd. I too live paycheck to paycheck and i know how it feels if i miss one.

[@rhenliz1]

@@GregHeffleyGaming I hope so too 🥺

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

It's illegal for them to not pay you if they did not keep track of your hours then you tell them how many hours you worked and it's on them to prove otherwise. It was on you to make them pay though and it would likely take as long as it did for them to get a paycheck to you anyway because they would already be working to avoid a situation like that. If I had a darker world view I'd bet that some of the highest paid people not on salary still got paid.

[@kallmannkallmann]

First u say u didn't get paid then that u didn't get the right amount, witch is it?

[@jtnachos16]

This kind of crap is why I don't think everything should be done digitally, let alone on foreign servers. What you pay for in 'convenience', you get at the risk of the rug being pulled out from under you by an unrelated third party.

[@kriskropd]

"If you leave everything to automation, then even the mice will outsmart you."

[@jdmaine51084]

@@kriskropd Brilliant quote -- can I ask who said this?

[@joule400]

Even just having physical copies of relevant info seems like minimum in this kinda case. Day over? Print all that out and put it in a folder, once irrelevant throw it out to not hoard a mountain of paper. If its not a server you can physically access assume it will go down at some point without warning

[@EliteEaterCRV]

@@joule400 exactly. Now with the mouse thing.. I'm imaging some kind of Rube Goldberg machine with wooden paddle wheels, where a mouse gets f-en stuck and crushed in it.

[@kriskropd]

@@jdmaine51084 It's from an episode in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. Motoko Kusanagi says it somewhere during the second season, I think. I just remember the quote because it was burned into my memory as a kid.

[@Iceechibi]

My grandpa was in the hospital at the end of the year and one of the head nurses that came in to check his medicine was talking about this while we were chatting with her. Essentially, they're down to using old punch cards to clocking in/clocking out as the hospital was built during the time of people using punch cards and the machines were still there - they just needed to be repurposed. So now everyone clocks in just like they did 30 years ago.

[@royaltyfree9607]

That’s actually really smart. Good on that hospital. Hope your grandpa is ok.

[@Sarah-gm9tq]

Well, be glad that the hospital wasn’t hacked, cause that ish is happening now too

[@CJDcow]

Hospitals and medicine in general are way behind any other field on the face of this planet. Thanks.

[@foulthy]

i work at a hotel and that's how we clock in regularly, i don't blame them cause we have service problems so often and im sure it's much cheaper

[@MrSlendyMannn]

Hope you grandfather will be okay.

[@thezombiecreeper]

What’s also kind of weird namewise, Kronos is also the name of a banking trojan. A trojan worked on by the guy who stopped WannaCry almost five years ago.

[@atespeach5672]

Wow, people sure do like a complicated greek? word for time lol

[@thephilosopher7173]

@@atespeach5672 Well it makes sense because they're managing time, so Kronos would be an appropriate name. However if there was a trojan of the same name than its just ironic at that point.

[@networksims4357]

@@thephilosopher7173 plus kronos ate his children and was generally a dick, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was confused why they named a company that lol

[@HuggableLoveablePlushies]

@@networksims4357 Who wasn’t a dick in Greek mythology?

[@I_quit_trolling_now]

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[@sltyboi]

Bro we use Kronos for work it’s been down for so long man I knew they had to have been hacked but glad you made this informative video

[@mustypickle]

I work for a grocery store and we use a UKG app but we never saw anything about it. No paper no issues other than the app just being utter shit since we started using it.

[@snazz2133]

@Guy Who Killed U i prefer this system you can be more lenient with your breaks and don’t have to clock back in right on the dot, at least this is how it is at my job

[@War_Conductor]

Same, been forever since it has worked

[@siricecoldmars3046]

@@snazz2133 finally someone who gets it. sure my paycheck is wanting but isn't that a small price to pay for coming in 20 minutes late and no one being any the wiser?

[@sublimationtv7090]

@Guy Who Killed U SAMMME AND THEY USE IT AS AN EXCUSE TO PAY ME LESS

[@Sreven199]

My work's been affected by this too. We've been down for almost a month. Couple weeks of manually writing punches down on pen and paper, and at this point my company is working at building their own payroll system. This is really getting tiring

[@TheLazyEconomist]

TBH, a lot of companies should have their own infrastructure, especially with things like payroll. Technology has made it so inexpensive I can't see why managers wouldn't opt for it.

[@Mightylcanis]

@@TheLazyEconomist Because they're lazy or they misunderstand the situation. Or both, often both.

[@callum7764]

I have quite literally never been as directly affected by a story Muta has covered than this. My work uses this and it blows. Never know when I'm meant to be working. Still getting my pay though, so doing better than some others in the comments

[@JI0MB]

Oh same here dude, I didn't figure out this was going down until last week because the company I work for doesn't tell us shit.

[@MrSlendyMannn]

@@JI0MB Damn, that’s shitty on their part. Hope the situation gets better for you bro

[@Kaylaallison23]

Same! Getting paid but it's still spooky

[@DatDudeGeorge]

Yes, this hit my employer as well we are still getting paid. We are using a spreadsheet log system to get paid in time but PTO accrual isn't stated so idk how much PTO I have or vacation due to this outage

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

The people not getting paid need to start a class action lawsuit or something.

[@trollbait1480]

An operation this size you are looking at hundreds of terabytes of data spread across hundreds of terminals. With customers signing up, falling out, changing locations, updating both local and cloud by the day, by the hour and by the minute it is more or less impossible to keep accurate restore points, even for localized data like time cards. When anything affects a setup like this network wide it is big trouble. They really are at the mercy of attackers when it becomes a ransomware scenario. There is no simple resolution.

[@ShwappaJ]

I love your profile name bruh 😆

[@I_quit_trolling_now]

🤣

[@jsan2548]

My company dodged a bullet with this one. We were going to switch over to Kronos until their engineers dropped the ball on testing. The phrase of the month was “I swear I’ve never seen this happen before. I don’t know why it’s not working.” A couple of violated SLAs later and we scrapped the whole project.

[@L337LYC4N]

We've been getting a lot of that phrase with a 3rd party our application team is working with and it's getting to a point where we're about to just develop something in-house and drop them. At least that way the onus will be on us to fix issues and not rely on a company that takes months to get back in critical issues that prevent our machinery from working properly.

[@morganhazel2373]

@@L337LYC4N can't you basically copy paste as long as you aren't distributing the code or is that still illegal?

[@Gulyus]

@@morganhazel2373 Uh...no? Stealing code is still illegal; it just isn't copyright infringement. It is instead theft of corporate secrets which can be just as bad as its not just a fine (to make the other party whole) but also jail time.

[@kjl3080]

Ah the United warcry of IT guys “this is the first time this happened wtf”

[@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead]

@@Gulyus ASRS, and clientele diagnostics, track records and information using different groups for work sheets run their own macros if they have to, it would be theft of corporate secret to steal the logs THEY keep for how they changed the program because it handles important company data.

[@WaylonYT]

Thank you so much for spreading the word on this; my employer said our system was down and refused to elaborate while my scheduling and payroll has been dodgy at best. I was left in the dark trying to figure out what was going on and now I know. You give me laughs and great entertainment but I think you just saved me from losing my banking information. -Much love, Waylon

[@Laancer98]

As someone who works for a company that uses kronos, I can say without a doubt. This is the most bunk ass shit ive ever dealt with. We dont even get punch cards, we write our shifts down on a piece of paper. God forbid someone lose it we are fucked. When it first happened, they just copied the last check we received correctly, and gave that to us 3 weeks in a row. If we were overpaid, they will collect their dues once the system is back up. If we were underpaid, get fucked because they aint gonna do the math to figure out what they owe.

[@gobalbucs]

That would be illegal of them to do. It’s their responsibility to pay you every single penny that you earned no matter what. If you can prove they are underpaying you, report it. Doing the math to figure out how much employers owe their employees in wages is payroll’s _job._

[@ZachPlum]

@@gobalbucs implying legality actually matters when it comes to companies paying their employees

[@alexjoseph330]

Luckily when Kronos went down little over a month ago, my company acted fast and had us use an Excel time calculator spreadsheet. I don't think anyone missed any paychecks

[@nexttimeon5684]

We’ve just been using paper

[@SeriousBusinessman.]

@@nexttimeon5684 By far the easiest solution.

[@zachj19991]

@@nexttimeon5684 us too, realizing how much Kronos helps with things like payroll lmao

[@firewulfz]

I work for a big retail chain that uses Kronos and we had paper timesheets and all my paychecks have been accurate. But obviously that invites error so hopefully they get it fixed soon.

[@I_quit_trolling_now]

🤣

[@Coalch13]

My company uses Kronos too, they’ve been factoring in an average of our pay from the last few months but we get commission as well so we’re losing money. This is frustrating.

[@I_quit_trolling_now]

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[@Vanished584]

@ඞ believe it of not u think this kinda action would illicit some kind of negative repercussion, but it doesn't. Who is checking to make sure the system works right? That's right, no one.

[@adriangorgonio2072]

I remembered using Kronos for our work timekeeping in my past job and this came as a shock. We moved to Kronos from using fingerprint based timekeeping as a way to move forward. It was an added hassle on our part just because logging in to Kronos takes so much time and its just so much of a hassle when you're running late and you're fumbling with your credentials just to log in.

[@matthewwilson6219]

I think we were colleagues at one point.

[@EwolAndWolf]

What's even worse is that I've been hearing some places will refuse to even give holiday pay because there is no documentation of hours worked. So for all the people that spent the holidays working their asses off away from family wont even be properly compensated for it. If your place of employment doesn't care about compensating workers when something like this happens then I'd say quit. It's a scheduling/documenting system that's down, not the government holding your pay and it's on the place of work to find a solution.

[@PSIGOD]

There's gotta be a lawsuit there

[@Mocha-Latte]

I already quit

[@Zyphera]

Talk about hostile employer. What a joke.

[@Flip_91FTW]

Our pay is next week. I've already told my manager that if there's any problems with it, I'll quit. Its not his fault and no hard feelings personally but like; we've got bills to pay. I can't be sitting on a butchered pay check for a whole month.

[@SessmaruKusanagiGaming]

That HAS to be a lawsuit waiting to happen??

[@averyjane03]

Yeah I didn’t get paid for almost 3 weeks. One coworker quit, another put her two weeks in and another broke down behind the register because she was facing eviction. It was detrimental to not only experience it but to witness how it affected those I’ve come to care about.

[@xxpatrick204xx]

Lol

[@falco5148]

hitting a nation's wallets can surely create a lot of chaos and division

[@darthnarak]

I had never heard of this system before in my life. However, the fact that they named this after the king of the Titans who was eventually ripped from power after his son, Zeus, decided that he was too powerful, and the fact that they had not the hindsight of preparing for such a commonplace ransomware, makes me think of the Greek lore just transformed itself digitally. It is always better to submit an Excel sheet at the end of the week unlike these BS software.

[@knightwolf3511]

there are basically 2 systems companies use in the u.s. this is one of them, the reason people changed was because people where putting fake hours in basically some people at large companies where giving themselves extra hours of not even being there. so it's why companies when this route

[@AsphodelGames]

I work at GameStop and Kronos getting attacked really messed us up for a while. It didn't last too long for us thankfully, but it hurts to see others got hurt bad by it.

[@BruhMoment-1267]

My mom used Kronos and for a few weeks we had to try and manage our money a lot more because she couldn’t log her hours. It was difficult especially because she works at home, and her bosses didn’t want to believe her. It became a big hassle.

[@fakiirification]

if my boss cant log my hours properly and depends on me to do it, then questions everything like im trying to steal time, then i think i would be looking for a new boss.

[@BruhMoment-1267]

@@fakiirification yeah I always thought the same thing. The work never treats my mom good, despite her working there for over 20 years. But it does let her stay home. Sometimes I wish she’d get a different job but then it wouldn’t be the same.

[@Zyphera]

What a hostile employer.

[@SessmaruKusanagiGaming]

See this is what I'm worried about. Bosses CHOOSING not to believe a worker to save money .....

[@SessmaruKusanagiGaming]

@@BruhMoment-1267 I'm so sorry your mom has to put up with that shit. She deserves to be treated with respect too.

[@AUKronos]

Oops my bad guys

[@CrimmzZT]

dummy kronos getting hacked smh my head

[@soccerclips101]

Why don't post anymore

[@ccateni28]

Your the good Kronos, not KMG...

[@TimPortantno]

Remember in the old days when you had to pay a person to run your own servers in the closet? And now 50% of the market might use one single website, and once it gets hacked, there is a noticable effect in the economy... Decentralization is the cheapest security/insurance. I hope companies invest again.

[@RobotronSage]

Hahahahhahahaah yeah i remember

[@Vociferous]

Wow. This is a complete vulnerability in the world of computer security, people should be safe.

[@sagetheassassin3192]

Cyber Military actually needs funding

[@sagetheassassin3192]

@Sound City (PRAY FOR ME) Bad Bot ( ͠° ͟ʖ °͠ )

[@Chilling_Chilling]

@Sound City (PRAY FOR ME) nah that's your mom

[@parkeralan19]

@@sagetheassassin3192 I like your angry face it looks very disappointed🤠🤠

[@Zyphera]

There is no should be. You gotta work for everything.

[@xjunkxyrdxdog89]

"Your data is more valuable than you" How do I cut out the middle man and just sell my own data?

[@Swankster9000]

It’s affecting my work. Haven’t gotten paid my actual paycheck for a bit. It really sucked especially before the Holidays

[@Scarecrowwx]

This is why i think moving toward everything electronic is good and bad, i don't want to make it seem like everything electronic is bad but this hurts a lot of ppl when their pay can get hacked like this

[@derangedape1]

Man it sucks I have like at least five pending paychecks and my employer refuses to give a physical check so I'm just waiting. As a form of revenge I've been just adding minutes and minutes to each shift lol. Thanks for spreading the word Muta Update: honestly I could care less since I know I'm going to get it eventually and I'm not going to die without it due to my savings. I would probably be dumping the money into etherium right now but it's more of a headache to deal with it. And I'm trying to get a promotion and I know this shouldn't affect it but you know tiny things and perception add up so Im will wait. Thx for advice and caring I guess.

[@Iceechibi]

If you're in the US, you can report them to the labor department of your state. That's theft. Regardless of what an employer uses to calculate payroll, if a system goes down, that's not on you to bear it. They should have back-up.

[@munchlaxin]

Yeah, they are required to pay you regardless of something like this. Report that shit man 5 paychecks is one too many

[@mechamobu777]

@@munchlaxin 1 paycheck is 1 too many

[@lolygagger5991]

dude contact your labor authority in your state or province they are effectively stealing from you at that point.

[@jdmaine51084]

lol thats 100% illegal.

[@jordanwhite8567]

Bro I work at a major hospital in a major city and use Kronos every day and didn’t even know this shit happened! Holy fuck. Gotta go to my boss tomorrow and make sure everything’s good. Thanks man. Wild seeing one of your vids have such a direct possible influence and relevance on my life.

[@kracomimusic]

And you saved your patiences lives

[@raztox3050]

How’d it turn out with your boss?

[@wlfgrl9950]

i work for a company who uses kronos a very major car factory and I've not been paid on time, and had to wait a week for my pay to come back. Luckily I'm not in a situation where not getting paid on time would affect me, but that worries me for people who live paycheck to paycheck

[@TheMrBadua]

My wife has been affected by this and tbh it sucks. Wife who is a nurse who had just got a raise and will work OT. In her case , they can only pull payroll information from payroll before the attack. So she is still getting paid , but it's not accounting for her raise and any additional or ot hours. Tis a blessing and a curse. At least she is still getting paid and truly feel for anyone who has not been paid since the attack.

[@TRZN91]

Every (corporate) job I've ever worked has used Kronos, including my current, who literally just switched over to UKG from an in house program a little over a year ago. Crazy.

[@SEVENTEENPOINT1]

We use UKG as well, so much better!

[@TRZN91]

@Tobekang I work for one of the largest companies in the US. It is 100% affecting large corporations, and some local governments. If your company isn't affected you probably utilize one of the 2 Kronos systems that were not targeted. My company is like a couple hundred K employees having to submit manual timesheetd impacted.

[@DeeMulaah]

@Tobekang It's definitely hitting the big boys too, I work at a factory worth a billion dollars and the supervisors/HR have to double check and fix errors with employess hours We have to write down our punch times every day just so they have proof when something gets screwed up

[@CuIturaI]

I’m glad you talked about this, I’m a tech supervisor at staples and have had the great luck of having my pay all kinds of messed up, appreciate you taking the time to talk about this,

[@DOOMStudios]

I 100% bet they didn’t screw up with the deducting the taxes from the pay.

[@johnserosanguineous1886]

Uncle Sam gets his money always! You? "we're working on a solution!"

[@BreMue]

To be fair, taxes would be calculated separately from time punches. No time punches= no pay=nothing to tax

[@RoofKoreanEnergy]

Our fire department, my employer, has been suffering from this for weeks...it's real bad. People are not getting paid... putting our lives on the line and not getting paid during the holidays is great

[@CrispyMuffin2]

I hope incidents like this can convince companies to not do EVERYTHING digitally. Basing your entire system on such a fragile infastructure is borderline idiotic

[@OfficialDJSoru]

Or at least they STOP FUCKING OUTSOURCING EVERYTHING

[@Hoosierdaddyjones812]

Makes you sonder how we did it before computers

[@knightwolf3511]

@@Hoosierdaddyjones812 punch out clocks, our factory still has one

[@Hoosierdaddyjones812]

@@knightwolf3511 sarcasm is hard to read in chats lol

[@OldQueer]

Call me a dinosaur, but I'm really not keen on everything pushing towards the cloud. I hardly ever had issues with on prem solutions and I could tinker away without having to worry about incurring costs. I'm seeing a load of poorly implemented cloud solutions that aren't as good as solid on prem solutions. Execs are putting blockers left and right to stop cloud spending going over budget at the cost of progress imo. I honestly think businesses have jumped on marketing hype without much idea of the real benefits of cloud computing. I've seen it done poorly far more often than I have well.

[@Mamiya645]

That's not being a dinosaur, that's being smart. For my last gig a server in city several hours from mine was cranky, the only people able to do work at the office for that day were those of us who dropped daily backups on private laptops and also brought them with us. About a week of work hours are lost each year to that. Cheap amateur startup? Nah, local government............

[@FranNyan]

@@Mamiya645 Local government normally has a shoestring budget and insane limitations on what services can be used. Cheap amateur start ups normally will have better IT and infrastructure than anything publicly funded.

[@Mamiya645]

​@@FranNyan The startups get to use modern thinking, instead of seemingly running IT via 1970's standards, when you needed an expert called over for every little thing. They don't need to wait four months before a higher up returns with mission-critical information required to finish a project. So yeah in hindsight I wish I had been with a choice at the time. No wonder they don't get anything done >:D

[@nathandingy]

We use Kronos but our company locally hosts our own version of Kronos so thankfully we havent been affected by this.

[@RedX7771]

I’m a bakery worker and also a barista with Whole Foods and we use Kronos. The fact that I already sign myself out to close certain departments when I clock out from work since I’m a closer. The fact that we have to write our time stamps when we go in and in-n-out for lunch and then do it on paper and then also do it on another site to record our hours is a pain in the ass. But that’s our situation. We went back to writing our hours in pen and paper and also in the computer to make sure we get paid for the hours.

[@PinkShades]

My workplace was affected by this. I used Kronos for a whole two weeks at my new job before it came down! Thanks for covering it!

[@LargeKoffi]

I tried logging on to my company's Kronos site to clock in but it wasn't loading, which wasn't too surprising considering it would be down once in a while. Then we got the first e-mail about the cyberattack, and we all kind of laughed at how insane it was that something like that was happening. Then we got like 3 more e-mails within the hour and that's when we knew it was serious. Lucky for us my company's CIS department built a clock in site on the fly which took about a week. It's not amazing, but it gets the job done.

[@omar.naksho]

So this is why I haven't been able to clock in at work, and have to sign a paper everyday like im in the stone age

[@SolidShepard]

company i work from home for uses kronos. and i ended up missing like 2 days of works worth of pay. as someone living paycheck to paycheck an perpetually behind on rent, i couldn't really afford that. i was pissed. idk why anyone would do this. you are only hurting everyday people.

[@darksu6947]

Your company still has to pay you. Talk to whoever is in charge of that and make sure you get your money. Don't let them screw you over just because they got hit with a ransomware attack.

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

Sue them for wage theft

[@SessmaruKusanagiGaming]

Surely that's a lawsuit. They can't just NOT pay you. Fight it!

[@SolidShepard]

@@darksu6947 i did. but i wont see that until my paycheck until friday. it's been what? like a month since this happened? when you get paid every other week, missing money on a pay check hurts even if you do end up getting it eventually. thats a month without money you earned.

[@darksu6947]

@@SolidShepard It sucks that you're having to wait on your money. I hope everything works out for you. It seems like a lot of people in the comments didn't know what to do about not getting paid, and I like your picture, so I thought I'd try to help you out, lol. Sorry if I sounded like a dickhead.

[@FailBucketFilms]

I wrote an article about this for my work recently. This is a huge issue and companies need to be educated on what responsibilities they have of securing their own cloud security. CSPs are not entirely responsible for securing the cloud. Hopefully the work we are doing can help secure more businesses.

[@HauntingSpectre]

My work was only going to pay "Base hours" ie 40 hours. Despite us being on mandatory overtime + supplementary overtime. I was going to be shorted 52 hours on a paycheque as a result. I very quickly informed them Id be speaking to a lawyer and the labor board if I wasn't paid. Like another 800 or so angry employees did. They 'decided' to pay us all the full amount on time. Fancy that.

[@gobalbucs]

Yeah. Fancy that.

[@ImKloan]

Hey muda, mckesson (my workplace) is being affected by this... they are paying employees for 80 hrs and will figure out PTO and what hours they work and will deduct it from future pays but as of now it's being logged manually using excel spreadsheets... It's being held up for some ridiculous amount like 100M or 1B dollars usd. From what I was told Thanks for covering this!

[@No_vec]

My employer has been really stupidly affected by this too. Literally the week before Kronos shut down we switched over to it from our old solution. Needless to say everyone was really pissed when the shutdown happened and now we're using some IT department duck tape and pray solution until this all gets fixed

[@daveyhogan]

We should receive a monthly salary for our data they make billions off of. Not to mention the AI being developed from it.

[@wilthehomie3218]

Well we kind of sell are rights to receive a monthly salary from TOS. If that cockblock wasn't a thing I'd probably agree.

[@THEzTROLLlz]

@@wilthehomie3218 Unreasonable TOS should be retroactively trimmed in accordance with new federal legislation. Not like anything that would help would pass, though. I'm sick of having to interface with a bunch of private companies whose services are used by employers, academic and medical institutions, etc.

[@mathusalen1]

In Germany there was a company trying to do that, you agree to let them sell your data in exchange for a percentage. They were testing via invites some time ago but haven't seen any news since so I guess it didn't took off

[@dapito7771]

I think people should be able to opt in if they want and get paid , but if you don't to share your data you shouldn't have to.

[@RobotronSage]

Exactly. It should be illegal to sell other peoples data tbh.

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[@Potatomaster1005]

I'm glad you covered this. My mother is a nurse and this is massively affecting the family

[@Omelander]

Same but my mom works for xfinity but thankfully it’s not affecting us to badly

[@mordiez-]

@@Omelander I think soup boi is a bot, people keep reposting exactly what he said.

[@Kremlin-Dusk]

A lot of people are stealing your comment lol

[@snickle1980]

@@Kremlin-Dusk I was going to copy and paste the line as well, but it's not as fun once someone mentions it. 😁

[@lordz19]

Shut up bot

[@dcrz]

I work in cyber security and honestly this type of stuff keeps me employed. But when this happens in your own company, it’s basically D-day at the office hahaha

[@ramonmartinez7775]

I'm going through it rn. My company set up a site for us to put our times for the day and they will manually input it. Last paycheck it worked well. This one we will see. Hopefully everyone gets their money

[@firewulfz]

I work for a big retail chain and they’re having us use pen and paper Luckily The management at my store is being very careful when sending out the information to payroll. But I’ve heard horror stories at other stores or management has their head up their ass and not getting things in on time or making stupid mistakes which delays the paychecks.

[@smartguyjaja]

my mom is actually affected by this and ive been paying a lot of her bills since the attack

[@nighttwister0629]

sfyl.

[@john_toss]

Rip to the people who’s work uses Kronos

[@callum7764]

Aye its me

[@boofdoof6157]

F

[@superbeanx2]

It is I

[@IAMPOPP]

My wife has been affected by this. No overtime pay until they get this sorted out. Thanks for breaking it down.

[@swordsman0075]

Well damn, when I looked at the time frame that Muta put up, it lines up to when my job switched to the local method of making schedules and payroll rather than using the server we used on the internet browser. I thought, seeing how corporate usually are a bunch of idiots, wanted to fix something that isnt broke, wanted to do this instead to just cut costs, as they would. We were never told that Kronos was actually hacked! Its crappy to know that the software that handles my paychecks has been compromised from the mouth of another person (all respect to Muta) rather than from corporate themselves. Then again, I work for a shady business practice of a company anyway.

[@DarknessHero1996]

We finally got Kronos back last night. Thankfully all my clock ins and outs were saved throughout the attack.

[@RrizIIDX]

For someone who's job relies on Kronos for their schedule, shit is HOT ASS

[@snickle1980]

Go see a doctor about that. 😫

[@suecide8906]

@@xr.spedtech get help brother

[@xr.spedtech]

@@suecide8906 sorry I'll delete that ...

[@TimZoet]

Yes! A new video on cyberattacks. Dude I love your content the most when it's on privacy and cyber crime. The way you tell these things is just something else

[@kainthewarlock]

Feels weird to hear about an attack that my work has been affected by and had to deal with in person.

[@chuckbengis8783]

Thanks for covering this, retail worker whose company is affected by the Kronos attack. We were doing pen and paper while they figured out what else to do and before I took some time off, now that I'm back we're using some other system we log into on the computer. I'll have to ask/figure out what we're using instead. Thankful my job acted quickly, awful to hear that Kronos is used by so many and especially hospitals, had no idea.

[@ssjduck]

I was a former GameStop employee, and my boss informed me that Kronos had a ransomware attack at the time. It did affect me for my paycheck and I was short on money during Christmas. Good thing I don’t work there after New Years.

[@zZTharosXx]

My favorite videos Muta does are the Linux/hacking/ network security videos. He actually makes them entertaining as well as informative.

[@Zyphera]

This event have showed how hostile many employers are. They refuse to pay. What a joke.

[@misumat6222]

Capitalism 😔

[@RobotronSage]

@@misumat6222 ^ Whole system is a profit from loss model. The entire ecosystem is hostile. Everyone is looking to profit from your losses.

[@andread.8095]

Retail worker & victim here 🙋🏾‍♀️ my paychecks have been messed up for weeks. I'm extra stressed over this and have been doing more side hustles & commissions via PayPal and cash only JUST to help make ends meet.

[@n0body704]

Dang sounds really tough...

[@bigfredbigfred2760]

Lol one thing I don’t understand is what’s the purpose of HR if the company is going to OUTSOURCE timekeeping. Especially billion dollar companies/corporations it’s just as bad as outsourcing customer service…. All to save a couple of bucks at the risk of workplace dissent.

[@khaoskitchen8694]

My life has been seriously effected by this to the brick of homelessness. This has been horrible. WE HAVE NOT BEEN PAID IN 1.5 MONTHS.

[@evillecaston]

Imagine if they find out that it was all caused by one employee trying to download Minecraft for free on company systems...

[@lainiwakura1776]

Who ever did it, I hope they get beaten up for their stupidity. And fired, of course.

[@figtree_video_archive]

Employee probably: WOW I FINALLY FOUND IT! *Free Minecraft no virus Punjabi download HD 2022*

[@sidrees3179]

Muta, would love to see you produce a complete guide to cyber safety. I've picked up a thing or two from watching your vids but would absolutely love a comprehensive reference. Love ya content and best luck with the year, hope it works out epic!

[@onenerdygremlin]

Like a few comments I've seen on here, my employer uses Kronos. We've gone back to an outdated version of Kronos. It's insane, honestly. I'm a college student trying to make ends meet, and it's been hella rough

[@user-lt2rw5nr9s]

Imagine Neuralink ransomware that literally holds your memories hostage.

[@fluffycuteish]

Well that’s a horrifying thought, lol

[@tsumikiayato1560]

Broke: *got memories held hostage for money* Woke: *literally forgets everything after a nap*

[@AnAverageNerd]

that is quiet... wait what was i saying again

[@totalermist]

Good thing then that Neuralink is on the FM-side of AM/FM for the forseeable future. (AM as in Actual Machines and FM as in F'ing Magic)

[@utopiandystopia1383]

i can't wait until my organs are cloud connected and have DRM enabled

[@QuestionYourWorld]

I work in a giant warehouse and part of my work day is collecting punch adjustments from employees. We got lucky that a lady in corporate was saving the Kronos data everyday up to the day it went down.

[@V3n0m0usVix3n]

U would think that all companies would be doing this as a safety measure. Payroll and schedule are the most important things for a business with employees. It shocks me some businesses are just not paying employees or are guessing at pay instead of taking responsibility for their business and doing it right. Idk what we use at work but I haven't been affected by the hack. We print our schedules out every week and for the most part if we switch days with others, it gets changed on schedule. It's common sense to me. Guess it's not that common. Glad to hear it not being affected by this very much. I feel sad for other people who aren't getting paid or are getting screwed on overtime, holiday pay. Everyone's w2 are going to be way off.

[@Flip_91FTW]

Thank you for covering this. Currently trying to save money as I know my pay probably won't be right when we are paid next week.

[@parchesi]

Hey, Muta! It would be nice if you did a tutorial on how to create a server that backups your data just like yours. It sounds cool and very efficient. Would like to try that myself

[@o7juan]

Yo we use Kronos for work it's been down for so long man been having to manually write down my in and out time. Glad it didn't affect payroll since they can check how long you've spent each day. knew they had to have been hacked by ransomware but glad you made this video

[@bigsadduck]

I think it would be pretty cool to do a quick and dirty home security best practices vid. Nothing crazy in depth but enough to have the basics.

[@louisrossmannsrecedinghair7703]

Good practices have to be in depth and in detail.

[@arachnomancyy]

Yeah this is going on at my work as well. I work as a janitor on nights at a hospital and having to manually write my hours has delayed payments by hours. It's been very worrying for me

[@thevoid5117]

Would love to see a deep dive for good home backup solutions 💯

[@ikaros4203]

A Linux computer with redundant/mirrored drives running Rsync

[@danveerkalirai6855]

Work for sainsburys and thankfully they have a BTEC version to keep paychecks and everything up to date in our store to some degree. Booking holidays have gone back to paper fourms which is shit. Thanks for covering this I genuinely didn't know what was going on.

[@zonearchangel]

So I was actually affected by this in a slightly different way. I used to be in a Kronos system to get paid but then I moved over to a contract position so it’s a different company that pays me. But Kronos still thought I was with them so they paid me a full 40 hour week even tho I haven’t been collecting from them in over a month. And now they want me to mail a check to them with the amount that they gave me.

[@gobalbucs]

You better get that money back to them; you’ll get arrested for fraud you don’t.

[@thomasho4680]

As someone who studies in cybersecurity, this is very helpful in learning and super informative. I recognize most of the things Muta has mentioned in the video and be able to reflect to my own studies. Thank you for the video Muta :)

[@RTLB207]

So I work in HR for a big company that uses Kronos for our employees. I've never had so many angry phone calls, and I'm like I get it bro - I ain't getting paid either 😂 Luckily, I have a husband who works his ass off so me not getting my check for a couple cycles isn't a catastrophe. I felt so bad for a lot of the people that have called me since Dec 11th. Makes you feel pretty helpless when you have someone in tears on the phone with you and you literally have zero answers for them.

[@lainiwakura1776]

Your company is breaking the law by not paying employees, I hope the law comes down on them hard.

[@SessmaruKusanagiGaming]

Your company needs to fucking pay their employees. Ransomware or not. (This was not directed AT YOU. It was directed at your company. Best of luck to all of you!)

[@maria95garcia30]

I'm interviewing for a kronos clerk position in a big company and now I'm worried about this lol any advice?

[@KillerTechniques]

Accountant here, so sorry for everyone that's going through this, I can't imagine what damage this would do to our office/employers/employees

[@jdmaine51084]

Log4J wasn't the vulnerability. It was a vulnerability within log4j, specifically the settings that enable JDNI subroutines.

[@1337ington]

I work for a government agency and this has definitely affected things in the office. HR is having to do hours manually. Everyone is getting paid for 80 hours unless the departmental managers submit excel spreadsheets with changes for sick/vacation/personal/OT.

[@thebasketofgoods9753]

Hey Muta, will you make a video regarding security practices and softwares like Apparmor, drive encryption, hardened kernals, network protection and other forms of security? I know using a VM can be a good way to test if something is malicious without risking your real data, is there any way to ensure that malicious data doesnt leak?

[@KroK013]

The first week, every hourly employee in our company was paid 40hrs with an adjustment to follow the next correct week. We've since been writing down our times, storing them on a local spreadsheet, and then forwarding them up the chain until payroll gets them. It's a lot more work for store management, but luckily we have all adapted really quickly.

[@DrEldritchPlays]

exactly why i want to get into cyber security. i want to stop this stuff from happening, or at least make it nearly impossible to do.

[@stefanmilicevic5322]

A noble cause. Joining the cyber army to protect people from danger.

[@Moonknife]

Stick to gaming.

[@DrEldritchPlays]

@@Moonknife No.

[@monokomomo4977]

too bad its never gonna happen, no matter how perfect or unbreaking something is it'll get broken eventually, nothing is 100% safe if its online

[@DrEldritchPlays]

@@monokomomo4977 True, however it is possible to make it so difficult that attacks become far less frequent.

[@RunnJake]

Up and quit a job because of this as it was more or less a break point for me. 1. I wasn't getting enough hours 2. When I did work, I was picking up 80% of my departments work load. 3. Kronos getting iced nuked my paycheck at the last second, had to have my mom pay for my car insurance that month. 4. Thankfully, picked up new job at TacoBell which tracks time through it's own program and I'm getting more than enough hours, just paid off the money I owed my mom and am finally on to getting stuff fixed on my car.

[@LittleCart]

Not me peeping that John Xina jpg on his home drive bruh 💀

[@LittleCart]

@Havenly and that's why we all love Muta

[@NoobyNot]

My job runs on kronos to and since then my hours have been fucked and same with others in my department. It's at the point where I'm close to leaving my job to get rid of the stress of working at a place where scheduling was left up to a machine and not my manager

[@snickle1980]

😐My condolences to ALL the people in the comment section who's mothers are nurses.

[@Sputnik34]

my current job suffers from this. people work upwards of 70 hour weeks here (not me lol) but still, i work overtime frequently. i'm out 300 dollars at least per paycheck. people at my job are losing upwards of a thousand dollars a paycheck

[@theFLCLguy]

Muta is the cyber version of a doomsday prepper. You don't need to run virtual machines within virtual machines. Using multiple VPNs and proxies. While obsessively keeping up with the latest cyber security news. It's like your house, you lock your doors but most don't have bars on their windows, a state of the art security system, bullet proof windows, metal doors, and a mini gun next to their beds. If you don't want your shit stolen online try not to put it online or store it online. Run an antivirus and update your software. Your not going to get personally hacked except by ransomware which a decent antivirus can prevent. It's the businesses that get hacked most often. They need to worry about keeping up with cyber security.

[@mrgraves777]

there was a loophole with Kronos from 08 to 2012 where depending on the setup the company went with you could log in from the website on your phone. home depot got taken for alot during that.

[@subashpariyar8102]

Holy shit, I work at Telstra in Australia and what started out as a “oh shit Kronos is down” has literally turned into one of my favourite KZbinr’s covering the story. Didn’t realise it was this fucking bad.

[@shaphier7057]

Oh boy! something i can relate too! my place of work used Kronos, which tracked our schedule, and payroll! during this even they changed my schedule and never updated me, which led to me getting three no call no shows for shifts i wasnt told i had, no email, no phone call, nothing! so of course i was fired and now im out of a job! and yes it took waaaay to long to get my paycheck

This has been a really scary event for everyone who works at any of these companies, god.

[@remaniac1]

Remember the ransomware notpetya attack on maersk? It affected their domain controllers globally, and the only reason they could recover was because one in like Ghana was offline at the time of the attack.

[@Mark-wq7wd]

Hilariously my fiancés work just implemented this software earlier this year. They have been locked out for weeks now I think.

[@MayW15663]

Why is that funny?

[@SetiPrime]

@@MayW15663 I was about to ask that

[@dibel3669]

@@SetiPrime doom timing?

[@velvetchord.]

I used to work as a receptionist for H&R Block last year and we also used Kronos. I hope other companies are staying up to date with tech. We are living in a generation where we are promoting NFT'S and Bitcoin. However we forget cyberattacks are a thing. Stay educated.