The Kukri DID NOT come from the Falcata or Kopis

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scholagladiatoria

scholagladiatoria

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The Kukri DID NOT come from the Falcata or Kopis. They are separated by more than a thousand years, with no connecting points.
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@ironanvil1
@ironanvil1 5 жыл бұрын
"Just because things look alike does not mean they are related" - curses, there goes my theory that Matt is a long lost member of Right Said Fred.
@flamenmartialis6839
@flamenmartialis6839 5 жыл бұрын
ROFLMAO that comment really got me.
@gadyariv2456
@gadyariv2456 5 жыл бұрын
to draw a term from biology, it's convergent evolution
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 5 жыл бұрын
Or parallel evolution.
@TemenosL
@TemenosL 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. This. ^
@velazquezarmouries
@velazquezarmouries 5 жыл бұрын
they could have a common ancestor
@midshipman8654
@midshipman8654 5 жыл бұрын
Riceball01 I think convergent evolution is a better term as parallel somewhat implies a similar timeframe.
@JordanClymer-fh3pf
@JordanClymer-fh3pf 4 ай бұрын
I think it’s very similar to how the ancient Chinese jian in use during the Roman era had designs closely mirroring renaissance swords; some were like longswords for when armor became more advanced in their civilization, some were rapier-like only without the overbuilt hilts and were aristocratic civilian sidearms. And as stated here, very much a technological evolutionary response.
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 5 жыл бұрын
“Just a brief video” Actually under twenty minutes. Are you okay Matt?
@overlorddante
@overlorddante 5 жыл бұрын
It looks like Matt but we know things can look alike and not be related. This is clearly a fake Matt.
@DragonTigerBoss
@DragonTigerBoss 5 жыл бұрын
He's doing chemo! That's why he's bald...! Oh, shit, never mind.
@marshallferron
@marshallferron 5 жыл бұрын
I suspect that both types of weapon were ultimately derived independently from the common sickle.
@bobmilaplace3816
@bobmilaplace3816 5 жыл бұрын
Me too, I thought some dude said "I tired of carrying this sickle and hatchet, I wonder if I can have Bob the Blacksmith make me a hybrid tool"
@liasrvalleysmith7515
@liasrvalleysmith7515 5 жыл бұрын
Yes finally! Someone putting these rumours to sleep thanks matt 👍🏻
@ostrowulf
@ostrowulf 5 жыл бұрын
And gave me a great idea for a new myth. His comment about "that would be like saying all straight swords descend from the gladius" makes me want to make up a bs story about the Romans that went to China sparked the idea for the jian which then Chinese/Japanes trade brought about the katana from that. Don't worry, I won't actually spred that, but I think it would be an amusing story to hear some one convinced of.
@ostrowulf
@ostrowulf 5 жыл бұрын
@@tl8211 Nice, I like that one.
@krystofdayne
@krystofdayne 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's called convergent evolution
@sushanalone
@sushanalone 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly on This marooned island, i looked at my dick and it looked just like a sausage.
@DragonTigerBoss
@DragonTigerBoss 5 жыл бұрын
Statistically speaking, you're fairly inbred mate.
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 4 жыл бұрын
Stop destroying my Greek pride jk
@maaderllin
@maaderllin 5 жыл бұрын
That would be like saying giraffes are descending from sauropods like brachiosaurus or diplodocus.
@AftabLokhandwala
@AftabLokhandwala 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some videos on ancient Indian swords.... Not the Talwar, those are damn common. I don't know of any 2nd 3rd century Indian swords. Some carvings represent straight swords similar to the Khanda. But museum specimens are 15th century or later.
@chandra_himanshu
@chandra_himanshu Жыл бұрын
There are many evidence of curved blades in India in scriptures and sculptures.
@amiscellaneoushuman3516
@amiscellaneoushuman3516 5 жыл бұрын
No, it's not like saying that "all 18th century straight bladed swords are descended from the gladius" ; it's like saying they are all descended from Japanese chokutō.
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 4 жыл бұрын
Well there are swords far older than the gladius
@maximilianolimamoreira5002
@maximilianolimamoreira5002 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatchannel195 of course,the first ones were made in the Bronze age,and they were as short as a Gladius
@illmade2
@illmade2 5 жыл бұрын
While I agree with you, saying that there is no evidence does not automatically disprove something.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 5 жыл бұрын
In other words it is probably just a case of two different cultures finding that this profile makes for a very good chopping knife/sword.
@ptk-zagreb4088
@ptk-zagreb4088 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, just curious. Didnt Alex the Great get to India? Who says that Indian temple swords arent connected to them and therfore kukris also. Usually things have a common ancestor or origin, direct or indirrect. Forgive my English but im typing on my phone and Im not a native speaker.
@ptk-zagreb4088
@ptk-zagreb4088 5 жыл бұрын
@@tl8211 true, that could be the case also.
@kleinjahr
@kleinjahr 5 жыл бұрын
Form follows function.
@MaliciousMollusc
@MaliciousMollusc 5 жыл бұрын
I certainly doubted that theory since that's style has been quite prominent in SE Asia forever.
@edi9892
@edi9892 5 жыл бұрын
Well, the Cinquedea and Barbute were most definitely inspired by weapons over a 1000 years earlier. Thus, it's not completely implausible.
@bretalvarez3097
@bretalvarez3097 5 жыл бұрын
Well it should be said that the barbute and cinquedea were intentionally made look antique-ish, and did not just pop out of nowhere like the kukri when compared to falcatas/kopis’.
@edi9892
@edi9892 5 жыл бұрын
@@bretalvarez3097 I know, but do we know that the Kukri wasn´t based on something old that inspired them?
@bretalvarez3097
@bretalvarez3097 5 жыл бұрын
@edi It’s definitely a possibility, I unfortunately don’t know much about Himalayan weaponry but I’m sure if someone looked into the history of the kukri that they would find a proto - kukri.
@TheWVgoodguy22
@TheWVgoodguy22 5 жыл бұрын
I find this a cool coincidence that this video was posted shortly after the Forged in Fire episode where the 3 round championship weapon was a Greek Kopis (which looks like the horse headed hilt Falcata that the only female winner won with a few series back) where Wil mentioned that the Kopis looks like a larger Kukri or a Kukri forward swept shape. He wasn't saying they were related, just similar shaped. Thanks for the quick video Matt. Cheers.
@francisallen5459
@francisallen5459 5 жыл бұрын
I have a good friend who is a Ex Gurkha he said the Khukuri design actually descended from a sword called a Indian recurve sword called a forward swept Tulwar sword and there are still some very ancient specimens of the Indian recurve swords in some of the monasteries in Nepal
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 5 жыл бұрын
This is kind of correct - in Nepal and parts of India you get a type of 'temple sword', as it's commonly called now. This is modeled on a type of Indian sword that indeed dates to before the appearance of kukris (16th century).
@leokocyte8943
@leokocyte8943 5 жыл бұрын
>States there's no linking weapon prior to 16th century >Proceeds to explain that weapon may be derived from any number of earlier swords displaying variations the same general style
@Rindsgulasch
@Rindsgulasch 5 жыл бұрын
Those are not mutual exclusive. He said there is no provable link, not to the falcata, not to any other sword/blade. He then gives examples of geographically and chronologically closer weapons of similar form which would lend themselves much better for speculation of heritage. Still, he doesn't say the kukri descended from those. But if I'm missing a point or exact wording, please elaborate.
@leokocyte8943
@leokocyte8943 5 жыл бұрын
@Blue-Eyed European The kukri isn't "Greek", the introduction of these earlier weapons into the picture begs that their origin be investigated and explained, were they in turn derived from earlier weaponry? What we are left with is not a rebuttal of the claim that there is a hellenic influence, but rather obfuscation (a sort of reverse god-of-the-gaps argument).
@Aconitum_napellus
@Aconitum_napellus 5 жыл бұрын
A form of convergent evolution seems to play a role in weapon/tool design. If you are trying to create a weapon or tool to solve similar problems or have a similar effect, then you are likely to end up creating a weapon that looks basically similar.
@mysticonthehill
@mysticonthehill 5 жыл бұрын
Actually even looking at the art of the Indo Greek kingdom it doesn't even depict Kopis swords but rather leaf bladed swords which were common to Greece AND India at the time. These same people should look at the kora and see if that matches their view of a greek sword with it flared tip and disk guard :))
@Theduckwebcomics
@Theduckwebcomics 5 жыл бұрын
There are statues of Alexander's warriors of the time that feature the kopis.
@justsomeguy3931
@justsomeguy3931 5 жыл бұрын
The notch on the kukri could serve to help catch the hand IF it slides up and keep it from being too deeply cut or coming too far off the grip. What I most think it is that it's a "proof" mark like Wilkinson and the cuirassiers breastplates that were shot. It's like Shiva's blessing or endorsement or magic put on a major stress point, taunting the possibility of breaking.
@philipzahn491
@philipzahn491 5 жыл бұрын
The Kukhris ancestor is of course the banana! Tzzz....
@mertgemicioglu5346
@mertgemicioglu5346 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. It's hard to prove that a knife or a sword design has influenced from another. Because requirements of functionality, knowledge, belief may change around the world concurrently. And it's possible to different people in different places, unwillingly develope similar approaches to design to gain similar advantages or to solve similar problems.
@kaimagnus5760
@kaimagnus5760 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, if you wanted to make a bladed weapon that had exceptional cutting power without completely removing the ability to thrust with it, that's about the shape most blacksmiths would have come to. Lots of weapons were independently invented despite the similarities between them.
@mallardtheduck406
@mallardtheduck406 5 жыл бұрын
I just acquired an antique Walloon sword from 1680 Matt... We need to get together and discuss this unique sword!!!
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault 5 жыл бұрын
Its just a shape good for choppin'.
@walangchahangyelingden8252
@walangchahangyelingden8252 3 жыл бұрын
Convergent design.
@calamusgladiofortior2814
@calamusgladiofortior2814 5 жыл бұрын
Nepalese knifemaker (circa 1550): "Hmmm... feel like I need a new knife design. I know! I'll make a smaller copy of a sword Alexander the Great briefly introduced to this region 1,800 years ago. Why didn't I think of it earlier?"
@KT-vs6cy
@KT-vs6cy 4 жыл бұрын
unfortunately alexander never made it to nepal or the rest of the indian sub continent. Only made it till parts of pakistan and he had to turn back.
@calamusgladiofortior2814
@calamusgladiofortior2814 4 жыл бұрын
K T I know. It was an attempt at humour ;)
@hellogiri856
@hellogiri856 3 жыл бұрын
arthur Williams Alexander the great never succeed to defeat the himalayan kingdom
@Kaiyanwang82
@Kaiyanwang82 Жыл бұрын
In biology there is a concept called convergent evolution. That happens when a similar function requires a similar structure, so you end up similar looking animals - say with elasmobranch fishes, reptiles, and mammals you have sharks, ichthyosaurs and dolphins. In the same way I assume, a similar requirement molded falcatas and kukri toward a similar shape, even if separated by space and time.
@Max_Flashheart
@Max_Flashheart 5 жыл бұрын
How many Blade Characteristics does the Kukri have in common and different with the Kopis and Falcata? The Kopis and Falcata look related and the Kukri is more weapon and tool focused. with the balance and angle back towards the handle. Seems the basic shape is great for many reasons.
@Yeknodathon
@Yeknodathon 5 жыл бұрын
All swords are descended from the Spadroon. Just sayin'...
@trabantdelux
@trabantdelux 5 жыл бұрын
Hail Spadroons!
@ericstoverink6579
@ericstoverink6579 5 жыл бұрын
I thought all swords evolved to the spadroon. It is, after all, the pinnacle of sword design.
@trabantdelux
@trabantdelux 5 жыл бұрын
@@ericstoverink6579 Perfection does not suffer from evolution...
@Yeknodathon
@Yeknodathon 5 жыл бұрын
@@ericstoverink6579 That is an extremely cogent and persuasive point. Spadroons are the alpha and omega of swords.
@attentatdefecitdisorder4348
@attentatdefecitdisorder4348 5 жыл бұрын
It goes: sword, spadroon, spork you bloody fools!
@kingkarki4488
@kingkarki4488 3 жыл бұрын
brave men rather fight in a short distance where they can better interpret hand-to-hand combat, which is rather better tactically and more agile than long swords.
@JacobTheIndoAmerican
@JacobTheIndoAmerican 4 жыл бұрын
"They are separated by more than a thousand years, with no connecting points." This is false. These recurved swords have been used from the Maurya period all the way to modern era with the Nepali examples. Nepal saved the design, unlike the rest of India. India somewhat saved it with South Indian recurved blades, and sosan pattah. It very well could have kopis origin. However art before the Greek invasion is rare in India. So it's something someone cant prove.
@JohnLamp-g5d
@JohnLamp-g5d 6 ай бұрын
The link is not between weaponry but between chopping blade designs. From ancient Greek pots you can see the exact same shape of blade, being used for butchering and various tasks apart from warfare. The Gurkhas from nepal, carried kukri as an issued weapon. Otherwise we have an effective, typical front weight, recurved blade chopper or utility knife!
@Fuilleverte
@Fuilleverte 5 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you give visual evidence? Show the Kopis, Falcata, and the Indian Sword so that you can actually see the links
@kwanarchive
@kwanarchive 5 жыл бұрын
Because people have to learn to do their own homework.
@XcaptainXobliviousX
@XcaptainXobliviousX 5 жыл бұрын
i guess matt just kind of expects people on a sword history focused channel watching a video about kukri ancestry to know what an indian temple sword looks like. but hey, when you don't, theres always google i.pinimg.com/originals/53/47/39/534739b327126265825869b63aaed7f7.jpg
@Theduckwebcomics
@Theduckwebcomics 5 жыл бұрын
I think what he's getting at is that the Indian blades start out as being quite different from the kopis or the kukuri (you can easily google examples of Indian forward canted swords), and they gradually evolve to be something close to the shape of the kukuri- so there is no direct connection to the kopis at all. If there is any connection at all it would be a very elemental one: simply putting the Indians on the track to forward canted swords as a principal. But even that is just rank speculation.
@Fuilleverte
@Fuilleverte 5 жыл бұрын
@@Theduckwebcomics I agree I could look them up easily, but as a instructional or informational video I think it would be more useful for him to include those instead of standing in front of a wall of European Cavalry Sabers. I also can see that the forward cant may be inspired by the Kopis or Falcata but not actually be descended from them Both of the earlier blades are more of a straight blade with a belly to the tip end making the appearance of a forward cant. The Kukri has a much more acute bend to the spine
@Fuilleverte
@Fuilleverte 5 жыл бұрын
@@kwanarchive True but as this is an Instructional and/or Informational video it would be better suited to showing these things at very least in the Background Instead of standing in front of European Cavalry Sabers
@eruditootidure2611
@eruditootidure2611 5 жыл бұрын
~1:10-1:15 "Indian subcontinent" is a geographical term, so it didn't "later become" the Indian subcontinent any more than it "later became" Asia.
@powers39
@powers39 5 жыл бұрын
Parallel development.
@robinschlyter309
@robinschlyter309 5 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was bald. Are we related Matt? It's too much of an coincidence!
@kwanarchive
@kwanarchive 5 жыл бұрын
We're all related ;)
@MrJumpingson
@MrJumpingson 5 жыл бұрын
waiting for the winterfell video about the long night battle
@WozWozEre
@WozWozEre 5 жыл бұрын
It'll be 10 minutes of Matt sat on the shitter. Would be about as good as that episode.
@sushanalone
@sushanalone 5 жыл бұрын
My Favourite bald guy on KZbin , dispensing truth, invalidating myths. Keep the good work up! ;P
@jonahmeert482
@jonahmeert482 5 жыл бұрын
He's not bald. His hair color is just invisible.
@mnk9073
@mnk9073 5 жыл бұрын
Based Matt Easton answering the big questions. Thank you.
@CarnalKid
@CarnalKid 5 жыл бұрын
That's why they call you "Ackchyually Easton".
@kwanarchive
@kwanarchive 5 жыл бұрын
Ackchyually, they call him Matt Context Easton.
@CarnalKid
@CarnalKid 5 жыл бұрын
​@@kwanarchive Captain Context has many aliases, which is appropriate for the Empire's greatest sabreur.
@petar.dj98
@petar.dj98 5 жыл бұрын
Is there any evidence that the yatagan could have been developed from the kopis and/or sica?
@constantinediomedes6277
@constantinediomedes6277 5 жыл бұрын
Greeks invented everything! But I am sure we did not inspire the Kukri.
@mallardtheduck406
@mallardtheduck406 5 жыл бұрын
I am part Greek, I am sure We had something to do with that... Through trade maybe?
@flashdamingo
@flashdamingo 5 жыл бұрын
The Kopis looks very similar though doesn't it....
@renato3
@renato3 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it does
@gasmonkey1000
@gasmonkey1000 2 жыл бұрын
Now I know what to troll Matt with
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 5 жыл бұрын
Strong points all, Matt! By the way, pretty please do a video on tomahawks! Get yourself a nice one(like from Old Dominion Forge or Beaver Bill), and show it off, and talk about it in a video. If Kyle at Old Dominion won't make you one due to being already overwhelmed with orders, let me know, and I'll talk to him! Thanks!
@coffeeabernethy2823
@coffeeabernethy2823 5 жыл бұрын
It's called convergent evolution in biology; examples include the marsupial Tasmanian tiger and the placental mammal dogs. No direct relationship, but similar ecological niches led to similar form for similar function.
@yanniskusogaki
@yanniskusogaki 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, I don't get it...you said there is no connecting link weapons, but then you said there are Indian swords from the 14th that look like it and it was probably inspired by those...and Alexander used the kopis in his India expedition. Who is to say those Indian swords don't have their own links tracing all the way back to Alexander's kopis? I mean, it was most probably not linked and they just though about it too since it is not a particularly genius or complex design, but then again the possibility of those Indian swords linking back to Alexander's kopis is far from zero.
@didack1419
@didack1419 2 жыл бұрын
_then you said there are swords from the 14th that look like it_ I don't know the developmental history of those swords, but they probably descent from swords or knives (or tools like sickles) that don't look like falcatas, that's why people can say that kukris do not descendent of falcatas. _The possibility of those Indian swords linking back to Alexander's kopis is far from zero._ Given that experts seem to agree that they probably did not, it's not "far from zero". If no connection between the two has been found, then it's likely that they developed independently. *If falcatas stopped being used before any sword/knife that look like them appear, then it's extremely likely that they are not related.*
@davidbradley6040
@davidbradley6040 5 жыл бұрын
That form of Kukri was an Indian design(adopted when Gurkhas joined British/Indian forces) and is different from the "ancient" Gurkha blades
@hellogiri856
@hellogiri856 3 жыл бұрын
man first of all khukuri is originated in nepal not in india and second thing Alexander the great never succeed to defeat the himalayan kingdom of nepal
@davidbradley6040
@davidbradley6040 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellogiri856 The Indian kukri was developed in shape from knives and short swords made from cattle horns.(Conversant Evolution)
@hellogiri856
@hellogiri856 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbradley6040 man there is nothing called indian khukuri there is just one and only originated place of khukuri and that country name is nepal thank you
@davidbradley6040
@davidbradley6040 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellogiri856 The traditional weapon of the Gurkha people was not the same as those issued by the Indian army.It is not hard to find pictures of these different blades.
@bamesjond1396
@bamesjond1396 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbradley6040 there are two different blades I think you are thinking of kora blade. Gorkha used it in war but it is completely different from kukri.
@TemenosL
@TemenosL 5 жыл бұрын
I'm appalled that you even have to clarify this Matt, but such is the world we live in! There is no direct descendant to these particular weapons of antiquity that I know of. Instead swords tended toward Celtic/Spatha-type designs in the West, and those eventually turned into the arming sword as I'm aware.
@jasondclark
@jasondclark 5 жыл бұрын
HA! Awesome, you totally answered my comment from your last video. Thanks!
@antivalidisme5669
@antivalidisme5669 5 жыл бұрын
A brief video of less than 5 minutes and I'm not even sure I heard a single "context" in the whole video. Matt are you feeling okay?
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 5 жыл бұрын
Stop yer Destroying my Greek Pride lol
@orion3253
@orion3253 5 жыл бұрын
You'll just have to be happy with inventing democracy, philosophy, astronomy, geometry, and engineering.
@DragonTigerBoss
@DragonTigerBoss 5 жыл бұрын
@@orion3253 The Turks claim that they invented all of that too. I want Trojan War II.
@Dionyboz
@Dionyboz 4 жыл бұрын
@@DragonTigerBoss really mate?
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 5 жыл бұрын
Now I want to know more about kopises and falcatas.
@wendigo1619
@wendigo1619 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Kora Sword its probably my favorite weapon from that area
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 5 жыл бұрын
Kopis blades lived all through History, from Greeks to Indians to Romans to Achaemenid to Persians from Byzantine to Russians to Ottomans to modern years. Its not just Alexander times. Kukri came from Indian Sousson Pata which came from the Kopis to Nepalese Kora to Kukri
@d.mat.zero6525
@d.mat.zero6525 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Can’t wait for GoT S8E4!!
@wheelietime7062
@wheelietime7062 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man 👍
@l0rf
@l0rf 5 жыл бұрын
These rumors were a thing? Like you say, there's thousands of years (and kilometers) between those weapons.
@sushanalone
@sushanalone 5 жыл бұрын
People like to attach to shit they like, not which is plausible and against their bias. That's why Matt has a channel.
@kaimagnus5760
@kaimagnus5760 5 жыл бұрын
Well, about 1800 years. But close enough
@EattinThurs61
@EattinThurs61 5 жыл бұрын
There where greek citys in what is now Afghanistan...
@sushanalone
@sushanalone 5 жыл бұрын
@@EattinThurs61 Its not that much of a world changing idea for a culture that had backward curving blade to invent forward curving blades. Does not have to be Eurocentric. p.s. That said Matt mentioned the Indians had forward curving blades for an indefinite number of years in the past.
@EattinThurs61
@EattinThurs61 5 жыл бұрын
@@sushanalone just saying what I said, also there where an empire in the region AD so all parts where connected. Similar blade shape in Thailand too. And then there is the Philipines too. There are boats that travel the sea, ideas spread with travel and trade...l
@blaumax918
@blaumax918 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander did not go to a place that later became India. It was always India to start with.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 5 жыл бұрын
So does the kukri as a large utility knife descend from the weapon or vice versa?
@duchi882
@duchi882 5 жыл бұрын
*It descended from my basement*
@Citrakite
@Citrakite 5 жыл бұрын
I would swear you talked about this in a previous video. *damn Mandela effect*
@MarkH457
@MarkH457 5 жыл бұрын
And the kopis did not descend from the Egyptian kopesh. I always find that amusing as well.
@erichusayn
@erichusayn 5 жыл бұрын
Cool video!
@benstoyles1297
@benstoyles1297 5 жыл бұрын
Convergent evolution. Like the LangesMesser and the bowie knife.
@J40JesusIsLord
@J40JesusIsLord 5 жыл бұрын
If your head is severed at one stroke of the blade-does it really matter if it was a Kukri or Kopis?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 5 жыл бұрын
If an orange weighs the same as a roe deer antler, are submarines jealous? (this is how your question appears ;-)
@J40JesusIsLord
@J40JesusIsLord 5 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria LOL, I was joking-I think if you look far enough into history, edged weapons will fall into certain types (cut, thrust, chop etc) no matter what culture develops them. I'm no blade expert-but I've always found the Kukri shape to be a little scary looking!
@inregionecaecorum
@inregionecaecorum 5 жыл бұрын
It would be a bit like saying that the Bowie evolved from the Seax. Mind you I do not think it would be a loada bollox to figure out the ancestor of the Scottish Dirk :)
@neatchipops3428
@neatchipops3428 Жыл бұрын
So you try to disclaim a claim, by making another unsupported claim?
@user-ft1xf8wk9m
@user-ft1xf8wk9m 4 ай бұрын
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@sava2228
@sava2228 2 жыл бұрын
You are Very Wrong!! Yes, khukri is very close relationship with the weapon of Alexander the Great !! And kukri is Indian weapon not Nepali. Ask custos of armory museum in Athens.....
@kentallard8852
@kentallard8852 5 жыл бұрын
They're all similar because form follows function.
@gregtheredneck1715
@gregtheredneck1715 5 жыл бұрын
Well next you're gonna say that the katana can't cut through solid steel or that rapiers can cut. Where will this madness end🤣
@kathrynmacrae1470
@kathrynmacrae1470 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual, Matt. A review of the Game of Thrones 'The Long Night' battle next, please? I can't wait to hear what you make of it!
@mr31337
@mr31337 5 жыл бұрын
Matt has a point, the Greeks weren't the only ones to do cookery...
@wadesmalling83
@wadesmalling83 5 жыл бұрын
So, you're saying that the only sword, that looks just like the signature weapon of the Gurkha, from India, and was the only edged weapon feared by the Roman army, in no way relates to the short form blade that everyone considers the descendent of that same, forward canted forge... also from India. I suppose I can't attribute the black plague to rats, either or rain to water evaporation.
@gewgulkansuhckitt9086
@gewgulkansuhckitt9086 5 жыл бұрын
Here's a good picture of a sosun pattah (various spellings exist) sword: www.higgins-collection.org/artifacts/2411.1 According to that website, such swords appear in Indian artwork dating back to the 500's (AD presumably). That's very old, but it's a long time after Alexander the Great invaded around 327 to 325 BC. Here's another Indian sword that looks a bit more kukri-like. www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=87824&stc=1 To put it in context, it came from this website: www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15495&page=1 which has a HUGE collection of antique sword photos - very interesting. There's also a type of Nepalese sword called a Kora sword (also used in India) that has an inward curving blade. www.antiquestradegazette.com/news/2017/the-sword-with-strong-connections-from-the-cotswolds-and-sweden-to-nepal-india-and-australia/ Here are some interesting kukri pictures that include a bayonet kukri. vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=592 Note that there's at least two kukris with a different type of notch that the standard one. Maybe these kukris could shed some light on what the notch means. It's possible that they show a fancier version of the notch for example that's a less stylized version of whatever the notch is supposed to be. vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?s=d8d0beab04e53fc700c4986ad9e45426&attachmentid=3151&stc=1 vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?s=d8d0beab04e53fc700c4986ad9e45426&attachmentid=3153&stc=1
@dannysees
@dannysees 2 жыл бұрын
It's descended from the PIE/Aryan sword used for slaughter and mounted warfare...same as the ones in Persia, Iberia, Turkey/Caucasus, Greece, India...a rose by any name.
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 5 жыл бұрын
I take it the Falchion wasn't influenced by the Falcata thn?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 5 жыл бұрын
No, they were separated by over a thousand years.
@Trianglewitch.
@Trianglewitch. 4 жыл бұрын
They are just convergent technology
@thebigs14
@thebigs14 4 жыл бұрын
So when Alexander the great carried the kopis into India, that didn't matter at all?...
@RUPEETRADER
@RUPEETRADER 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't enter India was defeated and send back
@kwanarchive
@kwanarchive 5 жыл бұрын
My mother always told me to never make a copy of a kopi.
@chandra_himanshu
@chandra_himanshu Жыл бұрын
Alexander did come to India it did not became Indian subcontinent later. There is enough historical evidence to show they know where they were coming.😂😂😂
@srgplay4526
@srgplay4526 4 ай бұрын
Lol Alexander didn't even reach the area of current Nepal/India.
@HidamariNuko
@HidamariNuko 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the travesty that was the Winterfell battle.
@kwanarchive
@kwanarchive 5 жыл бұрын
What travesty? They weren't fighting a human army. No plan would have helped in any situation.
@HidamariNuko
@HidamariNuko 5 жыл бұрын
@@kwanarchive They could have done much better. To name a few things: Once the trench was lit, they sat around doing nothing, and didn't use archers until the wights broke through and started climbing the walls. They sent the cavalry on a suicide charge with no support. They put trebuchets in front of the infantry, and only used them once. It was bad. More spectacle than sense.
@kwanarchive
@kwanarchive 5 жыл бұрын
@@HidamariNuko Yeah, because they were freaking tired and probably holding down their lunch. That's the whole point of an undead army - they don't get tired or frightened. So it's entirely an expected human reaction to use the occasion to take a breather, rather than do the mechanical thing and keep fighting. As for archers, the trench was quite far from the wall. They'd just waste too many arrows for most of them just to fall short. Again, they're humans, most of them probably weren't great archers, and they're not Lars Andersons rapid firing with a piss weak bow. The suicide charge is how the Dothraki fight. You think they're going to take to training from knights about how to fight? Dothraki are well known for their defeat, charging against the Unsullied, and yet they keep doing it against all enemies anyway. You think they'd suddenly change their nomad shock tactics? They used them once to provide the initial hit just before the Dothraki made contact. Why would they use the trebuchets then? They're not Ramsay Boltons firing arrows and not caring if they hit their own. Then the wights quickly closed the distance, which means no trebuchet could have adjusted their range quickly enough. How would the trebuchets have helped at close range? Hit the Unsullied? Maybe you think Ramsay Bolton is a military genius, but killing your own people is generally a bad strategy in war.
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement 3 жыл бұрын
The Yataghan came from the Kopis.
@padalan2504
@padalan2504 5 жыл бұрын
Some people are just too obsessed with origins of stuff. No idea why some people think nobody can just invent a new thing.
@Trianglewitch.
@Trianglewitch. 5 жыл бұрын
Convergent technology
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 5 жыл бұрын
Falcatas were the most advanced swords in pre-roman history.
@trabantdelux
@trabantdelux 5 жыл бұрын
How about Thracian Skalme?
@Theduckwebcomics
@Theduckwebcomics 5 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt that there is zero direct connection between the ancient Greek swords and the 16th-century Nepalese kukuri. I do ask though if the Greek Macedonians had any influence on the very early Indian swords (some having a trend to be forward canted for example?). I really don't know that much about the weapons of bronze age India. I know what you're getting at: the early forward canted Indian swords are nothing like a kopis or a kukuri, they gradually evolved into something closer to a kukuri shape. If there could be any influence at all it would only be on a trend to forward canted weapons. If that influence even exists.
@axer01
@axer01 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Same case with the Roman Gladius and the Caucasian Kindjal.
@Xentillus
@Xentillus 5 жыл бұрын
The kukri came from a kitchen knife, obviously.
@WozWozEre
@WozWozEre 5 жыл бұрын
Cookery > cookri > kookri > kukri
@jonahmeert482
@jonahmeert482 5 жыл бұрын
This is the theory that makes the most sense.
@aptcmpasion
@aptcmpasion 4 жыл бұрын
oh, but wouldn;t it make a cool movie plot, finding alexanders' kopis in a hidden temple in nepal, mt everest!
@londiniumarmoury7037
@londiniumarmoury7037 5 жыл бұрын
Kukcentrism you say?
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 5 жыл бұрын
Well there are no knives better than kukris so I think yes. Im talking here mostly about those light-weight ones or modern kukris Not over 6mm of blade thickness.
@njuham
@njuham 5 жыл бұрын
pronounced "cookery"?
@padalan2504
@padalan2504 5 жыл бұрын
Do a commentary of this vid plz. (Advanced Swords With Special Features You Never Considered by BE AMAZED)
@dynamiteduo2613
@dynamiteduo2613 Ай бұрын
It did. Just as falcata came from kopis. I don't know why people make kind of a matter of honor about this. Does it make you unworthy, or the people less proud, or what? Falcata came from Greek influence on Hispania by the Greek colonies, and Kurki came from the same Greek influence from Alexander and the Hellenism. It's almost impossible to image why such a unique shape is totally indentical to the kopis, especially since it's first examples are from just right after the hellenistic period. Same in Hispania, no other Celtic people ever used anything similar to falcata. So yes, both falcata and kurki came from the kopis. Even if those are 'national weaopons'. So what? Let's deal with it, and move on.
@shubham100
@shubham100 5 жыл бұрын
Khukri came from trident of lord shiva himself .
@augustpolca612
@augustpolca612 5 жыл бұрын
Very brief
@kyomademon453
@kyomademon453 5 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the mighty falcata of ancient iberians, sword that could be bent all over the shoulder and turn back straight, transported all the way to asia yeah makes lots of sense
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