The L-ephant in the Room

[@amwoodam]

I want nothing to do with another L Word without the original cast. It’s not the same without you guys.

[@megandohertyholland]

HONESTLY.

[@Lauren-92]

FACTS

[@kelsian_smith03]

It really flopped when they focused too much on Finley and Sophie. I wanted more Alice, Shane, Bette and Tina.

[@Andy-cp4zi]

And omg PLZ fire whoever did gen Q and actually bring back dynamic stories! And PLZ bring BACK JENNY! Just make it she never went swimming and move from there.

[@BridgettaStoned]

Yall are wild I thought gen q did an amazing job.

[@lovefromthecosmos]

this is my superbowl

[@parallelsmika8130]

Even if it’s green lit, we’re not watching 💩 without y’all. Y’all are the show🤷🏽‍♀️

[@barbaratfn]

I really enjoy how the episodes now start right in the middle of your dialogue. It feels like I'm secretly listening in on your conversation.

[@seane6171]

I wish we had a different show runner and the L word Gen Q turned out different. It had soooo much potential. I was bummed when they announced who would run the show, I've seen her shit and they weren't good. Here's to hoping we'll have a movie bases on the original cast and we'll ignore Canon minus Gigi cos she was the best thing about that show.

[@rahfitah8019]

Wasn't the director Ilene Chaike? The same person who directed the original one?

[@awkweirdabby8352]

@@rahfitah8019showrunner is a different job than director

[@NathaliLima1]

@@princess-violet Marja-Lewis Ryan was the showrunner of 'The L Word: Generation Q'. Director and showrunner are not the same

[@tess6536]

I was really bummed when Gen Q was cancelled because the third season really did have a lot of original series energy, that season one and two didn't necessarily. It's always so strange to me that shows often get cancelled when they're actually finding their groove. Tashas return made me tear up but if anything I wish it had gotten one more season to not end on such an awful note with Tess.

[@TheAMW]

Season 3 was utter trash, which was why it was cancel. Not sure what you’re smoking lol

[@femmefataleracer]

lol , when leisha imitates kate, with her deep voice, it’s hilarious….oh well about the L word ny, i definitely fell for it, i guess i was hungry for something, and the adjacent snack satisfied me…womp womp. i’ll just keep enjoying pants. thank you for the clarity.

[@kathyschwab9949]

As an artist, I would think Leisha could design and paint on a pair of white Doc Martens, a one of a kind design and auction them off.

[@doglover44]

I never believed the Lword NY show. Lol. These episodes need to be longer. We just get into it and then we hear wrap it uo! 😢

[@jackiefergusson9779]

I love how into style Kate really is. To get the look she wants she is really thinking deeply.

[@mariamabah836]

These should be longer!!!

[@marianalem6601]

Fine, I'll watch Hacks, you convinced me. Also, I read that article about L Word NY and got excited, then it hit me that it was fake. Love ya ❤.

[@rosannam.vetticad7749]

*so relieved* that you addressed that BIG L-ephant in the room. It's been annoying seeing everyone share articles from obscure, odd magazines claiming the new show has been confirmed etc etc when all those articles did was refer to that other one+ year old article! AND NO CONFIRMATION FROM YOU GUYS who should actually know, more than those dumb magazines. One expects some intelligence from people who can read, to distinguish between fake click bait articles and real news!!! 😅😊

[@DaniiRayne]

Finally! A week late but i finally got to watch the episode! The day when I will become a billionaire , I will put the L word back on air and give the people what they want, so help me Sappho! 😂

[@MaddeMay33]

I think Kate should read audio books because that voice is everything 💕

[@rahfitah8019]

I just saw an add for an audio erotica series narrated by her! So I guess your (our) wishes came true 😅

[@rosarrr666]

waiting for kate to dicuss Quinn lol

[@taratattooed]

Leisha freaking Hailey …. Omg! You look great, haven’t changed since high school! 35 years, you look great! Still my favorite actor .. now with a podcast, and a KZbin channel! Dude, you’re still awesome! 🫶🏻🍻 much love 🤗 Bellevue… Jesus, where did the time go.

[@shoshnane]

I’ve been feeling so exasperated by my being a lesbian lately and just want to say I discovered this podcast and watched like 10 episodes in a row today. Listening to you guys talk about your lesbian lives and your cats and partners has made me feel so much better 😭 like my life is whole AS IS. Usually I don’t get sappy in comment sections but just thank you. And I know you had mentioned that you always felt you were doing the lord’s work w the L word by filling a black void, but you’re filling it now w this pod!! 🫶🏻

[@charliec2960]

So, wait... The elephant in the room is 'L word rumours' and NOT the fact that Kate just dropped sexy, riveting episodes on Quinn?? C'mon! THAT'S the elephant. 🐘

[@Radiancegrace]

This content is so fun-the synergy between the two just as sweet off screen as on 🙏🏻

[@madeline824]

Jennifer said at a recent Con event that TLWNY was going to happen but these things take time, so I guess this is maybe where the rumour mill started again. If the show does return in some iteration, it will have to include you two legends!

[@vanessagallegos9689]

I love listening to their anecdotes recording a project. And Kate's excited face and then disappointment at not receiving the reaction she expected from Leisha is priceless.😂

[@user-rf7gh8uu9j]

I did not realize how much I had in common with Kate and then I hear "chambray"... then the Ebay process... Didn't know anyone else had this incredibly niche skill. Now I want to see the shirt haha

[@rebecapoliane]

I've just finished The L word (loved the show/hated the ending) and it´s so refreshing to see you guys talking!! It really lifts my mood!

[@ryangoldberg4915]

THE RUNNING OVER THE DOC MARTINS HAD ME WHEEZING... THAT IS SO KATE CODED OMG

[@gabirana]

0:40 y'all are giving us callbacks!! This is definitely a tv show 😂

[@Cloud-ql3oy]

Wow what da hell. How did I not know about this podcast?! Love you guys. I was watching the first season of the Lword in the closet lol. You 2 are my favorite actors on the show. The show humanized me. You guys should do your own show maybe single best friends 1 divorced and just romcon daily life from there. I will pay direct, lesbians need their own streaming network and studios. We are the bottom for content with a solid audience. God bless u guys and thank you for sharing your talents.

[@danieller1979]

Started watching Hacks because of PANTS! I hadn't heard of it before. Great show!

[@caras4766]

Sad to hear The L Word NY won't be happening. I would've loved to see it in a new setting. You're right that The L Word was really filling a gap in representation. It feels like we're at a point with TV where most shows will have 1 queer character in the cast, but not many shows with majority queer casts are getting made (and when they are they're soon cancelled). Personally, if I had to choose between the two, I would much rather an increase in capital Q Queer shows and for more other shows to just have entirely straight casts, especially as a lot of the time the sole queer character in an otherwise straight show feels like a bit of a token (underdeveloped, not well written, there just to fill a quota). Shows written specifically by and for queer audiences tend to offer much more nuanced & authentic representation that actually resonates with us, and I wish we could see more of it. I would especially love a sitcom with an all queer cast!

[@courtney_paige89]

Nah. Forget "queer." I just want another lesbian show. Give the public a L and B women show with a G thrown in and leave out the rest of the alphabet acronym. Gen Q failed because of the inclusivity of the rest of the acronym. The public didn't tune in to see that, no one honestly wants to see that, and it was pushed on them. The reason TLW was so successful was because it was almost exclusively about women - lesbians - loving other lesbians. Either in friendship or romance. Alice was bi (Moira/Max was horrible), but otherwise, the show was so successful because it was about actual lesbians and not "no-labels" women or men who identify as women and are now calling themselves "lesbians."

[@Vvvbbbbb680]

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[@AnaisMorales33]

Totally agree with Kate , pot is dangerous for your mental health whatever people say.

[@deboradebora3718]

I'm 35 and wake and bake is still my fav thing to do on weekends lol

[@JR_Donofrio]

I’m so happy this podcast exists. Love You Both

[@danihusom8668]

Same about weed- when I was 17-21, it was so fun... then one day a switch flipped suddenly and it became so anxiety inducing. I couldn't imagine doing the things I used to do high. So weird how that happens.

[@idamarie6701]

these episodes are the best part of my week🫶

[@dianeaniol7186]

Shows with good concepts with good storylines and good actors will thrive on television or on cable. If a program is trash then people are not going to waste their time to watch it. People have multiple choices to choose from now.

[@EMVelez]

What? We need to see that epic dance number! What a loss!

[@NathaliLima1]

I really wish for a show about lesbian life outside of the franchise, with new characters and new stories. I truly believe that would work-a new show for the younger generation to be inspired by and for the older generation too

[@OloIyansan]

200% with you in the grass. When I was 18-21 I enjoyed it but like a couple times a month. I always had such a physical reaction but had fun! Since I would say 2012 was the last time I even took one small hit. I had a major panic attack and almost called 911! Never again!

[@Willpayforsleep]

The most depressing thing ever about anything l-word related. I agree the “hope” about it is too precious to eff around with. Also, Kate, imma give you what U needed real quick- YAYAY YOU FINISHED HACKS! 🎊🎉👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 so proud!!! So excited to talk about it ready GO! (I know that feeling when ur like, I did the thing! Where’s my excitement? So I hope that helps😬😬)

[@TraceyMontesArt]

The best soap in the 90s Santa Barbara ! Weed gave me anxiety attacks

[@ElliottRaez-wu5jb]

I just discovered this chanel and have been really enjoying the casts!

[@kgolem79]

I am Sooo excited to "see" you both! I just learned of your Podcast, but I'm visual so You Tube is my go to.

[@jese1978]

I love watching Leisha watch Kate tell a story, she's always at the edge of her seat. 😊😅

[@cheyennemckenzie5969]

The exact same thing happened to me with weed, that happened with Kate. I smoked like crazy from 16-19 and then it just flipped like a switch. I can’t smoke now without freaking out. It just isn’t the vibe anymore. I wish I could smoke like my friends do. I still miss it.

[@savannahthomas4170]

I love how you both are always wondering if things are interesting to your audience, it cracks me up because I would watch you two watch paint dry. Your show feels like hanging with friends. 🩷

[@not.taylorwrenmarie]

Also, y’all could totally do way longer episodes. I’ve binged like five hours of Pants at a time listening to old episodes. I would definitely be interested in hearing y’all chat for longer than 30 minutes. 🫶🏼

[@ROCKONplaceboforever]

Love this podcast 🔥 so good ❤ i would never watch any L word with u both absolutely no

[@nicomedessantiago6259]

Target Audience, Schmarget Audience. I'm not it but I LOVE your conversations. You've actually brightened up a pretty down week over here. Keep Pantsin' and thanks for the laughs and sharing your friendship with us.

[@storybellz]

Please, address the other elephant in the room - what happened to Rachel Shelley, and why was her departure never addressed?

[@PinsNova]

Alaska Daily was a favorite of mine, had Hillary Swank in it, one season, that show was AMAZING. Broke my heart.

[@lynneraaflaub445]

Third rewatch of Hacks! Such great acting, writing, and cast. Really disappointing to hear the news about The L Word New York,😥 representation is sorely lacking. Thanks for clarifying the untruth of these articles, and giving everyone false hope.The landscape of television series airing or being picked up has now become so unpredictable. So many of my favorite shows have been cancelled. Love your PANTS 👖 planter, and your new space. I haven't given up hope that the OG'S will do a Con in the near future, and I will get to meet all of you.❤🇨🇦

[@tess6536]

I had a similar experience with cannabis, it calmed my anxiety and helped me fall asleep for a few years but suddenly it flipped, I got horrible panic attacks and got so paranoid. I have a theory that it's the high levels of THC because I took a few drags off of someone's joint a couple of years ago that was rolled with CBD only (no THC) buds and that was the first time in 15 years that I got a similar effect to what I used to get.

[@larabrito55]

LEISHA, I LOVE YOUR T-SHIRT!

[@deejamieson]

I recently found myself some crushed velvet Docs. I might sleep in them.

[@avball79]

I'm late to the game, but I'm glad you found your shirt!

[@Taurus_Butterfly]

🤣Leisha with the drama and the table flipping. I could never smoke pot now, lol. I haven't since 23 (I'm 51.) I didn't like the way it made me feel anymore, so I gave it up. It was no longer fun, I would get paranoid and anxious. Pot is legal where I live, there's too many pot shops in a small area, and I think people do edibles before they leave the parking lot, they're almost hitting me when they pull out on to the highway. Doc's must've been different in the 90's, I didn't find them too stiff at all. Julia Louis-Dreyfus is just awesome! Kate, did you ever watch The New Adventures Of Old Christine?

[@rosalienmander9357]

Hehe ya'll should know that in the Netherlands we use the word "pot" as slang for lesbian, similar to 'dyke'. Its because women used to relax tension with sitting on pots (filled with warm water) lmao

[@courtneyhavillanddean2437]

I love these two so much it hurts

[@victoriagoingforit6183]

Loved Hacks! I was lucky enough to see Jean Smart in the lesbian play Blue Fish Cove at the Fountain theater in L.A in 1982. I went with my very first girlfriend and we were blown away by Jean. I remember thinking that she was going to be a star. It was such a small and intimate theater and we just loved seeing a lesbian play. Awesome memory. 🎉 They say if you eat the same thing everyday, eventually you may become allergic to it. Perhaps that's the same with pot. For some people. Glad you found your chambray shirt Kate. Now I need to go look up what that is. I wonder if I can find something like that on Thredup. Fun show guys.

[@LotusMindandbodyFlow]

This is what I look forward to all week 🫶🏼✨🌈 love you ladies

[@tiptapkey]

I didn't have much hope for The L Word NY because TV is so chaotic and unreliable these days, but it's good to know those articles are nonsense just for peace of mind. The unreliability of TV is sad because I think knowing what shows were on what night actually helped me feel stable as a kid with ADHD and an unstable parent. Sometimes I wonder if kids are drawn to certain online streamers because they stream on strict schedules and are always there for their audience.

[@SpeCialJ_83]

Saw Scotty at Torguga Fest several years ago so I get what you mean when you saw him 😆

[@dianam9028]

I remember Scotty from General Hospital 😄 Remember John Stamos as Blackie? I love you both... you make me laugh. 😂

[@vaneruin]

I relate to being a master at ebay, it can get addicting though lol

[@leapbaby]

I’m still a GH fan Leisha! And Scotty is back 😂

[@dianeaniol7186]

Pot is legal now in California You just have to be careful with the strength of it. Also be careful with edibles. One time I had a small amount of MMJ orange juice. My lips were numb It made me feel good. I was feeling no pain

[@stephanijussani4862]

I think its time to let The L word rest... another bad show can ruin the original one for people. And, there's nothing wrong on things ending, the show can always be our favorite without have to be relived

[@thediva2098]

Not watching anything unless you’re both in it, if it ever happens. Bring back the OG L word team.

[@ryangoldberg4915]

ALSO WHEN IS KATE GONNA TALK ABOUT HER QUINN AUDIO 😆

[@jessicah.5260]

Hi you two 😘 Always anticipate your episodes, makes my week! ❤🎉

[@mariemm1204]

Weed has been an amazing healing thing for me ❤

[@josepha133]

Does anyone know where Kate's glasses are from?

[@valeriamilesi9945]

Can someone link that article?

[@RoseyPosey545]

Totally with you Kate… and they’re marketing to kids. How many are going to end up in psych wards? I’m told I over-react, but I think it’s horrifying.

[@AlohaTrolls]

GH! ❤❤❤❤

[@HorchataHour]

Keep posting I am such a fannnnnnnn❤❤❤❤

[@dartabm1245]

you two are always comedic gold :)) so smart and so fun to watch, I feel like gen Q is as you were saying, it didn't have any true direction or stable story lines, it felt like they were too busy including everyone and being woke (which is great when it's done tastefully and not in a rush)

[@barkaxii]

Kate's biceps veins 🤩💪

[@EmiliaSkade]

13:16 guys there might be a problem with the audio especially leisha's but now kate too

[@shannoncrotts227]

It took you, Kate saying it was a show worth watching, for me to start watching Hacks!

[@myrriahxochitl]

That was So wild 😂 #thetableflip

[@littlefurnace]

Kate, that is a very generous use of the term 'journalists'.

[@racerinred]

What is that on Leishia's t shirt? 😊

[@dianeaniol7186]

There are more gay and lesbian characters and storylines on TV programming now. The characters are portrayed in a positive light. I think over all The entertainment industry has progressed.

[@miraintheforest]

Yall being scared of Mary jane is funny lol

[@dianedugan699]

Ditch Weed😊

[@FlorenceBstrd]

I’m so happy this podcast exists 🥹

[@Kittell14]

No Spotify this week?

[@pantspodcast]

it's up!

[@Kittell14]

@@pantspodcast thanks! I kept checking it all morning. 😅

[@nicoles.2588]

Kate- you have to wear your new chambray on the show ?! Please..

[@RandyNerd-ev9jh]

:/ pot went sideways for me too

[@KaitlynRyanwantsyou2laugh]

L word Australia directed by Baz Luhrmann. A colourful interpretation of the fingering with fireworks and Des’ree “kissing you” with Shane and Carmen. That’s the rumour I heard anyways 😂

[@LauraNowara]

I Love you Guys so much 🙏🏼✌🏻☀️✨🌹🌹

[@sonianosfy3915]

I like it when you talk about streaming series! Hacks I miss it I’ll see it. Leisha your t-shirt is cool where you got it?

[@_V_M_D_]

guys, you should collab with other lesbian youtuber, it would be great. They all, guest and host, are mentioning the L word and it would be nice to see who you guys would interact with young and newly out lesbians.

[@EMVelez]

I haven’t worn Docs since I was about 27. Don’t think I would wear them today. So heavy and uncomfortable. I’m all about comfort now.

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

Doc Marten did a lite range which I bought a couple of pairs of, they are surprisingly light weight and comfortable but I think they stopped making them, which is a shame.

[@orangeskythinking]

“Guys, I’m gonna need some Gucci” 🤣🤣✨🌈👍🏻🧡👍🏻🌈✨

[@theXjames]

I also get anxiety from green now and it is sad for me.

[@milni9006]

yayyy pantsss

[@beywatch10]

i need to see this 20 dollars ebay find!

[@scarlette_rot]

Love Leisha's shirt so much. Does anybody know what the brand is?

[@pantspodcast]

The artist's name is Justin Teodoro