The Last Of Us Episode 3 Aftershow

[@enzogonzales3038]

I am a 44 yr old father of 2 daughters who never played the games and knew nothing about them until the show. I cried like a baby in front of my teenage daughters who had never seen me cry. I was emotionally exhausted after this episode. I never would have imagined a tv show about zombies and a relationship between 2 men could connect with me on an emotional level about love sacrifice and purpose. my kids kept saying "papi are you ok" ..... Bill's love for Frank is how I view my love for my wife and kids best episode of television I have ever seen.

[@tommyanderson4021]

I'm a 43 year old father of a 8 year old son and a 5 year old daughter. I'm right there with ya. Except I was by myself. My kids ain't watching this.

[@retrotony4119]

Bill saved Frank, and Frank saves Bill. Without them Joel and Ellie don’t get supplies or a vehicle to get out. Not to mention that gun that Ellie acquired, will come back in a big way, to save Joel? Purpose.

[@SecondTake123]

You should put a spoiler warning.

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

Exactly. What a great description.

[@emilolsen5120]

Favourite lines: "do you love me?" "Yes" "Then love me the way I want you to love me"

[@august_b1]

I think you guys missed a point with the timing of their death. Bill started playing the 80’s Radio song at the end of the first episode. So they died the night that Joel, Tess, and Ellie left the QZ

[@gunnarbrunstig8377]

No he had a timer he needed to resset evry few weeks and IF he did not resset it it would play 80s music

[@alcorgarcia4882]

From the opening shot of Joel building a rock tower on a river bed to the closing shot of the window, this episode is a masterpiece in television. I love this episode so much.

[@raulreviews]

I think Frank and Bill died a week before Joel, Tess and Ellie left the QZ.. at the end of Ep 1, they showed the radio turn on n it was playing an 80s hit - which means trouble. When Joel and Ellie entered Bill's bunker, he said that the music was playing cz it was a fail safe of it the code had not been reset in a week.

[@imtired1696]

Good catch. 👍

[@sriver004]

The flowers died too quick for just a week no? We see Bill water them on the last day. When Joel walks up he sees they're dying. Not fully but still pretty bad. So probably a month or so no? I don't think the flowers would look that bad in a week. But idk I'm not a gardening expert 😅

[@d3l3tes00n]

I really loved how they bonded through music.. something that a lot of people would consider useless in that world, but something that's truly necessary to connect. Frank gave Bill food to survive.. while Bill gave Frank hope to survive.

[@TheLordBizwah]

Give Nick Offerman a friggin Emmy!!! He was so incredible. I found this episode so relatable and it destroyed me. So beautiful.

[@SalsaPie]

"At the risk of sounding like a fucking t-shirt, love is love." I'm going to remember this quote for a long time. I love it.

[@kempiro]

To me, this wasn't a side plot at all, because Bill's letter is a spot on mirror of Joel's inner life. He had a reason to live in his daughter and he failed her, and he had another reason to live in Tess, and he failed her. And, just like Bill, Joel wanted to die rather than continue living after both those losses. Joel was never gonna tell us, or any character in the story, what's going on with him. This was a *brilliant* b-story mirroring the main story.

[@chefryan2099]

Nick offerman was impeccable casting. I could not imagine anyone else playing that role.

[@vincentwalker3280]

The last portrait that Frank was working on of Bill showed the deteriorating effects of his illness. The running blue paint used for Bill's eye trailing off.

[@jwiggs82]

I also think that the final shot of the window was also a nod to the game.

[@HeyItsMeLookAtThis]

The window is also the title screen for the game

[@claytonbearden7793]

I seen this mentioned somewhere else, but the body pit with the blanket and showing the baby was like the girl in the red coat in Shindler's List.

[@jesorinsekwa4054]

As was the little boy with green shoelaces in the pilot

[@claytonbearden7793]

@@jesorinsekwa4054 Yeah I think that was actually what I was thinking of, but I think that comparison is fitting in both instances. That's one thing I respect I appreciate about Craig Mazin and even Neil Druckman, they both respect their audience. They don't feel they need to explain every nuance and handhold us, that the imagery tells the story. I know neither directed this episode, I'm sure every other director is on board with their vision and even though this is what they call a "Standalone" episode it still serves the overarching narrative and someone who has played both games numerous times and that owns every version of the 1st game, I've actually been completely on board with all of the additions and or subtractions. Like the JC crew said story beats that work in the game don't always translate to film whether movie or show. Now as much as me and my fiance are in love with this episode, I am with most people that have played the game that even with all the beauty and wonder in this episode. I still think we should have gotten some of the Ellie, Joel, and Bill interaction, especially Ellie and Bill. Some of the best and funniest dialogue in the whole game and I think Bella and Nick would have destroyed! All that being said I think people should stop and realize that this show is a cultural event, almost what the walking dead seemed it was on it's way to doing. (Scott Gimple mistake. Getting rid of Darabont.) Anyways didn't mean to drone on with this soliloquy, but in closing I love this show and I pray they keep the momentum.

[@tammyyaniro5455]

I don't understand wanting to have everything cut to the shortest time possible. If I am watching something engrossing with beautiful storytelling, I want to savor it for as long as possible and I am sorry when it ends!

[@DeRockMedia]

idunno, i thought 3 Hobbit films was a good idea at first.

[@seeloffdoee]

The Owl camera is cool, we have one in our conference room at my office. Not sure how I feel about it as a viewer for this setting, but glad you guys can actually look at each other while discussing!

[@alchemo]

After episode 5 it is clear that the change of Bill’s story arc is serves a greater purpose in highlighting the theme and mood of the whole series

[@TheRulersBack45]

The new camera set isn’t appealing.. speaking as a member of the audience

[@Magdalena8008s]

I agree.

[@Im_Ish]

My new head cannon for the game is Frank knew he was getting sick and decided to end his life without Bill knowing. Even went as far as to write a mean suicide letter to make sure Bill didn't feel sad for him.

[@Henrique-wv9xq]

I genuinely don't get how people can say this is a filler episode, it's literally a part of the journey of Joel and Ellie, we just got more backstory showing how it got to the point where they arrived in Bill's house, while also showing what's still worth fighting for in this world and I'm not even gonna talk about the importance of that letter to Joel. Funny how when the show is super faithful to the game people complain "what's the point of me watching it then hurr durr" and when the show takes it's own approach to characters while still giving them the same purpose they had in the game, people complain about too many changes. The IMDB review bomb was so cringe and just showed how many crybabies there are in this community, I feel sorry for the actors involved in season 2, cause the immature people who attacked Laura Bailey will surely go at it again.

[@AceTheSkylord]

To everyone saying, "oh they only like this because gay", they could've had this be a story about a man and a woman and they wouldn't have needed to change a single thing

[@IntrepidHomoludens]

I only have four words to add to this emotionally rich discussion: Bill and Frank won.

[@SecondTake123]

They got to live a beautiful life ❤️

[@henrietta9206]

totally!

[@Xlcamino]

That episode was so captivating that at some point our baby cam made a "pop" sound and both me and my partner jumped. We were so in it we both forgot we had a son sleeping in the next room !

[@brandoncody7825]

I never watched Chernobyl (I'm going to catch up now tho) but this episode was probably the most beautiful episode of a TV series I've ever seen in my life. Nick Offerman and Murray Bartlett deserve and Emmy for their performance. I hope they get recognized in some way in the future

[@Onebadcajun]

Love is love. And Nick O. made it believable. This was the 2nd best gay love story I've ever seen. The first one was is Deep Space 9 -- ask Robert - it might be a good comparison to explore. Awesome show.

[@pkthe2ndhokage188]

the quality of the camera is BAD but I like the premise. decent try

[@anthonynguyen5451]

I like what you're trying to do with the camera but the quality is not good.

[@ejq2323]

this setting makes me remember show much the spoiler talks they would do at AMC years ago love it and its a great episode

[@lowkeylobo]

This camera set up took me way out of it… Cheers for trying something new but Id take the better audio and visual quality over the cool transitional stuff

[@PatrickKadian]

I like the camera set up, folks!

[@tanaman7111]

I love how the new show format has unique borders and animations, but the changes are a little fast and the lense if not quality could look better

[@SuperSaiyan005]

Hate this setup. Go back to the desk setup but get everyone involved like you have it here

[@Mistah47]

This particular setup is like a mix between a comic book, casting couch, and one of those interrogation scenes on cop shows. 😂 regardless another phenomenal episode that once again proves this why this is the greatest game to tv adaptation ever. Amazon needs to take notes before they adapt Tomb Raider and God of War.

[@samahsaadi839]

I literally said "this looks like a police interrogation" when I started watching, haha

[@BB-tt6fl]

Food for thought: The outbreak happened in 2003, over 10 yrs before Gay Marriage was legalized in the US. So, when Frank tells Bill they’re marrying each other, it was a dying wish for something that would’ve just been a fantasy for him.

[@atp8108]

Just when I thought I couldn’t cry anymore tears 😭

[@thomasduncan5522]

I like being able to see everyone at the same time! Hopefully there is a way to improve the clarity somehow too. Great discussion though.

[@The_Dave_Abides]

Great show as always. Hate the camera setup. Rob and Kris look really uncomfortable and the lighting needs a lot of work. Casual is good, however…

[@henrietta9206]

loved that point about "how everyone knows Joel's dangerous" brings me back to Marvel movie where there was a complaint how no one really felt "Gomorra was dangerous" but the movies only ever verbally brought it up/named her as "galaxy's most fierce fighter" (or something like that).. but in this show, we kinda are 'demonstrated to' who and what...and how (dangerous) Joel is.

[@damiandekker474]

That episode in Lost with the spiders is one of the most hilariously filler episodes ever. Introduce two characters we've never seen only to kill them with spiders that only show up in that one episode. At least this episode builds the world and informs and contrasts Joel's journey

[@d3l3tes00n]

Hey, Niki & Paulo literally discovered everything before the main characters.. which always killed me lol And the episode was intentional, if you didn't know. The one about Jack's tattoo is the worst filler, for me.

[@TheLittleSpoon1982]

All along they have been saying the narrative is love, the good the bad the ugly. We got to see the good with this episode and we know what comes next.

[@curiousjort845]

I think you need to work on the lighting if this setup were to stick. The video quality is lower than we are used to from this channel, but with some warmer lighting and maybe propping the camera up higher, I could see it being a really cool set! Keep up the great content guys!

[@Kingtanic]

Great show guys as always. But I gotta say, respectfully, I found the new camera a little distracting. I honestly prefer the normal setup for Studio B. Maybe different cameras set in different corners so you guys can stay in the circle conversation spots? If you guys and a lot of the audience like it, that's great, but personally it didn't really work for me.

[@johncampea]

We don't have the ability to set up cameras in the room in such a way to have us facing each other and have an organic conversation. So it's either this, or what have to just shoot it on the normal set, which I'd really rather not do.

[@Kingtanic]

@@johncampea I see, that's fair. Whatever is best for the show. Thanks for the response

[@drawnhere]

@@johncampea John, this set up is really not great. The normal set would look so much better. Please reconsider!

[@johncampea]

@@drawnhere No, this set up is great because it allows us to sit around like normal people looking at each other having a conversation about a TV show we just watched. It serves the content, and the content is the most important thing.

[@johnnyweiner746]

35:50 I never say they weren't a normal couple nor they only gay I was just saying I'm not use to seeing a scene where two men or women having a loving time together as often (until this episode which I adore.) Not that I had any problems with it, just didn't care all that much before but yes they are a couple Period. Love is love.

[@ericsietsema2044]

This was a truly beautiful episode from start to finish. Love the new camera, but the light over rob's head is a little off putting

[@yankeegrey2810]

Poor Rob. He always has lights brighter than the sun shining down on him. Or maybe it's just his aura.

[@ahorsewithnoname773]

THERE...ARE...FOUR...LIGHTS!

[@tmc8195]

This show won’t stop making me cry.

[@JordanNMovies]

49:53 great point brought up by Taylor. There’s plenty of “jackbots” as Campea put it that making something out of nothing. It’s great that the lgbt community gets representation. Just like I love the representation of Sarah and soon Riley, Henry and Sam 🙌🏽

[@isaacbeeby2528]

I can't wait till we get introduced to Henry and Sam, two of the best characters from the first game.

[@christophergongora7885]

I hope to god we have get the hand off to Tommy scene and the argument that truly cements them.

[@Henrique-wv9xq]

No way they would cut that, that's a change that would absolutely piss me off

[@nathanaelmolnar0330]

Honestly not that big of a fan of the camera set up. The quality itself is lesser than the regular cameras, and the panoramic shot at the top doesn’t really add anything

[@sumitx1921]

I love the new camera because it gives us more of a sit down conversation feel between the crew which I think works well for an aftershow discussion.

[@draconicdruid8908]

This camera work looks like an Oceans movie. Was first distracting but I love it.

[@atlasamadeus6558]

Ellie also doesn't inherently trust Joel yet...she has to have her own agency and motives..takes time to build trust

[@spencerfong1088]

thx for the show! great discussion

[@Oldelaff]

At the end of the episode, when Joel and Ellie are entering into Bill's house, why is there a shot on the door opened and slowly closed itself? It gives the feeling someone came out this door. Did you notice it?

[@SteveBonario]

Because the window was open in the bedroom , when Joel slightly opens the bedroom door the air pressure change pulled the main door closed. When you learn later that they left the window open, it reinforces the reality of these details (that the front door would close) and that Joel and Ellie don't know about the window being open so it adds a little to the mystery of what's going one (we know more than Joel and Ellie, but not everything -- it's masterful storytelling and engages us as viewers/audience).

[@mrpogi1295]

It was a great episode! Pivotal moment for Joel & Ellie’s relationship I appreciate y’all trying new things for the channel. If you’re going back to this set up, I think the camera should be set up higher and look down on the crew. Better quality would be good too. Like that y’all are able to see & talk to each other in this style😁

[@jay83]

It's a complete joke people call this a filler episode.. No people its the complete opposite! had they adapted the game story version now That would have been a filler episode with action no substance, they made Bill a better and bigger character than he was from the game and I'm all for it.. The lesson that Joel takes from Bill makes more sense this way,

[@d3l3tes00n]

@@misterFutile No lol

[@damiandekker474]

I was 100% convinced Bill was somehow gonna survive lol

[@cjrebirth]

57:35 I know exactly what moment Kris is talking about

[@TheTeleworker]

I think the episode was really well done. I loved getting more backstory for bill and really allowing his character to shine. However, the only issue I had with it was that while what we got was really good, it sacrificed everything we love about bill from the game. No more arguing with Joel and Ellie, no more awesome adventure to get the battery for the truck. His entire impact on their journey is reduced to a single note that is read by Ellie. A powerful and meaningful scene, yes. But that erased all the other moments we loved about him. I was super pumped when Nick Offerman was cast, and his acting was phenomenal, but I can't help but see this as both great and wasted potential. I wanted to see his best moments from the game, as well as his backstory. Removing him from Ellie's journey felt unnecessary and forced in my opinion. I still liked the episode as a whole, but for some reason I just can't get right with that one single choice.

[@dustinhawks7571]

Looks like it was filmed on a smart phone from 10 years ago.

[@Billix33]

This episode makes me think you should do the "That's 70s show" style circle next !

[@henrietta9206]

I'd love that!

[@derrickderita7521]

Not loving the camera quality or the FUM sponsorship on this one

[@NeeRock]

Better Bros movie than the Movie Bros

[@ThePiggiestOne]

"The Economy of Storytelling." You all should really respect BOB!

[@TheStockportHatter1986]

Just shows even in apocolypse we all want human connection this is why these homophobes don't like watching this on "their show" it's 2023 not everything is all action, drama we all need love even if you're in the LGBTQ+ community

[@ketchuponeggs1149]

Holy smokes that panorama

[@GoDDmTV]

I love y’all but this camera set up ain’t it. Otherwise great show guys!

[@ashleybree1407]

I JUST watched this episode and I get why people review bombed it HOWEVER it wasn’t ok I loved all the clips of their relationship and how it progressed and it was just beautiful I loved it the end was SO sad… in the beginning of the episode I was like how would a person alone be able to find purpose and a will to live a life and then he had frank and he became his purpose the end was so sad but I do think that Ellie becomes Joel’s purpose to live and keep going and we will see what happens… I cannot wait to watch more 😭 beautiful episode I asked my brother who is homophobic if frank was a woman would he have loved this episode and he said yes so I really think that this was brilliantly made the ONLY reason people hate it is cause it was a gay relationship which is horrible…. They did it in a tasteful way The baby scene KILLED me… it was horrible

[@d3l3tes00n]

People still can't handle gay people existing for some reason.

[@Magdalena8008s]

Daily listener here John. Just wanted to say this setup doesn't do it for me. I get trying new things. I get it. But I know Taylor and others browse chats. Just wanted to give my opinion. Granted it's not asked for. Ha. And, this episode was incredible to me. It's up there with some of my favorite episodes of Mr. Robot. And I struggle to find anything that does what Mr. Robot did for me. If you know you know. Ha. Not gay. So don't want to speak for anyone. But Frank is, in my opinion a great depiction of what I think alot of men these days are dealing with. They are in a box and will take the end of the world for them to accept who they are. And that breaks my heart.

[@locket5279]

What an amazing episode. What a beautiful love story. I'm sad the people who can't see past two gay men didn't get to feel the range of emotions we(I) did. I'm tearing up thinking about their first dinner and the piano scene... and the song that plays at the end in the car.

[@factualopinion4275]

My reason for this being a 8/10 episode is I feel like it's a mistake not to have bill part of the main cast & join Joel & ellie on their trip. It's insane especially after seeing how good & well written bill was

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

As I see that is, that Bill would have lost his purpose in life and would have been a crying, destroyed, grief-ridden, nihilist. He would have been in an awful state. I think the ending was beautiful and loving and something that us who have lost can recognize completely. His choice was his and it was the way he wanted to leave with Frank. Paying attention to things, is how we show love. Without Frank there won't be anything to pay attention to.

[@pewp325]

One of the best television episodes I've ever seen.

[@ludwigreyes3719]

Love the discussion. However, rob and kris look like they’re sitting on folding chairs. Get em better chairs please!

[@xda_ragerx7179]

this video quality and camera angles are a weird vibe. hard to get into.

[@damiandekker474]

Reckon we gonna see any giraffes?...

[@stevangonzalez5908]

That moment is too important to not have in it. They did play the music from that giraffe scene from the game in the Bill episode though

[@jakobnagel2672]

I want the same music too

[@derelict06]

I’m not crying, you’re crying

[@Mugabz13]

Fine, since everyone else is focusing on how great this episode is I'll ask the annoying, myopic question no should care about... where did Bill actually get that scanner device he used to test Frank?? I immediately thought, "Oh, obviously Joel smuggled one out of the QZ for him..." but since Bill was using it on Frank, that means he hadn't met Joel and Tess yet 😁 Insignificant I know, but I am left wondering.

[@ahorsewithnoname773]

Bill went out a bit to scavenge so it is always possible he came across one on some dead soldier / cop / medic that had one on their corpse.

[@skg6829]

Next video just keep the wide shot and a bigger couch or better seats for the rest of the crew Other than that great video

[@Delli88Burn1]

As some one who doesn't play the games. I didn't expect this treatment for ep3. To be honest I was going along traditional troupes. Thinking it would go badly during the scene where Bill meets Frank. Especially the way it was framed during the earlier scenes(think strangulation, or backstabbing, other Walking Dead surprises). But when it didn't happen, what a breath of fresh air. Amazing episode, watched it a second time. On a side note, interesting camera setup, but not a fan of the resolution/quality and Kris and Rob's sitting posture, looks slightly uncomfortable(but understand the limitation). Would be funny if John could pull off the 'Friends' couch setup.

[@Flyrudo]

Great aftershow episode but the camera movement and quality, Not a fan.

[@JacksonTheDabber]

Love the new camera

[@BenjiYag]

This episode was absolutely fucking amazing yes I would of liked to see bill interact will Ellie and Joel like the games however I can sit here and say I fucking loved that episode and even tho upset I didn't get to see that I'm very ok with what we got and doesn't improve or takeaway from the games was just perfect for the shows trajectory and the road it's going on separate to the games and the change was very applicable for the show. I loved it I was emotional in every moment really enjoyed this one. Also this is a prime example of just because you played the game and the show is "spoiled" already. This whole episode shows that it doesn't matter and you can expect anything to change and grow and even be better. Maybe hinting at a big change for part 2 who knows a little longer with a certain character wouldn't be out of question at this point I have high high hopes for season 2 now Bill and Frank's purpose in the show to me is supposed to be a mirror for Joel and Ellie bill Is a survivor but also finds someone to protect and live for. Joel in a similar fashion had Tess who now is dead and sacrificed herself to save someone and potentially have a cure for humanity. Joel needs to find his person again to survive for in ellie. Bill in the game was an example for Joel on how not to go on living just seeing Ellie as a job but here in the show it's an example of how he should live and survive and how bill and Joel are alike and how he needs to find what bill had with Frank in Ellie because he doesn't have Tess anymore and has experienced so much loss in his life that he has become a broken man a man who is lost and this is the true journey of the last of us that's the beauty of it. It's not a zombie story it's a story of humanity in its light and dark moments Joel being the dark and Ellie the light surviving having hope for something more than surviving and I love that this show is expanding that and bringing us these beautiful human moments. Also fuck people who are complaining that there gay has nothing to do with it. Was a love story and was done amazing.

[@boristheblade4833]

This is like the Knights of the Round Table..... 😀

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

With all this I am going make make myself poorer and get a Playstation. I have wanted to play the game for a long time but now it's going to happen. It looks so good.

[@DementedCaver]

I hear that it also comes to the PC on March 3rd....finally.

[@Yic17Studio]

This episode was some Oscar worthy stuff. Regarding game adaptations, here's the issue ... we don't have many examples of adaptations that stay true to the source material. They often create entirely new storylines, disregarding what made the game successful in the first place. Examples include Assassin's Creed, WarCraft, Resident Evil, Uncharted, etc. All of them feature completely new stories, not taken from the games. While deviating from the source and writing original material can work (e.g. Arcane / TLOU Episode 3), it doesn't always pan out. The Last of Us is one of the rare game adaptations that stays faithful to the game's story and characters (with the exception of Episode 3, which is mostly new material). I believe it would be smarter for studios to adapt what works and build upon that, instead of constantly starting from scratch. Currently, there isn't enough evidence to argue that staying close to the source material won't be successful because there just aren't enough examples.

[@baertheblader9402]

On its own it was a great episode. It was very well written and acted. Still, it does feel a bit like filler, because it seems like nothing we saw is going to matter going forward. If Bill was going to be a reoccurring character, then I would understand how understanding his backstory would be important in explaining the decisions he is making that affects the main characters, but since no living character saw what we saw, it seems unimportant to the main story. Joel could have just found the letter, took the supplies, and left, and the story would not have changed a bit.

[@Kreence]

What he wrote on the letter is the key here. Cause what bill said in the end of the letter ends up the driving factor of joels final decision. Now I understand for new commers to the show it may seems filler. But those final words in the letter will tie in in the ending. What episode 3 did, is show us love The general meaning of love and the fear of a possibility of losing that certain love. Cause keep in mind that joel is a heartless character in those past 20 years.

[@ashwilliams9395]

shows why media literacy needs to be a thing. Bill’s story is thematically tied to Joel (because they’re similar people) and gives reasoning/context to the entirety of Joel’s growth as a character, and the decision he eventually makes. They spell it out for you at the end of the episode and people STILL missed the point

[@baertheblader9402]

@@ashwilliams9395 ok, but didn’t he already decide to take care of Ellie? Tess accomplished that. Just my opinion. I never played the games, so I don’t know if it eventually comes back around and ties in. For me in this moment I am very invested in Joel and Ellie and whether they will make it to the Fireflies. So this episode slowed down that progress for me. I hope it eventually ties in, I just wish they kept Bill alive so this time I invested in caring about him would have a point beyond this one episode.

[@GinoGonzalez12]

This episode was no longer filler when Joel got the letter. That letter gives Joel purpose again.

[@djstevie69]

As much as I love ya, and I will look past it. Fum is NOT a positive sponsor for you at all.

[@ThePalmer81]

My main complaint on episode 3 is that I felt like it came to early. I don't feel like we have established enough of everything else. And I say this not to bash gay people. I have no problem with gay people. But beard on beard kissing made me wince...lol

[@d3l3tes00n]

As a lesbian who has tried kissing men before... I have no idea how straight women enjoy that lol

[@dripy_fps9622]

Bro using 3 androids as the cameras

[@Calvin-zy6vh]

representation matters

[@TrueSamuraiHero]

Last of us. My episode rating EP1 9/10 EP2 8/10 EP3 6/10 EP1 One of the best pilot of TV history and the Flashback was emotional and flowed perfectly. Negative The explanation of how the virus is spread. EP2 Really good world building, intense scenes, and the Flashback was really well acted and flowed well with the world building. Negative A character dying ( I don’t like characters that I like dying 😂) EP3z Well Writing and Directed Love Story. Negative a love story that didn’t have anything to do with Joel or Ellie or there mission. 80%-90% of the episode was a filler. If someone missed the episode all you have to say is “Ellie kills a clicker that couldn’t move, Ellie has a gun, and they have a truck”.

[@SecondTake123]

Completely missed the point unfortunately, it showed the humanity still left in the post apocalyptic world. So important because I'm imagining things get more bleak as wet go on.

[@TrueSamuraiHero]

@@SecondTake123 they could’ve done that in 15 minutes

[@augustmd9382]

@@TrueSamuraiHero i think you need to add "Joel reads a letter from Bill hearing what he needs to hear so he can be motivated to protect Ellie". Thats why i like this episode. The filler adds context to the letter so it adds more impact to the audience. .

[@MicolasCage]

May I express something without getting banned? I just want to speak candidly and say: John, I agree 10000% when you say that when there’s a movie/show/wtvr with a race swap, if it ends up bad it’s not because the race swap - *OF COURSE that’s true.* And of course there are some bigots out there. But IMHO, just like when something is bad it’s not BECAUSE of the race swap, similarly if someone doesn’t like a movie it doesn’t mean they dislike it BECAUSE of the race swap. I feel like there have been times where you gave off a vibe like “people who didn’t like X movie/show are bigoted basement-dwelling whatever.” Just cuz there’s a race swap doesn’t mean a movie is bad, but simultaneously just cuz someone doesn’t like a movie doesn’t mean they dislike it BECAUSE OF the race swap. Do u get what I’m saying? (I’m really not saying anything contentious or controversial here. Yet I’ve noticed that a giant number of KZbinrs will straight up hide people from their channel just for the slightest push back, so now I’m all paranoid that I’m gonna get banned for even the slightest feedback lol 😰😰😰)

[@johncampea]

That’s never happened. I am always very clear about that. Saying “I feel like you give off a vibe” is laughable because it doesn’t require any proof. I can explicitly say something clearly… but if you say “I feel like you give off a vibe” it’s a cop out.

[@MicolasCage]

@@johncampea I’ve watched hundreds of your shows, so I don’t remember specific examples off the top of my head. It’s just what I remember feeling a couple times when you were (rightfully) going off about “knuckle draggers.” THAT SAID, you talked about some such issue a week or so ago (see, I already can’t remember specifics 😅. TLOU review bomb maybe?) and you made it *abundantly* clear that there are people who legitimately criticize something sincerely, and you very clearly distinguished between those people vs bigots. I really really appreciated that; that was awesome. (The narcissist in me wants to believe that my comment had it fresh in your mind 😇). Either way, it’s cool as hell of you that u replied to my comment and didn’t just shadow ban. Thx dude. You’re good peoples Campea.

[@MicolasCage]

I loved the episode. It made me cry. I can’t remember any media making me cry since Red Dead 2. That said, I really don’t like the show’s version of Ellie. It’s probably not Bella’s fault - it’s probably how they wrote her. I don’t like that she’s so bitchy and sarcastic. She’s not like that in the game. Perhaps a tiny bit, but in the game* she’s cuter and more endearing and sweet. She walks around whistling and is constantly amused and she tries to connect with Joel.

[@josephmora5230]

It was Brokeback Mountain set in a zombie apocalypse.

[@LazerTron1974]

The plot of this is not at all similar to Brokeback Mountain.

[@damiandekker474]

They would have needed to cast a much more generic looking actress if they were planning to recast for S2

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

How come?

[@TheCountMosquito]

I’m very torn with this show now. All three episodes have been terrific but after the third episode I just feel let down. The first episode removed the shootout between Joel and Tess and Robert and his men at the docks. The second episode cut out the scenes in the office building. Nearly every single action and suspense scene has been removed. By the time the third episode ends we’ve skipped the subway scene, the refrigerator scene, and the high school scene. There is just so much that’s been removed. Story is more important than anything else. When you have a good story you can forgive everything else, but I’m sad cause all these amazing suspenseful scenes I was looking forward to are just all gone, every single one.

[@SecondTake123]

Just be patient! I think in the end this show will satisfy the Game players.

[@atp8108]

I think if the show were to include all the action scenes from the games the violence and action would become repetitive and boring really quickly. Those segments are fun to play in the game but in a tv show it would just slow down the plot and make for repetitive television.

[@Stephen-yw9sn]

Yeah, I agree. They should have kept the upside down scene but with just 2 clickers and Ellie throwing bottles to distract them while she cuts the rope. But Joel falling to the ground attracts them to him. He kills one and then runs out of bullets. Thats when Bill shows up with a sword to rescue them.

[@TheStockportHatter1986]

I saw many homophobes are hating this episode because of some man on man love, I loved the backstory for Bill but shame we didn't have any interaction between Bill and Ellie but I loved either way bring on episode 4 and beyond

[@Skdot00]

Or the episode just wasted too much time on 2 men rubbing each other beards on bed for half of the episode..

[@alexmartinez9097]

I'm gay and I didn't enjoy this episode. I honestly don't understand why so many people are saying they cried over this episode.

[@vshazam]

@@alexmartinez9097 the important bit is: "because of some man on man love" everyone who dislikes the episode isn't a homophobe. It's those who dislike it because they hate gay people or have an issue with the fundamental concept of a gay love story. There are unfortunately many of those people.

[@benjiebarker]

This was the worst episode to watch reaction videos…i freakin cried all day…i’m tired man lol