The Last Of Us Episode 5 Aftershow

[@MavenCree]

I LOVED that during the shootout, Joel and Ellie were communicating just by glances. He shoots the clicker on the car, which tells Ellie, Joel is watching (cause she can't see him). Before she runs for the truck window, she looks up to the house then back to the truck, and Joel knows where she's going. And lastly, she looks to where Henry and Sam are, looks up to the house, and he knows she's going after them. He's not happy about it, but he clears the way.

[@bigolomofe415]

That was pretty dope

[@egalart]

Also Henry was absolutely the mvp of this episode. Just to add on to what John said about Henry’s last moments, remember Henry said he has NEVER shot or killed anyone by hand. In that moment the first person he had to kill was his own brother. That’s even more tragic.

[@egalart]

@@sheikgeek9150 in that one comment you both missed so much context and reiterated what I said about him not actually having to kill someone lol. He felt guilty party not violent killer. And he absolutely in his own actions felt like he killed his brother not an infected. “What did I do?” That’s a statement of knowing I killed an infected but more than that he was my brother. I don’t understand what was the issue with what I said?

[@bigolomofe415]

Sam was my MVP. "if you turn into a monster, is it still you inside?", followed by his mature reveal of the bite, blew me away. He expressed such subtle emotions in all his scenes esp cuz he can't talk. Whoo... That episode slapped. but yh I get why you'd pick Henry too lol... I've got so much to say about this episode. But I don't like to type so I'll end with Craig Mazin is a-Mazin with his writing 🙌🏾, haven't seen Chernobyl but now I HAVE to.

[@Jimmie_Rudolfsson]

If this show has four more really good/amazing episodes it will be one of the greatest seasons of "television" ever in the same breath as Breaking Bad, GOT and others

[@MagicalMaddy94]

The attention to detail in this show is absolutely amazing! It has the incredible rewatchable quality, I find myself going back and rewatching episodes in anticipation for next week and seeing what I can pick up that I may have missed the first time. This show is rich with details! Kathleen getting taken out by a child clicker of all things was an incredible touch. And like what was mentioned, it doesn't hit you over the head and isn't obvious, but you can see Joel slowly changing as the show progresses. A lot of care and attention is put into each scene, and I deeply appreciate it as a viewer.

[@MrRock0002]

This episode was amazing, Sam having Asl was different but emotionally stable. Henry playing his role was great, and the gang of infected was great the bloater was good to see.

[@zshakur]

Ellie also knew it probably wasn't going to work but she wanted to try SOMETHING to save the life of her new (and only) friend.

[@Shiggy8]

I was emotionally demolished over the weekend 😂 this episode did make me sad (although I’ve played the game and knew where it was going, the impact was still there). Then I finished watching Gurren Lagann which I binged over the week, and the ending made me cry 8 times throughout Saturday 😂😭 (Gurren Lagann is officially the piece of media that’s had the most impact on me emotionally 😂). It was a weekend of tears for me, 30% of them was for Last of Us, the other 70% was for Gurren Lagann 😅😭

[@Cjones1375]

On the podcast they said part of Sam was there. He was sitting with his back turned and not doing anything because he could not hear. That's why he only reacted when he physically saw Ellie and not when she spoke.

[@MavenCree]

Take a shot everytime John says, "I was just saying that!"

[@damiandekker474]

TLOU isn't 90% shooting people, it's 90% carrying planks and ladders around 😅

[@Jenn_if_er]

John, I know you’re a good Canadian kid. But, Kansas City is in Missouri. 😂

[@DanClancyPatterson98]

To play Devil’s advocate, there is also a Kansas City, Kansas😂

[@Jenn_if_er]

@@DanClancyPatterson98 But, none of the major attractions or what Kansas City is known for. Chiefs, Royals, Downtown, The Plaza, Union Station, Worlds of Fun, KCI (International Airport) etc. are all in Missouri. I know the show was filmed with the actors in Canada. But, film crews shot part of the 2 KC episodes in Kansas City, Missouri. Devil’s advocate here: there is a Mexico City, Missouri. It’s still Missouri, not Mexico.

[@ChildishGambeaner]

You're lying

[@taylorbrenn7191]

As a resident of KC on the Kansas side, all the landmarks in the show were in Missouri.

[@jobnieloliva5358]

Henry was the mvp. The most heartbreaking acting I’ve seen in a while

[@obijuan4782]

There's a few notes that you pick up in the game that explain what happens to the community underground they found

[@dustfan]

41:10 It's actually Tommy that's the combat veteran, Joel even confirmed it in the car ride in ep 4. Joel also tells Ellie that missing shots happens more than you think and it took him like 5 or 6 shots to finally get the driver of the battering ram truck. He was also missing quite a few shots against the infected although when it was really needed he didn't miss.

[@TheGistWithJared]

Absolutely incredible show! It’s astonishing how they keep leveling up every episode! Henry & Sam displayed tremendous performances! Love the After Show crew!🙌🙌🙌

[@MavenCree]

You ASSUME that Kathleen was a good person before her brother's death. You don't know that. For all you know, her brother was the one keeping her evil down.

[@Chris_Sherwood]

She was also really good in an arc on The Shield... she makes an incredible turn on that show and her last scene with Dutch? Amazing & powerful stuff... she's got some serious acting chops in her.

[@TheGeneralGrievous19]

❤ "The pain I feel now is the happiness I had before. That's the deal." ~ C.S. Lewis 💔

[@TheDarkKenpachi]

You see when watching the show I never meet Kathleen's brother or see how she changed so I can't really be that engaged in her vendetta as I am with Henry wanting to protect Sam. So her story with the hunters felt unnecessary to me. I don't know if they were limited on which episodes could be beyond an hour long but I really felt if they could have inserted another flashback that showed Kathleen's relationship with her brother and how the KC QZ was before he died, then this would have hit harder.

[@ricomorehouse7704]

46:57 John and Rob has nailed it with that comment

[@elsacristina9]

The kid who plays Sam is deaf in real life for your information

[@MatthewJohnson-cj1bf]

oh my, your whole thing about consequences, reminds me of a line from Last of us part 2, "I want what you want, but not at any cost". Love that character, can't wait for season 2.

[@SneaksBL]

The Kathleen character did absolutely nothing for me, but everyone else were great. Especially the casting of Sam & Henry

[@dankrhythm9344]

Yea

[@Magdalena8008s]

She did it for me. I think I get some of people's criticism of her character but what some seem to dislike, is why I like it. First, she's a hell of an actress. What she's doing in Yellowjackets right now is spectacular. Anywho, point is Ioved her character. Not my favorite but damn good.

[@MrRock0002]

She had a sad story too

[@TheAsheron]

At least they have character. Even if it’s not the best or do anything for you and me, it’s something more than nothing compared to the game countless endless nameless enemies

[@craigo5030]

@@Magdalena8008s agreed, people have called her annoying and pointless, let’s just ignore what she was asked to do shall we, the character was created with her performance in mind, her performance was far better than a generic army guy

[@cjrebirth]

This show keeps getting better and better... and this Sunday's gonna be a BIG one as we head into the winter section of the game

[@jerrypinkard1218]

The lack of gratuitous violence is notable. Usually happens offscreen, and otherwise without a lot of blood and gore when this series could have easily been scene after scene of Joel and Ellie slaughtering their way through Infected and groups of bandits to reach their objectives. I'm thoroughly impressed every week.

[@TheFilmFanEsco]

This show is incredibly powerful! It’s done with so much care, and written directed with excellence.

[@exodore2000]

It really bugged me you kept saying Kansas, we just had a superbowl with Kansas City from Missouri. Also the ant disease that this is based on leaves the host fully aware so yes they are still in there. Lastly I loved the foreshadowing with the daycare and the child clicker.

[@bigolomofe415]

I don't think the fungi leaves insects fully aware. I'm not a mycologist but it seems the ants basically stop functioning as part of the colony, wander off, get lockjaw n die when the fungi feeds on their insides. But it takes much longer in nature than is portrayed in LOU.

[@Roman-tu3vh]

As far as i am understanding, in next episode Bella and Pedro both will have their own Luthen in ep 10 of Andor moment in the same scene.

[@toddwarring9782]

I’m beginning to think the plot of the show is that the main characters are angels of death since everybody they come in contact with dies either that same episode or the next. This reminds me of The OC where they went through 7 years worth of plot points in one season!

[@EnzoTheBaker]

0:17 Is Rob imitating an anime girl greeting? lol

[@Chris_Sherwood]

😆 I think he was doing Infected/Clicker but yeah, that works too... Lmao

[@caiuscosades362]

Looking back, I can see Joel knew Henry was only a danger to himself in that moment because Joel has been there.

[@caiuscosades362]

@@sheikgeek9150 I think Henry was adamant in his intention to kill himself, pointing the gun at Joel was only a measure to keep Joel from stopping him.

[@Julie111110]

Great episode

[@bradhend]

Bella Ramsey was my mvp of the episode.

[@jobnieloliva5358]

No

[@SaintBiggums]

Best episode by far, and it's astonishing they keep upping themselves. Bill, Frank, Sam, Henry...Kathleen, that psycho (in a good I fucking hate you character way), everyone is just knocking it out of the park. As someone who's watched a playthrough, I'm eagerly waiting for other characters just based on the performances we've gotten thus far. And funny Rob brought up Black Adam and the kid - I just got around to watching it. When the movie got to the part where the kid was skateboarding through the market with the music playing...I instantly sighed and knew what movie I was getting. A 15 years too late one. And to my disappointment I was right. At least I got to see Hawkman and Dr Fate.

[@TheInedibleHulk]

As someone who hasn't ever played the games, I still don't have a clear picture as to what "FEDRA" is. Is it an emergency government set up in place of the US gov? Is it a worldwide response organization? Is it a branch of the US government that is still operating in some areas? From all we've seen onscreen so far, it looks as if they are succeeding in keeping people safe in the Quarantine Zones.

[@elykphant1910]

FEDRA is a fictionalized version of FEMA.

[@DaDuck981]

What Elykphant said. They’re a federal disaster relief agency that used the outbreak to seize absolute power and essentially became a fascist government. At this point in the show/game, FEDRA rules their own QZ zones as each zone sees fit.

[@ccgear4367]

16:00 Yeah, she is just a kid and she has probably been dwelling on taking action/using her blood (teenage logic) in that situation again ever since what happened at the mall. Which they will probably show next episode.

[@ejturner530]

Re16:17 Comment: I think Ellie knows that the blood pat won't fix him. She is just trying to comfort him in his last night of humanity.

[@ricomorehouse7704]

And Henry first act of violence was his own brother 😢🙏🏾

[@Edrodperx]

My 11 year old brother and I freaking cheered when kathleen got shit messed up 😂

[@JayPatrol]

Is it better than Andor? 😊

[@Jimmie_Rudolfsson]

Without a doubt.

[@trevorcarlisle5447]

Yes

[@SirBillyDorseyJr]

Yes. And I love Andor.

[@Magdalena8008s]

Comment mostly for the algorithm. But in regards to the episode. It was spectacular. Simple as that.

[@kkjhn41]

Even though Kathleen ordered the execution of the collaborators we tend to ignore the real person who is responsible for their deaths, the collaborators themselves. They chose for various reasons to cooperate with FEDRA and turn in neighbors and friends. We already saw how the people were torturing and slaughtering FEDRA soldiers. If Kathleen set them free, they would have been killed by the people anyway in ways worse than being shot. This is what happens after every revolution in history. Consequences follow every character in the show. By trying to save his brother Henry made the change from Michael to Kathleen leading the resistance which ultimately led to everything that happened after that including the situation that resulted in Sam being bitten. In the end everyone, despite all their struggles, plans, and efforts, Henry, Sam, Michael, Kathleen, Perry, Anthony, FEDRA, the collaborators, the resistance, the people of KC who were caught between the two groups, absolutely everyone are dead. Only Joel and Ellie are left to know what happened or that any of these people even existed. We have to keep in mind what Neil Druckman says he was trying to make us think about with the story of TLOU, that love, especially love for a child can be dangerous and destructive.

[@adamh8876]

What an awful take. The people responsible for FEDRA murders were FEDRA people. The people responsible for Kathleen’s murders were Kathleen and her people.

[@ditoradityay.1377]

No disrespect to Superbowl, would TLOU have put up a fair fight if it wasn't moved. The show is a juggernaut overseas.

[@ArchThaBoss]

It literally wouldn’t have even been close. The last of of would be lucky if they pulled in 1/10 of the numbers the super bowl did. I love the show and would chose it over the Super Bowl anyday but we have to be realistic. This years Super Bowl was the 3rd biggest television program of all time

[@ericsietsema2044]

Is Kris Carr no longer on the show? Noticed normal show doesn't have fans asking questions anymore, or have seen her?

[@knuckles2591]

She was sick for a few days. She's still on the show.

[@patricklee8314]

Rob you are killing me with your infected schtick!

[@CeeLoModernBachatero]

The actress that plays Kathleen is great at acting..... her acting isn't what puts me off about the character. It's that I understood that they put her there specifically for that contrast between soccer mom and assassin but they never show her committing a vile enough act that should make me believe she's capable of it. Again, the back story is well written and the acting is great on her end...... but when you have the 2 opposite sides of a spectrum (soccer mom vs. Assassin) you want to see an actual visual image of her applying violence to the highest degree. Her shooting the doctor without them showing it, or her telling ppl to do the dirty work like when she told them to kill the collaborators wasnt enough for me. Something that I think should've suffice was if they showed her strangling the doctor, who helped deliver her, with her bare hands after she smashed his hands with a hammer and you saw blood landing on her stone cold emotionless face. It needed to be that dark and extreme to make the public believe that this soccer mom was capable of such acts.

[@CeeLoModernBachatero]

@Sheik Geek I agree with everything you said except worst episode..... I think everything around the Kathleen character very well done tbh lol

[@egalart]

I think the only thing that would have made Kathleen work for me is when she was telling her backstory about her brother, the other dude tells her to give up the hunt for Henry and pushed back more. Tells Kathleen he has respect for her but she is ignoring the problem of the infected has not been cleared out underground and is coming through. She “agrees” and when he turns his back to walk out she shoots him and wastes everything for nothing. The bloater should have killed her. While the child clicker bites Sam. BUT I’m just rewriting at this point.

[@bigolomofe415]

I wanna agree... But nah... I think most people who've been oppressed for about 2 decades would follow whoever freed them, probably to the death. Esp soldier types. A more introspective character may have pushed back against Kathleen's agenda, but not that soldier dude. Like the one who shot Sarah... They may not wanna do it, but they follow orders most of the time.

[@factualopinion4275]

I know their deaths is in the game but I'm starting to get annoyed with the show introducing a new character & then killing them in the first episode

[@grumpyrock]

Well… I’m sorry but they’re going to do it at least 1 more time with Ellie’s friend. (Who’s name escapes me at this time)

[@byronkennedy7203]

Lady on another channel (that I won't name) actually cried reviewing this episode.

[@ChildishGambeaner]

Who

[@kasenculler7552]

GR😂

[@ChildishGambeaner]

@@kasenculler7552 wack

[@kevin4569]

Do you reimburse the money of off-topic superchats? They are annoying, but they should get money back imo

[@markwatkins4825]

Not trying to speak for the show but I think the short answer is… no

[@Antec76]

I disagree, if you really don’t understand by the title of the video that this is purely a “Last of us” only conversation, you’re a bit of an idiot and deserve to give up that money as punishment 😂

[@tempershot6311]

Realistically wouldn't everyone be skinny in an apocalypse?

[@drewj8874]

Kathleen was a great character with great lines but the woman who played Kathleen was horrible IMO. I do not buy that anyone would follow her, I surly would not! She was an idiot and blind to the more serious threat rumbling under the city. A true leader would recognize the greater threat, just as her sidekick did. Very glad she is done and has been killed off. Again, I love the concept of her character, I just think the actor portrayed her poorly

[@SaintBiggums]

Wouldn't any actor play her the way her character was written? Weird to say "I love the concept of her character, but the actor was bad", when it's literally the concept of her character you take issue with. Her character has those character flaws, not the acress lol.

[@damiandekker474]

The writing is great, but it still has nothing on Andor!

[@afanofpeanuts7381]

False