The Last of Us Episode 9 | Look for the Light | REACTION

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

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[@VanessaTJ]

“I don’t hate him, but I hate what he did” I agree :): Season 2 and 3 are going to be challenging I think.

[@SandraMorris51]

What a tough one to watch. I don’t know what I would do in his shoes knowing the operation would kill her and it might not even work. He’d come so far with Ellie but in the end he was trying to save her AND Sarah all over again. You could see in his eyes how conflicted he was in the truck. The game ended exactly the same and I’m so happy they left the giraffe scene in.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

For me what hurt the most is when Marlene almost convinced him, and he looked at Ellie then slowly back at Marlene. He just couldn’t do it. It’s particularly tough because our hearts could be with what Joel did but our minds are undeniably against it. And the real gutpunch is that even after all that moral sacrifice, Ellie is growing more and more distant from Joel, which adds to the guilt and adds a depressing sense of pointlessness to his decision. (Sigh) sad indeed.

[@stevemcgowen]

@@myegyptiandadreacts4824 Would a cure save this world, or even be possible? Look at how many 1000's of people it took to make a distribute a covi vaccine- with large companies and 10's of 1000's of people. . How would Fireflies distribute a cure if they had one? As soon as they would come across raiders or cultists they would be killed. These groups rely on fear of infected to stay in power. Even past that, how many would even trust the cure? Look at how many don't even trust a covi cure. A cure in TLOU is a pipe dream and wouldn't save the world. People are the problem, not infected...

[@RobTheWatcher]

The number of people who have not played the game, watched this show and clapped when the screen turned black and the music comes up is astonishing. I did that ten years ago when I played the game for the first time. Now people have the very same reaction watching the show. Masterpiece. God bless your Dad!

[@Nobodyimportantanywayy]

The pregnant woman at the start is the voice actor for Ellie in the game and the right hand man for James in episode 8 is joels voice actor. cool trivia that many wont know.

[@TheThirdPew]

you two had some great reactions to this series, I loved to watch these videos. glad you noticed how the chemistry is ruined in their relationship in the end, somehow a lot of gamers viewed that as a happy ending cause they were still together lol.

[@TheThirdPew]

in my opinion Joel made the only decision he could have but it was still selfish, especially lying to Ellie you can see how it hurts her.

[@charlesbarnes6912]

Love y'alls reactions helps me think about all the good times I had with my dad before he passed...so thank you both gentlemen!

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

Our pleasure to have you with us dear Charles! 💕 and we’re very sorry for your loss

[@LovedByYou]

Your dad is right in the beginning, when he said “that’s why she’s immune”. Her mom cut the cord quickly after she got bit which would’ve meant she grew immunity to the virus as a baby.

[@Jadbgjoka]

You guys are so chill and insightful. My favorite kind of humans.

[@dbastos]

Great reaction, thank you guys! Hugs from Brazil!

[@israelbrn]

I think you're the first person I've seen so far these last couple of days who had the same feelings about this ending as me. Such a dark and tragic episode. "The chemistry is dying".

[@shayy1724]

Exactly! I felt that the ending was very dark and sad. It makes you look at Joel in a different light, but also you know that you probably would have done the same thing.

[@Sindrijo]

The disassociated Joel roaming the hospital, callously executing everyone in his way was really sad, depressing and scary. To him the people he was killing were nothing more than mere obstacles, but at the same time he's relatable, he's scary because he is the 'human monster set free' that resides within us all.

[@mayne5206]

Love your reactions and take on this episode. Spot on what I have felt when watching it.

[@BourneFreeATL]

Nice reaction, fellas. Whole season. Thx

[@ThomasThePanzerTank]

I will always say if they gave Joel the ability to say goodbye after doing so much for Ellie, I think this would’ve played out differently. If Ellie knew what she was sacrificing and was able to tell Joel this is what she wanted 1000% then maybe he would’ve accepted her fate. Knowing Joel and how much Ellie means to him, it’s not guaranteed that would work BUT after losing his daughter I doubt he wants Ellie taken from him without warning.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

That I can agree with.

[@felicia3924]

Right? Marlene saying "what would Ellie do? She would sacrifice herself and we both know it" to Joel in that parking garage AND "Joel Ellie does not know anything, we put her under, she doesnt have to know she's about to die" when Joel woke up... Like Marlene which is it? If you are sure Ellie would pick the cure/death, then why dont you allow her to say goodbye to Joel and the choice?

[@Sindrijo]

@@felicia3924 neither Marlene nor Joel would have wanted to leave it up to chance, neither side would be likely to accept Ellies choice if it were not their preference. For the Fireflies the stakes are just too high, from their perspective they have no real choice if they really believe it can be a cure. Joel is on the other side, he's a broken man that cannot bare to loose another daughter. He's a pessimist when it comes to the question of there being a chance of a cure, the only thing that keeps him going is his relationship with Ellie, so for him it's not really a choice either.

[@jasperfish666]

The man who was going to operate on Ellie was not a doctor, he was a botanist. He was going to harvest her brain and cut it up but it was a wild gamble and was not a definite cure. I hope that this eases your minds 😇

[@shotbyfabi]

You guys were my favorite reactors to the show. Thank you guys.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

It’s been a fine journey. Thank you for the kind words! We shall meet again! :)

[@barbopanda4819]

love this dead reacts, ciao from Italy

[@Vlad.Larionov]

It will be interesting to see your reaction to the films "Robocop" and "Robocop 3". This is a cool immortal classic 👍

[@NADGEN]

I don't hate him or what he did. I strongly suspect that most if not all humans would make his choice. Would you choose to give up the one person you love and care for for the rest of humanity? And if you did, would that be inhuman? Would it be inhuman to make a cold calculation and not act upon human emotions? It is interesting and honestly it is one of my favourite stories. Good stoof. :)

[@danielblake5520]

love the reaction guys, A bit of topic but id love to see yous watch DISTRICT 9

[@Cornberry]

Haha thanks for the reactions, you two are great! Maybe see you with some other shows 😊

[@yutgorpotungyun]

Wonderful reactions. Wonder if you guys might react to midnight mass

[@gailseatonhumbert]

Neill Druckmann asked the play testers if Joel made the right choice - without kids 50-50 with kids 100% Yes I do adamantly agree with Joel. Marlene just always was treating Ellie as a lab animal to be sacrificed in an experiment. It's completely against medical ethics which have been taught since WWII and the practices of the Nazis experimentation on prisoners. I was friends with a French woman whose whole family was killed by the Nazis. She had twin sisters who were "sacrificed" in his experiments. I am appalled at the "greater good" argument going on.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

Are you appalled that a _potential_ cure that could’ve saved tens of thousands of lives is gone? I’m a huge huge fan of Ellie and her friendship with Joel is the best thing about this show for me and always gets me. But you’re right, they should’ve told her and I think she would’ve chosen to go through with it

[@gailseatonhumbert]

@@myegyptiandadreacts4824 no because I am not willing to end my humanity and kill anyone for elites benefit. If it works. This "doctor" just had an interesting theory.

[@arkikali5632]

Interessting about the audience skew.

[@stephaniel2850]

​@@myegyptiandadreacts4824 "Are you appalled that a potential cure that could’ve saved tens of thousands of lives is gone?" This is actually my biggest issue with so much of the discourse around the ending, and to a degree even the way it's presented in the story itself: why is child murder suddenly a okay because "it's for the greater good"?? *Especially* when it's not actually the trolley problem; Joel didn't doom the entire world, because the world was already doomed 20 years prior. All he did was refuse to allow an innocent girl to be sacrificially murdered for a possible cure that, even if they COULD technically make it... HOW was it ever going to save the world?? Through what mechanism were they planning on mass producing and distributing it, and even if they could do *that* ... how was that going to magically rebuild society?? A cure would solve exactly one specific problem in a world absolutely OVERRUN with problems. And don't get me wrong, that would be useful! Not arguing that a cure wouldn't be beneficial in general. But I will *absolutely* stand by that it would never be worth resorting to sacrificial child murder for it. Now, if Joel and Ellie's story had taken place *prior* to the fungal outbreak, and somehow killing Ellie would definitively prevent the outbreak from ever happening, and Joel still chose to save her? THEN that would be a more complicated conundrum and a true trolley problem. But as it is, what Joel actually did was stop Ellie from being murdered by a group of people so lost in their grand dreams of being "the saviors of the world" that they lost any sense of humanity that would make the world *worth* saving. Another thought I keep coming back to is: Sarah didn't die from the infection. She died because of a broken society that resorted to murdering innocent people in the name of "preserving the greater good"; those soldiers were not going around shooting civilians for funsies, they thought they were "doing the right thing" too. Why is that twisted world view suddenly being validated just because Ellie's in her severely traumatized and survivor's guilt-ridden state would devalue her life enough to agree to it? In what way are the Fireflies any more morally justified than FEDRA if they're about to murder a child for a pipe dream that might be *helpful* if it could ever work at all, but could never magically bring society back? It truly does not matter how many lives MIGHT in theory be saved; Ellie's life matters too. Yes, Joel's motivations in the moment were at least partly selfish, but they were also morally right - in his selfish parental love, he was the only one who defended her right to exist as more than just a handy walking science experiment for the benefit of everyone else! The LYING to her about it was definitely morally wrong though, that's true. But I'll just never see how his saving her, in itself, was wrong, you know?

[@86leewis]

Perhaps after mutating they could, but in real life, cordyceps do not grow in the brain. You can see them on the ants torso, but still can control the ant.

[@corvuslight]

For me, because the Fireflies didn't tell Ellie that she would die from the procedure, they deserved what Joel did to them. Without consent from Ellie, what the Fireflies were doing was evil, it was literally murder...plus, there was no assurance that the procedure could develop a cure. However, I wish that Joel hadn't lied to Ellie afterwards. She deserved the truth, both from the Fireflies and Joel.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

That is true, but for us, this isn’t about the fireflies. It’s about the rest of the world. That’s what we were sad about, we didn’t care about the fireflies.

[@StinkFingerr]

Agreed. BTW, In real life, there has never been a successful fungus vaccine. The odds were against them being the first. Plus they had no means to mass produce and distribute any medicine they came up with.

[@アキコ2003]

So by your logic Joel is also evil? Since he murdered innocents when he was a raider

[@StinkFingerr]

@@アキコ2003 You could make that case.

[@アキコ2003]

@@StinkFingerr good then your prespective is quite relevant. As long as there is no hypocrisy or double standards I agree with you

[@iiatkiilol748]

Thx ❤️❤️

[@thedugout5192]

Joel isn't the problem. The fireflies kidnapped Ellie, withheld vital info from her and told Joel to kick rocks. Marlene should've known Joel wouldn't be down for that. He can be wrong for lying to her at the end but he did what he felt in the moment dealing with the circumstances of them wanting to kill her based on hopes and wishes. The show told us from the beginning there is no cure!

[@アキコ2003]

I may have disagreed with some of your views and points about certain parts of certain episodes but your reaction to the ending was pretty spot on and relatable, it's not supposed to invoke (wow so cool he's saving ellie this action is so awesome), it's just a very dark tragic "ending" I get people have different reactions but I doubt the creators behind this show/episode wanted people to feel joy like most reactors felt when watching the hospital massacre scene.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

Exactly. They overlayed the sad music as the main audio as Joel proceeded to kill the fireflies while the rest of the noises faded away. Marlene got to him and had the last say before he shot her, they filmed her begging for her life and him lying and Ellie visibly growing distant cause her gut is telling her somethings off. Without a doubt it was meant to make us feel this way.

[@IsanG08]

Fully enjoyed your guy's reaction might i recommend another good show for you guys to watch if you haven't watched it already, Peaky Blinders you guys should really check it out great action good story and could get a tear out of grown as men just like this show

[@IsanG08]

This season was absolutely amazing stayed very close to the source material and it is was all around really good best video game adaptation today, I don't know if people are gonna be able to handle s2 yk, it's actually like so messed up...like hurts your mind to think about and attacks your emotions like some bully on the playground lol i can't wait

[@lisadurmaz8750]

Loved watching you guys, your dad was spot on, on every episode. I am team Joel, being a mum I would of done the same as Joel. It wasn’t guaranteed that it would work. They should of been truthful to Ellie, you have to give your life for something that’s not guaranteed to work. So everyone lied for there own gain 😞

[@futo]

The Last of Us and House of the Dragon are two of the best series from HBO

[@OversizedMonkey]

I’m not sure if this could be a spoiler for season 2 SO ***SPOILERS*** I think if they write it where Ellie knew should would die and the vaccine would have a chance to work, she would have chosen to go through with it, and maybe even asked the Fireflies to keep it a secret from Joel that she knew. If she did make Marlene promise, it would be devastating, because the whole plot of TLOU part 2 could have been different if that decision was made in front of Joel. TL;DR: Joel wouldn’t have killed the Fireflies, if they gave Ellie the choice to die for a vaccine while he was awake to witness that choice.

[@kendigs54321]

Joel should’ve never lied

[@faresannaba9718]

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[@Hakkar6993]

Objectively speaking I feel like their idea of a "cure" was such a long shot medically and logistically (both in terms of being able to actually make it and being able to distribute it in a post-apocalyptic world where everything has gone to shit) that, in practice, they would have just sacrificed a 14 years old kid for nothing. So I don't really disagree with what Joel did in the end, brutal and detached as it was. It's a horrible thing all in all, especially how he pretty much dissociated with only the singular goal of saving Ellie and became something of an unfeeling rampaging machine, but honestly, they could have never made that cure work.

[@m.ericwatson968]

The ethical conundrum of Joel lying to Ellie reaches all of us with a conscience but in my opinion, the cure would not have worked the way they were thinking or led to believe, only Fedra and the most privileged would have received it, if they even produced a viable antidote, but to lie to her, was that necessary is the real moral question.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

I think this scene was edited and directed “sadly” it wasn’t the typical bombastic “hero saves the day” vibe. And I don’t think it was directed that way because only the most privileged would’ve received the vaccine. What was implied is it would’ve helped the world in general. That is an ethical conundrum on its own that resulted in Joel choosing to lie

[@Skrappy]

And remember.....Joel already doesn't like Marlene because he blamed her for Tommy joining the Fireflies and turning him against Joel....it was nothing for him to shoot Marlene!

[@anamaldonado2336]

Para salvar a mi hija de ella misma? Probablemente mentiría también El problema que tengo con Joel es que esa mentira es tan mala 😊 Craig Mazin dijo "Bueno, Joel no es muy inteligente" pero vive rodeado de mujeres inteligentes como su hija Sarah y ahora su casi segunda hija Ellie La única línea qué me encanta en el juego es cuando el dice *Si tuviera otra oportunidad lo haría todo de nuevo " Me encanta porque es lo que un verdadero padre diria "ódiame lo que quieras, enojarte, vete, pero estás viva" Hay muchas cosas que los padres no dejan hacer a sus hijos y es precisamente porque los quieren

[@gailseatonhumbert]

Joel killing everyone is doing what special forces do, dissociate and carry out the mission. They are not people when he is doing that they are obstacles and targets on the way to the mission objective. It's ruthless but so is Maureen starting with using the flash bang device on him and the rifle butt to his head. They would have killed him without any problem correct? so he does the same thing to them.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

Yes as far as their mutual violence towards each other. But the motivation is where it differs. Joel wants to save Ellie and declaring the case of the virus as helpless, while Marlene wants to kill an amazing innocent girl in an _attempt_ to save thousands of other innocent girls. Neither of them could be labeled as right and you know it. Why else couldn’t Joel just tell Ellie the truth? Hmm? It’s natural to be torn, but to choose one side completely and wholeheartedly? I mean.. 🫤 I respect your opinion.

[@gailseatonhumbert]

@@myegyptiandadreacts4824 Joel's lying is part of his initial defenses. He did it with his brother initially too about Tess and Ellie if you recall? I have massive problems with Marlene's behavior. Promised Tess and Joel a big payment if they transported Ellie he succeeds and she throws him out on the street without even a weapon except Ellie's knife? No the bad guy is Marlene. The doctor's theory hasn't been proved. If Ellie dies and it doesn't work you are ok with that I take it? Joel committing suicide is okay with you too? You realize that was the way he set it up in the hospital? He either gets Ellie or he dies in the attempt. A variation on suicide by cop.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

No I’m not okay with Ellie’s dying for nothing of course. But what if what’s preventing Ellie from getting infected was replicated and utilized to help humanity? Are you against that? See, it’s unfair of me to ask you that question because again, *it’s uncertain and nothing is guaranteed.* All I know is Ellie would’ve probably decided to go through with it and I think that’s the main reason Joel lied. Suggesting Joel lied because it’s just part of his initial defenses is just preferential thinking to attain a more comfortable conclusion. But the main problem here is Marlene is evil because she didn’t give Ellie the choice.

[@KarenMCribb]

Marlene didn’t promise Ellie’s mother anything. Ellie’s mother shamed her into taking Ellie.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

So what did you expect Ellie’s mom to do? Provide an alternative solution

[@arkikali5632]

I don't know that I would say what Joel did was evil. In his mind, he was saving his daughter. And he 's come to look at Ellie as being his daughter. He lost Sarah--I don't think he could go through it again with Ellie. And most people wouldn't give up their child--not just give them up, sacrifice them--for the greater good. For him it was like saying "We're going to throw your child in the volcano so the crops will come back."

[@AL-fl4jk]

The world took everything from Joel so he took everything from the world

[@pencil6965]

the world didn't take from joel, a soldier did

[@BIGxBOSSxx1]

@@pencil6965the world being what it was at the time made the soldier take Joel’s world

[@pencil6965]

@@BIGxBOSSxx1 ok but joel is not the only person to exist in the world lmao, this is the logic anyone can use to justify extreme violence. it's like someone bombing jackson because tommy killed someone's son/daughter/dad/mom. do you see the circular logic. it allows joel to indirectly kill you too even if you had nothing to do with it lol

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

I’m with you. *My feelings* prefer what Joel did. But logically and objectively I know that a possible cure is the top priority.

[@BIGxBOSSxx1]

@@pencil6965 more blood. More violence. more revenge 🤯

[@dipsydoodle2728]

It’s funny that people feel the worst about Marlene when she’s the reason this all happened she never told Ellie she kept them apart she turned on Joel and one has to wonder if FEDRA did what she did whether she would have let them kill Ellie and yes he lied I wish he came up with something more convincing but people lie to their kids to protect them or even themselves it happens And the “cure” wasn’t a sure thing it was “thinks” and “chances” so would he let her die for a chance NEVER so I’m not surprised

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

I don’t think it was Marlene that people cared about but the possibility of a cure. And of course it wasn’t a sure thing. But a possibility of a cure is better than none at all. However Marlene should’ve told Ellie and let her choose because it’s the decent thing to do.

[@anamaldonado2336]

I guess i have a dark side too, because if is my daughter or son (not a stranger), as selfish and mean as may be, i kill everybody too specially Marlene. i don't get why people get so shock by her execution It is a very weird concept of betrayal . Not The first time i hear that, The idea adds drama sure but You , an almost raped 14 year old girl with clear survivals gilt, wanted to die, but I didnt let them, so I betray You? Come again? I imagine María in Wyoming saying "sure Ellie Joel kind of betrayed you, but i didnt mean that" :)

[@LovedByYou]

I remember watching this being upset, like Joel what on earth are you doing!?? I get the frame of mind he’s in, and I sympathize with it, but he shouldn’t do what he wants in spite of Ellie’s free will. If she knew the risks and decided to go through it anyway it’s up to her.

[@arkikali5632]

But she didn't know the risks. Marlene said they lied to her so she wouldn't be afraid. They probably told her it was a routine surgery and everything was going to be fine. Not "We're going to scoop your brain out like a melon. And no, you won't survive it."

[@LovedByYou]

@@arkikali5632 I’m sure she thought of it, and she said many times she wanted to “finish what they started.”. What he did was Selfish regardless of it it saved Ellie’s life, and then he lied about it.

[@arkikali5632]

@@LovedByYou Maybe. I mean, we can't really know. Nobody flat-out told her she was going to die. Regardless of what I think about Joel's actions, I agree with you that he shouldn't have lied about it.

[@StinkFingerr]

It's okay to root for Joel, and here's why. Marlene refused to let Ellie wake up and make an informed choice. The fireflies forced Joel's hand. Plus as has been pointed out, there was zero assurance that Ellie wouldn't have died for nothing.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

Yes but it’s still the best chance the world has ever had and many many lives are at stake

[@StinkFingerr]

@@myegyptiandadreacts4824 No argument there. But would we want to make a new world built on the Murder of a Young Girl, who wasn't afforded a Choice in the Matter? Anyway, I enjoyed your Video. Thank You.

[@myegyptiandadreacts4824]

Well it depends. Are we gonna let tens of thousands of more people lose their lives for one girl? See? It goes both ways.

[@Drikaaa88]

Exactly! I'm with Joel.

[@StinkFingerr]

@@myegyptiandadreacts4824 Uh, Did you know that in real life there have been significant efforts made to develop a successful fungus vaccine? They failed. And also within the series itself, do you remember the Television show at the beginning? The expert said it was impossible. Ethically, Marlene should have allowed Ellie to wake up and make an Informed Choice. In a way, I think TLOU set up a false choice. We are led to believe that this was a choice between saving mankind or Joel saving Ellie. But was that really what this was? I certainly wouldn't take Marlene's word for it.