The Last of Us (HBO) 1x9 "Look for the Light" | The Normies Group Reaction

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[@itslyssbiss]

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[@sickleweed3270]

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[@thisissparta300ful]

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[@Ahahabih416]

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[@_pumpkin-pie]

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[@spacepotato5524]

For some reason the grunting is when she sounds most Ellie-like. I didn’t realize it was her at first until she grunted and I was like “omg, Ashley Johnson!”

[@Vin_Venture896]

I honestly think it’s because in the game you spend so much time in combat and movement that most of the dialogue from Ashley you hear is actually ADR grunts, moans, shouts, screams, etc

[@blacprophet1153]

I don't know but HBO's birth scenes from the HOTD and the last of us are traumatizing to me! God Bless all the women out here that bring forth life in this World because I would not want that blessing/gift!!

[@TukaihaHithlec]

Those sounds are called efforts, and they’re the hardest things to change your voice for. Two voice actors can otherwise sound identical, but their efforts are distinctly their own.

[@Vanished_Mostly]

@@blacprophet1153 Never watch Station Eleven then.

[@AL-fl4jk]

It was the “fuck” for me

[@Justin_Dahan]

Fun fact, the giraffe was not CGI it was real. But everything around, the floor, walls, roof were all blue for CGI

[@ijlayugan4149]

IT WAS REAL?! which parts? cause there had to be at least some cgi giraffe involved

[@leforte162]

@@ijlayugan4149 perhaps the giraffes that were already in the distance were graphics, but that one was real

[@ijlayugan4149]

@@leforte162 dang wow I really thought it was just incredibly realistic cgi. I went "Oo giraffe, kinda still looks clay but pretty good cgi"

[@adarshchoudhary1900]

@@ijlayugan4149 I had the same reaction. Thought it was CGI. Apparently the giraffe is real but the background is CGI.

[@keepyourselfsafe1386]

@@ijlayugan4149 Yeah I thought it was CGI as well. It's probably because the entirety of the background was CGI so something just felt off.

[@marcoscarrasco92]

"If your kids are sad because they murdered someone, take them to the zoo." Good to know. Just in case.

[@mummypage]

Self defence dude 😆

[@BaddGirl420]

Pretty sure it was what he tried to do to her that traumatized her, not what she did to him.

[@choiboi23]

@@BaddGirl420 Killing someone and turning their head into mincemeat itself can be a traumatic experience too.

[@diwakar8815]

Murdered a cannibal acceptable

[@choiboi23]

@@diwakar8815 oh well in that case, let's see you murder a pedophile/murderer and let's see how you turn out

[@vincible45]

20:12 “R.I.P that doctor” that glance he makes into the camera knowing damn well what we gamers had to go through 😂😂😂 😭

[@Midna.K]

The camera focusing on the doctor after being shot...they know what they're doing 💀

[@vincible45]

Time for a certain someone to start working on their front hand swing 🏌️

[@josephjasem7926]

@@vincible45 Do you play golf ⛳️ 😜?

[@ferminballesteros7462]

​@@vincible45 To soon...

[@BlackDaffodils]

@@ferminballesteros7462 way too soon 😂

[@301baby4l]

The fact they brought the voice actors of Ellie, Joel, Tommy, Marlene, and Abby in one season is phenomenal

[@mrcool7140]

Wait who played Abby?

[@LazzyVamples]

@@mrcool7140 Laura Bailey. she's one of the nurses in this episode, which wasn't nearly as big of a role as the other ones got.

[@AL-fl4jk]

@@LazzyVamples partly a nod to the fact she played that nurse in the first game too

[@LazzyVamples]

@@AL-fl4jk Ah that's right, she did. Thank you for reminding me.

[@LunaQuOfficial]

Who did the voice actors for Tommy and Marlene play?

[@seeminglyawesomeanimations6920]

In a very poetic way that knife Ellie carries around separated her from her mother but she never goes anywhere without it so it’s like they are always together

[@Cadinho93]

This was an emotional episode seeing the opening with Ashley Johnson's Anna opening the episode gave me chills. It's the passing of the torch from the OG Ellie to the actress who is playing Ellie in the show. Ashley in those 5 to maybe 10 minutes powerful performance and knocked it out of the park. Also, for me here's what sets this show apart from similar shows: restraint. It's eerie, intelligent, carefully paced and most importantly it only rarely shows you the infected. This means that when an infected DOES appear, it's impactful AF.

[@canoodlepoodle7892]

I literally burst into tears when he said "it wasnt time that did it" that was such a cute little scene I love them so much

[@Lcjr23]

I like how you can clearly hear Ellie through her grunts and noises 😅 also felt the moment she held baby Ellie felt like sort of passing the torch moment

[@thefilmmaker9802]

Fun Fact: Aside from Ashley Johnson, Laura Bailey makes a cameo as one of the nurses (who actually voiced that same nurse from the game) within this episode as well!

[@stalk05]

Also if you played the 2nd game, Laura Bailey being in that scene is ...........Yeah i am not gonna spoil it....😛

[@a_2502]

@@stalk05 spoilers. is it Mel?

[@navyblue42]

@@a_2502 nope, she's the voice actress of abby

[@AdrianUng13]

@@navyblue42she plays Abby , its not only her voice , she IS Abby, like Ashley’s Ellie.

[@Iden_Elihio_1999]

@@a_2502 No bro ...

[@Sean-xy2nb]

i cant believe its been 9 weeks already, amazing show

[@joeldean2706]

It goes quick and now we wait for the next season.

[@SustainablePhysics]

I think the ending reflects a whole lot on how we're influenced by our past when making choices about the future. Ellie is tormented by the deaths of all the people she believes she could've saved as does Joel. Someone else in that same situation haunted by a set of different events might've made different choices. A simpler choice would've been to let Ellie live her life long enough before operating on her. Maybe she can pass on that immunity to her children. In which case all you'd need is her placenta to obtain the cells that would otherwise be in her brain. A rational way forward would require a rational world to prevail but alas this is not that world.

[@crimsonghoul8983]

Thank you. I feel validated.

[@mst3KGf]

"Time heals all wounds, I guess." "It wasn't time that did it." It's hard to match "baby girl", but they actually did it. The expressions on Joel and Ellie's faces say everything. Especially Ellie. The poor orphan girl who, by her own words, had everyone she ever cared about die or leave her, knows without question that she has a father who will NEVER leave her.

[@itbechelsea]

Suraj and Micky every time something big from the game happens 😂👌🏻

[@ezioauditore4061]

Their look at each other after "RIP doctor" lol. If you know, you know.

[@matin793]

💀

[@oonahoney4332]

After all these years, that ending gives me the same exact gut feeling as it did when I was a kid. They nailed this adaptation holy crap

[@ThousanWhite]

People have gotten so used to how ubiquitous CGI is that anytime they see something shockingly magical on tv or in movies, the first instinct is "oh wow, that's good CGI"

[@terrancamaclang]

Professional vfx artist here, yep. I do it too.

[@palazard95]

It was a real giraffe in front of a cgi background, with cgi editing done on its fur It didn't look real, even though photos from the set look perfectly fine

[@Quzga]

@@palazard95 it definitely looked real lol.. You're prob not used seeing a giraffe in such high detail. I'm a texture artist and while my first thought was that it was hbo's insane budget for öl impressive cgi, it looked flawless to me. Just assumed they wouldn't use a real one.

[@babyfood9537]

@@Quzga looked fake to me. Or maybe it looked like 2 scenes doctored together which is what made it look fake. Like green screen or something

[@NATHANIELJELKS-PLANEJANE-FAN]

IKR That's What I Be Sayin Lol, Like Can Y'all Just Watch & Enjoy It 🤷 They Act Like Kids In A Candy Store OMG Is That CGI It Looks Awesome Or Not In A Candy Store See A Bad Accident & Say This Scene Looks Horrible

[@desertfox2000]

Joel lied to Ellie because he knows Ellie would do anything to save everyone and would not stop until she can sacrifice herself to cure everyone.

[@smeg4brainsukaya]

I love how these conversations are all happening again 10 years later, such a great game and I cannot wait to see season 2/3.

[@toknowwhyuneed3593]

If they follow the story of The Last of Us 2 then I just won't watch. There is a way to tell a story about the cycle of violence, and a way to make what was once an enemy seem sympathetic. But Naughty Dog did not do that.

[@syressx9098]

@@toknowwhyuneed3593 They did, it's won the best game of the year, and it's my all time favorite. And for many others, if something didn't work for doesn't mean it's bad.

[@troyareyes]

Marketas got that thousand yard stare we all had back in 2013 when the credits rolled

[@Drstrange3000]

Yep! 😅

[@nickhoadley6789]

Absolutely incredible. They managed to capture the spirit of the game while also expanding on it. This series is a 10/10

[@kevn1k472]

To answer your question about if the cure would have done anything it’s simple and straight forward, “You’re not immune from being ripped apart” - Tess

[@nApucco]

I love that Micky noticed the reaction of everybody else (especially giddy bloodthristy Rana 😂) and probably realized what that would mean for Season 2. So much fun to see reactions of those already thinking ahead vs. those just in the current season. I'm so curious how people will handle season two.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

It will be controversial for sure, but I think they did a very good job with the show in prepping the viewers in regards to moral grey areas and perspectives, much better than the game did. I think this will help to flatten the curve, but I also know that "these" type of people will continue to cry about it for another 3 years to come.

[@rockycuro7737]

​@@Dark__Thoughtsit's a shame that people played this game and really got "there's a clear, black and white, good guy bad guy story being told here. I'm sure the next game will give us more happy uplifting adventures" How naive could a fanbase be?

[@TealJosh]

@@rockycuro7737 Nope, for many of those people, this game was only good because of the relationship between Joel and Ellie.

[@rockycuro7737]

@@TealJosh well that's stupid. It's like playing a Batman video game only for the relationship between Batman and Alfred, you're kinda focusing on the wrong parts of the story.

[@TealJosh]

@@rockycuro7737 1. who on earth are you to tell other people how art should be interpreted and enjoyed? 2. The relationship between Joel and Ellie is literally the main focus of the game. It's not a side story. Moreover the whole theme of both of the games is relationships, positive and negative. You couldn't be more wrong saying that those people were focusing on the wrong parts of the story.

[@Ren_Davis0531]

I loved how all of the callbacks like Chef Boyardee and the five mile hike that Joel makes is his way of showing how much he cares for Ellie. It harkens back to Frank saying paying attention to things is how we show love. He was paying attention to Ellie the entire time because he instantly felt those fatherly instincts when he was first hired to protect her. He just buried it until he couldn’t anymore. The scene where he shows his vulnerability and openly talks about his suicide attempt was so heartwarming. He shows so much vulnerability that he wouldn’t originally show because that’s how much he cares about Ellie. It’s heavily implied that he contemplated suicide in the game, but verbalizing it in the show only to end with the “it wasn’t time that did it” was a good choice. And Ellie responding with “well I’m glad that didn’t work out” was perfect. That’s the closest they will ever get to saying “I love you”. Love how much goes without saying in their relationship. It’s that subtle dance between tease and payoff that really makes us chomp at the bit for every single interaction, clinging to every second. Fun fact: before the game came out 50% of the play testers without children hated the ending and wanted it changed, and all of the testers with kids understood Joel and loved the ending. Happy Naughty Dog stuck to their guns and didn’t go for the safer, more feel good ending. People still discuss this ending and how it made us feel to this day.

[@corporealghoul]

Laura was one of the nurses at the end. She also voiced the same nurse in the game calling you an animal after you kill the doctor.

[@jamaljames9331]

I’m surprised she doesn’t call him an animal in the show too lol 😂

[@sakurap95]

What I like about the story of part one is its unique take on humanity and its purpose within us as humans. It’s sort of a trope to have one person sacrificed to save the many. But this game subverted that expectation for me. Usually zombie apocalypse games/movies have a level of expectation that you have to make the “tough call” and let people die. Usually for your own survival or for all remaining humans to be saved. But movies like “Train to Bushan” and this game, broadened my thinking of the genre. Because of Joel’s actions, I realized… The fate of humanity shouldn’t rest on the shoulders of a single little girl. Like some miracle cure is going to help save the world from its problems. It’s not her responsibility. It’s everyone’s. Ellie dying won’t save humanity. People have to save their own humanity. A cure won’t give anyone that. People would still fight. People would still abuse power. Joel gave her a chance at life itself. To enjoy being alive. To find love, to have friends, to be her own person. Ellie, this character we’ve grown attached to, is worth more alive than dead. She means more to Joel than the world would ever care about her or her death. Even if her cure did save the people that were left, she’d be forgotten. This girl that thought she wouldn’t matter to anyone - because everyone she’d ever loved had either died or left - through Joel, got the chance to live and feel important. So in the end, to my own surprise, I think Joel was justified. Not because he took a choice away from her, but because it shouldn’t have been a choice a kid should have to make in the first place. BTW: thinking about it, those doctors didn’t even wake Ellie up and ask her for her consent. As far as Ellie knew, they would draw some blood and run tests. She might have guessed death could be possible, but the surgeons didn’t bother waking her up. I can only think that is because they knew they were going to go through with the surgery whether she said yes or no. So they kept her sedated and asked Marlene’s permission. Abby’s dad can fuck it. Sorry for the strong language but, man, he doesn’t get to decide for her.

[@BenKei83]

Joel: I'm getting old and weak, you have to take her Thommy. Joel: Time to start a War

[@ellemars1817]

RIP that Doctor. That random doctor that died with no repercussions.... at all. Also another Critical Role cameo and major OG TLoU surprise: Laura Bailey was one of the nurses in the room! Kinda hoping we see more CR cameos in the next later seasons as all of them played random voices throughout the games.

[@kkjhn41]

She was also the voice of one of the nurses in the original game (as well as a newscaster and some other uncredited voices). After part 2 came out and she was the voice of Abby they hired someone else to voice the nurse in remakes of part 1 to avoid people hearing the nurse with Abby's voice.

[@johnjungkook2721]

Yeah, RIP to that doctor. Who, instead of doing some other tests, or trying to recreate the conditions of Ellie's condition, or maybe investigating her blood or bone marrow, decided to blow the whole fate of humanity on one potential operation.

[@crimsonghoul8983]

She should be Mel next season.

[@TheJerbol]

The clip of Joel flaming the doctor to death had me rolling

[@kriztronikplays159]

The "Swear to Me" moment, you can see Joel's heart snap in two.

[@papaclunkyowa3935]

Micky cheesing and trying not to laugh at @3:36 when Marketa said she would be pissed if there was a cliffhanger in the end was absolutely priceless. Also Suraj looking at the camera like "Welp...you'll find out soon enough."

[@mrdavman13]

No the farmhouse where Ellie was born is not the farmhouse from the second game. The farmhouse where Ellie was born was on the outskirts of Boston. You can see the skyline in the background. That was the initial time Anna and Marlene and the other fireflies going to Boston. The farmhouse Ellie and Dina lived in was just outside of Jackson, Wyoming

[@Phelddagrif1998]

Suraj and Micky turned to each other when the Joel shot the docter and smiled. They get they know. That look was the look of “we know but they don’t” hahahahaaa

[@zimvader25]

With the cure, why is everyone assuming the fireflies were honestly going to share any cure with anyone not with them?

[@aaronhunter6268]

It’s shitty Joel lies to her but I’m so happy that the lie he says about raiders attacking the hospital is so much more believable that the game. It always annoyed me how awful the lie was 😂

[@Kyss111]

At least there's some truth in his lie, He is the raider! 😆

[@GarfieldiusPrime]

IKR

[@jamaljames9331]

I mean the lie being awful is why Ellie knows that Joel is lying, but decides to leave it at his word. It wasn’t until the years went by that Ellie couldn’t live with the lie anymore, that she decides to take matters into her own hands to find out the truth for herself and has the opportunity to force it out of Joel where he can’t gaslight her anymore. Even though the lie might be more believable in the show, you can tell Ellie still knows Joel is not telling her everything that really happened

[@sherank244]

Y’all’s discussion after the reaction is why I fucking love this game man, just so dang good and I can’t wait for them to do part 2 it’s going to get even more interesting.

[@sherank244]

Btw bill was in the middle of the street to draw the fire away from the house to protect Frank… that’s why he told him to go back inside 😭😭😭

[@meeranhaq9479]

The fact the exact same discussion is back on the table after the show ended is hilarious lol. Season 2 and 3 are gonna be so fun

[@matheusg.4953]

Spidey was too funny "ngl, I'd have shot him faster than that"

[@Pj123426]

spidey saying "oh.. i just shot him, as soon as he reached" made me absolutely die laughing hahahaha

[@josehigor3672]

I remember feeling so empty after finishing the game, conflicted and not knowing what i would have chosen, then waiting 7 years for Part II to maybe fill up that emptiness, but it just made me emptier. Nothing in any form of media makes me feel like The Last Of Us, i can't explain why, i just feel it.

[@BirdsFlyinHigh]

I absolutely LOVE the end discussion in this episode. You guys touched on so many questions and arguments I had with friends. Thanks for this

[@ATinyWaffle]

Laura Bailey was the nurse on the right, closer to camera when Joel enters the operating room🥰

[@mjdaniel8710]

Another great episode, and that was my question, they didn't even know if their cure would even work

[@TheGeneralGrievous19]

That was a really good finale. 👍 The decision Joel had to make was really tough. I can understand his decision. Some of the scenes were beautiful. Thank You for the reaction! ❤

[@justsherman4]

That was a real giraffe. I thought it was CGI too when i saw it.

[@johnbowersox738]

Before I forget, I truly appreciate the pallet cleansing pun. In a very intense episode it was perfect.

[@noirnoir4276]

The best "zombie" tv show. It was so good. The complex story telling at its finest

[@Ir0Mist]

Don't get me wrong the last of us is beautiful written definetly the most consistent but twd 1-7 were amazing with some of the most iconic characters

[@Vale9118]

Twd is the best zombie series, TLOU is the best “zombie” (infected actually) game… the series is good, loved the references to the gameplay and all, but doesn’t stand a chance to the game nor TWD, especially the first 6 seasons

[@noirnoir4276]

@@Ir0Mist The only character that was on this level of tlou is rick and season 3-5 carol. I was never this divided (in a good way). Yet so satisfied at the same time.TLOU did that. There were times that I was just plain frustrated and fed up at TWD, by the end of it. Just antics to get views. TWD brought back the zombie genre. But TLOU has elevated it.

[@Ir0Mist]

@Noir Noir that's why I said tlou is more consistent also I only have like 4 characters in twd that I think are better or compare to joel I'm just saying the cast as a whole is very consistent and very well developed when you look into it

[@noirnoir4276]

@@Ir0Mist If one show is more consistent than another show. Than by default it would be the better show. But to each their own.

[@JessicaL17]

I had started watching The Normies years ago because none of my friends watched The Walking Dead. When that series ended I wasn’t sure what videos of The Normies to start watching until The Last of Us came out and i’m so excited to keep watching the channel as we all take on a new show together.

[@darkphoenix2]

"All worth it for Ellie" Bless her innocent heart

[@Ren_Davis0531]

Fun fact: Laura Bailey (also of Critical Role fame, The Last of Us Part II, and one of the actual nurses in this part of the game) was one of the nurses in the operating room.

[@tengomiedito]

"R.I.P. that doctor..." *Suraj's face 👏👏👏

[@Lucklaran]

First off, this was, in my opinion, the best show to come out in the last decade, and the best adaptation of a video game ever. An example every other show should strive to emulate. They cut non-story relevant parts from the game to give us a better fleshed out story, with more relatable characters. The cast was amazing, though I had my doubts initially. I'm glad I was wrong. The Normies reactions were fun as always. Thank you for bringing us along on this ride. Suraj touches on a real good point that all of them dismiss too easily. The people in this world have almost universally gone over to kill first, and take what they have. How in the hell would you convince people that are determined to just kill you and take your stuff, a) not to kill you, b)believe you have an actual cure and are not just trying to trick them into lowering their guard so you can kill them, c) if they kill you before you can convince them the cure is real... then the cure is effectively dead, and Ellie died for nothing. This is what he's talking about. Never mind the idea that they can identify and synthesize an unknown substance with the equipment that is available in a post-apocalyptic world. Something that could not be done by actual experts in the pre-apocalypse world. Never mind the moral implications of "We didn't tell her, we didn't cause her any fear..." Which is complete horseshit. They didn't want her to even have a chance of saying no when she found out they were going to kill her because some dude "THINKS it COULD be a cure". The only reason to rush the surgery was to give Ellie and Joel no time to think or have second thoughts. There is zero guarantee that killing Ellie will lead to a cure. Even if it did, the second point applies.

[@MrPicklerwoof]

Yeah, I find the whole 'debate' a big non-debate tbh. The Fireflies throw up so many red flags - and the practical issues are so endless - that it's absolute madness to actually expect them to make a difference in this world. Druckmann has since said that we should suspend all those practical questions and just assume that they would definitely get a cure & that it would save the world. Which is bollocks. That's not how storytelling works - the creative work needs to stand on its own 2 feet and be perceived entirely by the observer. Not with additional notes from the writer telling us what to think. Ergo, Joel's actions are entirely sound. Perhaps not in Druckmann's retconned magical fantasy world, but in the real world they would be.

[@nityasg2260]

They didn't even wait long enough & went straight to surgery. The previous tests on Ellie was rudimentary because they didn't even have any equipment where they were keeping Ellie . I'm not sure surgery should've been the first action plan with the ONLY immune person in the entire world.

[@mconnaghan]

17:14 Shout-out to first reaction I've seen to mention the trolley problem!

[@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates]

I didn't know the original Ellie was going to be in the series, but as soon as I heard her voice, I knew it was her. There was just no way.

[@StrosB4Hos]

Dude that said “RIP to that Dr.” Then smirked at the camera. Lol. FYI Laura Bailey was one of the nurses. Everything comes full circle.

[@PaulCastles]

Micky recognizing you know what was the best 😁

[@Vale9118]

Ellie and Dina’s farm? I doubt it was that one

[@Dark__Thoughts]

@@Vale9118 It wasn't the place (probably), but it was definitely meant to be an easter egg for people who know Part 2. They even had the freaking tractor out there.

[@mattb7479]

Yeah I didn’t get that part. That house was in Boston. Ellie is in Wyoming or somewhere deeper in the Rockies I believe.

[@Vale9118]

@@Dark__Thoughts i didn’t focus on the tractor, but I can see the Easter egg than :)

[@basti5231]

Rana just sitting there like it's a normal f*cking Sunday while almost everybody else is screaming at each other is sending me

[@Mm-dn5gc]

the dilemma that Joel goes through reminds me a lot to the plot in Arcane. "is there anything so undoing as a daughter?" and he was right... fuck the world. I wouldn't give up my daughter either.

[@GfYs86]

LMAO that opening ad was INCREDIBLE 👍💯👏🏽🙌🏽

[@catenystrom6506]

If this show doesn't win ALLLLLL the awards, I swear. Best show since Breaking Bad.

[@crea8ivemaster]

Laura Bailey played the role of one of the nurses 🙌

[@nullunit]

Marlene knew a different Joel from who he is when she see him again here, I think that is part of why she doesn't kill him. She may not be able to conceive of a Joel who gives shit enough to storm back into a building and murder everyone. She thinks she is going to sacrifice Eliie but what she is doing is trying to kill Joel's "Baby Girl". Much like Amos from the Expanse, Joe is "That guy". In the game I was so wrapped up in that final action sequence and the urgency of saving Ellie that the enormity of what I did, or we did I guess, didn't really hit until the scene in the truck as Ellie was waking up. I sat real quiet after that, and made peace with the fact that as much as I love the dude Joel was the bad guy and by extension I was complicit in his actions. Agree with Marketa in that Ellie should have had a choice but it needed to happen before, not after Joel's rampage. I don't agree with his lie but I understand why he did, sad reality is Ellie never believed that lie. She is too smart for her own good. That being said, it made the TLOU Part 2 hit very different for me, like a really layered experience. I hope they are able to achieve that with season 2 of the show.

[@KawaiiSoulB42]

What Joel did in a few minutes took 20 years for Fedra to do. XD 19:49 Laura bailey (second Nurse in the back)

[@gageballou3430]

laura bailey was one of the assistants of the surgeon!

[@prozzak1]

The hospital scene was shot in the old hospital I was born in and been in a few times due to injuries etc… It was crazy to see on the screen.

[@devilskind92]

I thought I'd see some people horrified by Joel's actions and then they're all cheering lol That was depressingly funny

[@Knives6Nine]

Laura Bailey's cameo was in the surgery room, she was one of the nurses!

[@falconsfan28-38]

32:31 And this is why Chris is and always will be the best of out the bunch because he’s a realist who is open minded about both sides and has valid arguments that supports and rebuttal both…anyone who thinks Joel did the right thing is delusional and emotionally selfish but those who understand why he did it are understanding parents/parents to be

[@chasingfelix3609]

He 100% did the wrong thing. Many of us would 100% do the same and acknowledge and understand how effectively evil we are for doing it.

[@jamaljames9331]

I’m honestly surprised that I don’t see a lot of people connecting it to what Henry does for Sam. He also did a bad guy thing in order to save his brother

[@sageinthecut]

Abby VA (Laura Bailey) was one of the nurses in the operating room.

[@jinkazma]

As much as Suraj makes fun of the, "um... actually 🤓☝️" comments, he is literally that person on the couch 😂

[@scorpioj3]

True!! But it's endearing when it's him because he's just passionate and giddy about it

[@jinkazma]

@@scorpioj3 I'm sure the "um actually" dude in the comments is the same. The difference is, we can see Suraj's giddyness lol

[@zenmonk5403]

39:15 100%. They kept the body count low in previous episodes, which made it authentic on its new medium. That hallway rambo-shot should been done with Joel behind cover.

[@iwillcry]

What makes the hospital scenes so good is that no one's in the right.

[@chogunrua]

uhhh Joel is very clearly in the right. If one side is murdering a kid and the other isn't id say the non child murders are in the right.

[@danielrodio9]

What he did was extreme, but believable. It wasn't a mad king moment, it was cold calculated attachment.

[@mexicantwerk3758]

it's a pleasure to go through this show with u guys thank u so much for watching it with me! i also loved all the skits haha

[@teknoYAY]

I seriously love their skits to random shows

[@orghanikproductions9293]

F.Y.I. - @ 11:22 NOTICE how the silhouette of the Giraffe is in the windows (center/left window) as Ellie runs across (right to left). IMPECABLE DETAIL!!!

[@anand_kv__]

R.I.P to the doctor indeed... Those who did not play Part 2 have no idea what's headed their way in season 2 & 3 😂 The only thing that would have been better in this episode was the "I don't have time for this" scene. It was delivered really badass in the game

[@stwartic4296]

Joel to Marlene and the Fireflies "She means more to me than you'll ever know."

[@THEMVPS3179]

When you’re lost in the darkness ep 1, Look for the light ep 9. Can’t wait for season 2. Joel did nothing we wouldn’t have done

[@TukaihaHithlec]

Laura Bailey plays Kari the operating room nurse in both the game and show.

[@victorewah2659]

What Joel made very clear in this episode is that he would do anything to prevent having his heart crushed again and torn from his chest. Unless you experienced loss in the same manner as Joel did with Sarah you could never fully understand what motivated him in that hospital, which I fear went somewhere beyond just love for Ellie. Joel in essence recovered a part of himself that he had lost so long ago and he's intent on never letting it go EVER again, if he can help it anyway. For 20 years, Joel has just been existing and once he met Ellie he actually began living again; so ask yourself, if you were Joel could you just give that up to go back to how you were?

[@holysecret2]

Though I agree with the thinking behind this "defense", it's not really a good defense. This basically isn't different from calling him selfish, only phrasing it with "good faith", so to speak. The stronger, and at least equally valid, defense would be that Ellie did not get to choose. And she did not get to discuss the choice with (basically) her father beforehand, which is an irresponsible thing to do when a minor is involved. I think these two things were the primary motivation for Joel. That he himself could not lose Ellie was certainly on his mind, but I hope and believe that this more selfish desire would not override his love and respect for Ellie, in case that she decided on her own accord that she wanted to sacrifice herself for the greater good. If Joel acted the way he did AFTER being granted the discussion with Ellie, and her making that choice, I would 100% be calling Joel's actions selfish and evil.

[@kiwigirljacks]

@@holysecret2 even if she made the choice… she shouldn’t be given it. She would have said yes because she’s selfless and been programmed to believe she’s the only hope for the world. But no 14 year old traumatised child is equipped to make that decision which is why parents legally have to make medical decisions until children are adults. So regardless, he did the right thing in my opinion even if she had agreed to it…because legally she can’t consent.

[@holysecret2]

@@kiwigirljacks I would have to see the discussion between Joel and Ellie play out to make up my mind on this. You do have a point, however this situation is also rather unique and you can't necessarily apply every-day common sense here. If I was in Joel's situation, I think I would at the very least demand they exhaust every other avenue first, do weeks, months or years of testing and research, and only then consider the lethal option. Who knows, perhaps killing her isn't even necessary in the long run. Or maybe her offspring will inherit her immunity, and they can do decades of research with the help of her bloodline. You can argue many things in favor of not killing her right away.

[@kiwigirljacks]

@@holysecret2 agreed! But even if all other options have been exhausted and taking into account it’s a post apocalyptic world, a 14 year olds brain is still not developed enough to make that kind of decision rationally and should never be required to. They’ve lived for 20 years in this world, waiting a few more until she is old enough to make the decision isn’t a big ask in my opinion.

[@lro001]

Joel was a selfish bastard and I was relieved he was dealt with properly in the part 2.

[@Nephlim20]

Yo, that intro was flippin hilarious especially when Marketa look at the camera. I wonder how many times it took to get that shot.

[@Enjoi__]

Been waiting for this all day. Episode was fantastic and 10/10 show and episode

[@anthonyhudak9363]

Considering animals are not directly infected by cordyceps like humans are, I like to imagine a scenario where escaped lions or bears start hunting the infected in the city ruins

[@mrknowhere6457]

What a great adaption. And what I love about this whole story is that both Joel and the fireflies made the wrong decision. In the end, it should have been Ellies choice. Neither Marlene and the fireflies or Joel gave that to her. And even then, you still understand where both sides are coming from.

[@saibanahmad5613]

Laura Bailey was in this episode, she was playing one of the nurses.

[@n3rd_chris520]

One thing everyone forgets after seeing the episode is what was said in the very beginning of episode 1. There could never be a cure. If it was impossible for modern day science, then it’s unimaginable in post apocalyptic day

[@NaritaZaraki]

Haven't played the game so I might be misunderstanding/missing something here but I thought what the Fireflies were trying to do was give humanity immunity so no more people would be turned. Like Ellie. They can't cure people but they can make sure that no more people are lost to the epidemic and can gradually work towards being rid of the already infected and rebuilding in earnest. Am I wrong?

[@SkutterC]

@@NaritaZaraki I think it was less about immunity and more about camouflage against infected. The "protein marker" or whatever it was made the infected believe they were already infected. I guess it is a form of immunity.

[@NaritaZaraki]

@@SkutterC Ahh. I guess that's something. But if they got bit, then they would turn regardless? No chance of replicating how the whole thing works for Ellie?

[@TwistedRootsAI]

Laura Bailey played one of the nurses in Ellie's surgery.

[@roni2971]

I like to think that in a poetic way the mom was there saving Ellie along with Joel when he uses the knife.

[@paulmd7747]

"Its the trolly problem" It literally is. Damn.

[@mowgli6345]

I saw a comment in Reddit that made me think. It wouldn't have mattered if they let Ellie choose. Marlene would never let her say no, and Joel would never let her say yes.

[@bobort2085]

I honestly feel like bringing up "ellie's choice" is just a cop out to get away from the soul of the argument you know? She was 14, and recently traumatized. Ain't know way her choice was going to be well informed, or respected in any regard. The fireflies see her as organic material, with only (maybe) Marlene giving a shit about her as a person. Joel sees her as his daughter, and a child, and no way was he going to let a child (his child) make that choice. It's ultimately down to what you think about morality. It's the trolley problem, and that shits hard, so people look towards other ways to justify the choice(s). I'm team Joel personally, and that's because I love their relationship, and feel that that is more important than the fireflies attempts at a cure. That's the end all be all, and not many want to just come out, and say that. Just the same with the opposite. That's just what I think of course lol. Damn this game is a rabbit hole.

[@SupaTuffGong]

@24:14 I believe Craig Mazin and Neil Druckman have both said Part II will be two seasons.

[@someone23ful]

“If your kids are sad because they had to murder someone, take them to the zoo.” Noted. ✍🏽😂

[@Sureno0001]

I had the same reaction on seeing Laura Bailey’s name. The credits show she is one of the nurses.

[@WaketheFallen131]

what Joel did isn’t really defensible imo BUT I gotta say the fact one man basically destroyed their entire operation doesn’t really give me hope the Fireflies would have been able to effectively mass produce and distribute the cure even if it could be made.

[@TahoeNevada]

Laura Bailey is also in Critical Role, and did various voices, including one of the nurses in the first game, and was a major character, Abby in Part II. Laura Bailey reprised her role as a nurse.

[@datboidego]

What a hell of a show 10/10

[@Stolkmen]

Laura Bailey was one of the nurses. I didn't realize it at the time. So cool to rewatch it and see her.

[@dbzfreak60]

This was a very emotional first season