The Legacy of the Paladin

The 2nd in our series exploring the history of the WoW classes, throughout the game,
the Paladin has been a required face amongst any situation. Such a crucial class.
Check out Scottw's channel here / scottw1337

[@Alvadar65]

Man, this Legacy series is now a legacy

[@samtemdo8]

I'm still waiting for Legacy of Catacylsm and Death Knights....

[@nebulakh5739]

@@samtemdo8 preach quit WoW content recently ... will probably never come :(

[@bakvaz]

@@nebulakh5739 he said he would continue the legacy series.

[@BiIboSwaggins]

@@bakvaz Where? Can you link it?

[@chalupamatej]

@@bakvaz He's been saying "New Legacy coming soon guys" since 2018...

[@carolasmx2516]

"who in their right mind looks forward to the plaguelands?" I did... :(

[@GySgtHartman1]

carolasmx my favourite zones are the plaguelands^^

[@carolasmx2516]

yeah especially when the original Naxxramas came. I thought it was the coolest thing.

[@iandrsaurri625]

carolasmx Best 2 zones ever

[@TheDeathCrafter]

carolasmx I do too xD

[@mindlesssheepthing2662]

+carolasmx If you played wc3 before wow, I couldn't blame you. The place is saturated in lore.

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

He really forgets to mention the start of Wotlk, Paladin's became gods, the only ones able to spar with the new DK's. Retri's back then, could hardly die, always proccing a free flash of light, and the more the merrier, with Divine Storm, hitting like a 1 target spell, but with aoe damage that also healed you. Perhaps the strongest dps(at the time), with plate gear and a free heal almost always ready, the only ones who could really combat the never dying and lifestealing DK. The Wotlk expansion really did introduce the fight between the DK and Paladin on a grand scale. And in the short interval before the release of wotlk, with the new talents, they were unrivaled. Lvling and killing foes was child's play for a time.

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

Ahh, another one who remembers those days ;D. I had a DK and Pala in top lvl back then, I could faceroll entire groups and then rofl-stomp each and everyone that came back. It was so easy it was absurd, especially on my 60 twink pala, that one was even more fucked up.

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

***** Never had exactly that situation. But I did get to beat up 2 others 5 lvls above me, at the same time.

[@shawnprasad693]

The good old days seeing my glorious pink bar top dps in raids. It was such a good feeling since i was used too being at the bottom.

[@TheROCKCANTDIE]

rem that too haha, and yeah when cata talents came then... holy shit most faceroll class ever seen on WOW was there for a few weeks

[@415Meta]

Haha this. This was the first time I decided to respec out of holy since the launch of the game and even in epics I got from kara and a few blues I was almost unkillable (talking about the pre wotlk patch)

[@FreakyGremlinDK]

I miss the Auras. They were so unique to Paladins. That was what made them special

[@rexise1989]

Agreed and can't you remember sacrifice? Where a paladin would sacrifice himself for a raid or party member to survive and Res everyone. No idea why they removed that

[@CeasareBorgiaSuX]

+Mr Raptor They really remade Paladins too many times...... at 70 they were like warriors with a few spells and healing then after that they went to full spell fighters. Hard to imagine it started off at 60 literally as a one spec class!

[@FreakyGremlinDK]

Exhale Chemtrail What? they used to have only one spec?

[@CeasareBorgiaSuX]

Naw I just mean for raiding the other two literally did not work. Well unless you count dungeons and quests lol

[@evanmcauley4788]

+Mr Raptor i miss using crusader aura to chase down horde lol

[@Preachgaming]

The Paladin class was too large to focus on pvp for this video, I would like to revisit their pvp history at some point in the future

[@neithskye]

When TBC came out, I saw the Blood Elves and thought "What are those ridiculous things?" I made a BE Paladin for what I thought was going to be some short-lived fun. That Paladin is still my main, and most beloved WoW character ever. (wipes away tear)

[@tsoa04]

"When the wings pop, you know you're in trouble" Unless you're up against an offensive dispeller.

[@CaptPonyholder]

Been playing the game since launch. Never noticed that the Judgement icon is that of a hammer and after images. I always thought it was some sort of wheel.

[@kernel2006]

Me too. Always thought it was a wagon wheel even though, in retrospect, that doesn't make any sense.

[@SCWIC]

Oh my god sameee

[@randomguys2]

Talk about mind fucking blown. I've mained paladin since launch and your comment is the reason I now know this. What the fuck.

[@TheMMObro]

Claus Grimhildr same lol

[@kaptensol]

me2

[@beastntenn]

Man an update to this series would be 🔥🔥

[@Flirt136]

For all of you guys asking about the name of the soundtrack at 00:55. It is called ''Seasons Of War''

[@Xaelyrion]

I've watched this video many times, but never at 11:00 did I notice that the ret clicks his trinket, then clicks his wings, then clicks his haste pot in his bags , and then finally 5 seconds after popping wings is another global CD used. Absolute beast.

[@Forbzyful]

I'll never forget ret just after the pre WotLK patch. Being that op for a short time was bliss.

[@555hugs]

That period where you could pop bubble and wings at the same time with no damage penalty.. don't know how that was ever allowed to happen lol

[@bearj.4363]

I've been ret since patch 1.12 until current (6.2). I've only dabbled in holy and prot (tanked a little 25 man naxx in WOTLK and healed a little bit in TBC). Man, this video doesnt even scratch the surface of all the challenges and changes Ret went through.

[@johnnyvain544]

damn...that UI at 3:40 how the hell can that guy even enjoy the game with his screen full of shit like that. its like a computer infested with spyware/adware and pop ups out the ass.

[@ithila6712]

Amen. allelulia.

[@LewisLecture]

Agree'd but that was buffing and seal switching backt hen haha

[@ploppman7524]

That is the UI of someone who is not afraid of standing in fire.

[@Harpazo_to_Yeshua]

He's a paladin. He's sacrificing his viewing pleasure for the good of the raid party... ;)

[@GotenSSJ1]

raiding at the cutting edge wasn't for fun, it was for progress

[@ToxicStudiosSWE]

Anyone else here thats rewatching these after everything that has happened and missing these times?

[@shawnprasad693]

I remember starting WoW and picking a paladin during TBC and looking at my talents and watching as i got closer to crusader strike thinking that leveling would become a complete joke once i got that spell.

[@WillardFoxton]

The 5 min on Pally buffs in Vanilla was a NIGHTMARE, with 40 man raids.

[@Camino377]

I rolled my Paladin back in TBC, and have played him ever since. I loved having to communicate which Auras were needed, who would give each class what blessing, and balancing seals between the group. It was such a dynamic class to play, it kept your interest mid-combat, something that has been lost in Cata and MoP. Now it seems Blizzard wanted to try and make us a healing warrior-rogue hybrid and ruined the old appeal of the class. Now when I log on, I don't feel like I really do anything special for the group, especially considering 2 other classes can do my exact buffs, and my seals only really benefit me. Late TBC paladin was, in my opinion, the most enjoyable time to play a paladin. I had a lot of fun in PVP Wrath, but it was just kind of a face-roll fest. TBC, not only did it feel like we had a roll to fill, but it felt like we had our own playstyle. Playing a Paladin didn't feel like playing any other class. Those are the days I miss.

[@johnm188]

As a Paladin playing since the release of WoW, this brought back a lot of memories. Great vid.

[@Draak_en]

03:18 Good God... that UI

[@SimonSalmon]

If you ever played healer you know we are not looking at what is going on anyway! :P

[@Wellshem]

@@SimonSalmon excuse me ?

[@SimonSalmon]

@@Wellshem Healers job is to look at health bars not boss battles and you know it! So now step out of the fire! :)

[@Wellshem]

@@SimonSalmon late answer but with that UI, the healer itself will stand in fire

[@SimonSalmon]

@@Wellshem Well looking back at this I was not completely serious. I know the UI is awful and no one in his right mind would use it what I meant more to say it doesn't really matter, it works. He can see the health bars and do his job.

[@warcraftpanckakes]

i played a paladin in vanilla and I play a paladin on a vanilla private server now... I loved it I felt I had so much different seals to use and I could change them a lot in a fight to make it do different things... I loved it and still do

[@markmayfield2228]

Everyone asking for a particular seal for them. It got so that as soon as I popped into an instance, I knew what each class needed. Good times.

[@SteaksOnSpear]

Paladins had that one patch in 3.3.1. Stack stamina spec prot, you could get around 50k hp, do 20k heals and judgement for 10k. It was so messed up, you could 1v3 skilled players in a legit fight. IT was so overpowered.. but quickly fixed.

[@derekblankenship8970]

What a time

[@otone7seven]

Watching this after leveling and reading as a Paladin in classic. Never played one in vanilla. Watching this video back. Spot on in everything

[@Gurtington]

we want legacy of the shaman please :(

[@198sambrrs]

you meant druid I think

[@tebk6587]

fuck druid

[@BiIboSwaggins]

Shame the next one is about Death knights then.

[@DagothDaddy]

Gurtington it will be a 5 second video "Once upon a time Blizz made shamans and they were OP the end "

[@silverwolf1766]

Gurtington been a long ass time since he done a legacy video and the priest legacy video wasn't that good..

[@Augustinusgrimdalus]

We need more of this, legacy of the Warlock please.

[@toadsonytwo]

YESSS My favorite toon has always been my warlock.

[@DickMystery]

LEGACY OF THE WARLOCK Please! Warlocks are so interesting and have been bouncing between unkillable god and wet paper since Vanilla.

[@rachael3533]

In case you didnt k ow he did

[@rowanmoffitt858]

A moment of silence for Hayven Games...

[@evgeni661]

Those were the times Preach. I've lots of fun watching you and Ghosty on stream and even though I play rarely I still come back to watch and have some good memories! Cheers!

[@Xarca]

Despite blizz putting so much effort into pallys ret is still one of the most unstable classes in the game. That meaning it's the most commonly changing spec or close to it.

[@MattWeismiller1994]

+Nikolai Anzuoni What do you mean by unstable? You probably mean the RNG damage. Ret paladins are pretty rng low-high melee damage. If you look at statistics on Warcraftlogs for Mythic 99% percentile, ret's percentile range is 3-67% (i.e., that's a 64% variation between pulls). But I believe ret pallys have been this way since Cataclysm. Ret's are an opener burst damage class, and what makes a very good ret is having a perfect rotation to not lose that much dps in between bursts. If you want a more stable melee spec, Rogue's and Dk's are probably better for you.

[@Xarca]

Matt Weismiller I mean blizzard can't seem to decide what they want from them. They seem to drastically change every single expansion. And if the spell names don't what they do does.

[@MattWeismiller1994]

Nikolai Anzuoni They buff and nerf every single spec in the game, but Ret's are on the lower side of reliability. They're still not the worst. But the worst spec for a mythic parsing player is an Arcane mage because the difference is from 3-86%. I also feel like better and bad is relative. Since it depends on what you're going for in the game. I am not a 99% parsing, MYTHIC, ret paladin but ret's arent that bad. They're simply middle of the pack dps.

[@Xarca]

Matt Weismiller Never anywhere in here have I said anything about ret being bad. I just don't like how it changes every single expansion.

[@DylanButler1]

+Nikolai Anzuoni "Effort"? "Hey lets make paladins the most op class of all time in Cata, JUST so they know we "care" about pallys :DD, okay next patch.... Give ferals 1 million dmg..." ~ Blizzard 2010

[@pengiun1]

For someone like me that didn't start palying WoW until Cata videos like these are cool and very fun to watch.

[@loltesnexus]

Vanilla Retribution actually rocked immensly if you knew what you were doing, but as you said everyone was a baddy so they didn't know how to use it.

[@LegoOutbreak]

Your videos make me think back to when I first started. Thank you. It feels great to relive the old days.

[@RosinGoblin]

I am in love with my protection paladin. I don't enjoy playing other classes.

[@Y.Moroboshi]

Thanks for taking me down memory lane. A couple of comments: TBC: From what I recall, ret was token in Sunwell because you only needed one for Sanctity Aura (+2% damage to the raid). You had individuals trying to convince the world ret was worthwhile and getting lolled at by raiding guilds. The top guild in the world at the time Sunwell came out even wrote something on why they didn't take rets to raids, and why that changed from 0 rets to one (1) ret for Brutallus. WotLK: This was the true moment of reckoning for Ret, between ret smashing faces at the expansion's launch (after being lolret through two whole batches of content) and being solid DPS with utility until the end of the expansion. I'll admit I preferred the original design pre-Ulduar where Ret was preferred for Judgment of Light since amount healed was determined by your attack power, and Ret had Holy and Prot beat in that department. Cata: I never rolled a rogue because I didn't like combo points and Slice'n'Dice, and Blizz went and took a hammer to my favorite spec, then turned it into a pseudo rogue through Holy Power and Inquisition. I still argue Guardian of Ancient Kings doesn't fit the Warcraft paladin concept (for one because Warcraft paladins can't summon things).

[@HamCubes]

This legacy series is outstanding, dude! Superb.

[@itskhro]

"Probably not the monks just yet" And yet before Shaman, Deathknight, Priest, Hunter, and Druid.

[@Syt96]

I know Uther also inspired alot of people to play Paladins including me.

[@antipathy17]

I really like your videos. I started playing in nov 2005 but finally got my own account may 2006. I really enjoyed vanilla, bugs and all. I miss the community and the style of play. Thanks for the blast to the past, It meant a lot to me.

[@Frozen_Death_Knight]

You forgot to mention that when the Wrath of the Lich King patch launched, Retribution Paladins were the second most overpowered class in the game besides Death Knights. During a couple of weeks Ret could kill pretty much anything and anyone. Heck, I even recall being able to solo a lvl 70 Rogue who had epics... As a lvl 67 Paladin. To say that the damage was through the roof is an understatement. Blizzard was forced to nerf them, but it was not enough to stop them from dominating in Arenas during the single most unbalanced PvP season the game has ever had: season 5. Paladins and Death Knights were completely ridiculous and Ret will likely never be as powerful as they were at that point in time.

[@ragnarokda206]

I remember. They were gross as fuck.

[@zeitxgeist]

Hahah remember when Wrath prepatch hit? Zone into WSG aaaaaaaaaand it's 10 rets. /leave group

[@ragnarokda206]

zeitxgeist Felt that way in pre patch for legion too with locks. You just knew nothing fun was going to happen that game... lol

[@TheHorreK2]

already 3 years old and 2 expansions before.... kind of scary how fast time goes by

[@Gyroglle]

The entire time that UI was on screen I just kept looking at it and laughing. Had to watch it again, and then I did the same thing.

[@otsin2982]

You'r videos are like meditation to me man, I watch them and rewatch them again and again.

[@tom-sr1wt]

Once I went into ICC, and everything went good...and when we get to the queeen, first spell I cast on her was that Judgement of Light or how its called (the healing judgement) and I was number one in healing done ... like I had twice as much as the second healer under me, and the funny thing is I was retri

[@robalton4499]

Hey Preach, this is my favorite series on the internet. No lie. Please keep the legacy video's coming.

[@88oscuro]

Did I miss or didn't you mention Shockadin?

[@88oscuro]

pff... I guess you never got to play it then. And yes I believe it is worth to mention, whatever it was on purpose or not.

[@88oscuro]

deenman23 I can see what that comes from. I just feel that it was such a unique thing that it at least deserved an honorable mention, but nvm I just feel like I am draging this on and making people upset.

[@88oscuro]

deenman23 Blizzard yes, but was talking about this video. Sorry for the confusion

[@rhaegoti]

Would love to see you continue this series into current content. This was an absolute joy to watch :)

[@War3pl]

Blessings at lunch lasted 5 mins, meaning in MC they were constantly recasting blessings only if there were

[@XBUGMANX]

BRB Taco Bell, Ahhh I miss those days, Trash was endless, you'd go to taco bell and come back and still in the game lol.

[@andrewlong9799]

Krzysztof Winiarczyk Okay, that was lunch though. How did dinner preform?

[@Potatobrains_]

Preach, you should really think about doing more of these legacy videos, I enjoy them immensely and I'm sure I'm not alone.

[@AKARazorback]

However you slice it though ... content in Vanilla was AWESOME. End game 5-mans, Raids, all of it was AWESOME, right? Who's with me?! :D

[@blyjd91]

The instances and raids were fun, though the classes wern't really finished. You had no free will to choose whatever spec you wanted to play. TBC is when the got things right and you could suddenly play everything.

[@Targa7W]

PvP was awesome in WoW till it was ruined by the PvP rewards and instances. Open world PvP just for fun ruled.

[@AKARazorback]

Yeah man, DIGITAL HIGH FIVE. Feel you there man ... I still remember "battle grounds" surfaced and drove real pvp, real video's and real skill into the ground. Too bad! Was a great time before that, fighting with the whole server in the westhill foothills, right?! Haha that shit was good. Everyone joined in, all levels, classes - MAYHEM!

[@Targa7W]

AKARazorback Tarren Mill for the Horde, everything you said and MOAR :)

[@AKARazorback]

Aaah Tarren Mill, yeah man haha I was looking for that name haha sick, those were some awesome times. I wonder how much blizzard could make if they just made 1 Vanilla server with the slightest balance tweaks... I and a lot of my former allies would jump in straight away im sure :) I might just pick WoD up though and focus more on the pve. Not sure.

[@Iceslanger]

Preach. I tend to check your channel frequently for new vids of any sort cuz you are fun to watch and easy to listen to. Just wanted to let you know that you do a flatout fantastic job on these videos. It is really neat to see this kind of stuff.

[@Vrinara]

I've played a paladin from late bc, and I will forever be a ret pally! FOR THE LIGHT!

[@hoboswagginz4782]

Aurora Nightheart - Moonguard US did u know that we took Jerusalem

[@Massanito]

How i miss vanilla, watching these videos, was a pain to do anything but still miss it

[@angrymarine7974]

3:18 What in the fuck...? How can you even find yourself in that mess!?

[@あよぎあ六花]

you cant

[@BarkusLP]

+Félix Lagüe-Lalonde I loled

[@dannyhudlum1283]

+Félix Lagüe-Lalonde Group oriented healing... ( forced to focus on 1 or 2 groups and / or tanks ) mostly you were focussing on the tanks and healing your own group ( 1 healer per group minimum back in those days )

[@OmegaShanic]

Why would you need to find yourself? In Vanilla, there was not an overuse of "don't stand in fire" mechanics. You didn't need to see where your character was or what he was doing, especially as a healer. You needed to see the health bars of the rest of your raid. That said, that was also MY UI in early Wrath, specifically Naxxramas, as an officer to call out when things were happening. The short version is it's the absolute default, nothing adjusted - everything is bigger in the UI and it has to be toned down. Combined with a small monitor (that resolution is 1024 x 768, see it all the time on my laptop) and all the bars and buttons at their default settings and...yeah. You can't f'ing see. When I fixed mine, the biggest change I made was lowering the size of all the crap on screen. Imagine all the buttons on that screen at even half their size.

[@WoWjunkie005]

If humans actually looked like the art at 01:04 I'd re roll so damn fast.

[@hansey1995]

Not even mentioning the bubble!? or the powerful shockadin.. Well of course it is PvP things but still worth mentioning in my opinion.. It's a pretty good series you got going. Keep it up! ;)

[@henriqueklein5403]

Hans Müller I dont think he played as a pally for a long time. I remember that in WotLk pallies and DKs were a must, in all specs. There was a famous talent build in TBC that was half holly and half retri

[@highlordsilverhand1228]

After years I had to come back to this video !!

[@DocDewrill]

he forgott about the 2 days of Justice. a wednesday/Thursday adventure never seen again. shotrly after BC poped in, not many horde players got their paly highlevel. but the alliance did, and these 2 days were devistating for the Horde. the day Pallys did pure magical damage with every spell. the spells buffed eachother so that a Pally was able (no shitting i was there in this time) to hold back a WHOLE alterac Horde-army! i member this time, sitting there on the bridge at the ally camp, with oen of my 3v3 arena friends, the third oenw as on his lonlyx road to solo drek'tar because, why the heck not!. so we stand there.. the army of Horde running up to us and all we did was.... Spellspamming. and i tell you guys: the horde wasnt able to get thru us. these 2 days i gathered the whole Arenaset. in 2 friggin days. win after win, it was heroic!

[@Sneakytoke]

the only time i ever really played a pally was towards the end of the Cataclysm expansion, and I was a healer. I just remember being able to singlehandedly heal the whole raid with my AOE heals without really trying. Loved it XD

[@ultramarine218]

Holy shit. That UI in the first Wrath clip is fucking awesome. I want it. What's the name of it and is it still being updated? Anyone?

[@ultramarine218]

Nevermind. Found it. Wasn't too hard.

[@SporeTres]

Imperial Ace And the MC UI is what I use today! haha!

[@pprgss]

thanks for making this vid man, never got to play WoW back in Vanilla so its nice to see my fav class through the years

[@addikt]

Through love and hate, I played a Paladin from Vanilla through to WotLK. One thing that wasn't mentioned in the video was that Paladins were always one of the most gear-dependent classes in the game. Ret was viable since Vanilla, it's just that it had a high minimum gear requirement. I remember finally getting a Zin'rokh from ZG, immediately specing Ret, and the total ass-ton damage I was doing in raids, BGs, and skirmishes out in front of Tarren Mill. But, inevitably, playing a Paladin was hard. The stigma associated with Prot and Ret was nearly impossible to escape, and most of the time you were stuck healing. Occasionally you would spec Ret for PvP, but had to be pretty committed to amass a completely separate gear set suited for the purpose. And then patch 3.0.2 released, and it was finally time to put all of that off-spec arena gear to good use. This was about a month prior to the actual release date of WotLK and Paladins were in a state that can only be described as "broken." Seriously, no other class at the time could take on 3 players at once and utterly crush them, but a Paladin could. The class had clearly been tested to ensure that it was viable for WotLK content, but not its impact prior to Northrend being made available. The other class forums lit up with vitriol, and Blizzard eventually imposed some big nerfs, but to their credit, left the class in a manageable state. Finally Ret was a viable DPS spec, and so I had a lot of fun in WotLK. I skipped Cata as I was focusing on career now, but returned for MoP for a short while. By then I couldn't put enough time in that the game required, half of the people I'd met had quit, and I couldn't get into a raiding guild. Also, Holy Power had since been introduced, and I'd previously played a rogue in Vanilla for all of 30 minutes before realizing that the whole combo point mechanic just wasn't for me. Really, Paladins have always offered something that most other classes couldn't, true spec variety. What other class, aside from maybe a Druid, could heal, tank, and do damage? But, again, the downside was the massive time commitment required to gear up, sometimes boring play style, and an often type-cast healing role. To this day, I will never forget how much time I spent in Un'goro Crater farming living essences to craft a Hide of the Wild. With WoW Classic coming up, I was thinking about switching, but frankly...to what? In fact, I'm curious to see how far I can progress with a much more constrained time commitment. I say 50/50, but it'll be an interesting experiment.

[@WarGamerGirl]

This is an interesting view point from (what seems to be) a prominently Horde player. In Vanilla WoW, Paladins brought 2 things to a raid that Horde coveted: Blessing of Salvation and Blessing of Kings. PVP however was a TOTALY different story.

[@HatsonFGC]

Paladins in Vanilla PvP were crazy good. Holy that is. Being the only PLATE healers. As well as all the immunities, CC and buffs they brought. Bubbles, Hand of Freedoms, highest critical chance heals, salvation, and hammer of justice. - Those alone made them kings at organized PvP. Be it World PvP or BGs. In WSG they were simply unrivalled by any other healer.

[@nickbrowne96]

***** Shaman countered Paladin in Vanilla pvp every time, though. Enhancement was arguably the best dps class/spec at the time. For every heal a Paladin could cast, a Shaman could interrupt with earth shock and do damage. Not to mention that bubble was removed with purge and a Shaman's damage was better than a ret paladins. People also forget that Shaman was a viable tanking class, as well. Mace/shield with rockbiter.

[@WarGamerGirl]

***** You must have some rose tinted goggles that you're looking through. I played a Holy paladin in PVP throughout all of Vanilla. Hell, even leveled as Holy. Blessing of Protection was purgeable (hell, all our Blessings and Seals were purgeable) and Hammer of Justice was on a 60 second cool down. The only dependable "bubble" we had was on a 5 min cooldown (Divine Shield). And "highest critical chance heals"? Our 1.5 sec heal, Flash of Light, healed for what a Shaman and Priest's 1.5 sec heal did at lvl40. When it would crit, it would actually heal for what the lvl60 classes healed for without a crit. Holy Light was our 2.5 sec heal and it was interrupted most of the time. Not to mention, when a player was Focus Fired, 2.5 seconds was too long of a cast time. They were usually dead. Not to mention paladins had no HoT no Instant cast heal (Holy Shock didn't heal in Vanilla and Lay on Hands had a 1 hour cooldown) and no group heal. Priest/Druid/Shaman was a better healer than a Paladin in PVP. The only reason Paladins were relied on in PVP was because Shaman had a spamable Purge that would render the other Alliance healers weaker. Horde didn't have this problem.

[@ZanathKariashi]

WarGamerGirl Holy shock ALWAYS healed (the only change was that originally the damage dealt was half the amount healed, until mid-vanilla where it was buffed to be equal to the amount healed). That was the point. It was an instant heal that could also be used as an attack. And pvp support holy was usually spec'd deep enough into prot to get the 50% CD reduction on HoJ (not to mention talent that reduced the cd on bubble and BoP by half)).

[@PollypallyCerealKila]

***** In vanilla you couldn't get honor from healing so nobody did it.

[@raulgonzalez-lp2fi]

you should put this to date man, I love this series. Keep the good work.

[@retpaladinproduction]

I like how nothing was mentioned about serious rbg groups completely denying holy or ret paladins over 2.2k rating. I wish he would sit on darkspear trade and listen to why neither are viable mop was most certainly not good to paladins in my opinion.

[@JBurky15]

The reason I don't miss vanilla. It took me way longer than my friends to level up because I chose to play a pally first off and didn't want to create a new character until I was level 60. But TBC and Wrath were just an absolutely amazing time to be a paladin. I do truly miss those days. I'll take my rose-tinted glasses off now.

[@Holland1994D]

And now in 2019 I am doing all of this :D

[@Flourish38]

Judgement!! Seal! Wait... wait... wait... JUDGEMENT!! At least I can pull 3 equal-level mobs without dying. BoP ftw

[@Holland1994D]

@@Flourish38 I like playing auto attack simulator

[@Holland1994D]

@@Flourish38 Seal of the Command ofc, with seal of the crusdar to seal switch. + Some weapon switching and you are doing fine as RET leveling.

[@kimserne]

Sitting here 4 years later, still waiting for more legacy videos

[@faucillon]

First gen paladin = best gen paladin. They called us retadin but nevertheless i was an undying GOD who was top dmg in every party i joined... People simple didn't know how to play retribution paladins because they didn't have 1 rotation. I'll never forget the moment where i got attacked in stranglethorn with my pala by a mob who was red to me... as i was doing my best not to die whilst killing it there was an enemy warrior spectating the fight. /applaud and stuff like that b4 he finally killed the mob out of respect for my fight. He then /bow and left me in piece even though he could kill me in 1 autohit. :p

[@hunterosborne9124]

Thank you mike and andy. This series is very important with the upcoming paid beta for classic wow.

[@elspoko]

I rolled a ret pally during Wrath. I was Jesus. As prot, I was god.

[@aaronjoterry]

Ret during Wrath was intense

[@elspoko]

Aaron Terry After I got my Shadowmourne, the guild had me tanking as ret because no one could take aggro from me. It was godlike.

[@rex7on]

Spock I have seen rets killing clothies in less than 3 seconds.

[@hoboswagginz4782]

Rets only enemy was the threat meter for ao long

[@apisDei]

Jesus is God though

[@jjstraka1982]

Please, please revive the class legacy series for their counterparts on the otherside, the Shaman.

[@jjd-lx5vr]

i've been leaving a "please do a Legacy of the Druid" comment on his legacy videos since 2013 , he's come back to do some Legacy of WoW videos recently so i'm holding out a small hope he'll finish off the classes ... and then redo videos like this

[@C3aaj]

More of these Mike! Watched the Rogue video as well, amazing. Love your videos!

[@scrubjeb7850]

in late cata remember when denouncw one shot people

[@Masonater01]

Lets forget about that era.....

[@why3011]

Are you guys forgetting about Holy Shock? LONG LIVE THE SHOCKADIN!

[@sylv8639]

so ready for more legacy videos, theyre my favourite!!!

[@krumb520]

Holy radiance was amazing until blizz went and fucked it up.

[@Artemisthemp]

This video makes me remember all the cool stuff and why I miss TBC healing

[@TenecoGaming]

DK next please, just 3 expacs to cover so won't take too long.

[@RedRagedRooster]

Thats why DKs wont be coverd, They have no true legacy.

[@xXjettimonXx]

They don't have a game legacy, but us Dk are evolving into the new lich kings. Prepare yourselves mortal fools!

[@Septicus_7]

Jettimon *casts defile*

[@xXjettimonXx]

Head Kicka *casts misery of heroic icc raiders*

[@XXXmarquise]

Death Knights didn't really change that much anyways from CATA to MoP

[@0xBULLgogi]

i sure do miss that shaman and paladin were faction specific though, made it unique to each respective factions and much more fun in this world. And i also miss the fact that each character kind of had its own unique roles and skills, now everything is kind of a mixed pot with everyone class with CC and such. Wow... WoW got retarded for casual players

[@DriftNick]

every class now has more spells, more utility and have to manage cooldowns, spell procs and trinket procs making the skill cap much higher then it ever was at 60 or 70 but yea its been retarded for casuals...

[@timpogrebiski6914]

equoowe before only 20% or less got best loot now its 99%. PvP is harder now but PvE was harder before.

[@DriftNick]

Tim Pogrebiski 99% of the people get full heroic gear? no that isn't true at all, 99% might get LFR gear but its far from good gear, raids at 60 and 70 compared to now aren't hard, most had few mechanics and basic mechanics plus every class being so simple means doing mechanics was easier.

[@politicallycorrectredskin796]

equoowe But you didn`t have addons so the raid intelligence was much lower. I was noobish in vanilla and didn`t even know what addons were, but I recently played a private vanilla x1 server to try it out and see the difference, and even with all the addons I could find I basically had to relearn the class I was playing. At least healing with and without addons are two entirely different things, and you just can`t play the same way. Also the mechanics were simpler, I`ll give you that. But they were also more brutal. Go do Chromaggus in BWL with no addons and the sort of shit gear you`re likely to have because MC bosses drop 2 pieces of gear for a 40 man raid and tell me it`s easy. I dare you! And even then you`re pretending the conveniraids are the only thing that matter in the game. But absolutely everything else has been nerfed. Go on, mention one single thing in WoW that hasn`t been nerfed at least one, usually multiple times! I double dare you!

[@XXXmarquise]

I know right it seems stupid to have Tauren as paladins in my opinion...they are more for nature then light.

[@bowman1248]

It's interesting watching this series as someone who mained a pally through Classic Vanilla and TBC. On one hand I feel like it is completely backwards but on the other completely spot on. Clearly they were a broken unfinished class back in the day that had hidden holes which lead to fantastic power but I would not say it is game breaking. I watched this video prior to Classic and now post classic both times a great watch

[@n0k1_54]

Blizzard love Paladin.. lol Community loved them and blizzard forced to make them viable. Blizzard officers have more than once said that they prefer Warriors. The name loladin came from the love i guess..

[@rickybindahoose6193]

Loladin came from jealous Warriors, like yourself ;)

[@AngelaRichter65]

I played a Healadin from BC on. She was my favorite toon to run through Naxx back in the day.

[@Overdoseplus]

warlock please:D?

[@morbidangel47]

This is fantastically narrated. Your videos are awesome.

[@demonpride1975]

yes the horde so envied the alliance cause they had paladins. sorry i would have preferred the severely op shamans at the time.

[@elbloncomagnifico]

Best thing about being a pally in vanilla was there were way to few on my server. And since i was competent i got into every raid.

[@Ragnaririt]

Level 82 Tauren Paladin FOR THE HORDE!

[@Prophecy126]

stfu.

[@Dr.Barber]

lvl 90 Dwarf Retribution Paladin... get on my level

[@blackrockftw]

***** Level 90 Blood Elf Paladin 563 holy, 552 retribution, 512 holy pvp. 610 Enchanting / 600 Engineering. 17560 Achievement points. Is that on your level? Lok'tar Ogar!

[@Dr.Barber]

blackrockftw come at me yah lady boy Blef!

[@blackrockftw]

I'm a healer not a killer, I'd send my hunter friend in with is rape whistle. :D

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

"Not Easily!" the biggest understatement of all times!

[@synns6898]

I absolutely loved my ret pala in wotlk, when they changed the whole mechanics in cata I quit wow, they ruined my favorite spec.

[@nikkis.2066]

Ahhhhhh the nostalgia and memories of WoW thru the ages :D! I played a Druid all throughout Vanilla, played half of BC and Druid and made me first ever main switch to Warlock. Come WOTLK I rerolled Death Knight and Hunter and absolutely loved it! With Cata stuck with both and added in Shaman for healing :p Mists of Pandaria I stuck it out, but with WOD I have so many characters and classes xP! Def alting a Prot Paladin for some fun and beautiful Transmog options :3!

[@Smurfen249]

EP was my favorite place to level as a paladin

as a player for all these years i always rolled pally and warr and had much fun playing both ! But i am very excited regarding new expansion !

[@grammarNAZIgeneral]

ahh even tho i have put down my horde paladin to pick up an alliance unholy dk this video made me remember my paladin fondly. the love in it's design is clear and even tho blizz can realy goof sometimes- one glance at the paladin shows the good-intentions.

[@Mathnapkin]

A few important points: Seal of the crusader was broken, so if you got in early enough, your auto-attack grinding was actually EXTREMELY fast (it was supposed to increase attack speed and decrease damage per swing, but it was actually increasing both). Paladins, although almost completely without tank utility had seal of justice, which when judged was essentially infinite guaranteed threat (also changed somewhat early). In MC raids, you wanted as many paladins as there were unique blessings, and then they could do whatever they wanted, usually they would be ret, or just stand around. The healing revolution happened WAY before naxx, I was wearing cloth and #1 guild heals in MC and into BWL far before AQ 40. The problem was that aurastone was a priest/druid weapon, and azuresong was a mage weapon, our sets were garbage and accomplished nothing, and the random pieces of cloth and leather usually were druid/priest pref. It was a dark time indeed, but paladin heals were so broken that all of the pally healers I knew were always the biggest healers with the least gear. The healing weapon from diremaul (the bubblewand) was commonplace for the dress-wearing paladin healers. Also, reck bombs in pvp is something worth mentioning, as a ret paladin with pocket heals could 1-hit kill anything as long as a dumb rogue was feeding stacks of reckoning. And thumbs up to any paladin who still has their egan's blaster.

[@robertmoore1185]

PvP ret paladins on Wrath release were a menace

[@Tijuanabill]

For every Paladin spell taken away, Preach loses more hair.

[@JMSK248]

You forgot one thing, original pally buffs didn't buff groups or classes, they buffed that player only. As a raid pally healer by the time I finished buffing all 40 players, I'd have enough time to maybe throw out 2 flashes of light before the 5 minutes were up.

[@Holland1994D]

1:36 with seal switching, weapon switching and smarter choice you can relatively okay level your paladin to lvl 60 as a RET. However using a half hybrid prot/ret build with ur shield and 1h weapon is hell.

[@kasip100]

I can't wait to see the videos for the rest of the classes!

[@jasonbowman7503]

The Warlock. I remember when when warlocks could consume their fire stone thing or buff their weapons with it. And when you consumed the spell stone you got this elaborate green oval energy shield around you. If you consumed your spell gem and sacrificed your void walker at the same time you could absorb a lot of physical and spell damage that way. I use to do ok in dueling with that. At least I'm pretty sure about the fire one. If I'm right you increased fire damage when you consumed it. It's been a long time ago though. Many players don't recall the green shield I speak of but I used it often. I went through a minor DK phase but returned to my senses that The Warlock is the coolest. I miss when their some of their temporary demons could break free and run amok. WoW seems to have wrestled with a role play aspect in the past but was never able to build on it. The idea of "character maintenance" You would have to do better then numbers or graphs to make this work, like say, don't feed your mount in days it should begin to look sick, act sick and it's stats go down and it's movement gets wonky. A sword appearing to chip, crack or rust over time would be funny, you got to main- tain that sword brah! But j.k. and those are examples of role play character maintence. The maintenance also somewhat adresses why they thought rouges should have to prepare and trin poisons, this is my theory anyhow. They never developed fully, character role play maintenance.

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

What Blizzard has always loved, are the ones holding them as a spell. Mages have pretty much never had to be down on the low. They've pretty much always been op, and probably always will be.