The Legend of Wall RETURNS!

[@alphawolf2993]

I cant imagine the excitement of having dug around the wall, getting out of the forest, only to see more walls.

[@syjiang]

The ultimate Fabian strategy practitioner

[@KylewithaK]

Julius Caesar vs Vercingetorix, 52BC colorized

[@latalata1000]

He did really just said GG and resign?

[@spartanelite2486]

Yes!!!!

[@ruknoonshadiddinder9801]

An actual underrated comment

[@julianadeau5797]

Almost straight out of Caesar's de Bello Gallico... all that was missing was the guard towers. Wall's matches are truly a pleasure to watch!

[@SchrodingerMil]

@@latalata1000 Caesar started a siege of Alesia and build walls around the city. Vercingetorix was in the city and his main armies surrounded Caesar's army, hoping to starve them out. Caesar's reserve's came in and built ANOTHER wall around Vercingetorix's main armies, making kind of a donut. Vercingetorix's (Gaul) reserves and supplies were cut off, and his reserves weren't well trained or equipped enough to bust the second wall, so the main army starved. Caesars main body held out better due to better supplies and training. The Gauls almost broke out but the walls had taken their tolls, and Caesar personally led the last of his reserves into battle. Caesar won, Vercingetorix surrendered, was sent to jail, and 6 years later was executed.

[@iforgot87872]

Gotta love the cockiness of the name “WALL.” No attempt hide the plan from anyone. Just an expectation that the plan will work anyway.

[@blazepine]

That is true mastery of your technique. when everyone knows what to expect and you still are a mighty challenge

[@cuan001]

Wall vs Fatslob showmatch would be a thing I'd pay real money to see..

[@maleorgan4915]

Agreed

[@Tovahan]

Came down to comment this too!

[@weebeedeebee]

I feel like we'd have to watch it as a season tho. hahaha

[@rmachado1987]

I dont think so, Fatslob always plays Vikings vs Vikings, and this would detract from Wall main strat of Feitoria with the Portuguese

[@Tovahan]

@@rmachado1987 not saying it would happen, just an interesting match to see

[@oxolord]

You need to cast one of these but exclusively from the point of view of the boxed in player. One of the main reasons why this works so well is that as soon as you knock down a layer, you get some vision and you realize you havnt scratched the surface!

[@realkorti]

WALL is like an onions, he has layers

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

“Fat Slob only plays on Black Forest, he can’t hurt you here.” Wall: “sup”

[@centralintelligenceagency9003]

He should change his name to "Thin Snob".

[@eccomi21]

@@centralintelligenceagency9003 their child would be fat wall

[@Livingvapour]

There’s a real historical battle during the Roman civil war where both armies spent the whole fight trying to encircle the other army in their wall fortifications. This man wall he embodies that battle lol

[@ignaciocristobal4639]

Yup, Dyrrachium

[@luis.m.yrisson]

Alesia? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alesia

[@michasokoowski6651]

@@luis.m.yrisson Siege of Alesia was another battle. During which they were attacked by enemy forces that arrived to lift the siege.

[@julianadeau5797]

And ironically, the only battle in which Pompey defeated Caesar...

[@PravinD86]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6Gneph4aMeJr7c From Kings and Generals Channel very illustrative.

[@_topikk_]

The most frustrating part was seeing one player with total map control on arena without bothering to grab relics.

[@nicolaim4275]

Well, he didn't need it.

[@_topikk_]

@@nicolaim4275 not this time, but I’ll bet his win rate with this strategy would go up considerably with that extra passive res collection. Use it to buy the hell out of stone so it’s really expensive for your opponent, if nothing else!

[@mh13mini]

that's even more terrifying... imagine he DOES take all 5 relics...

[@KC-bg1th]

Only wall.

[@Damnedfish.]

So glad that WALL fixed his internet. And refined his abilities. Thanks T90 for showing us his refined abilities. Show us more of people from across the world

[@charlesren8377]

I am from China and my grandpa told me that our ancestors learned from this guy and decided to build a great wall to defend the mongols. It worked really well until someone forgot to close a gate.

[@marquisbonilla6652]

I love China!

[@eto38581]

Turks not mongols :)

[@charlesren8377]

@@eto38581 nah mongols

[@LukeGibby]

Imagine creating Ba Sing Se around a player and then beating him....

[@ravufy]

There is no war in ba sing se

[@exen8650]

@@ravufy certainly not, with all these walls keeping us safe

[@rivermoneyg6277]

@@ravufy The earth king has invited you to Lake Laogai

[@HiopX]

just build a giant drill and defend with fire benders

[@Chubbajawa]

@@HiopX airships

[@IAmBael]

Skank Hunt is a reference to South Park. In one episode, the dad of one of the main characters is being a troll on the internet, and his online alias is Skankhunt42. Makes the name a little better, imo. 😄

[@toffeebear7133]

Troll being trolled

[@PSkullKidDnazen]

It just crept on me WALL is using late medieval 15-16 century siege tactics 1: surround the enemy 2: build battlements 3: fill battlements with siege engines 4: pummel the tihs out of the enemy from your safe spot 5: slowly creep in building more defensive positions 6: profit (?)

[@SarahExpereinceRequiem]

This is a traditional way of besieging a town or castle, you build fortifications around their fortifications and then starve them out or shoot them with canons...

[@robertaylor9218]

Yep

[@swimteamizzle1114]

T90 and explaining how feitorias work: name a more iconic duo

[@menel3]

T90 and weird farm placement

[@gonsalomon]

A trickle of resources

[@ql9066]

T90 and 3 ranges on a neutral island

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@gonsalomon remember that they take of 20 POP SPACE EACH

[@gamaxgbg]

We demand to see WALL playing as burgundians on youtube. It's for the sake of humanity

[@ADCFproductions]

i demand to see him play on Arabia xD

[@omniminokyo2]

@@ADCFproductions I demand him to play in island and wall in enemy island

[@ADCFproductions]

@@omniminokyo2 Yes! I second that!

[@markblackburn2343]

I demand to see him play as the Goths.

[@0707565]

Palaside wall

[@joshh6652]

Gerald Broflovski is Skankhunt_42! What an honor to play against him!

[@josiahhamilton1430]

I know WALL! I drink with him at the pub every second week! He's a legend.

[@XUndergroundRap]

What a mad lad. Tell him hes loved across the pond

[@TheKingOf2024]

Bring the WALLs to AoE4

[@DeepakVerma16]

You have ruined this player's strategy. Once he got matched with me, first I paused and laughed. Then sneaked a vill outside my walls. He sees first knight and resigns :D

[@johntheknight3062]

He seems like pathetic troll tbh. It's unique "strategy" but it's clearly just to annoy people. No wonder he resigned because his crap didn't work and he had nothing else to do because he couldn't troll anymore.

[@martmuld9130]

@@johntheknight3062 Ahh I see, you were blue in this certain match

[@johntheknight3062]

@@martmuld9130 Nah, I just do not like trolls.

[@ThehandleSigmawasstolenfromme]

@@johntheknight3062 So you don't like it when somebody has fun. Gotcha

[@TeeJay_D]

Imagine getting mad because you couldn't counter the WALL

[@bassegoder]

29:49 this is exactly why I love Viper and Lyx and co. videos, they just troll around so hard hahahah

[@jdkghadofgaofg]

I feel violated by hearing 1k qualifies to low elo legends.

[@_topikk_]

Legends != LEL

[@Shlonzs]

@@_topikk_ not necessarily, snippy is a legend and also our lord Daut also is a legend definitely not being low elo

[@_topikk_]

@@Shlonzs “!=“ means “does not equal”

[@windows95_de]

😂

[@CountingStars333]

@@_topikk_ ≠

[@951258tike22]

Gotta give it to Wall, by the middle of the game his mini map ALWAYS looks like an empire, which is a legitimate goal if you ask me.

[@MegaGouch]

25:03 cutting with one Onager was the down fall. I think cutting through would be the strat but with a lot more than 1 Onager and something else to back it up. If you don't break through you jus know there will be 10,000 more walls coming your way.

[@lx-icon]

I would pay good money to see T90 play WALL. Let yourself be walled in at the very start, then start playing full potential and show us how to defeat it!!

[@a.wenger3964]

The legend of Wall was the first T90 video I got recommended in the algorithm. Makes sense, what aoe2 player hasn't wanted to make this strat work before?

[@leonardo55top]

Wall has really improved his play from last video, he now even has a plan to go on the offensive, such great games lol

[@simonbolivar6960]

is like that Dunkirk "we got your surrounded" pamphlet

[@michaelkruse1404]

The Legend of Wall was my first T90 KZbin video I watched. Glad Wall is back to deliver the goods. I'd really love to see just one person beat this strat.

[@DerFliegendeMocca]

i mean, to a certain degree this strategy is amazing. 1) learn a fast build order. be fast at the beginning. 2) now split attention into two categories: a) wall-vills: build walls. focus here. this is your substitute for military. b) home-vills: focus mainly on stone 3) autopilot step 2, react to whatever you see on the other side of the wall. counter that unit with your siege workshop. 4) go feitoria and forget home-vills. no fully concentrate on wall-vills and counter-siege. i REALLY love it.

[@undefined6341]

Legend of Ace vs Legend of Wall needs to happen (also, all blue needed was just drop 2 castles, petard bust the wall)

[@bart_ender6116]

Wall is like 300 elo higher ez win

[@Pogaspm]

The walls aren't there to protect him from the enemy, they're there to protect the enemy from him

[@GamerGuy249]

People who play for fun are always so much fun to watch.

[@seiyaryuuguuin2332]

Him, fatslob, and onion are my inspirations haha

[@kashif121101]

This guy is a legend please record a bunch of his games but then upload them one by one so people can fight him not expecting this wall in strategy

[@johnsamuel6096]

The way that wall plays makes me wonder how long he took to perfect his craft.

[@d0nKsTaH]

Reminds me of when I played Settlers III (and also Settlers IV) where I used foresters to plant trees to prevent the enemy from towering certain areas... I had walls and walls of trees...

[@nickiesanx8959]

T90Official - 2021: 29:49 "Some people sits down in the evening to play, others create a masterpiece"

[@Schwarzemilch1]

I know his father, Walter Ulbricht. I think WALL has found a way to process all of this in this style of play… I hope he doesn't get this cleaning compulsion like his brother Wall-E.

[@killerchicken750]

I’ve played against him, cool guy, if he plays goths, he’s gonna do a militia like spam, if he plays berbers, he’ll lame your boars.

[@DeathEatsCurry]

If nothing else Wall has proven that any focused strategy, however janky or counterable, is better than not really having a strategy to begin with.

[@chadpilled7913]

That's actually a very good observation

[@williambarnes5023]

I fear not the man who has made 1000 walls. I fear the man who has made one wall 1000 times.

[@AwesomeCrabman]

@@williambarnes5023 well, both apply to him

[@Ben111000111]

Nice to see a *proper* LEL, that is someone known in the community for a long-term adherence to an idiosyncratic, non-META play style. A lot of what has been served up as LEL are just a random LE games that T90 found interesting enough to cast. The players may display the required element of quirkiness to become a legend, but have not built a reputation, and belong in a separate series

[@NightKnight347]

Wall makes me think of the words of Sebastian Le Prestre de Vauban: "Haste during a siege does not accelerate the conquest."

[@simonleroy9576]

Vauban was actually famous for designing star shaped fortresses that couldn't be taken down by canons because of the angle of the walls. Canonballs would slide after hitting them rather than actually piercing them. You shou loldok up Vauban style castles.

[@NightKnight347]

@@simonleroy9576 Yeah, like Bourtange is awesome and the prime example of trace Italiennes. But Vauban's offensive tactics remain in use whereas his defensive structures are obsolete. In any case, extremely interesting dude.

[@AtomicArtumas]

I've gotta say, at the lower levels, and even mid levels, this is actually a great strat IF you know how to capitalize on it. Sure, it costs resources, but it also puts the game into your hands - A competent player could wall off their enemy, triple TC boom with exclusively forward military, and if I'm correct, surprise rush into the enemy base by deleting your own walls. In faster paced, higher level, games this wouldn't work that well, but when games rarely even see combat by the 20 minute mark? You have an advanced alert if your opponent tries anything - You can hunt down whatever's outside their base and kill/destroy it so they don't know what you're doing - And then just build up for the killing blow, especially since you're practically guaranteed to have the resource advantage due to controlling literally everything outside of the enemy base. Whether you go for a quick win via a surprise rush, or a slow win via out-resourcing your opponent and defeating them via attrition, it actually puts you in a really good long-term position.

[@askthepizzaguy]

This reminds me of certain chess games I've seen. Usually, in the opening you want to develop your pieces and castle your king to safety, and open up lines of attack to the enemy king. Pushing too many pawns just makes the pawns weak targets that are easy to attack, and they can't defend your territory once they've moved past it, since they only ever move forward. So a pawn storm opening is considered weak in most examples. But in some specific examples, the pawn storm pushed back enemy pieces, closed off the center, paralyzed the enemy pawns, and denied space for the opposing army to maneuver, and the position remained closed. Then the player with more space was free to move their pieces to any side of the board and attack there at will, finding a weakness and exploiting it, while the player with less space tried to defend and couldn't move their pieces well enough to defend everywhere at once. The concept of denying your opponent space, even if they have an advantage in everything else, seems to be at work here. Blue has all the tech, all the economy, even a better army. But all of those advantages mean nothing if you can't break out and use any of it. And Wall is sitting there boxing in his opponent and destroying a technically better army, better economic buildings, better everything, simply by having ranged artillery that you can't hit back. That's it, you don't have a counter to his one move, and you're unable to move and avoid being hit by his one move. He's like a wrestler who pins you to the ground, grapples your limbs, and then starts biting you when you're absolutely helpless. Usually you'd just punch someone who is biting you, but this guy has you in a full nelson first, pinned against the ground. Chomp Chomp Chomp.

[@shino4242]

It didn't matter at that game time and with the way this game went, but once the wall was secure I think I wish WALL had gone for the relics just to continue his strategy of "slowly strangle the enemy to death" lol

[@danielhindawi5780]

After I watched that game I played a ranked match (1100 elo :/). I got arena and Portuguese against me (not WALL). This is where I got paranoid. I think I found a good counter to this if anyone interested, but what are the odds... He got to Feudal earlier and I caught 4 villagers out and lost my scout. My instinct was to vill fight him, I sent 5 villagers forward, but then I got an idea for secret villager. I sent her away and in Feudal built a secret stable, while distracting his villagers into a fight. Created scouts and upgraded them just in case, killed his villagers and got to castle age. He resigned. Thanks T90Official for the video! I would never be prepared for this without this video. If anyone interested the game is Hindawi vs CorZ (Franks vs Portuguese).

[@MardukGodSlayer]

To expand on the cries of the people, what we need is a Fatslob vs Wall BEST OF 3 showmatch. First game Arena, second game Black Forest with Fatslob settings, third game on HC4's Bypass. That's how you make epic content.

[@ekimoleksander6068]

Instead of making 10 rams he should have made a rear castle with 2 dozen petards.

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

Right around 29:00 I began quoting Blazing Saddles in my head. “Oh lawd, he despit! He despit!”

[@paulmares9815]

Imagine this: A three-way-match with FatSlob VS WALL VS OnionBro

[@Spectraevil]

I played with him, totally thrashed him lol. It was kinda annoying but I use Britons, worked on eco first the 8-10 trebs and mass elite Longbowmen. If u use Britons range properly and those epic trebs, u burst through in no time. Always keep a few cavaliers with ur mass trebs and elite Longbowmen to counter siege if needed, and scouting ahead. But Britons trebs would take out any Opponent siege from miles away, plus Longbowmen r epic

[@dislikebutton6269]

When you come to it. And you can’t go through it. And you can’t knock it down. You know that you found. The wall. *The Wall.* *THE WALL!!* Nothing on Earth can make it fall!

[@alamgir5553]

Quick question for anyone reading, if this situation is against a stables active civ, would a petarsd-bust-through-the-thinnest section and mass light cav/hussar rush clearing out wall's siege and gaining control of centre work?

[@pawel2669]

I am low elo, last game my opponent walled himself in. I onagered him from behind through the forest, his army was busy with 6 trebs attacking him front the front, and 40 swordsman trying to push through, so when about 60 fully upgraded cav units went in on his eco from behind he was not able to respond. Moment I realized he was turtling I boomed and fully upgraded units I wanted to use. Also took his gold from outside his base by dropping castle

[@themusichole540]

can we please have a tournament of LEGENDS????? I would pay real money to see it

[@Skyshadow1]

Thank the gods of games that these players exist, keep on rocking!

[@lancelotdulac6076]

Wall and Snippy are my fav legends of all time!! :)

[@garnauklaufen6704]

I think this kind of siege is quite realistic for the 17th, 18th and 19th entury era - you would just not do it with walls, bute with trenches. There should be a mod for this.

[@cherylshire1225]

I think a way to break through is that, blue can sent a villager out at the very beginning of the game, hide him until castle age and start building another town center.

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

Depending on the civ, I'd go either fast Imp, or respond to the wall by deleting a part of my own and starting a vill fight. If you can break through the wall with a few villagers early, he would have nothing to stop you. You might even go Monk and try to bait a villager forward, if only for the meme value.

[@Frost_Saber]

Onager cut around all that junk could work maybe after fast imp(just go wide)

[@GalderIncarnate]

"I might escape!" "Oh no, there's more walllsss...." LOL

[@aa-ze5cz]

The Wall is still my favorite on T90... the level or rage that must go through players experiencing that is hilarious.

[@viysohmi]

I have recently started watching all your videos just because of first Wall video! Such a legend he is and great narration by you 🙇‍♂️

[@Spetnaz23]

Well, according to what I saw from Wall, the only way to "survive" is to take down the outpost to hide what you're preparing. The central winning part on Wall Strategy is not the wall, is that he SEE everything and KNOWS what you're doing and COUNTERS what you're planning. LoS is key on Wall style, and damn he's good at what he does. Or maybe monks to convert Wall villagers could work...Or at least give him hard time.

[@Auriorium]

I don't know why I find these games so interesting.

[@mrcarterfx885]

People have weird strategies I just spectated a game where a guy was just using villagers he had nothing but villagers And was trying to tower rush in imperial age and use castles to beat the enemy but the guy figured it out and started using Calvary to wipe out his villagers and catapults to take out his buildings ...😂😂😂

[@CoolSmoovie]

WALL: They called me a madman

[@GrannySoupLadle]

He builds it like the hull of a ship. Looks fun

[@StatedOregon5]

omg, imagine this guy doing this on aoe4 where u can put units on top of the walls shooting everything.

[@paullloyd1577]

This video was a combination of hilarious content and an unbelievable amount of adverts!!! Never seen so many in my life!

[@wile123456]

There's been a disturbance in the force. There has been an awakening... Somehow, wall had returned.

[@Survivalist-of-war]

I havnt played since like 2004 but i love this channel. Wish i owned a pc and had internet at home cuz id be playing. This was epic.

[@emiliopaz8902]

I found wall in a ranked team game, he told me, he thought he was forgotten

[@jordansmith4040]

This always makes me smile. Truly a legend!

[@victorfinberg8595]

What I don't understand is, seeing how critical the attacking bombard cannons were to the strategy, why the defender didn't use his superior economy to build his own bombard cannons, but more of them. Also, building a castle, and then not defending it, seems to be just a waste of resources. A couple further tricks, that I don't think I've seen discussed. 1) If the defender wants to delete a wall section that's hidden behind an enemy wall, and he's truly unable to select it (not necessarily true), then he can build a gate into his wall. Maybe? 2) One way of getting through forests quickly is to chop the bark off a tree, drop a building onto it, cancel the building, rinse and repeat. If the villager is loaded with wood, switch to a different resource, which drops the wood, then immediately go back to wood. Sure, it takes a lot of micromanagement, but the alternative appears to be death. Is this strategy really a certain win? Perhaps the defender has to counter-wall immediately. Palisade walls across the enemy gates in dark age? A tunnel towards the enemy base?

[@iamme625]

mayan cant get bombard cannons

[@mothman8300]

Question about the strat for onager cutting, can the enemy see the dark green on the map disappear even if they don't have actual vison on that spot?

[@weirdfunnyvideos1289]

no, you cant see it but you can hear the shots

[@LPTheKiller]

The minimap looks exactly like a Koala!

[@km077]

"but didn't attack me either" Maybe because he was bussy building MORE WALLS.

[@lidlnutz]

this stuff is so fun. I don't know how these high level players can manage so many things in so many areas efficiently

[@krystofcisar469]

sarcasm? :D

[@robsonclark9678]

Practice helps a ton, just like anything complex! I remember Day9 once say playing an RTS at a high level requires the dexterity of a piano player, and the mind of a chess master.

[@MatildaHinanawi]

Should've done the 1v1 showmatches against the backseat gamers in chat. Allow them to come forth! But don't hold hold it against them. That way to get fun showmatches for free and nobody has to feel bad about it (except those willing to step up and fail).

[@ludensito]

I love this player 😂🙌🏻 please post his other strategy and the burgundians one!!!

[@fartvader84yearsago8]

Wall: Do you like some walls??? Other players: NO Wall: That's a weird way of saying yes

[@flashgordon6670]

To click your own walls to delete them when they’re blocked by enemy walls, drag the square for selecting units.

[@SenselessUsername]

I don't get why Wall lets the opponent out of their 'side door' around game minute 15? If he'd walled slightly more, there was space for one less TC and fewer buildings, and various stuff that costs him stone +attention +effort later on. The whole aim of his game is constriction, and he gave say a 50% extra breathing room?

[@tosutaa]

I've never heard of this game before but WALL is now my hero

[@HeliosExeunt]

Heroic wallpower So glad to finally see WALL do their thing completely.

[@CJ-111]

Wall vs fatslob would be the ultimate crossover 😂

[@simonnilsson1786]

imagine WALL and Ace teaming up... oh the horror, and what a good video it would be

[@mothman8300]

5:26 Heya there T_K_421 in chat

[@sagacity1071]

I think wall was an imperial gaurd commander in his past life.

[@carbon89]

Lol the minimap looked like a teddy bear

[@JR-do5cc]

“Some people game in the evenings, Other people they mastur..piece “ 🤣

[@indraallian6371]

Great game and great strat. Just to show the variety of this amazing game. GG WP WALL😎

[@Pico_444]

Wall VS Fatslob should be a paid international sensation for the history books

[@DetectiveJones]

I suck at this game so when my friend joins me well 2v1 an extreme AI with a peace treaty for a while and while thats up we both send villagers to completely wall in the enemy until the treaty expires and still barely win sometimes although to be fair were both late game people like I enjoy building a giant army and setting up cool defenses rather than sending 6 archers 5 minutes in

[@ThatOliveMrT]

Walking your opponent is always a sand in the eyes strategy. Doesn't always work but when it does you're gonna have a bad time lol

[@Endrit719]

oh yes this happened to me last week we were in a 2v2 black forest, they both had walled us and were destroying us, it makes it much worse in 2v2 I think because of the trade they had unlimited amount of cannons, they were not able to beat us but my ally forfeit after 4 hours of gameplay and then 2 on 1 was impossible for me to handle, one mistake I did is that they were not defending the walls which were surrounded by trees, we tried getting through it but we took some times with trebuches to clear the walls and then they moved their army, if instead we used petards to destroy the walls we could go in and destroy their eco

[@MatsuHiroshi]

"I do have the other one" *cut* T90 you tease!

[@battheman777]

2:21 I guess T90 doesn't watch Southpark

[@LightKnight_Age_Of]

In France, Portuguese are caricatured as wall builders. Wall doesn't disappoint.