The legendary chess battle [RoberuVsIzuru/Holostars] (EngSub)

[@kugekianimations]

It’s funny how they base it off status and the piece’s emotions. “Pawn can’t take on a queen? Maybe it’s too weak?” “Bishop doesn’t wanna die so it won’t attack?”

[@Will-nf4gr]

No Game No Life Chess

[@MultiAlerocks]

I just love how they think the prices are sentient and are trying not to die.

[@ManusiaKagakRusuh]

Maybe because Shogi has such a thing ? ... Since they're think this game works like Shogi ? ...

[@ClassicPopble]

@@ManusiaKagakRusuh Shogi doesn't, so they really figured that on their own

[@VTGN-II]

@@MultiAlerocks i mean, at least it somewhat applies to the king.

[@kurosan0079]

As someone who has played chess, this is one of the best and worst game I've ever watched lol

[@tenackfgc]

As soon as they started playing I scrolled down to see if everyone was as disappointed yet intrigued as I was. It doesn’t get better does it.

[@lilith-4687]

Same😂😂

[@AethernaLuxen]

"Maybe it wouldn't kill because it's too scared of the king behind it" _epic way of thinking son_

[@Pytskaayu]

I'm a ametuer in chess and this game is funny but painful at the same time

[@marshalljohnson6976]

IKR. I was like... "Are they really playing?" LoL

[@bushge3138]

Roberu is in the verge of Losing But he's our winning son so he made it a draw.

[@hol.blackhole8888]

dang aniki

[@Necroneer]

With their level of skills I already imagined it would come to a king vs king resulting into a draw. XD

[@sairos9192]

This can get more famous in Reddit

[@bushge3138]

You can post it On reddit. Its fine without mentioning my channel but please always mention Roberu or other member's channel

[@hol.blackhole8888]

@@bushge3138 you a tenshi

[@konfuzzzled]

Rob: *moves bishop in straight line* Izuru: "maybe it's not moving cz it doesn't wanna die?" Rob: "wow you're so clever" Why 😭😭

[@slowlylosingitaaaaaa]

this game is somehow less painful to watch then the game between a certain chicken and detective that happened recently

[@Entity172]

???

[@RavenCloak13]

entity demeat Holovlive EN. Kiara and Amelia played chess. It was bad I’m assuming.

[@slowlylosingitaaaaaa]

It was traumatizing

[@wisefelipe]

@@RavenCloak13 they knew the rules. It was still just as bad

[@rpgcross]

Izuru vs Roberu: Don't know for shit the rules, but through associating the pieces with shogi somehow ended the match in endgame in just 17 minutes Kiara vs Ame: Both have played chess before yet they never knew wtf were they doing, in the end it was a chicken fight for who's the most stupid one (Kiara lost, of course) that lasted more than half of a fucking 2 hour stream

[@AethernaLuxen]

"Maybe it couldn't kill because it's scared of the king behind it" *yeah sure, well go with that*

[@00Kalypso]

HOOW did roberu manage to make it a draw with a lone king LMAO

[@Kayalter]

That's our winning son for ya.

[@imperaviemunare7033]

@@Kayalter HECANDOIYT

[@Kayalter]

@@imperaviemunare7033 YES, WINNING SON GOT THE KZbin SUPPORT ON HIS SIDE!

[@KyubTato]

BECAUSE HE IS OUR WINNING SON

[@BBrawler101]

I've never seen these two before and when I clicked on the video I went "Oh, this'll probably be two people who are just messing around with chess." But then they said "This is probably similar to shogi, right?" and I realized they not only don't know how to play, but they *have never seen any chess games ever* and I knew this was going to be gold.

[@shion4O4]

someone commented "L vs Kira 2020" at 1:16 WHEN THEY BOTH DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO PLAY CHESS LMAO

[@ramune4578]

I'm really curious what chess players think of this lmao

[@Akendesuu]

I play chess and I am pretty much speechless 🤣

[@xlokbu2135]

I play chess and this hurts me physically

[@steveweighner]

I play chess in my free time and I'm having a migraine watching this, yet I'm interested at how they can create backstories as to why some pieces can't move to some places

[@alvinkoroth6695]

Like a 5 year old playing the game, mentaly painfull but its cute to watch

[@hachikoi2324]

Can't really tell anything since I can't really see in that POV

[@shoopdewoop3325]

This... This really hurts my brain and I can feel my IQ dropping. But I don't mind, they're funny and cute. Also, thanks for the translation man, really appreciate dem Holostars clips.

[@aSHuNa7164]

Same doe 草

[@Vandarte_translator]

ELO coeffient: *not stonks*

[@axis_tilted]

Cut them some slack, they literally don't know how to play lol

[@-Raylight]

This might be the best chest game I've ever seen xD Really interesting to see two people can't play chess try to play it for the first time I like how they created pieces' backstories why they can't go there xD At least both of the kings are alive and healthy lol

[@wisefelipe]

Newsflash: 2 baka kings go to war. Every single soldier in their countries die and the war ends in a stalemate as the two kings chase each other in the battlefield

[@soramikami4383]

I'm honestly impressed with how fast they were learning.

[@SenseiBrute]

"this is similiar to shogi" Me a chess player who have tried to play shogi and lost my mind : *Vietnam flashbacks*

[@hyde184]

Well, as for me who is a chess player and learning shogi at the same time. It's quite hard for the first time since u need to learn the kanji and movement, but u'll get used it after playing it for a while.

[@SenseiBrute]

@@hyde184 i always forgot that i could put back the shogi pieces to join my army and i always lose to bots because of it

[@hyde184]

@@SenseiBrute well, it happens sometimes. Just play it oftenly and surely u would get used to it 😂😂

[@LK_tutturu]

I learnt Mahjong in Yakuza, but shogi one look at rules and kanji I just nope out

[@SenseiBrute]

@@LK_tutturu atleast now you know how to play mahjong

[@yazhibaa7320]

I really thought Izuru was starting to understand and then he let Roberu take all his pieces lmaoooo

[@MitsukiMikka]

That solo King carry 👑 As expected of our winning son xD

[@dwiney4902]

never seen before! chess king clutch!!

[@Subberguy]

I play chess but there is no pain watching this, only joy from seeing them try to figure out how everything works. The Ame Kiara match however, pure pain.

[@trueblueclue]

Kiara: "We call that (Rook) the Tower in German" Izuru: "Drumcan"

[@TK0921]

It was wildly entertaining watching them try to figure out how to move each piece with no context other than the game telling them they couldn't do what they were trying to do.

[@PJK17]

As of 13 October 2020, this chess game has finally met its match with the Kiara and Amelia collab. Holy shit that was hard to watch. I lost 1/2 of my brain cells watching that match. 11/10 would watch again.

[@Fut_re]

This is much easier to watch because at least they genuinely don't know how to play and managed to finish in 18 minutes. On the other hand...

[@helmiboboy]

@@Fut_re I just went back watching from archive.... I don't know how they lasted for 2 *Whole* hours... Legitimately torture myself during that time XD

[@pbyn153]

WAIT A MINUTE, they are playing chess but have no idea on what they are doing and think of it as an equivalent to shogi? Sugoi!

[@raze2469]

one good thing on this game THEY DIDNT LAST FOR 1 HR

[@rpgcross]

Unlike a certain chicken and toxic detective...

[@FBread-xj8qk]

I see you experienced that torture as well

[@aeris_aeris]

the amount of times izuru could've won LMAOOO

[@lemonade3027]

I thought he drived roberu's king away from his only 1 pawn so he can go safely to the end of the board and trade it with Queen but nah 😭

[@isaakvandaalen3899]

Got about halfway through, white was completely winning, and I was like: This is gonna be a draw, isn't it. Also they actually played really well for people who literally didn't know how the pieces moved.

[@just_twen]

Let me dissect some of the misconception they made probably cause they refer to shogi pieces when playing chess. Disclaimer: I'm not a good chess or shogi player, I just know some basics. I can also be wrong in which case, I apologize. With that out of the way, here's some things to broaden the horizon regarding this clip. I'll try to explain things as simple as I can. That being said, I won't explain every pieces available in both chess and shogi. I'll just mention how they get the idea for certain piece's movements. Chess is as you all can see, the game in the clip. Shogi, on the other hand, in a glance, is quite similar to chess but it's played at a broader board, more pieces and (probably) more rules than chess. When they moved the pawn, it's the same as shogi. In shogi, you have pawns and they all move 1 step forward. The difference with chess is in shogi, the pawn can only capture what's in front of them (1:30). That's why they are shocked when Izuru's can't capture Roberu's piece when Roberu's put his piece in front of Izuru's pawn (8:15). Also in case you're wondering, chess' pawns can move 2 blocks if they haven't moved yet but shogi's pawns can't. When they moved the horse (2:31) or called knight in chess, it's similar to how you move a piece called keima in shogi. Unlike chess that can go in 8 directions, horse in shogi can only move forward (you'll see a lot of shogi pieces follow this rule of only moving forward). Probably why Izuru moved the horse to the front again and didn't know that Roberu can just take his horse with Roberu's own horse (2:45). When Izuru played around with the drumcan or known as rook in chess, he said at least it can move backward (3:03). This is also a reference to 2 pieces that quite similar in shogi which are lance and rook. Rook in shogi is just like the rook in chess though in shogi, you only have 1 rook. You only have 1 bishop as well so rook and bishop are really valuable. In shogi, they have 2 lances. Lance can move forward as much as they want like rook but can't move backwards nor sideways. That's why Izuru was relieved that it can move backward so it's a rook rather than lance. Hence you can also see that he naturally just moved the rook sideways later on (5:08). Chess' queen has no equivalent in movement in shogi. That's why Roberu and Izuru are shocked when Izuru captured Roberu's queen (4:54). They never fully explored the queen's movement as well so we didn't get to see their reaction to the insane movement queen's has compared to shogi's. The closest in shogi I'd say is gold general. It's really valuable but it can only move 1 step to all directions except diagonally backwards. Probably the reason why Roberu only tried to move his queen 1 block instead of going overboard like Izuru tho I highly doubt it. As mentioned before, shogi only has 1 bishop. Since there are 2 bishops in chess, I think they assumed the bishop moves like silver general. Silver general is a piece in shogi that can move 1 step to 5 directions. The directions are all 4 diagonals and forward. Probably why they didn't move the bishop to a long distance and Roberu tried to capture Izuru's pawn (8:44). Roberu commented that he entered Izuru's base (10:06) is also a rule in shogi called promotion. When a piece managed to get into the last 3 lines of enemy's area (the base) the piece can be flipped to reveal a (usually) much more powerful piece that has a different move they can make. Most of the pieces will be able to move like gold general after being promoted which means gold general won't be able to be promoted cause it can't have any more advanced movement. The exception to this is the rook and bishop that can be promoted into king like movement while maintaining their unique long movement of a rook and bishop. Promotion is necessary cause most pieces can only move forward and thus getting a promotion is sometimes necessary. The only exception to this promotion is when you want to keep a certain unique movement some pieces have like lances or silver generals. Note the CAN be flipped cause you get to choose whether you want to actually promote the piece or let it be what it is. Also probably why they complained about no new things the bishop can do once Roberu entered Izuru's base and tried to capture the rook (highly unlikely but you never know ;D). In shogi, you can use your opponent's pieces that you've captured. You can put it anywhere you like but if I recall correctly, freshly placed captured pieces can't be promoted the turn they returned to the battlefield. That's why Izuru tried to use his captured pieces (7:54). Also as a note, it's interesting to say that shogi can do that cause they don't use color to differentiate which piece is who's. Your pieces are the one facing your opponent. I probably missed some references but I do hope this helps you getting the rough idea where they come from. As I said before, i can be perfectly wrong as I have no way to prove what they think at the time. In any case, if you read this far, might as well learn some shogi. Or chess. Or anything really. It's your life, you spent it reading this, you can spend it anywhere else. Good luck and enjoy the rest of your day. Or night.

[@binn053]

You sound cool °¬°

[@5boxes]

They could have tried to move their pawns to the enemy base to promote them... that would have been great to see.

[@CauchyIntegralFormula]

In high school some of my friends played "bughouse" chess. It was a 2v2 game, played on two chessboards, each player was playing chess on one of the boards, and each time was white on one board and black on the other. If you captured an opponent's piece, you handed it to your partner, who could deploy it shogi-style on their board as their turn instead of moving. Your opponent and your partner had the same color pieces, sidestepping the colored pieces problem of using shogi deployment in chess. If either board had a checkmate, that was the game. It was actually real-time as well, which made for some interesting pacing scenarios

[@NiLi_]

@@CauchyIntegralFormula this sounds really interesting :D

[@norukamo]

Gonna start calling my rooks "drumcans" now

[@-kentaE]

And pegasus that cant fly

[@goodroach9984]

"I think it's similar to shogi" Me who plays Shogi and Chess: Oh no.

[@wisefelipe]

I mean, there are a lot of similarities compared to other games. But definitely not enough to play chess based on shogi

[@Ausar0]

I mean, that's not a completely wrong statement. Sure, they feel different to play, but aside from chess lacking a "drop" rule, they are very similar in concept.

[@Byakuyabou2]

30 seconds in: "This is probably similar to shogi." Oh man, that's going to be good.

[@NoOne-ds7pw]

I mean It is very similar. Rename the pieces, change their moves and numbers (not two rooks/bishops but one) add few new pieces and promotions, one extra line in formation and ability to put taken pieces back in game and thats pretty much all (even the logic of "weak but important pawns who form front line", "stronger pieces with special moves" and "one limited in movement piece that needs to be protected" is there). Its still more similar than shogi and otello or checkers plus the goal and history of game is similar (in the meaning of both simulate battle and should train strategists, also both are seen as games of intelectuals and lords). Not same in rules, but same in the thought and goal behind the games with similar design in some places.

[@xXkirudamyXx]

Both of them acting as if they just did an amazing move with every piece... I'm crying

[@Ghost26968]

What happens when a stoppable force meets a moveable object?

[@rumblepak3947]

The dynamic of this is amazing. Only being told by the game what can't be done but not knowing how the pieces can move really makes this game one of the best Chess games I've ever watched.

[@okakoro7351]

A 17 minute long clip of holostars?Thank you Bush and Roberu is too good that he calculated everything and got a draw lmao

[@sekka4480]

Pretty impressive how they caught on to some of the basic rules while playing. But damn, this hurts my head, and my stomach from laughing.

[@sebastianrivas1419]

0:36 Alright at this point I knew this will not be a normal chess battle

[@gamalielbontilao3679]

At first I was like, "Oh, wait a minute, I know this opening"......then F3 came up.

[@petraleong]

I was curious how legendary this chess match could be. I’m not disappointed

[@isopropp]

Roberu somehow manages to win at the end of every games when he was losing initially lol. A winning son, indeed.

[@zxzzx6025]

This whole stream was extremely stupid and funny as they just went into all the games without even checking the rules

[@callmefuren]

Just discovered these bois and this wasn't what I was expecting when I saw 'legendary' in the title. They are so clueless omg! made me laugh soo hard 😂😂

[@Azeren_ren]

This is why you watch the tutorial first.. www It was fun really esp I also don't know anything about chess. DRUMCAN and PEGASUS Uma ga umakatta

[@cutecup4159]

I like how they automatically assume that any non-pawn pieces are queens on steroids.

[@exaruitcruor9047]

So this how play chess without an L in your alphabet

[@zeronxepher4167]

"So how do you move the pegasus?" *"R"*

[@CunnyVirus]

they can still do "r". looks like L, but smaller

[@バボー-x3d]

This is the BEST chess game I've seen.

[@rarminqorset3628]

As someone who actually participated in a chess tournament but couldn't win anything. These 2 are awesome

[@null_100]

a draw is a kind of cinematic ending to this lol

[@ranranranranran5940]

As a person that only knows the basics of chess, I'm confused and enjoyed this at the same time.

[@kmuralikrishna1998]

Have to admit they are much better than our local detective Amelia..

[@rinwesley3092]

I need a chess pro to give a play by play of this match with accompanying commentary on moves made. It would be hilarious.

[@timothymclean]

Until now, it never occurred to me how handy legal-move indicators are for electronic chess.

[@gracecalis5421]

Anytime someone asks me what a horse is, I'll just tell them it's a pegasus that can't fly

[@crow9408]

Props to that guy who keeps translating what they said in live chat

[@ManusiaKagakRusuh]

Meanwhile in another universe Some HoloEN: try to play Shogi Japanese people: Omg how can they didn't know how to play Shogi ???

[@bonogiamboni4830]

Fuck "another universe" i want to see that in ours.

[@colinkwasnik]

After watching this one I must say it was actually really enjoyable because you could tell they were thinking hard the whole time to get a grasp on the movements and restrictions of the game, although I am comparing it to Kiara and Ame’s game... I love them both but that was a difficult match to watch LOL

[@nakedpotato9894]

I like how they pretty much figure it out at the end.

[@dsedh23]

0:27 He called a pawn "This guy in a _beret_ "

[@ManlyPicnics]

Not sure what I expected, but watching two people who have never played before try and learn while playing is fascinating

[@noiz3048]

I'm losing braincells but it's cute so I watch

[@Edzilla]

'Its like a Pegasus but it cant fly' So a horse?

[@thisrandomdude2880]

These adorable dorks made me lose half of my braincells. Kiara and Amelia made me lose the rest of them. Thank you hololive.

[@math3000]

Amelia vs. Kiara: Observe

[@kazukishinomiya9424]

My brain, oh gosh my brain

[@ArmouredProductions]

I have never seen such a worst-best chess game in my life.

[@tragedyofwind]

differnt traditional. in shogi or even chinese chess. the game end with the king being taken, so you can move the king into a square under attack. however in chess, it is illegal, so the game keep preventing them from doing it. since they can't think about anyway to let the king be taken, so they thought it has to be two king solo. LOL

[@RvM136]

Tower? No Drumcan? YES

[@alisan4858]

Watching this video made me gain confidence to play chess again, which i already gave up some ten years ago Only to be beaten brutally in so ten moves 😭 Thanks, this was a fun show 😂😂😂

[@TristanDoingGood]

Two kings stand in ruins. Their subjects lay on the battlefield, lifeless and cold as winters breath...

[@jepoyburner]

wtf was that. i was laughing the last 5 mins of that clip. as a 1200 rated player, this clip gave me confidence.

[@ricedanan]

I don't even know how to play Chess but I can feel something burning up in my soul.

[@あだぷと-s9j]

4:21　ここでもう基本戦術を考え出してるの凄い

[@Gilsao157]

After a creative opening and a complex middlegame the players reached a king and pawn versus king endgame which was a theoretical drawn

[@3proutboy]

Omg watching this really hurts, but I can't stop watching whyyyy

[@kindle9597]

I can believe how quick they worked out how the knight moves

[@nieklak]

I have no idea how chess work too, y'all are having fun looking at them trying to do something but I'm using all my brain power to understand what is going on as well

[@hol.blackhole8888]

Thanks for the hard work, boss. It's good to see holostars receiving some love

[@sjkad461]

I love how they called the rook a drumcan

[@Ernesto0822]

I've never watched Holostars nor have I ever played chess but, this was extremely entertaining

[@LK_tutturu]

and from move 3 looks like we are getting an entirely new game

[@jerardocontreras1572]

Idk what's better this chess match or the Holo En one

[@riqopowpow]

Holo en its just tedious

[@thisrandomdude2880]

Look at it this way: -You have two guys who think they're just playing western shogi trying to understand how each piece works through trial and error as well as association with the previously mentioned shogi. They go on to make it a draw (SOMEHOW) after 17 minutes of absolute chaos. Or, -You have two gals who understand the very basics of chess while having zero knowledge of tactics fumbling around FOR AN ENTIRE HOUR while making comical mistakes. Other shenanigans ensue throughout said game and one of them ends up winning for no actual reason. All in all, this game made me lose half of my braincells, the other one took care of the rest, but at least they're all lovable dorks.

[@karamatsumatsuno8385]

i dont know how to play chess either so this is relatable :') also thank you for the clip translation!❤️

[@jessfranc7541]

They would've lost their shit if one of their pawns reached the end of the other side and had the choice to change into another role.

[@lightnight1481]

Watching this display of galaxy brain live was hilarious i can tell anyone that. Thanks for the amazing clips and translations!

[@esperfraud]

Their laughter at the end healed me

[@dhanang]

Oh my god, I lost my last brain cells watching this. And I don't regret it.

[@nemuiro15]

i was learning chess 2 months ago(I've stopped now) And i clicked on this video thingking "Woah, they must be really good. " and looking for reference-play. But this is.. better than i expected xd

[@lrekkk9162]

I play chess and I thought it'd be frustrating but it was actually pretty entertaining and funny lmao

[@haveachocobar]

This is tame. This. This is tame compared to what we experienced yesterday.

[@NotASuspicousPerson]

The fact that at 5:20, Izuru was 2 turns away from a checkmate just hurts to see (Yes, IF Roberu knew as well, he could have blocked it). The whole thing is painful to watch, but it's also so funny and adorable. 草

[@zeroyuki92]

I know chess a lil bit but I struggle to see how to do a chechkmate in two turns from there without risking being eaten, how would you do that?

[@zeroyuki92]

Nvm, just realized it

[@RedzeeTV]

I dont see any checkmate in 2. If its moving pawn to e6 and bishop to b5, rob can just take the bishop.

[@RedzeeTV]

Nvm you mean from 5:50 onwards

[@NotASuspicousPerson]

@@RedzeeTV Izuru could have just used the while bishop to move in front of the rook then take the pawn and get a checkmate. Though, again if they knew what they were doing and Roberu noticed, it could have easily been blocked. But yea, the time was set on when the condition became available.

[@allen2941]

He solo squad cleared with his king. Chad move.

[@ajiemaspangestu3100]

I can't believe they decide to play chess without knowing how to play it

[@hellogoodbye8620]

5:37 Izuru... a queen and a pawn are very very different in value 😂😭

[@kaponos]

Friendship ended with rook, drumcan is now my tower piece

[@lucun_]

I love that Roberu picked up that the white bishop could only move onto other white tiles before figuring out that it could only move diagonally

[@tiredmann]

"Yes, I was in the chess club." -A Great Man

[@Isajinglebells]

Chess has feeling too you know that why they don't move

[@drago_thedragonbreaker]

Holostars share 3 braincells and these two are using 1 together

[@kijo9A]

9:45 It's amazing that I'm so focused on what they do to have surprised me alongside them at the time... Even though I'm relatively good at playing chess

[@mythrimax]

I love how they play without knowing how to move the pieces

[@misakikira5557]

Thanks for translation!

[@alcideblair4846]

This video is basically "Visible Confusion: The Video"

[@healingsatellite2450]

I haven't seen a more legendary battle in the history of chess. Sasuga.

[@royal1348]

Chess is probably the very first board game i learned before i even went to elementary school, that's why I'm confused when someone says they don't know how to play it. Japan got shogi though so i understand why they don't.