The Library of Alexandria Didn't Burn Down

The burning of The Library of Alexandria, the MOST tragic thing to ever happen to humanity. Or so many people think. Truth is it didn't happen in the way people think and it didn't really matter. So what happened? What's the truth?
#h0ser #history #geography
The Truth about the library of alexandria, the burning of the library of alexandria

[@ihavetowait90daystochangem67]

If only the Library of Alexandria wasn’t burned, we could’ve learned how to make the Morbius movie sooner and thus advancing humanity quicker in the process

[@snare5903]

Herodotus spoke of a piece of manuscript hidden away in the library with a revelation written on it that when lost, sent humanity back a 1000 years. Thank god for Jared Leto and his uncovering of what was lost in whats now an iconic quote in the movie morbius. It's Morbin time.

[@DeKevers]

Minions: The Rise of Gru* fuck mornius

[@BeanOfBean]

@@DeKevers bro couldn’t even spell morbius

[@ploosh9870]

@@BeanOfBean mornius

[@Maxzes_]

@@BeanOfBean “morbius” doesnt deserve too be spelt correctly

[@expandedhistory]

When I was studying to be a librarian (yes, you can actually study for that) we learned that the Library of Alexandria worked as, who would've guesed, a library; although it didn't have the holy grail of knowledge, it sure as heck did contain manuscripts and physical copies. So when it burned, yes, some rare stuff was lost, but it wasn't a museum: most of it's scrolls, papyrus, and animal skins had texts that were in other libraries too, it's just that it had an incredible amount of them.

[@houseplant1016]

Sorry but wtf do you learn as a librarian? Saying the alphabet in reverse? Getting your bachelor in Nepal while being silent for 2 years? Sorry I am curious.

[@QuirkySmirkyIan]

@@houseplant1016 Considering history is in the lad's name and a task of librarians are to keep records of books and be knowledgeable on the books to have a better experience for the customer. I would imagine Librarians learn a lot about the history of writing.

[@houseplant1016]

@@QuirkySmirkyIan But why? A librarian's job is just making sure the books are all complete and in good state and ordering them according to the alphabet. Nowadays you can just find a book with the computer in your library. I think that his history project is more personal.

[@11th_defender51]

@@houseplant1016 but they also have to know where every book is in the library.

[@vincenttt8289]

@@11th_defender51 Dewey Decimal System

[@ShieldAre]

From the analyses that I have seen, what burning the library did: Sciences: Not much lost. Math: Maybe a few interesting texts. History: A lot. Culture: A lot, although like the video states, not all of it would be particularly interesting. Would we be more scientifically advanced if the library survived better? Probably not to any noticeable extent. But would we know a lot more about the ancient world, and have more fun or interesting prose, poetry and other such works to enjoy? No doubt. Goes to show that while a library with a lot of knowledge is a nice thing to have, an even better thing to have is a political system and institutions that support independent research and the maintenance of that knowledge. The library's fate was sealed long before any burnings when it became a toy for the powerful to play with and use for their own gain, and neglect when it does not do those things, rather than a proto-university working towards knowledge for knowledge's own sake.

[@simonbrandberg1732]

In other words still hurt but not as much

[@yonathanrakau1783]

Probably math and science was little to none. Carl sagan had smoked too much cocaine

[@ManiacMayhem7256]

The history part is what's sad tbh.

[@upvotecomment2110]

Therefore All ancient western knowledge is irrelevant, its contents don't matter anyway. Its mostly re-written poetry Unless it's Eastern knowledge. Then it is worth destroying.

[@CantusTropus]

@@upvotecomment2110 Wut

[@TreeGod.]

The point isn’t that we lost a bunch of science It’s that we lost tons of writings that would help us to greater understand what life was like back then

[@nihiqallam5616]

Nah it didn't still killing around

[@jmgonzales7701]

@Mikołaj Dujka yes sadly, what they think is that the book of Alexandria are related to sciences.

[@vukvidanovic8276]

i was confused to find out that people think it was a science hub, i always associated it with history

[@An_Ian]

Your right but most folk think it was the former not the later hence this videos existence

[@modernwarrior24]

Exactly. Im sure sciences and math were taught to scholars but history? Im 99% sure history was there

[@PakBallandSami]

One of the major acquisitions for the library was the “books of Aristotle,” concerning which there are two conflicting accounts. According to Athenaeus, Philadelphus purchased that collection for a large sum of money, whereas Strabo reported that Aristotle’s books passed on in succession through different hands, until they were later confiscated in 86 bce by Sulla, who carried them away to Rome.

[@itsmak2847]

You have 25 likes, but sadly you have no comments. Here you go, my fellow Pakistani. ;)

[@emiliopenayo4738]

One more comment for you :)

[@qerqiztopulli1708]

Not gonna lie you're mother born you a genius I have you seen so much videos even on skanderbeg videos.respect👏

[@williamthebonquerer9181]

Professional KZbin commenter pakball sam

[@upvotecomment2110]

Therefore All ancient western knowledge is irrelevant, its contents don't matter anyway. Its mostly re-written poetry Unless it's Eastern knowledge. Then it is worth destroying.

[@Ennio444]

We lost a lot of historical records and literature. That's a tragedy for historians.

[@velstadtvonausterlitz2338]

Blame the Muslims, they destroy everything they touch.

[@turzilla]

oh no! anyways.

[@waynegnarlie1]

It's amazing we have anything from the past, given human "culture".

[@natmanprime4295]

Yes, science and maths knowledge is inevitably rediscovered it's indestructible, but historical stuff is unique and precious

[@williamgarayua5878]

🔥🔥Someone may say that nothing valuable was lost, like any unsolved case of a virgin violated & disappeared forever... Because even in Modern Times Civilization struggles to get rid of Hatred & Violent SUPREMACISM by allowing Armies of JIHAD to operate camouflaged as "religion" to violate inalienable Basic Human Rights to Collapse Arts, Science & Research to enslave FREE CIVILIZATION... 🔭🔬🕊️. 🆚. ⚔️📗⚔️

[@Quincy_010_]

If only the Library of Alexandria wasn't burned, we finally could've found out who asked

[@Green_Stache_Productions]

It was me 😈

[@hirandompeopled4968]

@@Green_Stache_Productions NOT RYAN WAS COOL 777 OH NO

[@Green_Stache_Productions]

@@hirandompeopled4968 yessss.... You're suffering brings me content.... MWAHAHAHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHA! 😈

[@dubuyajay9964]

@@Green_Stache_Productions Asked what?

[@Green_Stache_Productions]

@@dubuyajay9964 I asked what Ligma was 😈

[@petervoller3404]

As an ancient historian, this video hurts my soul. To anyone who watches it, please be skeptical, fact check and do your own reading and draw your own conclusions. You start by kinda mocking the idea that loads of knowledge was lost, which is silly. Modern estimates are that about 2% of ancient Greek literature survived, the number varies but it's certainly less than 5%. A lot of writings were lost with the library, knowledge, a lot of it, WAS lost. Including a lot of science and mathematics. Whether we later managed to rediscover that knowledge or how long it took is impossible to say, because the knowledge was lost. All the stuff about we'd have reached Mars by now if the library hadn't burnt done is basically just people meming. Like, no one who actually studies history or anything actually thinks that lol. You then give three dates for the burning, 48BC, 391 AD and 640 AD. But what you don't mention are the ACTUAL dates that historians think it's most likely most of the Library was destroyed, 272 and 297 AD. You then call Gibbon a liar. Gibbon wasn't a liar lol, he was one of the most influential ancient historians of all time, and it seems as if you haven't read him. He says that the Library declined gradually over time, and that it was also burnt at one point by Christians. None of that is lies. You can disagree with Gibbon putting so much weight on the burning by the Christians, but he wasn't a liar. He wrote historical facts and gave his interpretation of them. You're pronunciation of Ashurbanipal is way off. Usually, I have no problem with those kinda details, but if you're going to portray yourself as being knowledgeable about the topic of the video, it kind of reveals that you're not if you don't understand how such important terms should be pronounced. Like "an ancient university most of the knowledge did not come from storing books but by scholars researching and writing their own works". A mental statement. Scholars, to this day, research and write their own works *based on books that are available to them*. You can't just say that the Library's prestige was the scholars, not the books, when the scholars were there and were so prolific BECAUSE of the books. You then go on to recognise many of the scientific achievements made as a result of the library, like the archimedes screw etc. but will still kinda suggest later that we didn't lose a lot of scientific progress. But like you literally point out, scientific advancements WERE being made their right up until Hypathia's time in 415 AD. You then say that around 210 BC the Ptolemaic Empire was at war with the Seleucids. I might have to double check my dates here, but that doesn't sound right to me. Raphia had happened in 217 BC ending that war with the Seleucids, and the next one wasn't until like early 190s or maybe 202 or something. You again say it was the scholars not the books that the Library was known for, again missing the point that the books are what made Alexanderian scholars so prolific. You also say all the scholars left the Library, which isn't true. Many of them did after Ptolemy VIII's exile decree, but scholars continued to work at the Library for hundreds of years after that. You then say that by 100BC, almost all Greek poems had been standardised and spread, and kinda imply that the Library therefore lost a lot of it's function. This is almost cut and paste from wikipedia word for word, but it's wrong. So far as we know, almost all major Greek poems had been standardised and commented on *in the Library*. Probably at other libraries as well, but we have no idea how well proliferated that knowledge was, becasue as I said earlier, almost all of it has been lost to time. You then say Alexandria was taken over by Rome in 80BC, which is also not quite right. Ptolemy X did leave Egypt to Rome in his will, but the Roman's didn't really press that, and they wouldn't take over Alexandria properly until like 50 years later. You also say that the Roman's bought a period of peace and stability in 80BC which...just no. There were riots going on, regicides, wars with Judea, a civil war in Egypt. The Romans brought peace decades later when Egypt was a proper Roman province, sure, but not before Caesar lol. The library WASN'T a shell of itself. Less productive than at the start, sure, less prestigious to study at, also probably true. But not a shell because it STILL had the massive collection of books!! That hadn't changed! You then talk about the "second burning" and put it as 391 AD. You completely overlook Aurelian and Diocletian's taking of the cities in the 3rd century AD, which almost certainly did the most destruction to the Library. You're conclusion is that "The library of Alexandria was never burnt down fully in a great fire that handicapped the ancient world to be behind centuries in science, math and literature. Only sections of the library burnt down and when the majority of the books did burn, MAYBE, it was already about 800 years after the decline of the library...most works in there were commentaries or commentaries on other commentaries". A completely ridiculous conclusion. Lets break it down: "The library of Alexandria was never burnt down fully in a great fire" True, it was burnt numerous times. Anyone with even a vague interest in the ancient world will be aware that the Library was burnt many times. The point that people often make, however, is that any one of those fires may have destroyed a lot of human knowledge. "that handicapped the ancient world to be behind centuries in science, math and literature". You have no way of knowing that and no way of proving it.. We don't know all the knowledge that was lost, so we have no way of knowing how much a handicap it was. Either way, the loss of knowledge from the library isn't usually considered a handicap to the ANCIENT world, but for OUR world. It's the fact that we had to rediscover all the knowledge. That's what people meme about. No one is suggesting that the secret to intergalactic flight was in the library. But they are suggesting (and are correct to say) that it did hold a lot of knowledge that was eventually lost in Europe for a while and took centuries to rediscover. Point being, imagine how advanced we could be now if we hadn't wasted centuries not knowing what we HAD known thousands of years ago. You kinda misunderstand this meme, it seems, and so the whole video is off. "only sections of the library burnt down" I mean, yeah, but the whole thing was destroyed lol. Over time and in stages, for sure, but we lost the entire thing. That's a complete historical fact, the Library was lost, along with almost all of it's contents, to the passage of time. "It was already about 800 years after the decline of the library" You make this mistake a lot. The library had lost some prestige, sure, **but the books were still there even 800 years later**. That's what mattered. The library WAS still productive for a lot longer than you give credit it for (again, Hypathia!), but even if it wasn't, it doesn't matter. It didn't have to be producing NEW stuff, it was all the stuff that was already there that made it valuable. "Most works in there were commentaries, or commentaries on other commentaries". You are clearly not a historian. SO MUCH of what has survived to this day survives in commentaries, and commentaries on commentaries, those are utterly invaluable! And they weren't *just* commentaries. The fricking Epitome of Justin's is one such example, one of the most important surviving texts about the Hellenic world! Another example, Theon of Alexandria, edited and commented on scientific works. In the process of doing that, he added notes where the original author got the science wrong, or where new theories had come to light. You try and dismiss commentaries as being like youtube commentaries, but you don't understand what ancient commentaries were like. They were more like today's academic theses, written in response to a main work but building upon it. And yes, MOST of the works might have been commentaries, but crap loads more stuff wasn't! Loads of it was copies of original texts! Again, less than 5% of Greek literature, probably nearer 2% has survived! Some of those texts may have made it into other libraries, although many of those were also lost and destroyed. Either way, it is extremely likely that there were many texts in the library of alexandria ONLY, and nowhere else. The loss of the books of Alexandria was a disaster for humanity, and one that we won't ever really know how impactful it was precisely because we do not know what stuff was lost.

[@LazyAndFabulous]

This is worth a read, hope this gets more likes.

[@RobC85]

Thank you for taking the time to write this out. This is very important to understand and shows the difference and importance that an educated and passionate person can do on a subject vs what a person that gives more importance to making a half a$$ video, getting information from the paper they were forced to write on a topic that they dont like and which they read the bare minimum to turn in a barely passing paper to a teacher who doesnt care. Its the equivalent to saying that all the works of the scientists that studied after Einstein, Newton, Darwin, Feynman, Currie etc etc, dont matter, when in all reality its the combined knowledge of humanity that has given us the building blocks of knowledge. Its sad to see how lack of understanding and having true commitment is hindering our advancement in knowledge. Especially when we read other coments and realize that they dont see the ignorance in content like this. Its what happens when people get taught what to think and dont learn how to think.

[@tinkmarz1]

Your comment by far makes more sense than the "information" in this video. That said, it's no secret that not too long after the burning(s) of the library we went through the Dark Ages, until the Renaissance, when the church began to loose it's grip. (Hmmm...I just wonder what's in the Vatican's library with those secret volumes that one needs "special permission" to view (and this is (was?) stated on their own website)...and whence they came. For crying out lout, it's supposed to be a library...any library that insists on "special permission" to view certain works (which, from what some have reported, have been denied access to) makes me wonder what's in those volumes that they must be so secretly "guarded". I'm by no means an expert on the Library at Alexandria...but the controversy over it is certainly interesting, and makes one wonder. Thanks much for your comment. You indeed are a scholarly person because you've presented in your comment notations with references of named individuals from history, and more importantly state the subject not as fact, but with what logically might makes sense from a time that is lost (and even the process of thought may have been different in those ancient times). Lol...I'd bet the poster of this video, if he watched it, thought the movie "Idiocracy" was a comedy.

[@markusgorelli5278]

This is why I always peruse the comments - *because commentaries are important.* 😁😁

[@sirwootalot]

I figured him pronouncing Ashurbanipal "a sherpa nipple" was a silly lil' shitpost joke

[@tandemcharge5114]

Just like losing a huge library today, there on the surface doesn't seem like much is lost, but it's the value in knowing what the people thought, what they recorded doing, and how people saw the world at the time was what was lost. Had the library survived, we could have gained further insights into ancient life and potentially plug gaps missing in our knowledge on the how, why and when a certain event occurred

[@sta1055]

How does it matter? We literally don't care about how people live today. Why do you care about dead civilizations from centuries ago? Any history older than 1-2 centuries is irrelevant IMO. If history shows anything, it's that we never learn from history.

[@Athanatoi]

Humanity has conquer a vast amount of work pieces, in every field, and beyond imagination, during its small part of time-existence in the universe. And it is through the creation of civilization that all this become real. On the contrary, it is unthinkable to see humanity itself to proceed in a self-amputation by leaving ruins of its achievements to the next generations, who will lament about for ages. There is a greek word that is really difficult to translate because it doesn't exist in english : σοφόμωρος / sophomoros. It 's composed by two words: σοφός / sophos which means wise and μωρός / moros which means foolish. -To be wise and foolish at the same time. Unfortunately this is something that characterize man. A dramatic scene, taken from the Agora movie (December 2009) showing someone called Hypatia of Alexandria who is based in real life person (brilliant mathematician and philosopher renowned for her natural beauty, high intelligence and moral standards as well as for her rhetoric and teaching skills) among scholars of the Library of Alexandria (the largest and most famous library of the ancient times,collecting all the worlds knowledge ) and the siege of the Library of Alexandria by the Christian mob (one of the 3 main stories of the Librarys destruction), probably in the beginning of the 4th century. It is to be noticed that Hypatia died young in a dreadful manner when she was torn to pieces by monks in 415 in Alexandria (during the reign of Theodosius II).Famous for her excellence in philosophy (neoplatonist) and sciences (mathematician, astronomer), her brilliant mind, fine manners and exceptional beauty. Some count her as the last Head Librarian after Aristarchus.

[@NYUArchaeology]

it was black ethiopian literature on papyrus guys. Neanderthals were whites in europe. They weren't writing sir. They became greeks later. You guys gotta do your homework.

[@suvajeetdatta1220]

When the library in Nalanda University (one of the world's oldest University) was burned by the invaders, the manuscripts were said to be burning for weeks. India lost nearly 2000 years worth of knowledge, most of it being Buddhist religious literature with philosophy and science making up a large percentage. This one event resulted in Buddhism dyeing in india, it's birthplace and changing the demographics and culture of India forever.

[@mkultraenjoyer]

We actually don't have any eyewitness accounts that the turks burned down nalanda. Only accounts from sources who heard stories about the destruction

[@muderer_executioner]

You sure do realise right that ancient science isn't anything remotely close to modern science .It generally was some learned scholar telling his opinion about some natural phenomenon generally based on a priori reasoning. The mathematical and epistemological rigour of science arrives much later . Also just like the library of Alexandria , even most works in ancient Indian libraries were also commentatories on famous works of the past ( generally of religious texts ) .

[@ryanmarlin2974]

There was hardly anything of worth in nalanda.

[@TanukiDigital]

Those old Muslims sure loved to burn libraries.

[@ryanmarlin2974]

@@TanukiDigital hardly. We've given more books and libraries to the world.

[@tacolordc]

If the Library of Alexandria hadn’t been burned KZbin commenters wouldn’t have complained about the event so history would have gotten altered in a small way

[@phillipholland6795]

And it's quite interesting that this made up event was used to attack Islam even though the library being burned was clearly a fake story.

[@MoloIongo]

The reason many of us care so much about the library of Alexandria isn’t bc of the sciency stuff or technology. It is bc of the historical record.

[@user-kl8lo6rj5i]

But the sciency stuff too. Would be nice to have that.

[@MoloIongo]

@@user-kl8lo6rj5i Dude we have much more knowledge about everything than them. Nobody gives a rat’s ass about outdated science unless it is for history research

[@victorkreig6089]

But it didn't hold anything special, it's historical records were copied of the real thing from elsewhere or had its originals copied and housed elsewhere It's not really a loss, doesn't matter what happened to the damn thing as just like all the other neat libraries their information was lost over time due to age and just normal occurrences like sun exposure, humidity, insects and animals eating through them, etc. Not really anything important would have survived long enough to be written down in any meaningful age to be sure

[@Athanatoi]

Humanity has conquer a vast amount of work pieces, in every field, and beyond imagination, during its small part of time-existence in the universe. And it is through the creation of civilization that all this become real. On the contrary, it is unthinkable to see humanity itself to proceed in a self-amputation by leaving ruins of its achievements to the next generations, who will lament about for ages. There is a greek word that is really difficult to translate because it doesn't exist in english : σοφόμωρος / sophomoros. It 's composed by two words: σοφός / sophos which means wise and μωρός / moros which means foolish. -To be wise and foolish at the same time. Unfortunately this is something that characterize man. A dramatic scene, taken from the Agora movie (December 2009) showing someone called Hypatia of Alexandria who is based in real life person (brilliant mathematician and philosopher renowned for her natural beauty, high intelligence and moral standards as well as for her rhetoric and teaching skills) among scholars of the Library of Alexandria (the largest and most famous library of the ancient times,collecting all the worlds knowledge ) and the siege of the Library of Alexandria by the Christian mob (one of the 3 main stories of the Librarys destruction), probably in the beginning of the 4th century. It is to be noticed that Hypatia died young in a dreadful manner when she was torn to pieces by monks in 415 in Alexandria (during the reign of Theodosius II).Famous for her excellence in philosophy (neoplatonist) and sciences (mathematician, astronomer), her brilliant mind, fine manners and exceptional beauty. Some count her as the last Head Librarian after Aristarchus.

[@boozecruiser]

@@user-kl8lo6rj5iLmao what could they know that we didn't?

[@humans9291]

I feel like the fall of baghdad due to the mongols may have contributed more damage, as, while manuscripts and other things were stored, a lot of the damage from the Islamic golden age was done, and things were lost. I'd think, if those were actually passed around, probably a lot of disease could have been prevented in the medival ages.

[@xdzaster3389]

yes but sadly the west just doesn't respect musilm library to be musilms wouldn't accept western librarys it's just a big cycle of rasism

[@snare5903]

The Islamic golden age was already finished when when the Muʿtazila's were cast down centuries earlier.

[@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506]

the writings of Hippokrates and Avicenna and Galenus were already far spread at that time. That and some jewish work were basically the only relevant medical works at the time. I don't think there was some magical, modern medical theory in baghdad that people would habe cared about.

[@jagadeeshdomalapelli487]

Same with Nalanda and Taxila universities of India. From what I know there was lot of research going on in India on Maths, Agriculture and Astrology. Not sure but maybe if works on Agriculture would have survived world would have been a lot better during those times.

[@kramilion43]

@@xdzaster3389 not being a grammar nazi but pls fix your spelling

[@georgios_5342]

7:45 I think this story was written by a byzantine Greek person because in Greece everyone knows it. But we know it a bit differently. It is "when the Muslims came to Alexandria, the caliph said about the library: Burn it all down. If the books are against our Quran, their heresy doesn't deserve do exist. If they are with the holy Quran, then again burn them. We do not need anything more than the word of god itself."

[@kiwuuspurr1927]

Muslims did not exist at the time?

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

So it was literally Byzantine Propaganda against Muslims

[@georgios_5342]

@@forickgrimaldus8301 I don't know if it was propaganda or simply written down

[@spartawelly5863]

​@@georgios_5342it actually is propaganda

[@maddog643]

read Arab Civilization by Gustave Le Bon or just Read about the Christian historian John Nakiussi who wrote the Islamic conquest of Egypt completely without mentioning anything about the fire and there is a lot of evidence that the zealous Christians are the ones who burned it ​@@georgios_5342

[@seeeeeeean5106]

I know that people don't say this a lot but I'm pretty happy that you're getting sponsors keep making the good content👍

[@Walterdecarvalh0100]

Didn't know where you were going with your comment. I thought you were going to say that you were happy that the library burnt down

[@distendedmist5840]

A suitable one as well

[@upvotecomment2110]

Therefore All ancient western knowledge is irrelevant, its contents don't matter anyway. Its mostly re-written poetry Unless it's Eastern knowledge. Then it is worth destroying.

[@_wayward_494]

@@upvotecomment2110 why'd you put therefore, your comment is not relevant to what anyone in the chain said lmfao. Try harder somewhere else

[@stephenskinner7207]

What really saddens me is the loss of the Ancient Greek Tragedies.

[@filip1408]

A very solid point raised here, I will say that given the draw of sorting information doesn’t mean information and knowledge was only there. However we like to dream of our what ifs. What if Napoleon’s Waterloo took place on Mars, or crossing the Delaware actually meant going to the moon. Our endless whatifness is hilarious

[@nicholasricardo8443]

It's mostly the loss of primary sources that really hurts, especially to an aspiring historian like myself. We didn't really lose much scientific developement, we really lost information on what plays people were talking about, lame stuff that only history majors care about. But I'm a history major so I care :(

[@belac0662]

The reason I was mad about the burning was because we have lost so much history of the ancient world in that fire I’ve always thought that we could be on Mars stuff was dumb

[@MuddieRain]

“You could tell how middle class you are by how aggrieved you are and how you wince every time someone mentions the fact that the library of Alexandria burn down” -Lindy Beige

[@AlbertoSantosDumont819]

Historical writings are incredibly useful from anthropological and historical reasons. The breakdown of the library over time (it wasn't burned in one day) was a massive loss due to all the lost playwriting, historical accounts, biographical and autobiographical information. Science isn't the only thing that matters.

[@joshuakhaos4451]

Science is obviously important to our society, but I think we put to much emphasis on science and not enough on stories, and opinions of events by other on lookers. some of the most compelling parts of world conflicts or huge societal changes come not from leaders or the events themselves. But the thoughts, opinions and stories of the average man, soldier or someone reflecting on whatever time frame they experienced. Thats why I always feel a little empty when an older person dies and took so many stories and experiences to the grave with them instead of sharing them. There is knowledge and even great bits of wisdom to be had in just basic stories of someone's own past experiences. Sometimes you get a new perspective on things that may be useful in the future.

[@Athanatoi]

Humanity has conquer a vast amount of work pieces, in every field, and beyond imagination, during its small part of time-existence in the universe. And it is through the creation of civilization that all this become real. On the contrary, it is unthinkable to see humanity itself to proceed in a self-amputation by leaving ruins of its achievements to the next generations, who will lament about for ages. There is a greek word that is really difficult to translate because it doesn't exist in english : σοφόμωρος / sophomoros. It 's composed by two words: σοφός / sophos which means wise and μωρός / moros which means foolish. -To be wise and foolish at the same time. Unfortunately this is something that characterize man. A dramatic scene, taken from the Agora movie (December 2009) showing someone called Hypatia of Alexandria who is based in real life person (brilliant mathematician and philosopher renowned for her natural beauty, high intelligence and moral standards as well as for her rhetoric and teaching skills) among scholars of the Library of Alexandria (the largest and most famous library of the ancient times,collecting all the worlds knowledge ) and the siege of the Library of Alexandria by the Christian mob (one of the 3 main stories of the Librarys destruction), probably in the beginning of the 4th century. It is to be noticed that Hypatia died young in a dreadful manner when she was torn to pieces by monks in 415 in Alexandria (during the reign of Theodosius II).Famous for her excellence in philosophy (neoplatonist) and sciences (mathematician, astronomer), her brilliant mind, fine manners and exceptional beauty. Some count her as the last Head Librarian after Aristarchus.

[@lucianoosorio5942]

6:24 “We didn’t start the fire, it was always burning since the world’s been turning.”

[@imranchaudhary3776]

What a coincidence, I'm writing a paper on why it's significant to humanity. I feel like since it's such a mystery, it's all subjective. But in my opinion, we've lost ancient ideologies and philosophies and that will always keep me contemplating. That knowledge we lost can probably still affect and influence us today.

[@h0ser]

OK I'M SORRY about pronouncing the P in Ptolemy and Ptolemeic. Put all your complaints below here, not in the normal comments. Nah NVM I heard Kraut say Puh-Tolemy and I saw NOT A SINGLE comment about his pronounciation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ2pZo2Hoahgg8k NOT A SINGLE COMMENT.

[@mynthie2576]

a

[@Fudgeking21]

s

[@123cityperson]

p

[@georgios_5342]

No no, these are Greek names. In Greek it is correct to pronounce them.

[@secktuss9610]

you pronounced ptolemy and ptolemaic wrong

[@klandersen42]

I was not aware that Carl Segan had commented about the Library of Alexandria or that his opinions on it were considered so important to the masses. The big thing about the burning of the Library I have always believed is the historical knowledge that was lost. Had it not burned I don't think we would be more scientifically advanced than we are now, but we would be more knowledgeable about our origins and history.

[@PR-ot7qd]

The library of alexandria is like that fried hard-drive I had 10 years ago. Looking back probably not a whole was lost

[@Nikolapoleon]

1:18 I've never heard Ashurbanipal referred to as "ash urban nipple" before. Also, Puh-tolomy is a new one.

[@markusgorelli5278]

I had closed captions on and it said ash urban nipple. I had the video muted - I didn't realize that he actually pronounced it like that. LOL.

[@samy7013]

“Ash Urban Nipple” sound better than “Soot City Teat”, ngl. 🤣😂😁

[@ethans6539]

Its fun to imagine in the future they may talk about the loss of KZbins storage as some great loss of knowledge like Alexandria lol

[@douglasstrother6584]

KZbin's c e n s o r s h i p burns itself down.

[@the_mariocrafter]

I hope mass archiving happens by then.

[@chungus8812]

Just a small criticism, it isn’t pronounced “PUH-tolemy”, it’s something more just like “Toll-a-me”

[@TylerSolvestri]

Toll-oh-me*

[@fabienlehenaff2742]

Puh-sycholgy

[@mollof7893]

The P isn't actualy silent. /pt/ is a consonant cluster. Just English who can't pronounce stuff as usual.

[@timewave02012]

@@mollof7893 Sure, native speakers of Slavic languages, for example, handle consonant clusters better, but a native Japanese speaker would likely struggle even more than a native English speaker.

[@brutusthebear9050]

What was lost were the writings of Aristotle. The West lost access to these writings until Saint Thomas Aquinas. Even then, it is likely that many of his works were lost permanently. The dark ages of Europe, which I would define as a focus on platonic metaphysics, can be directly attribute to this loss. Likewise, the Renaissance can be directly attributed to the rediscovery of Aristotle and the switch to Aristotilean metaphysics and virtue ethics in Catholicism. The Islamic Golden age was also heavily influenced by the writings of Aristotle. Furthermore, the philosophy of Kant was a direct result of the previous platonic ideology, in a much more perverse form. Kant's philosophy would lead to some of the worst atrocities in human history, including the holocaust. While the knowledge of the Library of Alexandria likely wouldn't have led to technological advances, it could have made the Islamic Golden Age more widespread, creating greater prosperity throughout the Mediterranean world. And while I will not go as far as to say it would have prevented the holocaust and other tragedies that got their ideological justification from the nihilistic metaphysics of Kant, it should be noted that Kant was heavily influenced by the primarily platonic church. So if the church had a stronger Aristotilean influence from the beginning, he would not have had that as inspiration.

[@2se757]

You've angered all of the redditors who overuse the Burning of Alexandria

[@boaoftheboaians]

This both makes sense and sounds more realistic tbh, thank you for all the clarifications with this video!

[@thebigdog2295]

What isn't often mentioned, or even known about by people are the lost libraries of Timbuktu. Some of the manuscripts from these libraries still exist, but are in poor shape and need restoration.

[@IsengardMordor]

The state of those manuscripts is sadly in a deplorable state :( truly a shame...

[@Slothery]

Anthony Fantano here; internet's busiest Alexandrian.

[@lucianoosorio5942]

6:21 “Given low Marc Anthony tossing Caesar salad. You wear too much eyeliner for anyone to adore you. You might as well be working at the door of Sephora.” Marilyn Monroe

[@markusbroyles1884]

Laurence Clark Powell was my neighbor in Malibu 1965 ~ 1975 or so. After I got out of High School I really didn't want to go back to school at all. But I loved to read He was the new head Librarian at UCLA and brought a million book titles to their new Library. He was the new E F Hutton and when he spoke everyone shut up and listened. I was 17. When he learned that I would read whatever he recommended he did an actual JIG ! (dance) for joy with real GLEE ! he became a very good friend. Initiation was tough tho ~ He had me read Moby Dick twice in a row ! I did that in a month... After that he came up with a really great list of books and advise that helped shape my life. The library was where learning was SACRED !! It was a very holy place where there were specialists and geniuses. I'm about his age now as I recalled him all spry and bent from carrying books. What a gift he was to me and how I loved the guy. He was the one who told me that I didn't need to borrow a lot of money to go to college and that the best men were self taught ~ I imagine that there were a few like him at these old libraries.

[@zusty9589]

The Serapeum was never regarded in the existing historical accounts as a significant storehouse of books, even at the peak of the Library. It was simply a subsidiary of the Library in pagan times. And the existing sources disagree as to whether this temple was destroyed or converted into a Christian temple. Whichever happened, it ended as it did because a certain sect of violent anti-Christian pagan rioters took refuge in the temple, which was subsequently set upon and the pagans overthrown. And it was a Serapeum, this being a certain sort of temple dedicated to the worship of the false Hellenistic-Egyptian deity called Serapis, rather than being a temple of the ancient Egyptian pagan religion. To what extent the Library was damaged during Caesar's Civil War is unclear, but it seems to have been generally regarded as insignificant. And the later story of Mark Antony gifting Cleopatra some 200,000 scrolls did not seem entirely connected to it. The general Coptic story of the destruction of many books with the Muslim invasion includes the destruction of a 'great library' but does not name it, nor does it suggest to be the same one as was known to Alexandria in these times of antiquity.

[@somedude1068]

Imagine if it wasnt burned and all high school students would have much more and more complex poetry to analyze.

[@nozrep]

thanks but t s elliot is plenty enough complex for me! and was in high school too! i stick with that amount of complexity or less, hopefully

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Carl Sagan deserves far more criticism in general. He propagated several now popular myths. Including the nuclear winter nonsense and general fear-mongering about nuclear power. He had a lot of dumb unfounded opinions come to think of it.

[@christiangonzalez6945]

Nuclear winter nonsense? Are you doubting the existence of nuclear winter?

[@RAndrewKReed]

Billion and billions of BS...

[@andrewtime2994]

Sagan was a very entertaining writer, and he had standards of objectivity for science, but not for his personal opinions. I recall the painful rant about Alexandria was in the book "Cosmos" which he subtitled "a personal journey" to cover for the sheer randomness of it.

[@Athanatoi]

Humanity has conquer a vast amount of work pieces, in every field, and beyond imagination, during its small part of time-existence in the universe. And it is through the creation of civilization that all this become real. On the contrary, it is unthinkable to see humanity itself to proceed in a self-amputation by leaving ruins of its achievements to the next generations, who will lament about for ages. There is a greek word that is really difficult to translate because it doesn't exist in english : σοφόμωρος / sophomoros. It 's composed by two words: σοφός / sophos which means wise and μωρός / moros which means foolish. -To be wise and foolish at the same time. Unfortunately this is something that characterize man. A dramatic scene, taken from the Agora movie (December 2009) showing someone called Hypatia of Alexandria who is based in real life person (brilliant mathematician and philosopher renowned for her natural beauty, high intelligence and moral standards as well as for her rhetoric and teaching skills) among scholars of the Library of Alexandria (the largest and most famous library of the ancient times,collecting all the worlds knowledge ) and the siege of the Library of Alexandria by the Christian mob (one of the 3 main stories of the Librarys destruction), probably in the beginning of the 4th century. It is to be noticed that Hypatia died young in a dreadful manner when she was torn to pieces by monks in 415 in Alexandria (during the reign of Theodosius II).Famous for her excellence in philosophy (neoplatonist) and sciences (mathematician, astronomer), her brilliant mind, fine manners and exceptional beauty. Some count her as the last Head Librarian after Aristarchus.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@Athanatoi That movie is garbage in terms of being historical. Take it just as entertainment, if even that.

[@qerqiztopulli1708]

Fun fact : Albania used to rule Egypt when Mohamed Ali pasha ruled the Egypt (Mohamed Ali pasha was albanian) and he put Albanian military in Egypt . We saved Egypt from ottomans. Another fun fact : when Alexander the great counqerd Persia left some Albanian settler in Pakistan their tribe is called hundza

[@qerqiztopulli1708]

@@robespierre2837 what's nationalist comment?🤦‍♂️

[@malasian]

@@qerqiztopulli1708 Its a recurring meme on the internet where Albanians wont stop talking about how great they are. It's not my place to judge if your original comment is true or not. But your KZbin name and the comment above plays into the meme itself.

[@qerqiztopulli1708]

@@malasian thanks for telling me buddy.

[@qerqiztopulli1708]

@@malasian here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoHXYohsrJqpZpo kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6DMeJuIfKh7qrM Albanians of pakistan

[@qerqiztopulli1708]

@@malasian I just wanted to get a top comment

[@lucianoosorio5942]

5:47 “Iwisa meet Caesar. He’s the commander who thinks who can dance with Conan the Savanna?” Shaka Zulu

[@HannoversSoap]

That battle was much better than the one with Cleopatra

[@wisemonkey8485]

Archimedes Palimpsest - Thirteenth-century manuscript, overwritten with prayer book. The paper contains math that was close to developing calculus nearly 1,000 years before Isaac Newton. Archimedes also explored a branch of mathematics, now known as combinatorics, which deals with multiple ways of solving a problem. You can only imagine how advanced we would be now if we have a thousand years ahead of discovering calculus. Just goes to show the reason why humanity only became more advanced as our information technology grows.

[@loreman7267]

I'm impressed. Very well researched, quickly and cleanly put, great illustrations.

[@Roadwarior2]

“The library (which was more like a university) became a tool for political power, rather than a free academic institution-“ Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, interesting how that works.

[@ihavenojawandimustscream4681]

Same with House of Wisdom in Baghdad Mf really think a single library could change the world

[@georgecop9538]

People from ancient Greece knew the Earth was round and got it's circumference using only a stick and mesuring the angle of the shadow it casts. Truly ingenious.

[@Ripplesinthewaters]

Great video and wonderful research! One thing: Ptolemy’s name is pronounced without the P: “Tolemy”. I don’t know why. :P

[@kevinabiwardani7550]

I don't usually do two comments on a video, but... The burning of Baghdad House of Wisdom and the burning of Nalanda University also need some love. There are a lot of historical and cultural text lost due to these burnings. And it can even be more tragic than the Library of Alexandria decline. Hope there is a future video about these two.

[@PakBallandSami]

“They say that Caliph Omar, when consulted about what had to be done with the library of Alexandria, answered as follows: 'If the books of this library contain matters opposed to the Koran, they are bad and must be burned. If they contain only the doctrine of the Koran, burn them anyway, for they are superfluous.' Our learned men have cited this reasoning as the height of absurdity. However, suppose Gregory the Great was there instead of Omar and the Gospel instead of the Koran. The library would still have been burned, and that might well have been the finest moment in the life of this illustrious pontiff.” ― Jean-Jacques Rousseau

[@zxera9702]

Yeah well it's unlikely, library was dead long before Omar

[@williamthebonquerer9181]

More reasons to expand the British museum. In 1981 1 million Tamil books were burnt in the Jaffna library arson attack.

[@genghiskhan5701]

Quoting an Englightenment era Frenchman about religious history is like quoting Epstein and how he thinks about child protrection laws

[@subashira]

@@genghiskhan5701 Doesn't change the correctness of JJR's quote

[@upvotecomment2110]

Therefore All ancient western knowledge is irrelevant, its contents don't matter anyway. Its mostly re-written poetry Unless it's Eastern knowledge. Then it is worth destroying.

[@sophustranquillitastv4468]

The same story goes for the great university of Nalanda, it also have a long decline before its demise and people also said we lose so much knowledge because of its destruction as well though they're mainly Buddhist and Indian classics.

[@OmarAlikaj]

I wonder if you'd be making a video on Baghdad's House of Wisdom library.

[@anaqisyatbi5167]

Now I get it. The library (university) got burned down due to massive student debt

[@Uzayrs_breakfast]

7:28 The picture used is NOT from the rashidun caliphate, it is not Umar, it is Mehmed II of the ottoman empire, who lived more that 500 years after Umar.

[@talos_the_automaton2329]

7:37 I laughed when he said “Take it with a grain of Sumak” we use sumak a good bit in Turkey, mainly on manti (a type of dumpling’

[@murtadhaalkenani3876]

Library of ashurbanipal sacked by Persians and Library of Baghdad sacked by mongols were far more tragic.

[@PlutoPlanetPower]

Great video. One note - The "P" in Ptolemy is silent.

[@therealteal620]

Can they just stop burning the library tho

[@bigsmoke4568]

9:31 Sounded like he called him "Mark ass brownlee" 🤣

[@eta1961]

h0ser out here getting the sponsorship coin that he deserves 😤

[@cskilalillabich9059]

It worked out for a distant relative of mine seems he had forgotten to return some books

[@scottthewozfan6983]

Finally someone based who checked the facts

[@OrchestratedChicanery]

If the library hadn't burnt down then we could've had the answer to what the dog doin'?

[@vx8431]

I think the knowledge lost was more historical at the point of all the burnings however there are certain things that was possibly lost due to having already lost the library of Alexandria when they burned down the grand library of Baghdad since it was one of the few places carrying copies of certain books. The few things that sparked the Renaissance was just a small fraction of books and works of art found in smaller libraries such as Cairo's house of wisdom and not even close to how much was in Baghdad. The burning of The house of wisdom in Baghdad was probably the largest loss of knowledge in human history. Thanks mongols and Hülegü khan.

[@bethparker1500]

I read the library took a hit when Ceasar truly stopped paying for the free meals. The scholars could remain in their dormitories in the research library, yet the free laundry slaves were removed too.

[@phantomdragon89]

Just wanted to say I've been really enjoying your content, cant get enough of it! I especially love the Zelda and Super Mario Galaxy songs and such you put in the vids lol

[@Foogi9000]

I would argue that the burning of the Library of Baghdad was a much more significant loss compared to the Library of Alexandria

[@Cooom]

to answer the opening question it would matter for ancient history and culture of the time. I'm sure that a lot more of it would survive for that reason

[@bartomiejkrogulec4552]

It was not a "Pompeian fleet" that burned the library, because Pompeii was dead at that time. Caesar won the battle of Pharsalus, virtually ending the civil war, but which left Pompeii alive. He thought he could raise a new army with the help of Egypt, so he went for from Greece to Alexandria. Still in boat, almost ashore, Pompeii was killed by Egyptians, being decapited post mortem. When Cesar came in pursuit and found out about his rivals death, it wasn't a relief for him - Pompeii was a Roman consul, distinguished general, now - killed by foreigners. This would not stand. Caesar took pharaoh hostage in pharaoh's palace, which led to a siege, and during an attempt of lifting this siege that involved Caesar's and Egyptian (not Pompeian) fleets and armies, a fire to the library was set.

[@Scott89878]

I have always said that anything significant would have been copied and placed in other libraries. I seem to remember reading that by the end of it's time, it was full of mostly Christian hymns.

[@Darticus42]

If true, because most everything else had burned or otherwise been destroyed lol...

[@AwesomeJerkface]

That part of cosmos is hilarious. ‘They called them, “the books from the ships.”’

[@mikaelvalter-lithander1247]

So happy to hear you pronounce the 'pt' correctly. It's so annoying to hear English speakers skipping the 'p'.

[@thefryingdutchman8795]

You're wrong, I shouldn't have to say why you're wrong because it's fairly obvious but... At the same time you still can't discount the loss of contemporary views on past and current events. It's still a great loss, it's not like it was just a collective of children's books or dvds. It was an entire hub of thought that could have widened our view of the world those scholars inhabited and how they themselves viewed it. No one is making the argument that it would have advanced human society but it would have enhanced our understanding of the classical Era as well as a few prior periods.

[@alexer52]

"Everyone here's an NPC!" - 2020s "WAKE UP SHEEPLE, THE TRUTH IS OIT THERE!" - 1980s-2000s "Silence you Alexandrian." - 100 B.C.

[@greengeck0]

The library would not have really advanced humanity to a sper society, but it would sure as hell given us a better historical timeline of events we know little about, and especially events we now have no records of.

[@user-fy6kr7yr9c]

the way he pronounces Ptolemy makes me feel uncomfortable

[@the-np4mr]

I hope he makes another video and pronounces it the exact same way

[@invictor2761]

ur comment makes me cringe

[@Al-qs3xl]

"Asher ba nipple" LoL I almost died

[@Patman0074]

I've been saying this for years and get blown up for it every time...

[@paralyzerfingereleven]

One day all of the study notes we've all taken for school will be "Alexandrian"

[@Hamadsaeedalfsi]

What about Baghdad and the House of Wisdom

[@piuscalvinus]

Clarification: the fleets were not Pompeian, it was the Pharaoh's fleets that fought Caesar

[@thedeadwarrior1828]

Baby wake up, new h0ser video

[@diogomm710]

As a member of the current academic system, I think the library produced something very close to what current academy produces: comentary of comentary, and politics. It's pretty hard to do actual science in universities. It's not an exaggeration to say it's frowned upon.

[@bokonoo77]

It’s kinda interesting that with or without knowledge of Alexandria or Baghdad the western world would have been same And probably would have developed under the Catholic Church or any other reformation church Considering fact that western science’s foundation itself was founded in the Western Europe around the times of Charlemagne and pope Gregory

[@lt2672]

nonsense.

[@spartawelly5863]

Western science foundation? We gave you algebra and basic numbers😂

[@bokonoo77]

@@spartawelly5863 I have every respect for the scientists of the old But you know it is the west who made things into their best state I mean are Muslims good at math or even algebra?

[@spartawelly5863]

@@bokonoo77 yes ..yes we are

[@bokonoo77]

@@spartawelly5863 okay Muslims are like 25% of the world population but only won 4 Nobel prizes on science which are 3 chemistry and 1 physics For Arabs who are quarter of it have 2 in chemistry Yeah, I am afraid that you guys are not bright Plus by IQ which is much better measure because it can predict almost anything, you guys have 84 which is not good really

[@lucianoosorio5942]

6:21 “Quit trip steppin and walk your a** home like an Egyptian.” Marilyn Monroe

[@houseplant1016]

And what about the great library of Baghdad burned by the Mongols?

[@jamesault7832]

Thanks for this video. You have certainly done your homework and have brought up many interesting points. The burning of books is only one way to delete information. In our modern world, we also loose data or records due to technology. Intentional or not, photos, recordings and other forms of media are lost because they haven't been upgraded to newer technology.

[@angeldelgado7120]

To me it has nothing to do with what it contained but what it meant. Just the idea that such an amazing structure to knowledge was treated so poorly makes me feel.

[@daikolirae155]

Nothing of value was really lost, though. If you actually watched the video, you would learn that the library was a HUB of knowledge and scholars. It wasn't the origin, but a merely a hub. It's like getting upset about some library in DC getting burned down because all of the books were burned; sure, books were lost, but all those books have been copied elsewhere, so nothing was really lost.

[@tarantadogago2510]

@@daikolirae155 yup good point man

[@Athanatoi]

Humanity has conquer a vast amount of work pieces, in every field, and beyond imagination, during its small part of time-existence in the universe. And it is through the creation of civilization that all this become real. On the contrary, it is unthinkable to see humanity itself to proceed in a self-amputation by leaving ruins of its achievements to the next generations, who will lament about for ages. There is a greek word that is really difficult to translate because it doesn't exist in english : σοφόμωρος / sophomoros. It 's composed by two words: σοφός / sophos which means wise and μωρός / moros which means foolish. -To be wise and foolish at the same time. Unfortunately this is something that characterize man. A dramatic scene, taken from the Agora movie (December 2009) showing someone called Hypatia of Alexandria who is based in real life person (brilliant mathematician and philosopher renowned for her natural beauty, high intelligence and moral standards as well as for her rhetoric and teaching skills) among scholars of the Library of Alexandria (the largest and most famous library of the ancient times,collecting all the worlds knowledge ) and the siege of the Library of Alexandria by the Christian mob (one of the 3 main stories of the Librarys destruction), probably in the beginning of the 4th century. It is to be noticed that Hypatia died young in a dreadful manner when she was torn to pieces by monks in 415 in Alexandria (during the reign of Theodosius II).Famous for her excellence in philosophy (neoplatonist) and sciences (mathematician, astronomer), her brilliant mind, fine manners and exceptional beauty. Some count her as the last Head Librarian after Aristarchus.

[@Monster_Knight]

I heard a tale that the secret code of half life 3 were kept in that library, such a shame...

[@unnamedshadow1866]

We did lose a lot of shit. But generally the way society works. Is that they would generally have copies of what is vital for running society. So yes, we probably lost some interesting mathematic theories and scientific stuff. But in the terms of technological advancement, we probably recovered all of that stuff eventually. At most what we lost was probably a bunch of work regarding Herbal Medicine and Obscure Philosophers. Basically, nothing of value was lost.

[@Darticus42]

Value is very subjective, but on the more precise point of things which are vital to society have copies, yeah I mostly agree that's plausible. Still lot a LOT about ancient history and culture though that likely only existed there.

[@mvajuru7620]

Egghead Fantano catching strays lool

[@richbandicoot]

that kendrick sample tho 🔥🤟🏼

[@LuisGutierrezG123]

I thought I was the only one that noticed the background music comes from Kendrick's new album

[@gripen777]

markass brownlee its contagious 😭

[@daddykimjongun7777]

islamist invaders burned down University of Nalanda(One of the oldest universities in the world) also. Islam and destruction of peace and humanity go hand in hand.

[@spartawelly5863]

Yeah and Hindu kings were Soo good to the minorities in Sindh that's why they joined hands with the Arabs 😂😂battle of aror....if your idol gods were pleased with you they wouldn't have sent Muslim armies to conquer you!!!

[@daddykimjongun7777]

@@spartawelly5863 lol by that logic why is allah sending jews to FK muslims? Israel and China seems to be taking care of you guys inshallah 😂😂💪🇮🇱🇮🇱

[@lucianoosorio5942]

5:51 “What about me Pompey? Yeah!” Pompey

[@TheInstinctWithinV2]

This makes me realise that political imprisonment has not changed one bit from ancient times until now. We see these same problems mirrored today with politicians using "experts" and "academics" to get what they want out of the greater population.

[@TheConqueror253]

so the Library of Alexandria was just the first Reddit?

[@BoneFisher]

Bro just called out Mellon for his boring takes and I support it 😂

[@WarDog793]

Thanks, hoser! There have been a lot of myths and falsehoods about the destruction of the Library.

[@God-nw9qd]

NO! I LIKE THE LIBRARY SHUT UP!

[@God-nw9qd]

ironic probably

[@Ariel_Alpaca]

Well I agree on your video I would like to say unfortunately since I am a 15 your old boy I would still say the library of Alexandria should not have been burned down