The Limitations and Tragedies of Materialistic Psychology

In this video, we take a measured, reflective, and at times critical dive into the controversial history of psychology.

[@historiaecclesiastica]

Do you want to see this series continue? If so, what tradition would you like to see analyzed next?

[@p_7ero]

Definitely yes! Dao/Taoism

[@veronica_._._._]

I'm, with difficulty, researching how Catholic Psychological Schools are not in fact, bottom up, and reality based, but are still piggybacking on the frameworks of, Freud Jung Adler Janov Reich Perls ... that they have to believe in, and use the language of, in academe, in order to qualify, stay certified, gain tenure ... It's the (vaunting) humanistic philosophy aspect, (you mentioned the importance of underlying philosophies), that l personally believe is driving the drip feed process, that inverts sins to positive virtues, in this pop psyche to nudge unit formatted, global culture. What sayest thou? Oh sage.

[@pj_ytmt-123]

​​@@p_7ero Disagree. There's no need to "pique" any Christian's curiosity about pagan junk, inadvertently promoting awareness of false "religions". I would be interested to know who the spiritual successors to the Pharisees and Sadducees scribes and lawyers are in modern times. They have always been and will always be the enemies of Our Lord, until they repent.

[@Hunteronix]

Anglicanism. Specifically the 39 articles!

[@urbplay]

The results of illuminism movement on how adopting Christian morals without God caused our failed liberal democracy

[@FeralPhilosophy_mw]

I am attempting to bring traditional spirituality back to modern psychology if that’s even possible. I started a charity in Ukraine around trauma, and was assisted by nuns there. So watching this with great interest! Thanks

[@Thedisciplemike]

Gby and your ministry!

[@FeralPhilosophy_mw]

@@Thedisciplemikethank you

[@DragoTyr]

It would be interesting to have a video on the charismatic movement

[@Jim-Mc]

I consider becoming a licensed therapist the greatest mistake of my life both as a Christian and as a profession. I appreciate your fair assessment and it's good to hear it articulated.

[@Lettie22]

Please explain why and also what you did after becoming a therapist. I would really appreciate you explaining this more 🙏

[@Jim-Mc]

@Lettie22 Well without going into too much detail I have done private practice in a church counseling center, and done leadership in private healthcare (community mental health) setting, among various other things. I can say I sadly never found any of my expertise beneficial to anyone. I have only ever earned a fraction of what my peers from college earn who studied different things. My education was on the higher end in comparison to other professionals in the field so it's not that I got a cheap low quality education either.

[@skylinefever]

I could understand, most therapists sounded like NPCs dispensing the same old corporate motivational slogans.

[@JonMillerPhilosophy]

@@Jim-Mc Please consider writing or recording an analysis and critique of your profession as someone who knows it well from the inside. That could be very helpful to people.

[@MatthewThomas-ye1ei]

Mental health and addiction treatments are a spiritual battleground for faithful people to enter into right now. Theres a lot of eastern influence- things like reiki, yoga and eastern meditation. Meanwhile people do not even know meditation and mental prayer are a thing in the western Catholic tradition. What do people think happend in monasteries for so many centuries ? People who are wounded spiritually have come to. Wrong realiziation that the west is anti spiritual and they look for it elsewhere when they seek to heal their wounds so it makes sense that we see all this im the fields mentioned above. Catholic psychologist are a much needed profession in my opinion, and it will become more necessary to help our people.

[@MatthewThomas-ye1ei]

I am very interested in a virtue ethics angle to addiction and mental heath treatment.

[@MatthewThomas-ye1ei]

I am replying to myself because I cannot edit. I want to say that it is the Examination of conscience, both the general and particular examin combined with Mental Prayer that are the best tools to fight vice and “the devil knows that he is powerless over those who practice mental prayer”~ an anonymous Jesuit Priest from a long time ago

[@skylinefever]

I think the problem is that such arguements do not care for those who prayer is not effective for. I was stuck with the Southern Baptist Convention as a kid, and anything was "Just pray harder, bruh!" And anything that didn't work is somehow not believing enough. As if people can just switch their mind into genuine belief mode and switch off doubt mode like a light switch.

[@MatthewThomas-ye1ei]

@ I see what you mean and I also suffered from aridity in prayer. Mental Prayer or Catholic meditation, I learned, was a more practical system of self improvement by fighting vice and increasing virtue.

[@jameslegare5394]

Thanks!

[@seanmclaren8829]

I grew up Catholic. Educated in a secular, scientific and demoralized system, simplistic explanations of theology did not hold up and I fell into a self-centered agnosticism. When I fell into mental illness in my 20s, due to a spiritual realization of my extreme separation, I was let down by both my Catholic faith and the secular mental health system. Neither comprehended that my depression had spiritual origins. My Catholic family abandoned explanation to the mental health system and that system just wanted to numb me with pills. No one helped from an understanding using a spiritual explanation of the dark night of the soul. I was totally on my own. It is a huge oversight of modern Catholicism to not teach understanding through Christic contemplative meditation and as a result so many turned away to Eastern practices in a search for answers.

[@michellemauer5032]

Agreed. Do you like Jung? I grew up Catholic and the lack of real understanding gives me religious psychosis. I'm schizophrenic, agnostic, but I see value in understanding spirituality. Do you read Jung?

[@seanmclaren8829]

@michellemauer5032 Yes I do. I think alchemy and contemplative mysticism are a missing compliment to Christianity. Dry theology alone does not suffice.

[@skylinefever]

How do you deal with the people who are paranoid or went atheist, due to a bunch of hellfire and brimstone sermons in childhood? It may not be common where you are. However, it sure was common in the Southern Baptist Convention and their adjacents.

[@coolcatbaron]

That's not even uncommon in Catholic circles. Some people who tend to suffer OCD can develop scrupulosity. This usually needs pastoral as well as psychological counseling.

[@skylinefever]

@coolcatbaron I was stuck with the SBC, and many people treated any form of psychology as a huge scam.

[@skylinefever]

@ Some have discussed the confessions of Martin Luther and wondered if he was in such a situation.

[@alabaster2163]

They still use this along with electro shock "therapies". Fix the environment around the human so the human can flourish.

[@unknowninfinium4353]

More of this.

[@source3nergy203]

Hmm

[@spacetrains30]

Without Freud there would have been no Clergy sex abuse

[@teresaenglish4628]

Narcissism

[@Twindragon-tu1wd]

Why did " Jesus ,,,," talk down about tradition if tradition is so important ? I think tradition sucks , am I wrong? Please don't burn me for being a heretic.❤

[@historiaecclesiastica]

Jesus talked badly about the tradition of the pharisees, which He rejected as being man-made, but did not criticize the concept of tradition in general - in fact, he established his own traditions, such as the Our Father, the Eucharistic liturgy, and numerous moral principles and interpretations of Scripture.

[@MatthewThomas-ye1ei]

Is ‘everything permisible’ based on what anyone wants? or are right and wrong real? Anyone who is relativistic will then ask ‘says who?’ Catholics have the best answer to these ethical questions. I was just reading The Brothers Karamozov and it introduces these ideas.