The Limitations of the Mpc 2000XL - Before you buy one

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Marlow Digs

Marlow Digs

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@AMWTSCAM82
@AMWTSCAM82 3 жыл бұрын
The value of the MPC 2000xl is going up. OLD IS GOLD
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's getting ridiculous, it's a good investment for the future of my kid, maybe in ten years it'll go for 20K
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 3 жыл бұрын
Yup and I'm glad that I got mine back in 2019 before the prices went up. I'll never sell it.
@J-Hz
@J-Hz 3 жыл бұрын
@@mpchead even the FX board is probably expensive too
@andrewsmyth1652
@andrewsmyth1652 3 жыл бұрын
I've got 2 mpc2000xls fully maxed out. One of them has the JazzCat analog filter installed. I'm glad I bought them over 10 years ago. Money in the bank for sure. Better even.
@basedvato
@basedvato 3 жыл бұрын
Are MPC 1000 and 2500 going to moon next? I have a maxed out 2000, and don't think i'll ever sell at this point. I'm priced out of the 60/3000.
@str8frmthacr8
@str8frmthacr8 3 жыл бұрын
While I respect the cats still using the older machines...I've been there already. Asr10 for years, but I love tech and the progression of tech. If I can "dump" tracks by saving them to an external or an SD card I'll do that. Same with sampling. I've already done my dirt. Spent years digging and thousands on records. If I can just plug my phone in and hit shuffle on a Playlist, I'ma do that. The progression is dope, like I said while I respect the mpc60 II, 1200 and 2000xl gang. I'm totally fine with moving with technology. I have the live 2 on the way coming from a maschine mk2 and I'm not trippin over being old school and "keeping it hip hop". I've been there before. It was dope, but it's time for me keep it movin.
@ryanhom3006
@ryanhom3006 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. The asr 10 omg! It's a really nice machine for the time. Load while playing polly after touch etc .. but shit it could put hate in your heart sometimes with the minimal sample time and tiny screen
@str8frmthacr8
@str8frmthacr8 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhom3006 none of that bothered me, but that mf crashed non stop towards the end and because of that I didn't make anything for almost a year. Just lost the motivation honestly. Then I got the mk2 and that changed the game for me.
@ericdunn1113
@ericdunn1113 2 жыл бұрын
Well I can dig that But I have Been there also ,Back and Forth but I always come back to My MPC 2000 xl had Both Machine software way before i had the Machine And MKII early 2000's the MPC sound will always be around. the only thing left is to totally emulate it, Sound SWING etc.
@str8frmthacr8
@str8frmthacr8 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericdunn1113 man, if you like it I love it. To me as long as you’re happy with your gear I got no problem with what you use. I’m sure you’ve heard bangers come from the MP AND FL studio. Just make dope shit and don’t let anyone tell you what you should and shouldn’t use.
@BobbyBriscoeBeats
@BobbyBriscoeBeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhom3006 I had like a minute and a half sample time on my asr 10
@The_Sonic_Ally
@The_Sonic_Ally 3 жыл бұрын
humans & limitations is often where the magic is. the 90`s was pure musical magic due to those limits. the 2kxl was a wizards wand and the users were the magicians.
@project-95
@project-95 3 жыл бұрын
Take off those rose tinted glasses 😁
@The_Sonic_Ally
@The_Sonic_Ally 3 жыл бұрын
@@project-95 take that chip of your shoulder 😀
@project-95
@project-95 3 жыл бұрын
haha I agree for the most part, I love old machines but not for the sake of it, it needs to sound special to justify the price. When the XL came out everyone said it sounded too clean, now everyone says it sounds amazing. I think it sounds great, but compare the price and modern features on the Live II, is it worth the trade off?
@weepwow
@weepwow 2 жыл бұрын
I got my first job in a recording studio in 1972 at age 18 in Cleveland, doing tons of razor blade editing of 1/4" tape, recording on 16 track and 24 track Ampex 2" Machines. I edited with razor blades for about 15 years until I got my first personal audio software program, I am so happy for the experience of doing razor blade editing. A lost art most will never experience. You had to be 'brought up' with that technology to appreciate the new DAWs. Its the same with the older MPCs. I never owned one, then I bought a 2000xl about 3 years ago and couldnt hack the wait times and struggle. If I would have had the experience of using one when they were the rage, I am sure I would have had an appreciation for them like the razor blade. Great video as always.
@mpchead
@mpchead 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had had some experience from tape. It's a beautiful art that I missed out on.
@weepwow
@weepwow 2 жыл бұрын
@@mpchead Yes M, those were the best days of my youth in the 70's, I was excited and hungry to learn everything about audio I could in those days of splicing tape, analog multitrack reel to reel recording, analog synths, recording sound effects from scratch, etc. Hard to imagine we would rewind the reel tape for each take in a session over and over it was 2nd nature, now done with an instantaneous press of a button like on an MPC. Thats why I have such an appreciation for this stuff, many today have no idea what came before. Thanks.
@DJ279V
@DJ279V 3 жыл бұрын
As an MPC2000XL user, the limitations are an advantage to me as it forces the creation of building manual EFX and adding other sounds underneath. To me it's golden, but I may look into an MPC Live in the future.
@DJ279V
@DJ279V 3 жыл бұрын
@Cosmic HiFi May try that in the future but right now I'm all about bare-bones bests where you can hear and feel how the samples actually are. I usually record into Audacity and add a delay effect at the end. Other than that, just keeping it raw.
@DJ279V
@DJ279V 3 жыл бұрын
@Cosmic HiFi That works as I'm knocking on 47. My small vinyl collection was damaged in a flood several years ago. Will rebuild one day. Until them, it's KZbin and manually muddying up via record static, hiss or whatever lol
@lionelluney3063
@lionelluney3063 3 жыл бұрын
The multi pitch and note off function tightness in the sequencer and simplicity is what makes it a killer. You can get around the Eq by knowing how to balance the filter and resonant.
@denmarksoul1184
@denmarksoul1184 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the live can be too much for me to create. The 2000 classic offers enough for me to just create. I sometimes over think using the live. Great video showing the differences.
@milesb9191
@milesb9191 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that when making simple boom Bap or jazz rap the limitations work great, but when making more ambitious and complex downtempo or trip hop stuff, I find the XL really frustrating without the mute groups. Also since my external filter in my rack broke recently, it’s a real pain not having the high pass built in.
@J-Hz
@J-Hz 3 жыл бұрын
@@milesb9191 Yep even chopping longer samples with the jog wheel or the fader is annoying. And the filter, envelopes, modulations is lacking. I have the 2kxl and the thing I love is the build and the sequencer is pretty solid. But its probably the same on my MPC one
@milesb9191
@milesb9191 3 жыл бұрын
@@J-Hz For sure. I always sample records for the drums in my beats and the amp envelopes and filters make the mpc one a real beast for sound design. I will say the modulation isn't great especially if you come from a DAW background but it works for simple stuff.
@Dewane1511
@Dewane1511 3 жыл бұрын
This notion is funny …and I’m really tired of hearing when it come to the “new machine” …
@MS7.7
@MS7.7 2 жыл бұрын
@@milesb9191 Are producers this dumb? This is a genuine question! I've been hearing this sentence ALOT "Too many option in the new MPCs, limitation makes me creative"? I truly don't understand that these guys are real producers and musicians or just 40 years old wannabe??? If you ever go to a restaurant with a huge menu if you know what your belly wants you will choose what you want. If you don't you will be lost and order whatever the waiter suggests if production is based on that then I guess anyone can be a Producer. Just buy the gear and start the roller coaster. PITTY!
@nic3939
@nic3939 2 жыл бұрын
My solution to the mute groups has always just been to play the samples with NOTE OFF. You just gotta time it right and make sure you "overdub" the pads a bit so they sound perfectly played together. (so you don't 'hear' the chops )
@BrancoArgenta
@BrancoArgenta 3 жыл бұрын
I really love the 2000xl but I had to get the 1000 with the JJos XL and it's just incredible!
@vanianbulman
@vanianbulman 2 жыл бұрын
Dang! I really needed this after pining for a 2000XL for over a year with homes of replacing my MPC1000. Really glad this was made, thank you.
@JamBurglar
@JamBurglar 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to get an honest take by an experienced beat maker. Back when you could by an XL with the effects board AND the 8 outs for $500 it made a lot more sense to buy a used XL over the new gear and live with the limitations. That being said, I've convinced myself that there are some sonic characteristics of the XL that are advantageous. Still, those sonic characteristics are probably not worth the extra funds. At the end of the day the exact sonic characteristics of these samplers don't make a huge difference to me (maybe excepting the 12 bit machines). What matters is how you put it all together.
@iantanner7579
@iantanner7579 3 жыл бұрын
Having owned both a 60ii and 2000xl since new, and only recently getting into the new machines with an MPC ONE, - just to see if I liked the new OS, - I have to say, I personally find the older machines feel more like genuine instruments, where as the new units feel more like DAWs in a box, - which is no bad thing really. But I do like the limitations of the older units, and personally, I'm not a big fan of the plugins, effects and pre-loaded sounds that come with the new machines, especially the AIR plugs, they just don't work for me, - I'm not saying they're no good, I just prefer external processing, as it creates a more personal sound, - plus I've been buying outboard since '86. love to ALL, feel no hate AKAI, if you're reading this, Airwindows plugins and Goldbaby wav is all the new units really needed, IMO. And, it's never too late.
@1234DLTS
@1234DLTS 3 жыл бұрын
exactly limitations spawns creativity
@1234DLTS
@1234DLTS 3 жыл бұрын
I like the live tho and I still use my 2500 I love both work flows as well
@EARART
@EARART 3 жыл бұрын
You don't have use them though, can just carry over your old work flow to the newer machines
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 3 жыл бұрын
This is always an interesting debate. With the 8 outputs and external gear (or VST effects) individual sounds can get FX added and mixed externally. To mix in the MPC the FX board does a good job but having the 8 outputs means you have the option to either use or add external FX. The more I research the new models the more I'm intrigued and want to give them a go. My friends who have the X and the Live all like them but our workflows and styles are all different. The 2000XL suits me and how I work. I might borrow my friend's X to see if I like it. The plan is in my head now, lol
@Aliengroover
@Aliengroover Жыл бұрын
When I bought my 2K, it was for drums and sequencing. Using it for sample based beats wasn't the big need. I got it for exactly what MPCs were designed for. And that's the point I think is missing for a lot of these videos. I'm just seeing this one after it popped up under another video. I dig Marlow and some of these creators, but technological advances aside, the newer machines lean ALL the way into the way folks do sample based music now. Manufacturers really didn't grasp and implement features based on how the producers were using them until the period of the XL to the MV. So to me, there's almost zero need to go to an XL or regular 2K over a One or Live. It's not even worthy of a lengthy discussion and I LOVE and still use my 2K 😁🤷🏾‍♂️
@lamonthunt3063
@lamonthunt3063 Жыл бұрын
I own a MPC X ...I don't even use my MPC 2000XL anymore.. I the only thing I didn't add on the MPC 2000XL is the effects board.. I added the 8 outs, and I maxed out the memory. What people have to realize is the technology is different..
@mikevenus4117
@mikevenus4117 3 жыл бұрын
The latest Mpc(X, Live 1 & 2, One) is a great tool for today’s music production. It’s a lot to learn but it worth it. I like some of the older Mpc(2500, 4K and 5k), but it’s not logical to have in my opinion. Great video 👍🏽
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 3 жыл бұрын
I have older gear like the 2000xl and the EPS classic but they're not my main gear to use. I use them once in while for the sound. My MPC Live 2 is my main baby
@mikevenus4117
@mikevenus4117 3 жыл бұрын
@@JEFFMAN90 that’s what’s up! I’ve got the force and I love my Mpc Live2, but the force is my go to for most of my works.
@1234DLTS
@1234DLTS 3 жыл бұрын
the Mpc 2000 XL is an instrument and not only for sampling,so yes if all you do is sample and chop songs (which I do a lot of myslef) then I guess it's basic but still to me it's way more valuable than how you describe it in this video...
@phatplates
@phatplates 2 жыл бұрын
Explain
@mastaboog749
@mastaboog749 Жыл бұрын
i picked up a 2000 classic that had no OS installed, so they couldn't test it other than it turned on. Waiting on a floppy disk to see what's good. Let's hope it already has the EB16 effects installed!
@randomguy6127
@randomguy6127 3 жыл бұрын
Also timestretch.. Man I do a lot of time stretching and it is a breeze with fl studio, I mean I can timestech a sample to make it last for precisely 4 bars for example. Plus you can see exactly how much longer or shorter does the sample need to be on the playlist, you don't have that capability with the 2kxl
@peterkadarmusic9728
@peterkadarmusic9728 3 жыл бұрын
Wow those are significant limitations you pointed out with the XL. I think someone coming from the newer generation like myself would find those limitations frustrating. Thanks for making this video!
@J-Hz
@J-Hz 3 жыл бұрын
yeah honestly the sound isn't even great on the XL. I loved using the XL but I can't go back to it ever since getting the MPC One
@peterkadarmusic9728
@peterkadarmusic9728 3 жыл бұрын
BTW Marlow I think the max ram of the 2Kxl is 32MB???
@nuendo2020
@nuendo2020 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterkadarmusic9728 it is
@JaCardiDark
@JaCardiDark 2 ай бұрын
Dope review, you explained everything very well, simple and able to absorb. 💪🏿
@puzzleneptune
@puzzleneptune 7 ай бұрын
Got mine a few weeks ago for 750 dollars. I think I made a good investment. And yes, I want to use it for what I do. I got one almost in mint condition!
@Airspider23
@Airspider23 3 жыл бұрын
Pad mutes are way my XL collects dust. I can’t sit for hours slicing perfectly while the 1000 works so much faster. Playing out patterns isn’t comparable at all. The XL pads are butter. I just can’t sit there editing longer than creating. Good video 🕸👍🕸
@richibucki
@richibucki 3 жыл бұрын
Mpc live and sp404 combo is the best. I sample and chop in the mpc and send the chops to the sp 404 for eq and fx and send back to the mpc. I prefer the fx in the sp than mpc.
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 3 жыл бұрын
I do it the opposite. I sample into my sp404, add effects then sample into the Live 2 for chopping and sequencing.
@nuendo2020
@nuendo2020 3 жыл бұрын
I do same with ableton and 2000xl i chop everything in ableton and record it in to MP. Than i record from MPC XL back to ableton if i need compression or eq its best workflow ever
@basedvato
@basedvato 3 жыл бұрын
@@nuendo2020 I do similar, just with the 2000.
@NoLimits1if3
@NoLimits1if3 Жыл бұрын
FYI Yes, the 2000 XL can mute each other’s pads
@mpchead
@mpchead Жыл бұрын
up to 2 only, like I said in the video. No mute groups. Thanks
@davidscott2095
@davidscott2095 3 жыл бұрын
Gracias por el video, Marlo. I have to laugh, because I just purchased an MPC2000XL in great condition, almost mint, two weeks ago. But what you are saying is spot on. To achieve a high pass filter, reverb, etc., you will need an external sampler connected to it, such as an SP 404. The eb16 effect/sound board is super expensive, ranging from $350-$400 on eBay and Reverb. And the 8 assignable outputs, the price range is virtually the same as the effects sound board. For the price of the sound board, you can easily purchase a used SP 404 or a used MPC One and have all the effects you'd need. Thank you for the video, hermano. Bendiciones!
@andrewsmyth1652
@andrewsmyth1652 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. Salute
@APMTenants
@APMTenants 5 ай бұрын
You could save your program before you pitch it, and just reload it if you want to go back. Instead of previewing one sound at a time, you can load a program with a bunch of sounds and then just preview them from the pads. I only use my 2000xl for drums and sequencing, so the stuff you’re talking about doesn’t bother me. I also have an s5000 with the effects card. You can go really deep on the 5000. I don’t think the 2000 was ever meant to be someone’s main sampler. It’s a drum machine
@cireirby5359
@cireirby5359 Жыл бұрын
you can set it up to mute pads two at a time per sample
@mpchead
@mpchead Жыл бұрын
Yes that's true
@AfferbeckBeats
@AfferbeckBeats 3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of limitations in the XL, and I think a lot of people buying them at current prices will be very disappointed. Storage is the main thing, and XLs like Marlowe's with the factory flash storage are very expensive and hard to come by. Figuring out your own upgrade from the pretty much useless floppy drive will require a decent amount of experience working with 90s PCs and reading dozens of pages of forums to find out what you actually need and if you can find any of it anywhere. And getting it to be hot swappable is even harder. Zip drive is another option but not a reliable one.
@horriblyodd
@horriblyodd 3 жыл бұрын
I think people over value hot-swapping, and once you leave that behind a simple CF card solution gets you a full gig of storage with none of the limitations of floppy emulation setups. Absolutely the way to go. Still looking at a $100-150 investment for a no effort solution on eBay etc. but I've been very happy going that route after trying all the other options.
@user-rv8wb1nl1b
@user-rv8wb1nl1b 3 жыл бұрын
addonics CF card reader , 20 quid ! and a bunch of 1GB cards. But nowadays just get an X or a LIVE , NO ONE needs a relic sampler nowadays, apart from the Smithsonian.
@johnhenningfield4360
@johnhenningfield4360 Жыл бұрын
the mpc2000xl is still a fun machine to goof around with, I don't care what new gadgets come out lol 😆, that baby can crunch the hell out of some drums though 🎶
@profwaffel
@profwaffel 2 жыл бұрын
On the 2000 you can set voice overlap to mono to acheive what you describe, making use of the envelope to set release etc. Are you saying this is not possible with the xl?
@proned2stoned
@proned2stoned 2 жыл бұрын
(2000XL user here) Yea , it is also possible to do that on the XL and probably what came to mind to those who are familiar with this MPC. Either dude was not aware or didn't care to include that tidbit cuz it would void the first limitation. I would imagine it's the former; he may just not be familiar.
@crazy-cw5cc
@crazy-cw5cc 3 жыл бұрын
The 4000 can do everything you spoke about
@chadpescod-realtor3308
@chadpescod-realtor3308 2 жыл бұрын
I don't miss my XL at all.thought I would but nope. Have a Live and it is all I may ever need. That and a DAW. And some synths and drum machines. And some effects. But that's all.
@brunodiben
@brunodiben 3 жыл бұрын
good vid ( even Im not looking at getting a 2000xl ) the 1010music blackbox I think is a good side sampler, you can filter and also is nice to browse files (compared with mp), small enough to not get you out of the mp
@GT1981IL
@GT1981IL 3 жыл бұрын
I like getting sample and loops build up in XL and record into maschine/cubase for editing
@VinylWave11
@VinylWave11 Жыл бұрын
I have had a 3000 and a 2000. I didn't love them. I do love the MPC ONE and MPC X SE. I have considered an MPC 2500, but for 1000 I could get something that I really want for making music.Thank you for the video, it really confirms exactly why I just will never go backwards. Vintage gear is very cool and I defiantly can see why someone would consider it, but it isn't for me.
@80smusicproducer
@80smusicproducer 28 күн бұрын
Constraints foster innovation and creativity….never more important than this present moment where ai makes almost everything possible.
@rickywashington2594
@rickywashington2594 3 жыл бұрын
The one and xl I have and the work flow of both is quite different. But having that knowledge of the 2000xl made it really fun for me on the mpc one!!
@josecortez5213
@josecortez5213 2 жыл бұрын
Ive owned the xl and it can do magical things. The snares and hats come through the mix like nobody's business. That being said if you sample a sub bass or anything super low frequency, when you play it back it will be lacking some bass. I currently own a mpc1000(very clean)and mpc60mk1(dirty)and have used an mpc3000(just nice) extensively (my friends). The other limitations are actually an advantage.
@J-Hz
@J-Hz 3 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people saying limitations bring out creativity. But most of the time thats coming from a boombap hip hop perspective as mostly samples are used so the 2kxl is great for it on its own. But a lot of the other style of music from the 90s such as deep house, jungle, dnb etc, they used the mpc as well as other outboard gear such as rack samplers, effects modules and synths.
@1234DLTS
@1234DLTS 3 жыл бұрын
some synthesizers or even synthetic synthesizers controlled by a midi controller like fl studios can be considered "limited" if the software used was cracked or free like if you couldn't afford an mpc back in the day you used the MTV music generator 1 like I did to learn Until you could obtain the gear and tools needed. (that is what I was referring to as far as limitations not what a particular peice of equipment can manage) but even in the retrospect I would literally squeeze blood out of a rock and make it work ,and that is why today it seems so easy to do or use them and any gear because of that hardwork, dedication ,passion and diligence to get this good by obstacles limitations provided me.
@miszymat
@miszymat Жыл бұрын
To. Very informative video. I didn't know about these things, now I'm seriously wondering would I be able to switch from mpc one to mpc 2000xl, which is the mpc I've always dreamed of....
@mpchead
@mpchead Жыл бұрын
It's no easy task
@randomguy6127
@randomguy6127 3 жыл бұрын
After making just one beat on the 2kxl I realized how useful fl studio is and I appreciate it more now.. Honestly I need more flexibility.. Think I might sell it for an mpc live or something..?
@orlandoduran2766
@orlandoduran2766 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting both MPC 2000xl & live 2 Retro going back to Akai. It’s what producers do is by doing the “Impossible” and being creative 👍
@poweredbyWatts
@poweredbyWatts 3 жыл бұрын
I think you’re missing the workflow of the 2000xl. Whereas the mpc 2.0 platform allows you to ingest samples and then affect it with filters and plugins, you really have to FEED the 2000xl what you want. Which is why a lot of guys feed it from a dj mixer, for the eq. Anything else you want (compression, post sequencing eq, bus eq/comp), you really use the 8 out add on. Which is why it was an add on, you grow into it. It can still be a beast, but using a modern mindset is going to lead to a lot of frustrations.
@AfferbeckBeats
@AfferbeckBeats 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if I know I want something high passed I'll use the EQ on my DJ mixer. Quite often though I'll do a batch of sampling on my 404, grabbing everything interesting off a record, messing with FX and EQ, then sampling into the XL to actually make a beat. Even if the 404 had a worthwhile sequencer, it doesn't have normal pitch adjustment, and the XL has a really intuitive sequencer that I prefer over every other sampler I've used.
@davidscott2095
@davidscott2095 3 жыл бұрын
@@AfferbeckBeats So if I am understanding you correctly, if you want to high pass filter something, you will do this on your SP404 and then sample it into your XL? I am just trying to understand, because I just purchased an XL. Thank you, Blessings!
@nuendo2020
@nuendo2020 3 жыл бұрын
Excactly
@davidscott2095
@davidscott2095 3 жыл бұрын
@@nuendo2020 Thank you!
@curtis2299
@curtis2299 Жыл бұрын
Guys. I have a 3k limited and you know what I’ve had to recently cop to? The editing features on the classic MPs are 30 year old tech. So… don’t think your doing something “amazing “ by using them! Why chop with them? Just use your faster easier time saving modern day devices, transfer the edited sounds to your old pads and build songs from there. Your not getting the punch/feel/ filtering/timing of a classic MP on todays software. (Sorry. You’re just not) BUT! You can get a honest representation of vinyl samples on your computer! (I mean, when Marlow samples vinyl, you can tell right?) Guess what! You’re listening to it on your computer. AND! You know it’s vinyl. Anything I drop into my MPC 3000 sounds like an MPC 3000! Native instruments expansions all sound the same to me. “Potato chips” I call em. Because the processing is basically the same. But drop a few of them joints into an old hardware sampler and BAM! Same old magic. That sound we love. Using vintage samplers is the same as using vintage hardware. They are what they are and do what they do. Sound fantastic! I could care less about spending all day chopping in the old units. Get your sounds ready on your modern device, then dump em into your classic MP. (Or 950… you can put sterile plastic sounds into a 950 and it’s coming out sounding like the 950.) Life is short. Chop on the new stuff. Filter on the old.😎
@CoolHandLuke5
@CoolHandLuke5 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had this exact blue 2000xl for over 10 years. Looking into getting a Live soon.
@shawnwaters4137
@shawnwaters4137 6 ай бұрын
So what's the best new mpc and thanks for this video
@mpchead
@mpchead 6 ай бұрын
My favourite is the Live 2
@shawnwaters4137
@shawnwaters4137 6 ай бұрын
@@mpchead TY TY TY
@shawnwaters4137
@shawnwaters4137 6 ай бұрын
@@mpchead Over the mpc x special edition
@nuendo2020
@nuendo2020 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my 2000xl last year before prices went up fully loaded for 600€ im so glad i also have maschine mk3 and dont even use it old MPC is much better. I record everything in to ableton so i dont worry about limitations
@kamleshparmar8483
@kamleshparmar8483 Жыл бұрын
I've got an 2000xl just given to me I've set up a music Studio I've been told to go for Ableton I was going with Logic at first ..Is Ableton good to produce Hip Hop beats and is it easy to run with The 2000 xl
@jorgecds
@jorgecds 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... being able to select which pads you want to edit is a blessing then... even Ableton's Drum Rack isn't as accesible. There you can only right click on a parameter and then "copy value to siblings" to apply that new value to ALL pads which is not always what you want.
@bliss3174
@bliss3174 3 жыл бұрын
Mpc + Sp404 still my fav workflow
@hollywoodstudioguy3836
@hollywoodstudioguy3836 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video everything has limitations but there's always work arounds
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
It is what it is, and it works fine that way, doesn't make it worst, it's just it's way of working.
@spedslojp3353
@spedslojp3353 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone please create/update the 2000xl? JJOS? Really want portamento and sample start point control/automation
@blindbabybutterfly
@blindbabybutterfly 2 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as a perfect sampler. It's always a question of how comfortable you the process to be. I personnally have a 2000XL and i figured out how to make sh*t happen despite the limitations. Drums machines have no souls but you can give them a part of your soul. You have to feed your sampler which makes the sampler an extension of yourself, your taste in music, your sense of timing, pitch and velocity. Having a piece like the 2000XL says a lot about your level of thinking when it comes to chopping and flipping samples. You have to get out of your confort zone to master it.
@APEONE
@APEONE 2 жыл бұрын
Aight but what about sound? About unique 2000xl punchy drums, swing etc that 90s flava. Is it worth to buy one just to feel the vintage vibe, just to feel it, touch etc. Im looking for that sound, im not the guy that thinks XL will make my Beats better. I was growing up on music from this device, i love the sound. I have got my own style in beats, u guys Think if ill buy one, ill Fall in love with the sound of it when ill record everything to it? Thanks for answers . Peace
@project-95
@project-95 3 жыл бұрын
The more I look into buying back my sold 2K the more I want a Live II
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
Live 2 bro, it sounds as good as the XL and does way more.
@project-95
@project-95 3 жыл бұрын
​@@mpchead it's a no brainer! I'm just not convinced the XL has any magical sound quality to it to make it worth using the outdated workflow, unlike other 90's machines
@GodsPoetryProductions
@GodsPoetryProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@railster
@railster 3 жыл бұрын
The mute thing I think is possible, but limited to only two other pads. So if the pads are one after the other, than it can work. If you juggling around pads combination than it's going to overlap. So in that case there is the second choice of mute, but that's about it. Having the 2kxl and a sp303 or 404 or whatever and resampling cutting the bass freq. can help to don't get everything cluttered in the lower frequency, as there is only the low pass filter available. These comments about the hipass filter are completly no sense. At the end I think there's a lot about been listening and checking to use the right sounds! I have just repaired my 2kxl and i can't wait to use it to resample my projects already done in Ableton to maybe found more simplicity. Softwares leave you to create lots of channels/stems, in here the point is to do 4 programs or fewer more to than playing around and have a simple structure. In software I tend to spend ages doing little fixes (comp, eq, delay, reverbs, parallel comp, sidechain) but if the song is trash, than is easier to delete it, and start with a better one! Sometime I take too much time on soft to try to make better something that is so-so. You can't ask to this machine to do too much, but for what they do, and the sound palette they offers I think it does pretty well.
@Cubanitoloko
@Cubanitoloko 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, dont understand why you say that the samples dont cut the other samples of another pads, because on your videos and others doesnt seem that. Great video
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I didn't explain well, I am saying that you can't change the entire program to monophonic and you don't have mute groups. The only thing that you have is the option to mute up to two pads per pad, that way you can gave a certain control over the mutes but it really isn't a good workflow.
@Cubanitoloko
@Cubanitoloko 3 жыл бұрын
@@mpchead thank you. It is more probable my english fault than your explain. Thanks a lot, your work is dope
@Diddddu
@Diddddu 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you can make all 16 pad cut each other off i know this machine with my eyes closed.Dope solid unit.
@BlackRoomMusic
@BlackRoomMusic 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. It's an instrument, and he don't know how to use it.
@smiauu
@smiauu 3 жыл бұрын
great reminder of why i sold my xl years ago
@andreaghirardello5270
@andreaghirardello5270 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a question. Why people use more drum machines to make beats? For example, you got the 2000xl, you got the mpc live and u have the mpc X. I think you should make a video about it
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the idea Andrea 👍🏼
@christiankaiser8126
@christiankaiser8126 Жыл бұрын
Efx board, another mpc or sampler, and 8 outs are a must with the XL for most producers.
@ericdunn1113
@ericdunn1113 2 жыл бұрын
With all that was said against the MPC 2000xl , every time you played a sound on it verses the newer unit I still prefer the Sound of the MPC 2000xl.
@djsmartmonkey
@djsmartmonkey Жыл бұрын
16 bit
@KAUTIOUZBEATZ4
@KAUTIOUZBEATZ4 Жыл бұрын
Me 2 crunch sound analog
@e.p.shepperthbeats387
@e.p.shepperthbeats387 3 жыл бұрын
A while ago i buy one. But i struggle to learn the MPC 2000xl. Can you make some tutorials?
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
I have one on Chopping samples.
@zachmcintire2189
@zachmcintire2189 3 жыл бұрын
Mute groups from my experience, though I recall you can control the polyphony and or mono cueing.
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
poly mono just for one pad no the entire program
@MessiahofEvil
@MessiahofEvil 3 жыл бұрын
@@mpchead put one long sample on a pad use velocity to start to define ur regions, use 16 levels velocity, pad to mono to create auto cutoff grouping
@plateoshrimp9685
@plateoshrimp9685 2 жыл бұрын
@@MessiahofEvil nice tip!
@menikmatimoe
@menikmatimoe 3 жыл бұрын
Just got the MPC 2000XL two months ago and I feel what youre talking about :-D I'm used to the MPC Studio along with the MPC Software, so the workflow without filtering and stuff is kinda new to me... I don't have an audio-interface right now to track out my beats, but i'm thinking about tracking out my beats to the DAW and then mix/filter it there...which audio-interface and DAW to track out beats from the 2000XL would you recommend? btw I don't have the efx board and the 8 outs installed
@heniousdelvon
@heniousdelvon 3 жыл бұрын
Any Daw will work. You just need to get an interface that’ll allow you to track out 8 tracks at a time
@menikmatimoe
@menikmatimoe 3 жыл бұрын
@@heniousdelvon Nah, that wouldn't give me benefits, because my XL only has the 2 stereo outs. With that I only have the oppotunity to track out one track at the time. Does this mean I have to re-sequence it all in my DAW? Would love to see a video of Marlow tracking out his beats from the XL to his DAW
@heniousdelvon
@heniousdelvon 3 жыл бұрын
Well then just use midi…. That’s how i have my XL set up in pro tools. I make the MP the master then i arm a track in PT and print it in there. It’s Always a work around
@TheEdub1
@TheEdub1 3 жыл бұрын
What do u have your Bpm set at? I make boom bap & lo-fi I think I need to change mine from 120 to around 95.
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
Around 86
@ntotheizm
@ntotheizm 3 жыл бұрын
first touch and contrast of sound quality between two, and you want to buy 2000XL
@Towly263
@Towly263 Жыл бұрын
thx!
@danielsolomon63
@danielsolomon63 3 жыл бұрын
Will the JJ OS not add all of these features you mentioned that the original OS is missing?
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
I wish, but JJOS is not working with the 2000XL or any older Mpc.
@danielsolomon63
@danielsolomon63 3 жыл бұрын
@@mpchead daaaamn! i could have sworn it has a version 2000xl also but no :(
@Mikeppodcast
@Mikeppodcast Жыл бұрын
Are these limitations so even with the JJOS?
@mpchead
@mpchead Жыл бұрын
XL doesn't have OS
@Mikeppodcast
@Mikeppodcast Жыл бұрын
@@mpchead Ahhh ok wow, thank you. I'm learning. Which classic MPC would you recommend? I'm looking at 1000, 2500, 5000
@anakuron
@anakuron 3 жыл бұрын
have you found any apps that you could use to create pad sets and transfer them to mpc2kxl, or are you just purely using it as a standalone? there used to be some like the mpc editor but it doesn't seem to work anymore
@multipreach2674
@multipreach2674 3 жыл бұрын
I recently sold mine, I got £500 and it was in mint condition, kind of gutted I sold it but it was just sat gathering dust. They are good but very limited on there own. Looking at maschine mk3 now.
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 3 жыл бұрын
I would've kept it bro
@multipreach2674
@multipreach2674 3 жыл бұрын
@@JEFFMAN90 yeah I've just seen what they are going for, Im tempted to buy a classic to get back in that game again, hopefully a bargain will show up they always do if you hold out.
@BlackRoomMusic
@BlackRoomMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Everything he said you can't so, you can do it on the mpc 2000xl
@bad_parent
@bad_parent 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the blue MPC gang
@TrisFTW
@TrisFTW 3 жыл бұрын
sampler on the side works a treat! get one with a good compressor like the Roland SP series and resample, make sure get a SCSI2SD to make life easier (mimics a scsi HDD). The limitations get the creative juices flowing!
@lfx1382
@lfx1382 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to the producer “exile” . His instrumentals will give you an idea of what the mpc2000xl can do. You can make amazing beats with it if you can work around the limitations.
@BritoWorx
@BritoWorx 3 жыл бұрын
Will you ever get the S2400?
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
IDK, the last thing I need is another sampler, I wouldn't mind trying it out though
@prufrockrenegade
@prufrockrenegade 3 жыл бұрын
I now understand why so many 2k users love the SP-404 or 303. They really complete each other workflow wise. The MPC 1000 with JJOS (my daily driver) pretty much fixes all these problems though
@mrp2787
@mrp2787 3 жыл бұрын
Mpc1000 jjos2xl and ya laughing ay mate
@nuendo2020
@nuendo2020 3 жыл бұрын
Soundwise 1000 is so thin i only use my xL to beef up the sound especially if i resample to 12 bit. Its great for house music and boom bap. I use ableton for all other stuff even new mpcs are a joke compared to ableton imo
@mrp2787
@mrp2787 3 жыл бұрын
You can bit convert on a mpc1000 from 16bit all the way down to i think 8bit. You can even do them all in 1 go or convert them all differently. I do like the sound of mpc 2k straight out the box though, its deffinetly different
@kwake7861
@kwake7861 3 жыл бұрын
The 2k XL is able to choke/cutoff poly/mono samples but its a bit different. Like pitching it is one by one and you have the think which chops you wanna play (and in which order). and great video btw. 😊
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know you can choke/cut off up to two pads per pad but I am saying the entire program, all the pads at the same time or mute groups with more than two pads per pad. Anyway I hope there could be someone with the codes for this like JJOS to at least change that. Thanks for tuning in bro
@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw
@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw 3 жыл бұрын
@@mpchead its actually possible to create 2 mute groups with 7pads that all cut eachother, but its veryyy deep, if youre interested i have made a written tutorial about it ;)
@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw
@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw 3 жыл бұрын
Okay now halfway through the video you mention it. Its actually 7 pads max. Per 16pads you can have 2 separate groups :)
@AfferbeckBeats
@AfferbeckBeats 3 жыл бұрын
@@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw Another way is just to assign the same samples to more pads and have different mutes for those pads
@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw
@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw 3 жыл бұрын
I uploaded my tutorial : www.kosk.ee/xlcut it might look really tricky but you can totally do it and save your program on floppy/sd.
@kromrecords
@kromrecords 2 жыл бұрын
Watch STU BANGAS make beats with the MPC2000Xl and you will see that its all we need.
@RP2134
@RP2134 3 жыл бұрын
The polyphony is not true though bro. All u gotta do is do autochop in the edit window where u adjust the envelope. Everything doesn’t have to be note off/on or trigger mutes. But yes …when I went from the 2000xl to the MPC Live, I felt like I jumped 150 years in the future. Not even joking lol. I would NEVERRRR not use the Live or X again. Best machine ever
@vintagestereos
@vintagestereos 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. Sold all but one of my vintage samplers and am focusing on learning the Live. It has everything and I can crank out beats so fast without getting bogged down in file management, tedious chopping, etc.
@SKRDyaheard
@SKRDyaheard 6 ай бұрын
I’ve dislikes the new MPC’s as I come from Elektron… but I just bought an old 2K XL…
@juicehead777
@juicehead777 Жыл бұрын
I bet the new generation would struggle with a late 90s to mid 2000's production set up trying to produce beats. Makes me wonder if a computer, was taken out the picture. If it would cripple the production of a new producer on them not knowing how to produce or make beats without a daw, software/ plug ins, or computer monitor. Can they adapt and work off gear thats limited? Rely on their ears instead of a visual? It might step up their skill and creativity...
@user-rv8wb1nl1b
@user-rv8wb1nl1b 3 жыл бұрын
Nah , sold my STUDIO 2000XL, got the X and the LIVE , sooooooooo much better . NO need for a XL now . . . . .
@vintagestereos
@vintagestereos 3 жыл бұрын
The Live and XLs are the same price, and often the Live is less expensive. For features and workflow the Live is so much better for me. I can't think of a single advantage that the XL has over the Live. Bit that's just me.
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 3 жыл бұрын
Ya the XLs are overpriced nowadays.
@swipejones5754
@swipejones5754 7 ай бұрын
You worried about the wrong stuff ex & compression lol man please. One thing about it if you jammin you jammin, the mpc 2000xl is the best only second to Roland tr 808
@1234DLTS
@1234DLTS 3 жыл бұрын
I think I spoke to soon before I watched the whole video I get what your saying now Marlow I never used a 2000 XL more than twice I use 2500 live and MV8800 I get what your saying about the polyifany peace
@shmokey59
@shmokey59 3 жыл бұрын
i have the 4000 ppl say its trash and limited unlike the modern mpcs etc but i believe that just comes from people not knowing how to fully use it in ways that doesnt seem possible.
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
There's a 4000 selling here, I really wanna grab it but he's asking too much, 2000€
@yoooohooooo
@yoooohooooo Жыл бұрын
lol everyone styled like how we grew up
@ericdunn1113
@ericdunn1113 2 жыл бұрын
THE 2000XL is for the BEAT MAKER, it's more of a Drum machine before a Sampler.
@ayyubfaiyaz3368
@ayyubfaiyaz3368 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew how to make beats, man, for real
@ttttiiimmy10bit
@ttttiiimmy10bit Жыл бұрын
I hate the 2kxl workflow and would only bother cos it has amazing sound/timings. I hate the new mpcs bc they sound rubbish and thin.
@mpchead
@mpchead Жыл бұрын
Only thing I dislike about the XL is no audition while the sequence plays
@godric8225
@godric8225 3 жыл бұрын
hi-! :)
@noaim6956
@noaim6956 3 жыл бұрын
😭 but I love my 2000xl
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
I love my XL too
@XekeStyle
@XekeStyle 3 жыл бұрын
A few videos about mpc beats, I know that for you it is the same as the hardware, but for me it is still unattainable, therefore I am satisfied with the pc, that's why I implore you to make some more videos about the software, so you I'm going to be able to get all the juice as far as I can from the computer, thanks dog! I don't miss a single video of you, even if I don't understand shit hahaha but I learn more by watching, than listening ...
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
What software? the Mpc software? The mpc works exactly like the software, everything I do with the new mpc you can do in the software, it's the same.
@jerry-rk7yw
@jerry-rk7yw 3 жыл бұрын
no
@DJRTP
@DJRTP 3 жыл бұрын
The only limitation is the person using the machine, I get it, new technology has advanced drastically BUT with all the latest bells and whistles on today's MPC's i.e. massive ram + HD and mute groups etc , the industry still lacks creativity. Kanye West still uses an 2000 and has produced hundreds of hit records. Not the machine it's the user.
@Dewane1511
@Dewane1511 2 жыл бұрын
Kayne dosent still use a 2000 ...
@mladakmica
@mladakmica 3 жыл бұрын
I will buy 2000xl from you no problem bro :)
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
Not selling :)
@lukeisprvkt
@lukeisprvkt 2 жыл бұрын
the new mpc's are toys. these old ones take patience . kids these days want short cuts. pirate sample packs and its effortless to make ok sounding beats.
@PM-nw4dv
@PM-nw4dv 3 жыл бұрын
My MPC 2000xl can do everything you said it can’t do. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. FOH
@mpchead
@mpchead 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 3 жыл бұрын
Smh what a stupid comment @PM2-6
@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw
@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw 3 жыл бұрын
@@JEFFMAN90 dude must be trippin
@AfferbeckBeats
@AfferbeckBeats 3 жыл бұрын
Tell us about the high pass filter on the XL bro...
@PM-nw4dv
@PM-nw4dv 3 жыл бұрын
@@JEFFMAN90 The features that you said the MPC 2000 XL didn’t have are almost exclusive to the machine itself. For example One shot pad mode which allows you to mute the next pad hit creating a smoother transition. You said it couldn’t do that. 16 levels mode etc… Using the filter decay and resonance to create high and low pass filters. The MPC 2000 xl is a very capable machine that does everything you said it couldn’t in your video. Misinformation.
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