The Linkin Park Situation Got Worse

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danframpt0n

danframpt0n

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@That1MetalheadDude
@That1MetalheadDude Ай бұрын
Ultimately, it kinda sucks the return of the band was pretty much instantly overshadowed by controversy. That's my primary takeaway.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Hard to disagree with that
@Dinkbass
@Dinkbass Ай бұрын
Well she also sucks as a songwriter. No Chester no park
@Chron880
@Chron880 Ай бұрын
thats this era for you in all honesty. Media thrives off controversy, its stupid as fuck i know but its the truth sadly
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0nthere are some very informative and telling essays about the accusations against Masterson, how Cedric and Christina have been harassed by the aforementioned goons and what not. Truly chilling stuff, that also exposes Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com Ай бұрын
No one ever cares about Dans of the world cooking attention-seeking s--- up. She's amazing. Cope.
@DonivanCurtis900
@DonivanCurtis900 Ай бұрын
A Scientologist replacing Chester Bennington is horrible. Chester fought for mental health up until his death, Chester was even working on something to expose some pedos if I remember correctly. And especially given why Chester is gone and why they had to get a new vocalist, it being someone like her is pretty messed up. I trust Mike Shinoda and hope he knows something we don't or removes her from the band assuming this is all true.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
I'd like to trust mike too. I think he heard her voice on the tracks and chose to sweep. That's just my speculation tho
@tereiseccles9610
@tereiseccles9610 Ай бұрын
Mike was the one who hired her.
@davidkosiba624
@davidkosiba624 Ай бұрын
​@@danframpt0nYou really think Mike was just like 'She sings well let's hire her without doing any research on her' lol You can't be serious , He definetly knows something that we don't but there are reasons why he himself don't share it , maybe she will soon, I would not trust media these days at all, what we know for sure is that Mike was a very close friend for Chester , he is not the kinda guy who would disrespect Chester with a new member who was indeed like how the media is trying to paint her, or if he is indeed that shitty of a person then millions of us are terrible at judging people? Highly unlikely
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com Ай бұрын
It's not her who's seeing her as a scientologist. She's a singer. Cope, and stop cooking h8 up.
@xParasytez
@xParasytez Ай бұрын
i feel like mike won't do anything
@baturalpegekastas6461
@baturalpegekastas6461 Ай бұрын
we need a mike shinoda statement about this situation
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
At this point, I agree
@sleepycatz101
@sleepycatz101 Ай бұрын
Hopefully a statement from Mike will shut people up
@Ianmitchellmusic
@Ianmitchellmusic Ай бұрын
Hopefully tomorrow or Tuesday before the tour
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0nthat’s what I’m saying
@humanman9920
@humanman9920 Ай бұрын
​@@sleepycatz101Why ? U care about shutting people up over not taking bad people in the band ?
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Ай бұрын
Chef tried to warn us about that fruity little club
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
all hail xenu
@kyussfan6
@kyussfan6 Ай бұрын
Funny how we don’t see DC-8’s anymore…
@baddopamine
@baddopamine Ай бұрын
As a lifelong LP fan I appreciate you’re digging here Dan, I’m off the 2.0 train if she IS exposed as an active member. The back catalogue and new tunes won’t have weight or merit from a member of that cult playing them out. Good work Sir
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Much appreciation
@timsunderland5153
@timsunderland5153 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say he did a lot of “digging”. Where in Cedric’s post did he say that Emily wrote a letter to support Danny Masterson???? This guy Dan Frampton is an absolute flog and I have caught him out before for making shit up or getting stuff wrong.
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
How did Linkin Park even pick her!?
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com Ай бұрын
Voice, her beeing a good person & not asking cr3tins on KZbin?
@theradiantdehd3997
@theradiantdehd3997 Ай бұрын
Supposedly she’s friends with Mike. I had a lot of reservations going in, but hearing the song they dropped, I actually found myself really liking her voice and the direction. Granted, what little I saw of the live performance didn’t work. I don’t think her voice works well while singing Chester’s parts, it just works well next to Mike’s and with Linkin Park’s music behind it. All of this though is bringing all of those doubts right back though. I usually don’t think that one’s political opinions, whether or not they’re a victim of a cult, or past controversy that they have explained away should really be held against a singer unless they’re ranting about those very things at concerts, in songs, or on social media, but holy hell is it damning if she actually wrote a letter and still supports Scientology after seeing the horrific abuse that goes in behind the scenes. I was looking forward to November to see what the new album would be like, but holy shit this is bad.
@theradiantdehd3997
@theradiantdehd3997 Ай бұрын
@@GEMSofGOD_comWriting a letter for court in support of a monster, and remaining staunchly Scientologist AFTER seeing the horrific abuse that occurs behind the scenes is pretty damning.
@hakancarlsson2881
@hakancarlsson2881 Ай бұрын
​@@GEMSofGOD_com She's a Scientologist. Enough said. The antithesis of what Chester stood for.
@heinthantko9024
@heinthantko9024 Ай бұрын
@@theradiantdehd3997if she is not a scientologist also it’s wrong to put her in this situation by addressing the drama and painting the cult in bad light she could get hurt and if she doesn’t say anything people will think she’s still in the cult they pushed her in a corner here
@SchnitzeIkuchen
@SchnitzeIkuchen Ай бұрын
It keeps getting worse.I am wondering if this is the reason why Rob left the band ?
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
It is raising more questions yep
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
I have questions like this and more!!
@DaP84
@DaP84 Ай бұрын
Hopefully no other LP member has joined
@laxbum40ify
@laxbum40ify Ай бұрын
I think this was a terrible move by linkin park.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Not their greatest
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0nlol
@ChrisHarnessTV
@ChrisHarnessTV Ай бұрын
Ya know, I’m pretty sure that Abraham Lincoln hardly spent anytime in the park. He was probably too busy doing presidential shit.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Lmao I heard that too
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
lol
@trypl3372
@trypl3372 Ай бұрын
Remember that she’s under Scientology and that her mother at the least is still in Scientology. If she publicly says things that Scientology doesn’t like, they could force her mother to disconnect from her. If you even publicly say that you left Scientology, they consider you an “enemy of mankind” and a suppressive person. Scientology could truly destroy all of her family and friend’s connections if Emily says something that Scientology doesn’t like.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
right so why respond to any of it then?
@slomo3035
@slomo3035 Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0n Because she's getting harassed and bullied into it. It's absolutely vile how people preach Chester's morals, but go and insult her in the worst ways, conspire to spam her with messages and so much more. None of those people are true fans and should keep Chester's name out of their mouths period. I'm not defending her, but people should get checked when they say things like Chester would not have wanted this and is turning in his grave while going around and being the exact type of person that Chester never liked.
@KickSilverOMG
@KickSilverOMG Ай бұрын
@@slomo3035 What were Chester's morals? i don't know his
@tcoxy
@tcoxy Ай бұрын
If anyone I loved was in that rubbish cult I would proactively disconnect.
@AngelsandWolves1
@AngelsandWolves1 Ай бұрын
The problem though is that she was born into it, so if she speaks out publicly, she could be cancelled, or even threatened, like Leah Remini was. She knows that and possibly doesn't want to take the risk. It's not as simple as, "oh, you were in a cult, you're a shitty person"
@Bruno-lr9lm
@Bruno-lr9lm Ай бұрын
What a lot of people here seems to forget is: that girl is also a victim, not in the same way as the rape victims but she's still one. She's a second gen scientologist, which means because of her parents choices , she was born in this and she's been brainwashed since her young age, all her friends and loved ones are in this crazy cult that she was led to believe was righteous in some weird ways. Masterson, for example, lets say he was her friend for many years and never attempted shit on her, totally possible she REALLY thought he could never do that, might not be the case, but still possible. The church might have forced her to support him, we don't know much except these 2 facts: she was a scientologist ( maybe still is nobody knows for sure at this point) and she supported Masterson at least once ( for what reasons? facts are still unknown, we can just speculate). Being related to scientology is clearly not a good thing for her but everything is so shady and unknown right now that mostly everything said these past days are opinions and judgements no real ''facts'' except some weird messages from a fellow scientologist (well, ex). People who have never been in a cult or personally know people in cults can't understand how hard it is to accept all you were taught and led to believe all your life are lies, accept the fact that your own parents and majority of friends are pieces of shit and add to that even if you realize all this, getting out is one of the most difficult thing you're ever gonna do or try to do. This girl is a victim in her own way, even if she doesn't know it yet. PS: I'm not defending scientology or her reprehensible actions if she ever did any, I'm just stating that we're far from having all the pieces of the puzzle required to jump on her throat the way the vast majority of ''fans'' did the last days. Always 2 sides on a medal and a shit ton of gray, the world ain't black and white.
@KrzeK
@KrzeK Ай бұрын
I recommend watching video called 'Internal dox show Linkin Park's Singer has a Scientology Spy Wing Mom - Scientology Spy Files #25' (aired today) from channel 'Blown for Good - Scientology Exposed'. It covers the topic in respectful manner from ex-scientologist. People should remember that people recruited into cult were at their low - searching for something good to believe in. Emily's mother was harrassed, tortured and abused by current cult leader David Miscavige into submission. The people working there are probably not bad people, but they were brainwashed and twisted by horrible morals of cult's teachings. If you want tldr on her mom's situation start about in 1 hour and 20 minutes into the video. Solution is not simple and all I can hope for is that Emily can gather strength to go against this shitty cult, maybe not yet, let's give her time to gather strength. Yes, Emily supported rapist in one and only hearing she attended to, but she thought he was her friend at the time and I don't think he went about saying how he was conducting SAs 20 years prior. She cut ties and that's important (forgetting to unfollow someone on instagram is blown out of proportion by online people). On the other hand her song speak sometimes subtly, sometimes not so on mental issues, being unsure how to deal with the card she's been dealt with and how she has a special relation with her mother. Her only mistake that really shows up is attending and being in the crowd at the hearings. For me Chrissie's and Cedric's relations on this don't align 100% and from my understanding in Cedric's take she was not in the intimidation crowd. Chrissie is on personal vendetta for Scn and I don't blame her, but sometimes it's just spewing venom from her. Remember: you can't bully someone out of a cult, these people need help
@dambawwe
@dambawwe Ай бұрын
how is she a victim since she lives that way and does what the cult says ? :))) BRO WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH A CONSCIENCE YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM
@Bruno-lr9lm
@Bruno-lr9lm Ай бұрын
@@dambawwe you clearly have no idea what it’s like being born in a cult… she’s been brainwashed with a shit ton of non sense since a young age, you think ahead chose this? Yes she’s a victime too just not the same. Stop seeing the world in black and white.
@Bruno-lr9lm
@Bruno-lr9lm Ай бұрын
@@dambawwe clearly you have no idea what being born in a cult implies. It wasn’t her choice to join she was forced into it and then got brainwashed for several years, yes it makes her a victim just not in the same way. Stop seeing the world only in black and white, you miss a lot of shit doing so.
@lairely6208
@lairely6208 Ай бұрын
@@dambawwe Guess you have never been manipulated and/ or threatened by someone in your life who is much more powerful than you? Regretting things you did a while later? We just don`t know how deep she is involded, if she is. And we don´t know what she really wanted to do, or maybe was pressured to do. Also, she is lesbian- or bi, spoke openly about mental health and depression...she does many things the cult don`t want. Scientology IS powerful and unscrupulous. There is a realy good chance she was/ is pressured, especially when she has family within the cult. you can do things you don´t want to do when the pressure is high enough... And yes, that makes you a victim in some way.
@rayperrault1538
@rayperrault1538 Ай бұрын
Bro I was so excited for this new chapter on their career..... But the more that comes out In all of this the less I even want any part of what they are doing now. Like I watched the Livestream the other day and was so hyped but now..... This is some BS frfr
@fissi0n470
@fissi0n470 Ай бұрын
It’s not 2024 drama unless the notes app gets involved 😅
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Lmao that's facts
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
The music you have playing over top makes it so much more intense 12:38
@F1faPlay3r
@F1faPlay3r Ай бұрын
i never knew there was drama holy shit the internet
@Jacksonnnnnnnnnnnnn
@Jacksonnnnnnnnnnnnn Ай бұрын
Internet? Never heard of her
@vibetech89
@vibetech89 Ай бұрын
She is far better than Taylor Swift and the rest of all the female popstars.
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
I still can’t believe Ashton and Mila wrote letters for him either. When I saw that, they also went in the trash 🗑️
@agspr
@agspr Ай бұрын
why wouldn't they, though? they knew him as someone completely different from what he was accused of being. you don't throw your friends under the bus because of accusations. what if it turned out to be false, or he was acquitted? I mean, tbh, i don't know the details of any of it, but I can see them supporting their friend through a tough time, and I can imagine they probably see things differently now that he's in jail.
@hakancarlsson2881
@hakancarlsson2881 Ай бұрын
Scientology literally tell people with mental health issues to do what Chester did instead of getting help. How is this even a discussion?
@CinFireball
@CinFireball Ай бұрын
If she was OUT, she would empathetically say that's true. Take Jason Lee, he clearly says he's left the cult & moved to TX. Easily found here on YT. She's still in, very guilty, and a true believer. GTFO with this bs! I don't support *any* Scientologists, no matter who they are.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
agreed
@KT11204
@KT11204 Ай бұрын
She's not out. All the evidence points to her being in still. Still connected to her sciento family and friends, supporting Masterson , etc...
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com Ай бұрын
Well, I'm in. I like The Master, Tom Cruise is very cool, and who are you?
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com Ай бұрын
I'm a scientologist now ☪️
@argflores
@argflores Ай бұрын
I guess we are attacking for their religious choices. Every religion has their haters. I personally don't care what people do in privat, as long as they are not preaching it to me.
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
This just keeps getting crazier and crazier
@petesematary
@petesematary Ай бұрын
More like Linkedin Park amirite
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
You are right
@Jacksonnnnnnnnnnnnn
@Jacksonnnnnnnnnnnnn Ай бұрын
Lickin pork
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
I’m infuriated by her
@ashleighashcraft7068
@ashleighashcraft7068 Ай бұрын
Hey, so, the letters others wrote are out there, how do we find hers? *If she wrote one. I have an issue with her response, however, my father's family was very deep in a cult, and I read her response as newly disconnected. She is 2nd generation, and leaving a cult isn't as cut and paste. I need receipts from both parties.
@alishapenny
@alishapenny Ай бұрын
Everything she doesn't address (literally any claim from some rando on the internet) automatically means "admission of guilt"? wtf kind of take is that
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Then why address anything at all? The gaps she left in her statement can be seen from space. If you're accused of 2 things and only deny 1 of them what do u think that communicates?
@YodaWannabEE
@YodaWannabEE Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0n She addressed the important issue of not supporting masterson. Who gives a fuck if she's a Scientologist. Every religion is cult-like in a way and they all have bad people. Look up Kenneth Copeland. One of the most awful humans on the planet and he's a Christian "minister". Honestly if she isn't harming anyone, and if she wants to be in it, who cares? My god the internet is whack with blowing shit out of proportion...
@OlafThorbjorn
@OlafThorbjorn Ай бұрын
She looks like RAYGUN
@artapex7686
@artapex7686 Ай бұрын
I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt here. There's a lot of stuff that is still incredibly questionable surrounding all of this, but if there is something else going on behind the scenes, I understand why she wouldn't want to air out all of her problems in one post, especially if there are members of her family involved with everything. For me, it has nothing to do with religion. It has more to do to making sure that her well-being is safe, especially if she has a strained relationship with ppl based on this cult. Still, an apology may have been nice, but since it's still a developing story, I'm willing to ride things out and see where it goes.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
I can't wait to see where it goes
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
The fact that she has to stay silent for safety due to her cult should speak for itself and what she’s part of
@ncdozer3103
@ncdozer3103 Ай бұрын
It’s not a religion it’s a sick cult, to not say you’re out of it plain and simple means you have no right to be in a position of influence, it’s dangerous
@brusli1732
@brusli1732 Ай бұрын
Chester is gone, Rob is gone, Brad couldn't be bothered enough to even show up live anymore. At this point this is Mike releasing his solo stuff featuring a bunch of randoms and labeling it Linking Park for more clout. Linking Park died in 2017 and this was nothing more than the confirmation.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
I get that perspective. Thanks for sharing
@smurxxx0910
@smurxxx0910 Ай бұрын
So the misfits pretty much
@AceKing-h3j
@AceKing-h3j Ай бұрын
You proved the point I wanted to make. After Chester died, Rob is gone and so is Brad, the majority of the OG are not part of the band anymore. So LP is gone. This is just Mike using the LP name while it’s actually a different band.
@XxxAshHazardxxX
@XxxAshHazardxxX Ай бұрын
​@user-co1yr5fw8c so basically a Brendan Urie/P!ATD situation
@AceKing-h3j
@AceKing-h3j Ай бұрын
@@jøy_what_riley_loves_the_most Not really. They were known for their experimentation and even in their newer albums, it still had that classic LP sound that you knew was LP and I won’t hold them wanting to grow against them. This wasn’t a Maroon 5 situation where they sold for the $$$.
@blindinsanity5733
@blindinsanity5733 Ай бұрын
So this is my first time here. I’ve never been a huge fan of the band, Chester was a great vocalist but they just weren’t my thing really. That being said, it’s crazy that they brought in someone like her, if it’s all true. If it is I’m not listening to anything new by them.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
It's hard to know what's true. We can only come to out our conclusions based on what little we have.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
🍒🍒🍒 let's get the cherries going! this is the cherry chain. reply with picked cherries. 🍒🍒🍒
@rayperrault1538
@rayperrault1538 Ай бұрын
🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒
@shanesmith2853
@shanesmith2853 Ай бұрын
🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒
@ether_sect
@ether_sect Ай бұрын
Linkin Park dies with Chester. This whole thing is a disgusting cash grab.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
It's definitely something
@DaP84
@DaP84 Ай бұрын
@@jøy_what_riley_loves_the_most why that specific year?
@berrisfueller6221
@berrisfueller6221 Ай бұрын
​@@jøy_what_riley_loves_the_most I respectfully disagree.
@DaP84
@DaP84 Ай бұрын
@@jøy_what_riley_loves_the_most okay, so it's just your opinion LP died after that. Sure, it's a great album. But so is A Thousand Suns. Living Things has it's qualities also. And Hunting Party is great imo. One More Light has def grown on me a lot.
@jøy_what_riley_loves_the_most
@jøy_what_riley_loves_the_most Ай бұрын
@@DaP84 untrue because they sold out completely after minutes to midnight
@Jonnyism
@Jonnyism Ай бұрын
Time to write something metaphorical like a Mars Volta lyric because my mind is just disorganized word salad all the time: Cedric Bixler Zavala just released the kraken on Elevator Emily. I don't understand how Linkin Phoenix, who, tried to rise from the ashes, didn't know or care about her backstory. How the Hell could you do an oopsie? You had one job LP! Sure, her singing and screaming are great but Lzzy Hale, someone who is pro mental health, unlike scientology, would've been a better fit, and this is LITERALLY coming from a dude who is sick and tired of therapy not working, I can't seem to get a diagnosis of anything for TEN years yet I show symptoms of mental problems, it just is too unspecific I guess, but anyways, less of me, I may not be fond of therapy, mental health, FOR ME, but I still advocate OTHERS to get help, that's a BIG difference between me, and a scientologist. YOU DON'T make a half @$$ apology, Kamala Harris once said her mother told her to NEVER do anything half @$$, also I don't care which side of politics you side with but I just think that quote is hilarious because it's true. This whole thing, from the countdown, trolling us with a countup, then it's revealed Linkin Park has a new female singer, so the rumors were true, but she supports someone like Danny, literally, Stinkin Fart gets reincarnated in 2024 and gets CANCELED in 2024, literally within a day, lol, time to find another body I guess. The body is just a vessel like what your cult teaches, right, Elevator Emily?
@codingtranquility
@codingtranquility Ай бұрын
The word of the day is "Gate Keeping", whenever I say "Gate Keeping", you know I'm watching Dan Frampton
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
lmao hell yeah
@manson9083
@manson9083 Ай бұрын
Not gate keeping you fool, more like truth hurts huh.
@eatinglightning3144
@eatinglightning3144 Ай бұрын
No cap
@_frogerino
@_frogerino Ай бұрын
@@codingtranquilityyou okay bud?
@codingtranquility
@codingtranquility Ай бұрын
@@_frogerino iiight you made me feel weird about it, mb
@lol858lol
@lol858lol Ай бұрын
This is getting dark…. 😢
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Many twists and turns and I'm sure we're not outta the woods yet
@lol858lol
@lol858lol Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0n 🔥 🔥 🔥
@JRam998
@JRam998 Ай бұрын
This whole thing is crazy tbh
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Dude. Agreed and I don't think we've seen the last of it
@JRam998
@JRam998 Ай бұрын
Whats it with celebs these days and always being involved in controversy and drama? Is it that hard to just be like a good person?
@bmcorp8352
@bmcorp8352 Ай бұрын
This is so funny and sad at the same time. Cedric Zavala as Guardian of Justice. Honestly, I don't care about this case, but seeing this forgotten star fight for a little piece of attention, I don't understand one thing. Does Cedric remember the circumstances under which he joined the Church of Scientology? I remember his active time there very well. It's nice that he writes like he's not ashamed of that time. His actions are now long overdue. But as I see, his wretchedness remained the same. Some things may still be searchable on the internet. Cedric, please. Stop being a hypocrite and admit that everything that happened to you and your wife is all your fault. You're fine with insults, but you have no right to talk about others when you're even worse. And again. No, no one is interested in you anymore. If someone has hurt you, contact the police or the relevant authorities. You don't have to make a fool of yourself in front of the world and people who know your past. BUT.. Maybe we can wait for the next Top Gun movie and Cedric can tell us something spicy about Tom Cruise. Anyway, love each other, have fun and don't talk nonsense.
@KT11204
@KT11204 Ай бұрын
She can't go into detail without risking being kicked out. She is a scientologists currently, her mother works in the national office.
@nameless10802
@nameless10802 Ай бұрын
Dan should've been the new Linkin Park singer
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
hard agree
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
👏🏼🙌🏼👏🏼
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com Ай бұрын
​@@danframpt0nsing
@standinsilence
@standinsilence Ай бұрын
​@@danframpt0n But Dan their music is horrible?! 😮
@matturner6890
@matturner6890 Ай бұрын
Out of curiosity: I'd like to see you doing something like Finn McKenty's or Rock'n'Roll True Stories' band retrospectives but with the actual care and attention the bands would deserve (I think most of the people who do those types of videos, for lack of a better term, suck at it). I feel as though you'd knock that out of the park if that's your thing. Any plans for anything like that in a longer format? I'm tired of hearing the typical school-book-report delivery of damn-near every supposed Rock KZbinr and you are the antithesis of that IMO.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
dude, that's so nice. you're right, mckenty and rock n roll stories so suck. lol
@Commandercolt44
@Commandercolt44 Ай бұрын
She didn’t apologize but she admitted fault which is a form of apology
@honigdachs.
@honigdachs. Ай бұрын
An "admission of guilt" in regards to what, exactly?
@ragingbab000n
@ragingbab000n Ай бұрын
I got through about 3 minutes. I don't dislike you or anything. I'm not even sure if you're for or against Emily. I'm just so tired of this shit drama and want to listen to good music. I like their new music. That's it for me.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
sooooo youre choosing to sweep. Got it 👍
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
Yeah, so you’re basically saying you’ll support an artist if you like how they sound even if they are doing heinous stuff with and have 💩 behaviours!?
@miraaen
@miraaen Ай бұрын
@@trashcanjam No. He said , he will listen thier music until an accountable person comes out and shows real evidence about she is a shitty person ,meanwhile let these "trustmebro" storys just slip to a valid place , aka trashbin.
@melissabloom536
@melissabloom536 Ай бұрын
I don’t even give a shit about this band. I’m here for your critical thinking skills, and the way you research and express an argument. You read! I appreciate your content.
@xbocanegrax
@xbocanegrax Ай бұрын
Hey Dan, what’s your favorite hockey team?
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
the Habs
@xbocanegrax
@xbocanegrax Ай бұрын
LETTTSSS GOOO HABS!
@zero6902
@zero6902 Ай бұрын
The weird part is i just realized that they probably had more then a year to figure this out but they didnt. Because when did the orgy singer throw out that rumor?
@ashtraydekay6624
@ashtraydekay6624 Ай бұрын
spot on
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Thank you
@asheeqq
@asheeqq Ай бұрын
I hate the internet for spoiling my excitement for their comeback
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Your ire is misplaced
@kFY514
@kFY514 Ай бұрын
Just a hypothesis: maybe she has nothing to do with the things she's accused of (hence nothing to apologize for), is no longer affiliated with Scientology (and no, even if her parents still are, that wouldn't count), but just *doesn't want to escalate.* If you respond to Every. Single. Accusation. that's being thrown at you, it'd just instantly turn into a dumpster fire and you wouldn't even have time to do anything other than responding to those. That Zavala guy may be a troll for all we know. That's of course just a hypothesis. It's also possible that Emily is indeed a bad person who did horrible things. Who knows. But a) the idea that "not responding to accusations confirms them" is just completely backwards, b) I guess she (like any human being) deserves some benefit of the doubt - since when do we assume that a person is evil the moment anybody says something bad about them? Also, Cedric's post doesn't even say that she wrote any kind of letter. "I'm suprised none of you wrote a letter on Danny's behalf" sounds more like "why don't you go and write a letter to defend your r**ist friend", like a hypothetical to me. There is no wording in his post that would explicitly mention any actual letter written in the past, and you clinge onto that sentence as if it meant that.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Thank u for this. I hope someone takes the time to read it
@alejandroluna1272
@alejandroluna1272 Ай бұрын
She doesn't even sound good 👎
@Alptraumification
@Alptraumification Ай бұрын
why can't people just enjoy the fucking music
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
lmao
@brusli1732
@brusli1732 Ай бұрын
Cuz she sucks at that too?
@ColvinBlog
@ColvinBlog Ай бұрын
Cause it kinda isn't good anymore ?? Linkin park was finished along time ago, so this is all just weird....
@davidkosiba624
@davidkosiba624 Ай бұрын
​@@ColvinBlogI am a huge LP fan and I do prefer HT and Meteora by far but why should they stop if they still enjoy making music? The new song with Emily is actually not bad, yes it is not Nu Metal anymore but it is a good song, better imo than pretty much anything from One More Light except Heavy
@SpeedyMckeezy
@SpeedyMckeezy Ай бұрын
enjoying LP rn is like enjoying junk food despite knowing it's bad for you
@noxfun534
@noxfun534 Ай бұрын
I JUST GOT A NEW BAND NAME FROM THIS!!! Thank you Mr idubbbz
@AlexKawa20
@AlexKawa20 Ай бұрын
OK, for starters, you misread Cedric's comment. He specifically said that she did NOT write a letter in support of Masterson. Beyond that, I think her statement was fine. She clearly said that she was wrong to support him, which is all I can say I needed to hear. Also, you mentioned how the "church" goes after members who publicly criticize Scientology. Maybe that's why she's not mentioning it directly, because she's trying to protect herself and her family. Finally, she's openly lesbian and has written songs with Dead Sara about mental health (including some references to religion), both of which are big no-nos in Scientology, so I'm comfortable concluding that she's not a hardcore Scientologist. I'll still support the band in their comeback.
@ether_sect
@ether_sect Ай бұрын
Nope. She sucks and so does her cult. Linkin Park is dead
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Thank u for your comment
@verngamesnslop
@verngamesnslop Ай бұрын
Scientology in how they behave sounds about the same as the Pentecostal Church I grew up in. Hot take you can pursue spirituality outside of organized religion which are cults. They even have solo independent auditors of Dianetics, outside of the church that are like free lance tarot card readers.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Thank you for that perspective
@verngamesnslop
@verngamesnslop Ай бұрын
​@@danframpt0nyou have a good take down of Emily Armstrong and the Goon Squad. It could be a double entaundre do we know the OSA aren't pron addicts as they cyber stalk their haters?
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
8:27 yep!!!
@josiah3229
@josiah3229 Ай бұрын
Literally was about to post sane thing w same time stamp😂
@lodoublet
@lodoublet Ай бұрын
Dan. Atdi vs Mars volta. Who you got?
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
at the drive in by a country mile but mars volta rules too
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
15:14 so so real. Chills.
@TorridPrime217
@TorridPrime217 Ай бұрын
All I knew about the situation is that her singing isn't too impressive
@nunomuacho446
@nunomuacho446 Ай бұрын
"Cause there's a fire under the altar I keep on lyin' to, I keep on lyin' to". Are you smart people reading the lyrics of the track? Weird that the Mars whatever dude suddenly rises from the hole he lived in right when she's introduced... Like she didn't exist before
@misterragnar2521
@misterragnar2521 Ай бұрын
how are you doing
@dinohunter1792
@dinohunter1792 Ай бұрын
this is where it ends no more waiting
@Eliza1073
@Eliza1073 Ай бұрын
Scientology NO! This besmirches Chester's music, his work for more mental health help, and his fight against child abuse. This is no longer Linkin Park. No wonder Brad left the band.
@biggie4380
@biggie4380 Ай бұрын
Brad is still gonna be on the album he just isn't going on tour 😂
@darrylax3311
@darrylax3311 Ай бұрын
So do we get a LP rock opera album about Xenu the Space Opera in the vein of Phantom of The Paradise or more like Rocky Horror?
@mikicamima7156
@mikicamima7156 Ай бұрын
Great video. Nice elaborated. Please change the fart sound, briefly I was listening to it out loud in public, people thought I was farting.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
It's not a fart it's the regular show theme
@mikicamima7156
@mikicamima7156 Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0n Nevetheless, sounds like a fart
@stephanieamare
@stephanieamare Ай бұрын
There's this kind of BS thing at the moment, is all of the apologists and those desperate to be supportive--just totally dismissing the concerns of people who were initially onboard, but now troubled by all of this. I've had my own mental health struggles, I'm trans and pan, and just not comfortable with someone who still has Scientology links, fronting the very same band that made me put down a razor blade (stopped self-harming) and pick up a guitar, 20+ years ago--I promoted and was featured by a music production program called StageLight when they had an LP Edition (it was around the time of Living Things). They'll dismiss all of this as just hearsay and there's "no evidence", and throw you in the group of "sexist". Fandoms are wild, man. Almost like a religion or cult in and of themselves; have to like and accept everything, can't criticize or question anything. If you do, and don't follow blindly, you're not a fan and/or scum of the earth.
@CommandoMuerto
@CommandoMuerto Ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest not a single punk ever cared about Linkin Park. Too mainstream, whiny, rap metal was way overdone at the time and with so many bands to choose from in the punk and metal genre there was never a reason to give a hoot. Something sketchy with Chester and Chris Cornell being killed mysteriously, other than that it's a streaming pile of mainstream pop shit and over priced concert tickets, they can fuck off to the forgotten abyss of early 2000s forgettable music.
@LoZeroPwalker
@LoZeroPwalker Ай бұрын
Amid all the excitement, let's not forget that Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in a single game in 1966, leading the Polk High School Panthers to the city championship
@Darko42000
@Darko42000 Ай бұрын
also whats your thoughts and opinions on the Chester son rabbit hole with all of this
@AndyLiam
@AndyLiam Ай бұрын
While I respect differing opinions, it’s hard to ignore the disconnect from reality when it comes to defending Emily’s actions. Sometimes, we all fall into the trap of misguided loyalty.. I’ve been there myself. But it’s important to recognize when something just doesn’t add up
@cencil6497
@cencil6497 Ай бұрын
Get over it, I bet you've done shitty things too
@AndyLiam
@AndyLiam Ай бұрын
@@cencil6497 Let’s get real here. It’s one thing to point fingers, but comparing whatever ‘shitty things’ you think I’ve done to a band making a deliberate choice to bring in someone without auditions, with ties to an organization that goes against everything Chester stood for, is on another level. Emily might just be another cog in the industry machine, doing her job and trying to be part of something bigger.. just like Mike did when Xero was formed. But that doesn’t change the fact that the choice to bring her in, given her background, is more than just a bad call; it’s a slap in the face to Chester’s legacy. And if you’re backing that without knowing the full picture, it’s safe to say you’re a casual fan at best
@wigpig6993
@wigpig6993 Ай бұрын
Do you know im sad to hear that? But I’m happy that they’re back and they’ve been gone for seven years so i’m still happy but bummed because of the situation
@frankbielski9408
@frankbielski9408 Ай бұрын
Sounds like Cedric is jealous that he wasn't chosen to sing for Linkin Park. Give her a chance. We all make mistakes and there will always be haters.
@Thefarbetween
@Thefarbetween Ай бұрын
Cedric singing for LP would be so much stupider
@JuliaOConnell-k6v
@JuliaOConnell-k6v Ай бұрын
I was a Linkin Park fan until all this happened. Growing up in Scientology has all the information
@supercunkodog1838
@supercunkodog1838 Ай бұрын
Hamburger
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Nachos
@ssjfroku
@ssjfroku Ай бұрын
Idk nor care about anything but the voice, she doesnt have the power in her voice at ALL to perform their songs, she sounded horrible smh, linkin park is ruined now until they change, R.I.P. the old Linkin Park, this was a HORRIBLE decision.
@_Yep_Yep_
@_Yep_Yep_ Ай бұрын
It is sad that anyone is under the thrall of the Scientology Cult. I caught the live stream of Linkin Park recent concert and thought it was off the hook, however. Im not a hardcore Linkin Park fan, but the new singer and the band altogether are playing and sounding extraordinary...playing live that good is quite rare for any band. Fingers crossed that the new singer can keep her Scientology out of the spotlight and that the backlash doesnt break up the obvious excellent chemistry the band is currently glowing with. Remember, Emily didnt rape people-Danny Masterson did.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Did she write the letter though?
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
She didn’t but she defended and that’s a slap in all the victims faces. As a woman, to defend a man who is a serial rapist, is like saying Karla Homolka did nothing.. it was all Paul!
@ether_sect
@ether_sect Ай бұрын
Team Cedric.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
I'm just here for the drama. Cedric is serving it up
@johnaponte415
@johnaponte415 Ай бұрын
Btw I dont belive Cedric said she wrote a letter for him. If I read correctly he asked sarcastically if she was gonna have them write letters in support. Not sure who he means by them? Maybe meaning the guys in LP?🤔At least that’s what I remember reading .
@DaP84
@DaP84 Ай бұрын
Nah, this original comment was posted on her original band, Dead Sara's page like a year ago. So I'd guess he means the Dead Sara band members
@johnaponte415
@johnaponte415 Ай бұрын
@@DaP84 That makes sense
@eurotom288
@eurotom288 Ай бұрын
I think she is trying to hard to sound like Chester when singing, maybe I’m wrong guys, take care.
@tinflowers
@tinflowers Ай бұрын
This shit is crazy. 🌭🥞
@Dagameskillcountirisfan
@Dagameskillcountirisfan Ай бұрын
Crazy bro
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Agreed
@PYSCHO_PAT
@PYSCHO_PAT Ай бұрын
The problem is when you don’t have any relationship to the person in real life and think they own you an explanation. To feel that entitled makes me wonder about you. Often those who scream the loudest have their own skeletons.
@utskusushi
@utskusushi Ай бұрын
At least there is some sense in this comment section. Imagine being obligated to respond to every accusation from every random loser on the internet.
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
Sooo…. Are the dudes from Linkin Park addressing and of this!?
@standinsilence
@standinsilence Ай бұрын
The worst part of this is still just how bad Linkin Parks music is. The Mars Volta however rocks my socks.
@IcyBird420
@IcyBird420 Ай бұрын
Nope. 🥞🥞🥞
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
rahhhhh
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
12:00 holy moly whoa 🤯
@DaP84
@DaP84 Ай бұрын
Did she write a letter though? And how is Cederic claiming that? He says he's surprised none of Dead Sara wrote a letter.
@1985Mahone
@1985Mahone Ай бұрын
Dunno about anyone else but it kinda looks like her response started off as an AI generated response. The nature of how it's constructed just seems a bit ChatGPT-ee to me
@KathyWarren-i1i
@KathyWarren-i1i Ай бұрын
That is soooo NOT an apology. Shame on her and shame on LP. She and her "friends" intimidated the victims at the courthouse. Apologize properly.
@CaecEscobar
@CaecEscobar Ай бұрын
I dont get it, hes just saying things she didnt do "your friend do this", so, she didnt do anything, just have awful people as friends, that sounds like 90% of musicians out there lmao
@MasterTurner969
@MasterTurner969 Ай бұрын
Cool shirt
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
s/o johnnie guilbert
@JuliaOConnell-k6v
@JuliaOConnell-k6v Ай бұрын
Scientologists who left the church can confirm all of this.
@maxheilman5314
@maxheilman5314 Ай бұрын
Idk… im sketched out by how people are treating her like she’s a ranking official in Scientology. She seems to be a picture perfect victim… born into such a manipulative and litigious organization. People who think her behavior is psychotic aren’t wrong, but treating her like she wasn’t acting under severe manipulation is also wrong imo. Members of Scientology are no doubt the most harmed by the organization.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
People are responsible for their own actions. You can psychoanalyze the worst of the worst and justify anything using the logic u presented in this argument.
@maxheilman5314
@maxheilman5314 Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0n yeah that’s true… I’m just thinking that, if it’s true she was borne in I’m one to think there’s a lot of layers of spiritual abuse at play in her mind. I know a survivor myself, and she’s still screwed up after leaving like a decade ago.
@premek7734
@premek7734 Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0n It needs to be said that an awful lot of people are simply some kind of copy of their parents, the community in which they grew up. If someone has been living in a "sect" since birth and is presented with the idea that this is the only correct meaning of life, it will be strongly marked in that person. It could be said that after that these people are even mentally ill. If I take a very extreme example, if parents teach their child that raping someone is perfectly fine, he grows up in an environment where he encounters this on a daily basis in the family, and this person later rapes someone, that person has committed a crime, but he is treated completely differently, because he is not mentally and psychologically well. Most of the time these people end up with the parole and have prescribed treatment. I had the opportunity to talk with a person who was raised by his parents in captivity until he was 16. That person in some things, behaved like a person from another planet. The things that we learn in our lives are bad, he was taught that they are okay etc... So then the question needs to be asked, why doesn't she respond to it? Maybe it's all true, she doesn't regret it and just plays a dead bug and expects us to forget about it after some time. Or it was her period that she is simply not proud of, it still brings her mental pain and she doesn't have the strength to face it. I'm interested in how it will turn out, but I don't want to make premature judgments and condemn someone based on his past, which does not excuse her, but still her past is covered up, they are not completely exposed...
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0nthis
@IsleReptilia
@IsleReptilia Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0n victim blaming are we? Neither of us know what actually went on behind the scenes and none of this is compelling proof of anything. but it's 2024, need that good and tasty drama money I geuess.
@Benlovescheese
@Benlovescheese Ай бұрын
Can i just laugh at this now? Seems an absolute over the top joke.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
oh 100% laughable
@dreyablume
@dreyablume Ай бұрын
I appreciate what you're doing!
@trashcanjam
@trashcanjam Ай бұрын
4:01 you’re amazing
@drakoprince7490
@drakoprince7490 Ай бұрын
This is off-topic, but I’d take the AI hologram Chester over any living human. In fact, that closer aligns with the OG LP aesthetic, with the mech cyberpunkish vibes and such. I would genuinely support that direction over the current mess they the band, oh wait I mean Mike decided. Anyway, when half the band steps out, it speaks volumes about Mike's direction with the band. That Scientology money grab probably isn't worth much after damage control, I would imagine. It would have been all good if they decided to start a fresh project like Fort Minor ☠️and not disrespect the legacy of your own. I generally do not care for politics in music or writing, but I feel an inkling of emotion to state my peace since I've rocked with LP throughout my life. I’m nobody; however, when many nobodies share a similar sentiment, you’re probably doing something wrong. Just a weird trivial DEI move or publicity stunt; sure, it works in terms of numbers and newbs paying crazy ticket prices. At least the other band members kept their dignity intact by separating themselves from the dumpster fire. I’m sure what I say will most likely fall on deaf ears; however, Mike, I had respect for you, and I appreciate all of your contributions to LP’s creativity as a whole, but this new reboot is blasphemous. Maybe you don't care anymore, and that's sad, dude, that it's like that because you are already rich and have reached the ends of the earth; what in the world could possess you to defame yourself to this extent? Anyhow, rant over, make penance with yourself.
@fetch008
@fetch008 Ай бұрын
As we can see king Bach has presented a rather large spoon to his friend. The humor in this video stems from the fact that king Bach would like to consume ice cream but his friend resorts at him saying, he can only have a spoonful, nothing more. Bach then suddenly changes his expression and body language and reveals he is indeed in possession of a spoon. And not just any spoon, it is a massive stainless steel spoon. This is funny beacuse you would never expect someone to be casually in possession of a massive spoon to eat ice cream with. It is completely unorthodox and uncalled for. This is why the video is so humorous and was put on the 2012 epic vine compilation
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Hmmmm
@phl33p92
@phl33p92 Ай бұрын
🍒⛏️ER 🍒⛏️ER 🍒⛏️ER 🍒⛏️ER
@kevin-gayrebelamerican8047
@kevin-gayrebelamerican8047 Ай бұрын
And she only disowned Danny, because he made her look bad. And now she's dropped him like a hot potato and telling you politely to shut up and pay for her shit music.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
🫠🙃
@onehellofapunkrockshow6181
@onehellofapunkrockshow6181 Ай бұрын
linkin park has always sucked.
@iblamerichey
@iblamerichey Ай бұрын
She’s a good singer, but I would have loved to see Maynard James Keenan as the new vocalist
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
that would have gone soooo crazy lmao
@iblamerichey
@iblamerichey Ай бұрын
@@danframpt0n Absolutely.
@AngelsandWolves1
@AngelsandWolves1 Ай бұрын
@@iblamerichey I don't think people would have been ready for that kinda heat 🤣
@cyankeemn1
@cyankeemn1 Ай бұрын
I'm just hearing about this yesterday. I am already sick of hearing this over and over. Quoting Governor Walz, "Mind your own business." The issues are done and dusted. Jeez, why is everyone getting all up in arms.
@danframpt0n
@danframpt0n Ай бұрын
Quoting governors in my comment section. Lmao I've seen it all
@ether_sect
@ether_sect Ай бұрын
Horrible comment. 🤮
@idkwhatsgoingon4584
@idkwhatsgoingon4584 Ай бұрын
The same Governor who's family doesn't support him in this election
@cyankeemn1
@cyankeemn1 Ай бұрын
@@idkwhatsgoingon4584 yup, side of family that he never met.
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