6:18 actually suzhou line 11 opens a through service into suzhou line 3 recently. now the train will continue operating until jinsheqiao station on line 3, so there would be map of line 3 on the line 11 platform
@aronyang Жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting, both Shanghai and Suzhou's metro system call this line #11 and connect to each other in a place named "flower bridge".
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
The line 11 metro lengths are 82.4km and 41.3km for a combined length of 123.7km !
@weizhang2834 Жыл бұрын
China government wanted the residents more convenient to work and off both cities
@ChinaSongsCollection Жыл бұрын
Wow! A metro going from Shanghai to Suzhou 👍 How much would a ticket be? (I know it's free today)
@SqridmusZam Жыл бұрын
@@ChinaSongsCollection Shanghai Line 11 from Disney to Huaqiao may cost 10 Yuan and Suzhou Line 11 from Huaqiao to Weiting may cost 8 Yuan.
@ChinaSongsCollection Жыл бұрын
@@SqridmusZam Wow!! So cheap 👍👍
@ainsleyfrastructurekpopmashups Жыл бұрын
Yes, the total combined length of PNR-NSCR might be even more than line 11, which is almost 200km from Clark Airport/New Clark City to Batangas City. Will be the longest metro line in the world, named Manila Metro Line 10, while Line 9 is for Subway connected to PNR-NSCR.
@jasonbeedon9867 Жыл бұрын
Love it! I lived in Suzhou for many years. Love to see the new developments.
@jinifith9 ай бұрын
I rode Shanghai-Suzhou Lines 11 in January from Suzhou Xinqu Railway Station to Caoyang Road Station then transferred to Pudian Road Station on Line 4 in Pudong. I had make a lunch break at Kunshan and bathroom break at Caoyang. It took almost 5 hours. If I waited for high speed train at Suzhou Xinqu for about an hour, I would have arrived at Pudian Road more than 2 hours earlier.
@difuxin72268 ай бұрын
Man you surely got an as*s made of iron
@pharmacist5884 Жыл бұрын
All stations having platform edge/screen doors for security reasons (no more incidents of people falling or worse being pushed onto the tracks when a incoming train might crush you) and for undeground stations reduced running costs for airconditioning for the cold air not escaping into the tunnels.
@pal2011 Жыл бұрын
Wow that's very interesting - transferring from one city's metro system to another, and the cities are 100km apart!
@ainsleyfrastructurekpopmashups Жыл бұрын
Yes, Clark is like Suzhou of Manila, as it has a potential to become a satellite city 80-100km apart from Manila, plus, PNR-NSCR or Manila Metro Line 10, or Pampanga Metro Line 1, will be the longest Metro Line in the World when it opens in 2028 for phase 3, and 2033 for Lucena+Batangas extension, running from Clark, to Batangas port without transferring a train.
@appa609 Жыл бұрын
@@ainsleyfrastructurekpopmashups Nobobdy asked about Manila?
@ChristianWatsonNC Жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see out the front of the train, Tim!
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
Shanghai has about 5 lines like this now, and it seems all new lines being added will be the same and driverless now.
@jjola8663 Жыл бұрын
China's unmanned driving technology is already very mature
@ChinaSongsCollection Жыл бұрын
*@JJ OLA* Some cities in China has already had driverless taxis and driverless 'buses' for more than a year. (The 'buses' are not actual buses. They are more like large vans) Actually I think maybe more like 2 years(?) But previously, the driverless taxis were required by law to have a driver sitting at the driver seat. However recently, I think they've done away with that requirement 👍
@andreyserov46364 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I lived in Anting for about 10 years, unfortunatly had to leave China at the beginning of COVID. Watching your video is just like being back home. Used to ride line 11 every day to and from work. It's pleasure to see how the infrastructure there is progressing.
@troy5094 Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, great video, a fun detail you may have missed: Suzhou Line 11 actually has included Kunshanese (the local dialect) in its train announcements, the only line to do so in all of Shanghai and Suzhou 😂
@olitesla5891 Жыл бұрын
tell me more about this local dialecrt, i cant find anything about it
@troy5094 Жыл бұрын
@@olitesla5891 it is part of wu chinese, which also includes shanghainese, suzhounese, ningbonese and so on. I've seen some people say what they used is suzhounese instead of kunshanese, which I can't tell because I don't speak wu chinese. However, this is an increasingly common phenomenon is southern chinese cities and I just find it quite fascinating
@shiwang8989 Жыл бұрын
We had to take a bus to Suzhou back in 2014. I knew there is high speed train from SH to Suzhou, but coming up metro!? Wow, am speechless🥲
@quanfung5958 Жыл бұрын
Its another level above on Public Transport in China Fantastic !
@Kotsuyosama Жыл бұрын
There will be more super long "metro" lines with single line exceeding 100km at Shanghai Metro in the future. They will use the train that is similar to the HSR train to connect suburbs , satellites towns and neighbor cities.
@appa609 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the metros of Suzhou, Wuxi, Changzhou, Zhenjiang, and Nanjing will end up all connecting together. All big cities spaced about 20km apart in a line. This might eventually become a 200 km + subway line.
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
Do you realize Shanghai on its own is 800km already, maybe you missed a zero ?
@yuey0602 Жыл бұрын
Actually the longest metro line is in Qingdao. Dongjiakou station to Qiangushan station is 156KM.
@donaldliu Жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, thanks for your hard-working sharing the update, awesome! Regards from Donald at Suzhou
@chicken_dinher Жыл бұрын
Great video as always Tim! Actually pretty coincidental timing with Los Angeles' A Line was just reconfigured on Friday to become the world's longest light rail line at 49.5 miles/79.7 km!
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
thank you
@mikeliu-te3vk Жыл бұрын
China's infrastructure capacity is too strong, and in addition, China's transportation facilities in various aspects are also world leading.
@yadusolparterre Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the cost of that is crippling debt.
@mikeliu-te3vk Жыл бұрын
@@yadusolparterre The Chinese government spends heavily on infrastructure construction to facilitate the people, while the US government spends money on weapons to fight, which is a different approach from the governments of the two countries.
@yadusolparterre Жыл бұрын
@@mikeliu-te3vk China spends a bigger proportion of its gdp on war effort. You've been brainwashed
@hanmi1216 Жыл бұрын
@@yadusolparterre I'd better have a debt for construction which is in return can make money from it in the future, than have a mega debt for weapons and arms that makes destruction and enemy.
@yadusolparterre Жыл бұрын
@@hanmi1216 "we are bad but America is bad too so that's okay" Typical wumao
@AmelieZh Жыл бұрын
And with one hour, I'm still stuck in Toronto..., funny how an hour can work
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
I took a book with me, but never opened it, too interesting to look outside on the overground :)
@AmelieZh Жыл бұрын
@@timmytumblerwas it all overground? That's cool
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
No, some of Shanghai 11 is, all of Suzhou 11 was underground (that I took)
@JackMiller-lq4qd Жыл бұрын
Toronto shit, today I was stuck on the bus 19 waiting for the peak hour car flow for 10 minutes on hwy 401, we didn't travel faster than 60kmh on all this hwy route, also tell u a secret, the Eglinton crosstown will become the longest and the most delayed engineering infrastructure project in human history (14 years of time of duration), which added another black history in Canadian history lollll When China and Europe are expanding its transit system, freedom parties Trudeau are still cutting the budget of public transit and want everyone to get a G2 license 🪪
@willqin4628 Жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of what the local public transport office of my city told us several days ago. The officer said 'we are planning to connect to Suzhou by extending certain line'. Who know when the plan will actually been executed like Shanghai and Suzhou did.
@tkyap2524 Жыл бұрын
It's all about connectivity. With such a large population, the railway line will be profitable.
@davidramblerfranca5942 Жыл бұрын
this line will fully open this month!!!😀
@jeffreyINAus Жыл бұрын
Next step ,Suzhou metro authority will connect to Wuxi metro networks, then shanghainese could take metro trains to Wuxi Taihu lake to see Cherry blossom
@enzhus Жыл бұрын
Then changzhou, zhengjiang, Nanjing, hefei? That would be nice 😂
@jeffreyINAus Жыл бұрын
@@enzhus you know everything
@JackMiller-lq4qd Жыл бұрын
@@enzhusjust like u can take a suburban train from London to Manchester, from newyork to pheilla, from Paris to Orleans, in the Western Germany metropolitan areas
@kev7161 Жыл бұрын
@@enzhus But don't the bullet trains already make these stops?
@difuxin72268 ай бұрын
@@kev7161 Yep, but the bullet trains are too fast to stop at all of the smaller towns and villages in between the cities.
@jhuang7736 Жыл бұрын
You should go to visit Kunshan Wenhuayishuzhongxin (Kunshan Culture and Arts Center) Station (Not like Shanghai, Suzhou metro doesn’t really translate name to English, only romanization of station names), it’s really modern and beautiful
Interchange channel in huaqiao station will be opened with offical operation. But i think it's too much time to travelling by metro🤣Next time you can compare with high speed train.
@kev7161 Жыл бұрын
The area between Shanghai and Suzhou also includes Kunshan plus a lot of rural area, yet people refer to these areas as "Suzhou". It's a little confusing. I always think of Suzhou Industrial Park on the east side as the farthest extreme of the actual city, but that may be because it's the farthest east I'd ever been when living in Suzhou. Glad to see the Line 11 connection finally being finished up as it was only being talked about when I lived there about 6-7 years ago. I don't know how it will compare to simply taking a bullet train to Shanghai but it will be good for those who need to get off on one of the many stops in between.
@appa609 Жыл бұрын
I assume nobody would ever take this line from downtown Shanghai to downtown Suzhou when there are fast trains connecting the two? I assume it's more for the people who live in between. Like my grandparents in Kunshan.
@danielderose9378 Жыл бұрын
Why cannot they connect to each other without changing stations? I travelled to China many times. China has modern public transportation, but it is very inconvenient from one type of transportation to others.
@directxxxx71 Жыл бұрын
You simply take HSR
@劉暁東-g3n Жыл бұрын
不是所有都不互相连接的,中国的任何东西都不能一概而论
@cz8935 Жыл бұрын
He has explained it suppose to be connected and the connection place is still under construction. He did show the sign of under construction in the video.
@destiny2020 Жыл бұрын
Because the Shanghai section requires high-density departures, the Suzhou section does not need to be so dense, and usually does not need so many cross-border trains. Merging operations will bring a lot of inconvenience, so separate operations are currently the best solution.
@jupplut6159 Жыл бұрын
Looks like fun for foreign tourist, but need to be patience but quick and intelligent to keep up with the local commuters.
@madhavsankar863111 күн бұрын
What is the total duration of this trip?
@teckmenglee8060 Жыл бұрын
how long did you take to reach Suzhou?
@stvdmc2011 Жыл бұрын
Wow China has great public transportation systems.
@jennyohara4011 Жыл бұрын
Amazing... do they work on these metro lines 24/7 or like here in Australia just 7 hours per day 5 days per week?
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
‘Work’ you mean run ? If so in HK from about 05:30 to 01:00 roughly
@bigmantrue1 Жыл бұрын
So, you got 406+154 = 560 metro stations connected
@JackMiller-lq4qd Жыл бұрын
New York cried
@michaelzm76 Жыл бұрын
I think it will spend three hours from Shanghai People's Square Station to Suzhou City Center...you know the high-speed rail only takes half an hour...anyway this is a special choice for travel another city from shanghai...🤣
@pandabearoceanpark Жыл бұрын
The English signs on the train still have something to be desired. "Suzhou Bolanzhongxin" can simply be translated to "Suzhou Expo".
@seanfish17 Жыл бұрын
Among both government agencies and people there are infinite discussion and argument on the Latin representation of Chinese Place names, and they don’t seem to end anytime soon…
@mutucurry9071 Жыл бұрын
China has the most modern, efficient and affordable subway system on the planet
@mopikozz Жыл бұрын
Just curious as to why would anyone take this route instead of the 30mins high speed rail to Suzhou?
@abdulwaduod11 Жыл бұрын
because its cheaper
@石元峰-u4g Жыл бұрын
would be much better to run a through service, as they will do for suhzou line 3 + 11.
@石元峰-u4g Жыл бұрын
btw, Suzhou line 3+11 runs through services so is more justified as a whole system with length 45+41 = 86 km. If this runs through service with Shanghai 11 that becomes 86+82 = 168, very long indeed.
@georwoogle Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@Nicolas-gy3zf Жыл бұрын
Honestly, why are people forced to transfer like that?
@alextjflorida Жыл бұрын
This is above ground like a regular train.
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
Quite a lot of Hong Kong MTR is above ground
@yankonichshev3249 Жыл бұрын
I am wondering how long did the whole journey take? 2 hours for the one-way trip, I presume?
@wai-shinglam4447 Жыл бұрын
I think it would take 3 hours if fully opened! 🙀
@stvdmc2011 Жыл бұрын
Wow there. Is really no need to have personal car
@wai-shinglam4447 Жыл бұрын
@stvdmc2011 ,better take the high speed rail
@yankonichshev3249 Жыл бұрын
totally! I guess it is useful for those who live in suburbs and need to commute to Shanghai / Suzhou
@destiny2020 Жыл бұрын
Few people will go from the beginning to the end, the high-speed rail is faster at this distance
@rollingdownfalling Жыл бұрын
Definitely do one for Chongqing, one of the most complex and interesting cities to explore due to its mountainous terrain, because one of the stations is in a residential building.
@dokingjonson6173 Жыл бұрын
Crazy.
@chunlee1782 Жыл бұрын
how about the fares
@CatBot007 Жыл бұрын
Metro fares in Asia is cheap af compared to the US
@andrewfu9363 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the city-metro system, western countries really need learn from China.
@handaxia12515 ай бұрын
there's nothing to learn, the technology itself comes from the west and still being used and upgraded. It is "the will" to serve people that counts, there's just no incentive for the leader to do so because they are only in office for 4 years, why bother work so hard to start it when it is somebody else who will take the advantage to present your hard work to initiate it to the public. Remember, These people live in individualistic society, not a collective one, it's a structural problem.
@EnixSpike Жыл бұрын
it cost 25-30RMB from suzhou to shanghai by high speed train and it takes 25mins. I would like to know how much it will cost by metro and how long will it takes😂
@timmytumbler Жыл бұрын
I think the card systems are still split (but not certain), if split then cost from center to center will be something like 5+5 rmb, time from Xujiahui to end of Shanghai line 11 was just over one hour, so overall about 2 hours, and for people in Suzhou to get to Disney then almost 3 (!)
@first8956 Жыл бұрын
they really should have had the two lines differently numbered during the planning phase! maybe, Suzhou should have been more thoughtful in this case unless passengers will be able to continue their journey on the same train in the future.
@kohaku4412 Жыл бұрын
Suzhou Line 11 used to be called Line S1 before it's opened, don't know why they changed it to make it more confusing
@geoffreytang6827 Жыл бұрын
WOW just wow~ ⊙o⊙
@wai-shinglam4447 Жыл бұрын
I prefer to take the high speed rail, instead of Metros, from Shanghai to Suzhou. That's simply too long for taking the metro! 🙀
@thabom9791 Жыл бұрын
It's not meant for those who want to travel straight from Shanghai to Suzhou or the reverse. Those ones can take the train.
@jeffreyINAus Жыл бұрын
Haha,finally you had gone to experienced
@嘉旭 Жыл бұрын
For Suzhou people, it takes too long to take the subway to Shanghai
@noneintel2119 Жыл бұрын
Driverless train is no way in the USA because the UNION will against it , no more union due.
@JP-sg8ng Жыл бұрын
Look at the difference between American trains and china trains stations 😂😂😂 china trains Stations so clear and no drugs people and rubbish all over the place
@jjola8663 Жыл бұрын
Drug addicts in China go to jail and are monitored for life. Drug trafficking is basically the death penalty
@JackMiller-lq4qd Жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future China will also have these social problems, China is the "modern world", USA is the " postmodern" world since 1970s
@kev7161 Жыл бұрын
It makes a big difference when people actually take pride in their surroundings and most parents raise their children to be aware of both laws and considerate living. However, saying that, I saw plenty of people walking around throwing their rubbish wherever they wanted to (when I lived in China). Someone actually told me once that people do that on purpose so the street cleaners will have something to do!
@mfxx888 Жыл бұрын
it's not the longest in the world, this is two lines, which you need to change in between, even though they are both named after line 11, it actually belongs to 2 municipality and running as 2 completely different system, that's why you also need to change from one vehicle to another.
@khanhhung89594 ай бұрын
how can they built so many of these in such a short time? Every shovel for every Chinese male so that they can dig underground that fast?
@perile Жыл бұрын
Tim needs to ask a Cantonese speaking friend to pronounce 花橋/花桥 in Cantonese. ☺
@KinLee919 Жыл бұрын
Why? He's in a Wu region. Not Cantonese region.
@perile Жыл бұрын
@@KinLee919 I know, humor is not your strong point, isn't it?
@MathTidbits Жыл бұрын
should try to pronounce "霍橋" in cantonese instead.
@perile Жыл бұрын
@@MathTidbits Works fine as well, but joke was that the station's name 花橋/花桥.
@KinLee919 Жыл бұрын
@@perile oh i just get it.😂
@henry-pj9zo Жыл бұрын
it takes too much time...
@豪張-n1y Жыл бұрын
One minute?
@andrewzhu5890 Жыл бұрын
You're right. If you take the high-speed train, it only takes 25 minutes.
@Lee-fw3vq Жыл бұрын
test
@seraphium Жыл бұрын
Almost all cities in China like Suzhou [su:dʒəʊ] metro translate all the station names in Pinyin while Shanghai is the only one in China use English as much as possible.