The Loss of the Montreal Locomotive Works | When the New Ownership Ruins You | History in the Dark

[@Sevenfeet0]

You got the pronunciation of Schenectady correct but this is the second time you've screwed up "Studebaker". It's STOO-de-BAKER where the "Baker" is pronounced the same as someone who bakes a cake. And yes, they were the old horseless carriage turned car company that also fell on hard times in the 1960s. They would make an interesting video on their own.

[@HoosierDaddy_]

I've never heard anybody screw that word up, lol. He gets an A for effort.

[@MGower4465]

My grandpa had one of them Studly Baker cars as a kid. Girls loved Studly guys

[@6.7crummins]

On behalf of canadian rail fans, thanks for making this video

[@trainglen22]

Thank you for this video. It's a pity that Bombardier literally destroyed MLW.

[@mrsrmp]

For Argentina MLW and Schenecdaty are sacred places: the first home of the RSD35 (70 units for broad gauge and 40 for meter gauge) and the FPD7 -25 units for broad gauge-, and the latter home of the RSD16 -130 units for broad gauge-, a lot of them still in service today

[@modemdog3649]

as soon as you stated Bombardiér bought MLW I immediately said “oh no…” they have a bit of a history of being well, shit.

[@marcleslac2413]

The m420 canadian cab is the most canadian variant of the the canadian cabbed varients, they were dipped in a mix of the purest maple syrup and poutine gravy you could find.

[@gouzigounette]

Two steam locomotive made by MLW are still active in Europe : 141 R 1244 in switzerland and 141 R 1298 in france. They knew how to make locomotive in those time.

[@haydendegrow945]

We Canadians 🇨🇦 Love this! You should do a top 5 Best Canadian Locomotives next!

[@marcleslac2413]

Oui. He should.

[@gabrielm1420]

That would be great!!!

[@trainglen22]

Definitely!!

[@Elliottblancher]

Yes

[@iBackshift]

If you ever do a "weird car body" video, make sure you get the "Draper Taper" included by Bombardier/MLW [Bomber-MLW HR616] Anyhoo...Mint vidya Bud. 👌

[@aggydaddy]

I worked on the Draper Taper back when I was at MLW and Bombardier Diesel Division

[@callumnichols7652]

When I was in Pennsylvania last year, I say some old MLW locomotives in operation on the Delaware Lackawanna railway. Such an interesting story.

[@prabhatsourya3883]

The Montreal Locomotive Works actually supplied some of the meter gauge diesel locomotives which were used in India, in 1964 - 1968. I think it was before ALCo went under, as the designs were licensed from ALCo and manufactured to make up for the shortfall in orders towards Indian Railways.

[@centeroftheearthmining4095]

Dude your videos are so informative! Great job Darkness!

[@jamesgarrison8066]

You should do EMC/EMD next

[@andrefiset3569]

I lived during my youth not very far from this plant and the tenant upstairs worked there for many years. I know someone who worked there during the 90's when GE built home appliances and later I had a co-worker who also worked there and he told about a large fire at this place which was caused by a coffee machine in a plywood cabinet which was not turned off during the weekend.The building is still mostly standing of what i see on Google maps.

[@rogerevans936]

Mt.Newman mining, Hammersley Iron and Cliffs Robe River Iron all purchased MLW Alco C636s for iron ore haulage in the Pilbara region of Western Australia.

[@iBackshift]

Cartier alcos. Very good MLW chugging. Montreal's "Men without hats" should have done a song "safety cabs" in honor of the MLW 4-clops safety cab [in thumbnail] haha

[@micheltherriault7063]

I was born and grew up near from the Cartier Railroad at Port Cartier . First with the sound of RS18 north bound in full throttle or southbound full dynamic braking. My Grandpa knew when the trains passed and pick me in his car to see the show . 12 years later , the first new MLW M636 arrived and it was so impressive to see. 1979 , my first year of work was repairman on theses beauties! What a joy ! I have worked on theirs sisters ( C630 , C636 and the venerable RSD15 too ! ) . I was so lucky to live this experience. Few years later , I left the enterprise but I always stay in touch with my family and friends working for the company. Alcos locomotives are good locomotives. With theirs defects but theirs quality’s . I can testify they’re was easy to repair. And the black smoke commonly exhausted from others Alcos locos I saw elsewhere in others railroad was not tolerated there . When some of them are took theirs retirement, they are rolled more than 5 million of milles . They are still few of them keeping roll on . For me , the sad ending of MLW was due of lack of vision , money and priorities from Bombardier management. Not bad at all !

[@kiefershanks4172]

Looking forward to all the CP 2816 footage on KZbin. Oh Canada!

[@PixelmechanicYYZ]

The MLW factory does technically still exist.. after they tore it down it was made into a giant rubble pile on the property which I think is still there to this day.

[@michigandon]

I drove by it in 2002?-2003? When most of it was still intact. I distinctly remember seeing two former NdeM E60s parked outside!

[@aggydaddy]

There is no giant pile of rubble. Only one old building still stands. The rest is all modern buildings housing new companies.

[@pkat]

On behalf of American rail fans, never say "Studebaker" again. Ever.

[@martindoyle831]

Hey man. CLC put of kingston On. Was the FM subsiduary not baldwin.

[@bwan13]

Actually, they were a partially owned by Bladwin from 1948-1950. "In 1948 CLC became the Canadian representative for the Baldwin Locomotive Works and its subsidiary, the Whitcomb Locomotive Company. However, both the small number of orders for Baldwin's designs and the troubled Stirling engined-Whitcomb locomotives built for CNR's PEI lines led to the termination of the licencing agreement. CLC then turned to Fairbanks-Morse and Baldwin's shares in CLC were acquired in 1950 by the newly created Canadian Fairbanks Morse."

[@marcleslac2413]

Oh behalf of all the foamers from montreal, Merci beaucoup. For this video.

[@gabrielm1420]

I'm from Montreal alswell and I couldn't agree with you more thank you :)

[@marcleslac2413]

​@@gabrielm1420 one of my great grandad was actually a carpenter at cp's angus shops.

[@gabrielm1420]

@@marcleslac2413 that's amazing! :0

[@Marc_von_Hoffrichter]

Thanks cobber! Great vid. Cheers.

[@wyattwilliams2457]

One of my favorite manufacturers along with Fairbanks Morse, and GMD, the Canadian locos look more interesting

[@michigandon]

And this was not the only outfit Bombardier got their grubby mitts on an proceeded to plow straight into the ground either. Just look at what they did to Evinrude/Johnson!

[@michigandon]

Not that OMC was doing so hot before that takeover of course. Far from it! Yo Darkness, that would make for a good video in its own right, now that I think of it!

[@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd]

Loved it 😊

[@fanofeverything30465]

Could you do an Australian locomotive manufacturer

[@mcmadness110]

Don’t forget the Acela train sets use lrc passenger cars with Alstom tgv locomotives.

[@wakda]

MLW sounds way to german

[@roterakaten636]

Man your english announcement is... questionable. Are you french canadian?? Its stu-de-bae-ker. Not stu-de-bach-er. Baker. Like you bake bread. Bach is what your saying. Like maybach the engine maker, bach the composer.... not correct

[@kellyswoodyard]

The Mt. Newman Mining ALCo 636 locos were built in Australia. At Comeng, in the old A.E. Goodwin plant in Sydney, or Bassendean, in Perth. I think it was an order for 28 or so units. They worked really hard pulling massive export iron ore trains, for a long time, in one of the most hostile climatic areas on earth.

[@mybadluckcharm]

Ungh, Bombardier... they had the Midas touch. No, not that one, the *other* one: everything they touch turns into a muffler. Their past execs should be stripped of all assets, and put to work in abandoned mines just breaking rocks. With wooden mallets. Story of that company would be about as infuriating as some of the fallen flag road stories. Seems to be better since Alstom bought them, you don't hear much about them on the news, now.

[@fedel.g.1803]

*Muy bueno,* acá en Argentina están las locomotoras ALCO RSD 35 fabricadas por Montreal Locomotive Works en 1963. Actualmente varias se encuentran en servicio, la marca ALCO es muy buena, pero GENERAL MOTORS es superior, me gustaría que hagas un video de General Motors, saludos!!! *Very good,* here in Argentina are the ALCO RSD 35 locomotives manufactured by the Montreal Locomotive Works in 1963. Several are currently in service, the ALCO brand is very good, but GENERAL MOTORS is superior, I would like you to make a video of General Motors, greetings!!!

[@rayshowsay1749]

Of quite a bit more consideration in the founding of the L&MW than to fulfill the wish of Canadian railways to 'buy local' was the import tariff on American goods, which at the time of its creation had become 20% to as high as 45%, depending on the specific goods. To be able to enter the Canadian market, competitively, the strategy taken by American corporations was to either acquire an existing Canadian company or start one up if none already existed in that domain; though it may be a wholly owned subsidiary of an American parent tariffs became of little concern. Having a Canadian subsidiary could also open the door to sales to overseas countries with whom Canada had preferential tariff arrangements. The acquisition of the L&MW by ALCo was one example of this strategy, Decades later, GM, for similar reasons founded General Motors Diesel Division in London, Ont., to produce EMD design products.

[@MGower4465]

I worked for a company that aquired their two biggest rivals. Combined revenues over 7 billion dollars. For some reason, they replaced all management with managers from the companies they acquired who were used to captive customers who were locked into exvlusive contracts lasting decades. The CEO got in an argument with an executive VP of one of the biggest single customers - one phone call and tge company lost 1 billion on revenue. The company went from a 7 billkon dollar busuness to bankrupt and gone forever in two years.

[@wasatchrangerailway6921]

The word is FOUNDERING, as in sinking. A FLOUNDER is a fish--- very tasty I might add!

[@0fficialdregs]

I'm looking for MLW N scale Locomotives or locomotive Shells as some of their EMD and ALCO variates are uniquely built. -HR616 "Draper Taper" Locomotive

[@ericcriteser4001]

Stude-BACHER?! Lol Pronounced 'baker'. Good video.

[@connarcomstock161]

>Bombardier shows up *I start throwing things around and flip the table*

[@anareel4562]

Similar story to our aerospace/aircraft industry, cuz America makes stuff.

[@gabetrain8834]

You should do a video about Canadian Pacific 2317 or Steamtown USA

[@shadychandelure2602]

Why do you pronounce studebaker that way its stoo-de-baker just go to the museum man take a tour of it if nothing else you get to look at gorgeous cars for like an hour

[@watchtrainsnow1099]

Very nice video! Most appreciated!

[@masterskrain2630]

Studebaker is "Stewed-a-BAKER", not Stewdabcher"

[@ItKyleBol]

You miss t1a t1b t1c royal hudson and another

[@Sassymouse88]

Phew! Finally a BR-free video 😌

[@ecarots9469]

its Stude ah baker not stude ah bach er

[@owenjones9659]

It’s stude a baker 👨‍🍳

[@TheGs4_4449]

When you’re done for the day, and you realized History in the Dark uploaded:

[@harrisonallen651]

11:27 Dustin from Thomas and Friends

[@wdubbelo]

werkspoor when

[@tomstarcevich1147]

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[@mamarussellthepie3995]

Oof rip lmao xd

[@aggydaddy]

I started working at MLW in July 1966 in the drafting and engineering offices. Stayed in the railway industry all my working career.

[@aggydaddy]

Good to see the turbo train, as we called it "Rudolph the Red nosed train dear" I will have many of the Alco and MLW loco catalogs and souvenir books. Once Alco closed, some of their engineers and drafts people came up to work at MLW.

[@aggydaddy]

I still have my MLW employee card from 1966