The Lost Art of the MCU Post-Credits Scene

[@AdmiraHax]

Nothing will beat Doctor Strange teasing evil Mordo only for this plotline to never happen on screen.

[@Flareguy]

I was hoping multiverse of madness would do it maybe they’re saving it for a later movie but strange knowing mordo is a villain now will make it less impactful plus I hate that multiverse of madness called the mcu earth-616 instead of earth-199999

[@hastnicke_]

he's was going to be killed by wanda in the 2nd movie

[@PapryusMidnight680]

Dont cry spiderman homecoming scorpion end credits scene, I still remember you exist 🙁

[@guccidoggies121]

Ikr when is scorpion coming and he didn’t even metion it

[@DeRockMedia]

Forgot about that one until this comment

[@theeasychannel1288]

Who?

[@BatFan1]

The Thanos reveal at the end of Avengers is the greatest post-credit scene ever. For the average viewer they had no idea what it meant but to comic fans we knew exactly what it was leading up to, and for us imagining the Infinity Gauntlet storyline coming to life on the big screen was mind blowing and exciting as f**k.

[@CrashJakFan1994]

That’s a mid-credits scene.

[@StarWarsomania]

And as an average viewer, it meant I went home and looked it up, and got to enjoy second-hand hype from all the excited comics fans sharing the Infinity Gauntlet storyline.

[@finleymorris04]

Hot damn you’re right, I’d actually forgotten pretty much every post-credits scene after endgame

[@Fantagonistic]

@@finleymorris04 It’s a real shame!

[@RyanLemke-Doyle]

I only remember "you can quote me"

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@FantagonisticI'll say this Makkarri's speed running was the best physically speedster running I've seen in live action

[@calebcold3]

The video is right, the Guardians 3 one is like the only memorable one cause it doesn’t tease something. Same with Johnny getting exposed in Deadpool and Wolverine.

[@kylemorello4787]

I remember Venom in Spider-Man No Way Home. And the wholesome mid-credits scene in Guardians 3. That's it.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Post Credit went from teasing the next movie to desperately trying to find ways to keep you interested on future projects that may or may not happen.

[@DeRockMedia]

So disappointing, at least the joke p post credits scenes aren't giving false promises

[@ramshacklerozza]

Post credit scenes used to act as a hint or a nice little Easter egg of sorts to look out for. But now, post credit scenes don’t hint at anything, they just show us everything

[@Fantagonistic]

@@ramshacklerozza Yep. If they did em then like they so now Thor would’ve just walked out and said hey to Coulson.

[@ryanator7935]

Honestly the only post end game credit scene I remember is Guardians 3 because it’s simple and sweet. It’s an awkward scene but it’s cute seeing Peter trying to finally connect with his father.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@ryanator7935 It’s simple but it added a lot!

[@91MoonKnight]

These post-credit scenes remind me of the OTHER movies with aimless and confusing post-credit scenes.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@91MoonKnight I’m thinking about doing a whole video just about the bizarre DCEU ones.

[@91MoonKnight]

@@Fantagonistic Should definitely do it. It would make for one hell of a video

[@Gyparty]

I miss the old mcu phases

[@Fantagonistic]

We all do 😭😭

[@SirsasthNigam.]

We all miss how Inhumans killed MCU twice in Sep-2017 Before Endgame: Razzies (0%-50%)- Inhumans (11%), Iron Fist S1 (20%) Razzie dodgers (51%-70%)- Incredible Hulk (67%), Thor 2 (67%), Both Punisher seasons (62% & 68%), Iron Fist S2 (55%) Oscar dodgers (71%-90%)- Iron Man 2 (72%), Iron Man 3 (79%), Cap: First Avenger (80%), Cap 2: Winter Soldier (90%), Daredevil S2 (81%), Jessica Jones S2(82%), Jessica Jones S3 (73%), Luke Cage S2 (85%), The Defenders (78%), Thor 1 (77%) No MCU project after Endgame has been a Razzie (0%-40%)

[@redshot5403]

@@FantagonisticI remember following every movie since 2012s avengers. Always hyped for every project that followed. Now I’m only focused on the ones I want to see, I skipped over eternals, Agatha, and the marvels as a result

[@Fantagonistic]

@ I think a lotta people feel that way and it’s a bummer. I miss being excited for every new project!

[@aurahoneydew9607]

Agreed Avengers were in better hands with Paramount(of course of that era). With Disney they just wanted to burn through what paramount planned before relegating the Avenger stuff to a Disney subsidiary.

[@knightofkorbin888]

Easiest fix for Iron Man 3's post credit scene in my mind is Hulk's Age of Ultron purple pants in the background. That and maybe some sort of tease for the Hulkbuster. Showing Tony Stark was upgrading the Avengers as his next project. Which ultimately leads to him creating...

[@Fantagonistic]

@@knightofkorbin888 Them working on Hulkbuster armor together woulda been a good one.

[@silversrc]

6:18 Refers to Ronan betraying him and dying from the power stone that he was sent to retrieve. Imo its one of the best ones, even better than Avengers 2012. It has a double meaning, while he's most likely referencing Ronan, Ultron failing to destroy life on Earth, makes it seem like Tony was right to worry, there is someone else who will do it, and worse.

[@dannypalin9583]

The post credit scenes after Endgame either go nowhere or just showcase how haphazard and unorganised everything is. Shang-Chi has the titular character meet up with Bruce Banner, Carol Danvers and Wong to talk about the Ten Rings. No Way Home has a “Gotcha” moment with Venom at a bar getting teleported back to his own dimension but part of him gets left behind. Multiverse of Madness has Doctor Strange get ordered by some chick wearing purple to fix an incursion he caused. Love and Thunder has Zeus decide to dispose of Thor by siccing Hercules on him. Bet you all of these ideas they tease get canned.

[@stevenmcburney8167]

Of course they get canned. Cuz they planned these at a time where they were even more naive and stupid to think they could pump out more than they could make. To wrap all these plot threads up before the next avengers is impossible without MAJOR changes at marvel

[@BoldFollower]

"it's morbin time" pwahaahahahhaha worth the wait.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@BoldFollower I will jump outta my seat if they do this!

[@DeRockMedia]

Sony will do it as a wink but not realize we are still laughing at them not with them

[@kawaiiqueee]

What makes me disappointed in the Doctor Strange end credits scene was the fact we were left very confused with Mordo being a villain that was resolved many years later. I also feel as if the Ant Man and Spider-Man No Way Home's original end credit scene was wasted as well. Especially the Spider-Man one. A trailer to Multiverse Of Madness that released less than a week later

[@Fantagonistic]

@@kawaiiqueee The trailer ones are the worst!

[@dannypalin9583]

In the original script of MoM, it opened with Mordo going to Wanda's cabin, intending to either kill her or take her powers away because of Westview. She would then kill him and present his decapitated head to Strange. In the actual movie, Mordo is mentioned in a throwaway line to his Earth-838 counterpart. All Strange had to say is that his Mordo tried and failed to kill him countless times. Which is more insulting? Using Wanda to kill off the threat the first movie set up? Or saying that, throughout Ragnarok, Infinity War, Endgame and No Way Home, Mordo was still at large and carrying out his crusade but it wasn't important?

[@Viftie]

I think the problem isn't in the post-credit scenes themselves but rather that even nobody at Marvel seems to know what is going on next in the MCU.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@Viftie Yep, just a symptom of a larger problem.

[@resenasarirmz6909]

Ngl, I love staying to watch the credits not much for a post credit scene but for the music on them, is like rewatching the movie while talking about it :)))

[@mettatonex7221]

I used to want mid or post credits scenes to hype up the next project, but now I just kinda want them to do their own thing or provide some closure, like what Guardians 3 or Deadpool and Wolverine did. Because I'm just at the point where I'm wondering when we're going to wrap this all up. Endgame was the perfect climax to everything that was built up to that point, and anything after that should have been focused on making sure each remaining character ended in a good place, not keep expanding the universe and story.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I'm gonna disagree about Endgame. I thought it was poorly written and outright lazy. It didn't even feel like it was made by the same people that made Infinity War. Honestly, very disappointing.

[@regalsamyt1849]

The old MCU was linear and knew what it wanted to tell. The new MCU is kind of all over the place with no single thread.

[@Daljitkaur-p4k2z]

This video deserves a lot more recognition . keep it up !

[@Fantagonistic]

@@Daljitkaur-p4k2z Thank you!

[@Jobroski47]

i think the "fine ill do it myself" post credits scene would have worked better in gardians, cause of whats his name not giving thanos the stone

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Exactly, i think it works, but it's in the wrong movie

[@avatarmikephantom153]

I think my favorite post credit scene was Kong Skull island. You think all of the connections to Godzilla 2014 were likely setting something, up but then you see Godzilla, then Rodan, then Mothra. And then we get Ghidorah. It was fantastic to set up king of the monsters.

[@IncredibleFulk1]

Me too! Such a badass post credits! So happy the MonsterVerse still going strong.

[@OrangeToadGamer]

I've been saying the same thing, I even commented on one of the Phase 4 post credit scenes saying *"How can you guys even get excited for these anymore?"*

[@crimsong8068]

There was legitimately an ad for "Spiderman: Far From Home" that went "Spiderman: Far From Home has the most epic post credit scene ever" (or something among those lines, it was 5 years ago). Even then, I was like, "Ready? Are you that confident in your success that you're not going to tell me about your movie?" I gotta admit, I do miss the days old days of Marvel. Every time a movie ended, you already couldn't wait for the next one. The only Marvel show I've liked recently is "Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur" and it's telling that an animated non-MCU Disney channel show is currently better at storytelling. And ironically, season 1 ended on a cliffhanger with an intriguing post-credits scene!

[@kawaiiqueee]

That was Venom 2. Sony didn't have much faith in it so they had to tease Spider-Man appearing at the end

[@Fantagonistic]

@@crimsong8068 It’s a common mistake nowadays to hype up the hype instead of the actual content of a movie.

[@callmestorm23]

This is why the MCU and Marvel Studios NEEDS to take a year or two long break after Secret Wars. They need to stop releasing or announce any projects, and just take a year or two long break. During that time, Kevin Feige should organize a core creative team that oversees each project, hire writers and directors that are willing to be collaborative and showcase a new chapter in the massive story of the MCU. They also need to boost the minimum wage of VFX artists and wait till the VFX is finished BEFORE they release trailers and announce release dates of films and shows. Each film/show is meant to immerse the audience. How are the audience going to be immersed in your project when the VFX looks unfinished? The Flash, She Hulk, Josstice League, Thor Love and Thunder, etc are some Marvel and DC films that suffered because of this problem. And yet Disney and WBD don't really seem to care, and that is a major problem. When projects DO get the right amount of time and care, you get Godzilla Minus One, Avatar 1 and 2, Avengers Infinity War, The Avengers 2012, Michael Bay's Transformers, King Kong 2005, etc. These are majorly successful films that managed to immerse the audience because the VFX was finished and had love and passion behind it

[@Fantagonistic]

We've gotten so used to bad effects I find myself shocked when they're even halfway good now!

[@callmestorm23]

@@Fantagonistic This is major problem. We're in 2024, approaching 2025. Back in the late 2000s, we would ask ourselves on how much better will CGI be in the future for movies, and we would always tell ourselves that it's only gonna get better...what happened man? 😔

[@Teenpool2009]

Yeah man. This really just proved Scorsese's point. He didn't hate Marvel and DC movies, he just don't like how the directors and the writers don't have some freedom to make good stories. Some movies and shows should have been their own thing even if they take place in the same universe. The Daredevil show (which is now canon to the MCU) is good because it is it's own thing and doesn't have to tie in the movies. Phase 1 did have some post credit scenes and set up but they are just their own thing (same said for almost all of the X-Men movies). Heck, the Raimi trilogy was good (almost) because Sam Raimi had the time and freedom to make it a good movie (atleast Spider-Man 1 and 2).

[@theCantinafan]

I personally think Quicksilver and Wanda's post credit scene was really good.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@theCantinafan I thought it was cool too. But I knew who the characters were already, so I was happy to see them.

[@robchuk4136]

Same

[@buccaneercat]

One thing they teased in The Avengers 1 secret scene that sort of but also kind of didn’t come to fruition was when they said Thanos would need to “court DEATH” (who was Thanos’ very motivation in the Infinity Gauntlet storyline from the comics) to take on his task of wiping out half of human existence… but as time marched on, Thanos’ MCU motivation became one of misunderstood noble intentions of balance, harmony, and universal survival. In the source material, Thanos did everything for some Deathussy…Thanos wasn’t some noble man that took on the burden of saving the universe the hard way… he was The Mad Titan, a villain through and through, who acted selfishly for his own benefit. The character of Death never showed up until Agatha All Along, and now Thanos is dead and gone. So what’s the point of bringing her in all this time later? I guess she could still wind up with Deadpool, now that they’re both in the MCU, and have source material history. Bottom line… in a way, the secret scene for Avengers 1 did it’s job and lead us into the Infinity Saga… but it also was never FULLY realized until 12 years later with a Disney+ spin-off series that finally brought Death herself into the franchise… now for ultimately no reason other than “look, it’s Death! Thanos/Deadpool’s girlfriend”

[@Fantagonistic]

@@buccaneercat Yeah, I like MCU Thanos, but it’s a shame to change him so much from his original character. Bringing Death in now in the context of Agatha is just random to me.

[@banjo1126]

The Infinity Saga also had movies at the end of each phase to lead into. All of the phase 1 movies led naturally to Endgame. All of the Phase 2 movies led to Age of Ultron, and what was leftover in that was dealt with in Civil War. Phase 3 led to Infinity War and Endgame. Phase 4 and 5 don't really have that final bow to "end" the phase, except for maybe Thunderbolts*? But that's too little, too late.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@banjo1126 Yeah, that was such a strange choice.

[@RayMcElroy50]

Hollywood really needs to stop with sequel baiting They're no longer worth it

[@DozerfleetProd]

That's not even getting into how the entirety of Agents of SHIELD was completely wasted.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Dude, they did a better job setting up things for the MCU than any of the Disney+ shows.

[@teddy_scott36]

What’s crazy is that I didn’t even know they were entering Phase 5 because all the previous phases ended with an Avengers movie

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Still kind of crazy that Captain America didn't do anything when the President was kidnapped in Iron man 3

[@whysoserious5507]

Now Marvel makes movies to drop post credit scene

[@Fantagonistic]

@@whysoserious5507 Sometimes it feels that way.

[@russwilson4229]

This was an awesome video. Thanks for the content!

[@Fantagonistic]

@@russwilson4229 Thanks a lot!

[@Jobroski47]

if you have seen transformers one, it has a fantastic set of post credits scene, one comedic one and another which sets up a sequel. smth modern marvel typically hasnt done the latter

[@petermj1098]

Animated movies and shows are some reason better written than live action adaptations these days.

[@DeRockMedia]

“I think it’s been steadily great since Endgame!"

[@vimalmathew2679]

Outside MCU, I think Fast 5 & Fast 6 too had really solid & shocking post credit scenes...

[@Fantagonistic]

True! The Jason Staham one really surprised me!

[@picvegita]

Fantastic work! I look forward to watching more of your stuff

[@Fantagonistic]

@@picvegita Thanks! I look forward to making it!

[@wallywonka808]

This content is just as good as any of the bigger channels, awesome job!

[@Fantagonistic]

@@wallywonka808 Thanks a lot!

[@TheGeekzNetwork]

I understand what Marvel is doing with the MCU’s Multiverse Saga, they’re just trying to find ways to appeal to those who are only fans of Marvel’s most recognizable characters that wishes they’re in that cinematic franchise. That’s exactly what Marvel is doing now, they’re just like “Hey. People hate the Infinity Saga because of the lack of most memorable characters like Deadpool, the X-Men, Silver Sufer, and Fantastic Four due to film rights issues, but now that our parent company bought 21st Century Fox. All the haters of the Infinity Saga? we gotta appeal to them. so we’ll just trying to make them do everything by making those characters just show up by their own will.”

[@deadbino]

very good video i am also a nerd and youve taken things ive been thinking and articulated it very well. good job dude, much love

[@Fantagonistic]

@@deadbino Glad to hear it!

[@nikolaspapanagnou2723]

To quote Deadpool. "Can we just be done with the whole Multiverse thing. It’s not great. It’s just been miss, after miss, after miss, after miss. Look The Wizard of Oz did the Multiverse first and they did it best. The gays knew it but we didn’t listen. Let’s just take the L and move on."

[@callmejacob3234]

The early MCU will always be a masterpiece sadly it got more formulaic and bland as it went on. But that happens with every franchise.

[@MaruchYT]

The Gaurdians 3 Credit scene and the Deadpool and wolverine one Reminded me of the Avengers credit scene. Where it leads to nothing and it feels special

[@Whyiseveryhandletaken6942]

Post credit scenes then: ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!!! Post credit scenes now: This guy stopped punching himself.

[@DiddyKong41]

Lmaaoooo I was 11 years old when I went to go see this in theaters. My mom tells me at the end of the movie that we have to wait cause she’s heard there’s a special surprise at the end of the credits. And I remember thinking how ridiculous it was to actually stay for the credits… Then 0:31 was my literal exact reaction to seeing the post credit scene. 😂💯

[@sebastianbenavidesmorales2274]

by the time they finally set up the young avengers all the actors are going to be in their mid 30's

[@richardord_04]

Great video! Earned a subscriber! 😎

[@Fantagonistic]

@@richardord_04 Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@fdm698]

Great essay! I was honestly floored when I saw your sub count. Keep this up and youll x1000 that in no time. I look forward to seeing more of your stuff :)

[@jabbathehutt2774]

I think the post credit-scenes are what made these movies feel like a "cohesive" story. One les into the other, there was an order to it, and now on top of the other issues the mcu is suffering from, they no longer have that glue making people want to see the next movie. Lets say i really like Venom, to the point where i and only wanna see venom, whats gonna make me wanna watch the next Sony movie? I don't care about Kraven, i dont care about Madame Web, i care about Venom. That end credit scene is the chance to show me why i should care, how they relate to the movie i just watched and how what i just watched would relate to the next thing. And now they basically just use them for jokes or unused plot lines. All these movies no longer feel like they are naturally leading up to something. We know Doomsday is gonna happen, not cause Doom himself was teased, but because we know when the movie "Doomsday" is gonna release. I dont wanna know what movie is gonna come out in 3 effing years, i want to have some build up and have it be a suprise. In the time between learning when Gaurdians 3 was gonna be released and its actual release, i lost interest entirely and havent even bothered to see it. Their chance to set up the next big villain was wasted in Black Widow, a movie that takes place before Endgame and Infinity War, couldve had a scene showing Doom or Kang already doing something in reaction to the Blip, or Doom trying to solve it only for it to be undone and he screams Richards! Setting up the fact he wants to save the world, is already working on that and sets up the Fantastic 4's existence with one namedrop. Or literally anything more relevant than set up for a show, (that i have no interest in) Sorry for long comment, im just upset they wont do Doom justice.

[@theeternalrage4567]

It wasn't just the movie end credits but the shows as well like the defenders, cloak&dagger, runaways, and agents of shield

[@dragonslayer5259]

This video is better then the thumbnail made it look 🔥

[@goo8092]

Super good video man

[@Fantagonistic]

@@goo8092 Appreciated! Thanks!

[@YourBoyGreen]

earned new subscriber 💯

[@Fantagonistic]

@@YourBoyGreen Excellent! Thank you!

[@BlackFlash09]

How do you feel about the post credit scenes from the Sonic the Hedgehog cinematic universe?

[@Fantagonistic]

@@BlackFlash09 I think they’re exactly what post-credit scenes should be. Something awesome for fans that sets up the next movie well.

[@BlackFlash09]

@@Fantagonistic Agreed!

[@peacejoy1396]

I just wanna see Dormamu

[@MoviesAreDope420]

Love the video. If nobody has said, adding 5-10 to the volume in your editing program would be greatly appreciated

[@Fantagonistic]

@@MoviesAreDope420 Thanks!

[@cobtheconqueror]

"It's morbin time " Pure gold

[@SoundClaw09]

Ahh, Marvel could’ve used Sword to set up Dr Doom, but no, we had to have Kang instead. Now, we do have Doom, and Sword failed its only job!

[@PresidentsdiscordServerideas]

Sonic be carrying the post credits tbh

[@Fantagonistic]

@@PresidentsdiscordServerideas They know what they’re doin!

[@SOM-v4o]

I think the only most memorable post credit scenes that will stand the test of time from the ones after Endgame was the Kang Council and maybe the far from home post credit scene. Rest will be forgotten until reminded.

[@PauTheDeo]

Real good video

[@Fantagonistic]

@@PauTheDeo Thanks!

[@SDfan2002]

Last Jedi’s subversion of expectations was well done: change my mind. Also how could you Skip Homecoming and GUARDIANS 2??

[@xMidgetFuryx1]

Disney will be fine. When characters don’t stay dead the impact is lost. I have a feeling with the amount of reshoots cap 4 has had that movie is going to be a mess. I hope thunderbolts is good. Although I don’t think they did enough to build that up

[@petermj1098]

If Disney screws up Galactus in the new Fantastic Four movie the movie is gonna fail and they will be in trouble. It was a dumb decision putting Galactus in the first film now they have to show for it.

[@flamsey]

Make a video on marvel shows post credit scene? Agents of shield, agent carter, inhumans, the defenders saga, cloak and dagger, runaways, helstrom and the disney+ shows

[@roryscott2941]

As much as I love and adore Pizza Poppa, MoM should have ended with the third eye emerging. Keep some element of horror

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

I thought you were gonna talk about the scenes themselves too and how they're shot, than just their functions. I know you don't care for IM3's post credit scene because it didn't hype up anything, but you gotta admit, it felt like a sincere talk between 2 friends in Tony and Bruce. It felt like a real scene. Post Infinity Saga, Mid and Post Credit Scenes are overlong and just poorly made. Nevermind that Eternals hyped something that hasn't come, look at HOW it hypes it. Some annoying, comic relief creature type outright tells us that a One Direction is Thanos' brother. Why? How? What? Huh? In Shang Chi, him and Katy meet Banner and Carol through holograms. This is a crossover moment and it's happening on the mid credit scene. Everything feels so casual when it's supposed to be a big thing. The Marvels had this long ass scene that, like you said, wasted Beast. But I'm more distracted by Maria Rambeau's appearance. When she stood up, the camera pans out to reveal her costume like it's supposed to mean something. I'm no comic book nerd, man. Is she supposed to be a somebody? What does this mean? The last time I saw this lady, Wanda killed her.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Even to a comic nerd that scene is confusing. Binary is already a complicated thing in comics and is not even this character. They just did a bad version of a costume not even comic fans would be excited about and slapped it on her.

[@suryamgangwal8315]

14:24 I did just see the post credit scene on youtube. I think mcu never really planned to release after endgame, but the sweet, sweet money who could say no to that

[@akashjoji6171]

You didn’t mention Spider-Man No way home or homecoming 3 post cred

[@silencedmaxim5889]

What a morbius way to go out on.

[@whatsyddoes9148]

The only marvel movies I rewatch are the old ones

[@powwow1447]

Holy underrated channel keep it up

[@Fantagonistic]

@@powwow1447 Thanks, chum!

[@Beastinvader]

Honestly I would be happy if they just adapt Ultimate Alliance 1's story.

[@tonji]

Something that can't be done know with the tv shows somewhat playing a part is when a new marvel or sequel came out you got a marathon of past movies or mega marathon to remind you if you saw fit. I used to do my own at home but the movies seem so standalone now

[@stevenmcburney8167]

There’s nothing wrong with having to watch past movies to undertand the current movie cuz I like to think of the mcu like a tv show where you can’t just skip to S2 ep 5 and expect to know everything, you have to start from the beginning. But the issue phase 4 caused with all its loose plot threads and tv shows is it made watching newer movies feel exhausting because you felt you had so much homework to catch up on. Old mcu did it best where you didn’t need to watch older movies to understand what was going on. Every movie was standalone while having the post credit scenes be this glue that gave everything connectivity

[@robchuk4136]

Hm. You might only be talking about post-credits, but you may have actually unlocked the key to why the MCU has been struggling so much after Endgame. Yes, everybody has recognized how Phase 4 sucks, but you've stumbled across the methodology in WHY exactly it happened the way it did! There's so much teasing for teasing's sake that it's crazy. Nice work. I haven't seen many put it this way before. You should look at DC's post credits history. As for my personal opinion, I hate all the ones that are just jokey with no point. Especially shwarma. That was the beginning of Marvel using what they'd established with their audience, and taking it for granted. I get that it might be 'safer' than teasing something that might not come to pass, but I'm just not into it. Put that shit on SNL or the MTV movie awards, not here wasting my time. It's Marvel at the height of cocky.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@robchuk4136 I’m thinking about doing a DC one because they’re even more disorganized.

[@t3kscarecrow474]

Can you do a video on the MCU's horrendous lack of musical thematic continuity? Pirates of The Caribbean is one of my favourite series's's's ever. Over the course of the "original trilogy", there are many beautiful themes and leitmotifs set up for each character and movie theme. There's ones for Jack Sparrow, freedom, Davy Jones, love and despair, Barbosa, etc etc. One of my absolute favourite things about a movie is how it does music. The thrill I get when I see Jack Sparrow do something awesome or very Jack Sparrow, and his theme plays is amazing. More examples of this are How To Train Your Dragon, The Spider-verse, Lord Of The Rings, and the big daddy of leitmotifs; Star Wars. I loooooveeeee the Heroic Theme (Luke's Theme), The Force Theme, Leia's Theme, Yoda's Theme, The Empire's Strength Theme (Darth Vader's Theme), The Emporer's Theme, the theme for Anakin's Betrayal, The Clones' Theme. Beautifully written, composed, and executed. (Almost none of this counts for the Sequel Trilogy, I mean like just because Yoda lifted an X-wing out of a bog does not mean that everytime an X-wing is force-lifted his theme plays. It's not the X-Wing Force-Lift Theme). But none of this is seen in the MCU except for five themes (that I know of), and it is a horrible shame. I absolutely adore the Driving With The Top Down from Ironman 1. It is just so Ironman to me. (although I've discovered that for some reason everyone on the internet seems to prefer Ironman 3. The worst of the themes). Imagine, in Spider-Man Homecoming, when the remote controlled suit flies in to save Peter, you hear the dun dun dun dun, dun dun dun dun, dadunnn guitar from Ironman 1, and you instantly know as a viewer that Ironman is on screen. Chills. Now for the five that do have some continuity: The obvious one is the Avengers' Theme. It plays in every Avengers movie, which makes sense, and whenever it plays, the crowd goes wild. Less obvious, the Black Panther's Theme. It plays in the Portals scene in Endgame, when T'Chala comes through his portal. Very good, sets up his presence on screen. Now for the good ones; Antman, Spider-Man, and The Guardians. Antman's daaaaaannndannnnnn dadadaaaaannnn dannnnnnn dada dun dun daddun dun dun dun dadun dun dun dadun dun dun dadunnn is chef's kiss. And it stays, in atleast some form, across all three Antman movies. Spider-Man: Homecoming's dun dun dada dun dun, dun dun dada dun dun, dun dun dada dun dunn, dunnn dun dun dun dun dunnn perfectly symbolises the Tom Holland Spider-Man, and this theme is presence, albeit in very differing forms across each movie. And now, ladies and gentlemen: The Guardians Of The Galaxy!!!! I was genuinely shocked when I entered the showing of the sequel to find the Guardians Inferno. Happily shocked. And then, in the 3rd and final aswell?! Mwah! Loooovovvvvvvvved the GOTG music; the themes annd the songs, so I loooovvvvve their continuity. That's all I have to say for now. I would pay good money to see some internet group completely recompose the MCU, using all the theme from each heros' first film, (they're across the board the best. Thor 1, Ironman 1, Antman 1, Captain America 1, etc etc) and use leitmotifs.

[@Fantagonistic]

@@t3kscarecrow474 I find it to be a real shame they abandoned all of their themes. I’d hoped in Avengers you’d get to hear them all but they only used Cap’s for a second. With how cool and epic the Avengers theme was across the series it woulda been so cool to have the other character’s ones be reused too.

[@t3kscarecrow474]

@@Fantagonistic 100% agree

[@A.F.Whitepigeon]

Every Frame a Painting made that video 8 years ago.

[@speedflashanimations221]

Technically Thunderbolts is resolve quintessa recruiting Yelena

[@lukehannah4554]

Correction, the last Far From Home credit scene was linking into Secret Invasion

[@Till27_Spence]

We don’t talk about secret invasion

[@999gobstoppers]

Secret invasion was ass

[@Fantagonistic]

@@lukehannah4554 I don’t think it was because they immediately removed him from the space station and had him do a side plot.

[@dannypalin9583]

​@Till27_Spence Best part of Secret Invasion was killing Talos off. That's not saying much, but the guy ruined Peter Parker's life. If he'd orchestrated a proper cleanup of the Battle of London, that doctored footage Mysterio made would never have come to light.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Agents of Shield did a better job doing Secret Invasion with LMDs than the Secret Invasion show.

[@StarWarsomania]

I like to pretend the MCU ended with phase 1.

[@mrfreshman521]

They had good chance with loki and moonknight the fed it up

[@wheatley09]

call me an absolute loser cause I somehow remember every single one of those post-credit scenes even though they have yet to go somewhere

[@Fantagonistic]

@@wheatley09 I’m right there with yah!

[@_MECHA_]

Very underated

[@Fantagonistic]

@@_MECHA_ Thanks!

[@_MECHA_]

@Fantagonistic ofc!

[@mechajay3358]

This just further shows how much of a decline in quality the MCU has taken. Now I don't even care if a Post-Credit Scene happens.

[@mattburke7151]

How does black panther foreshadow infinity war

[@mrlofi333]

It’s adds so much to the movie yet it can’t be the best part of the movie it’s a kinda paradox

[@Fantagonistic]

@@mrlofi333 It should simply be the cherry on top!

[@psykamui404]

You be like: Iron Man 3 funny post cred scene: bad and useless Guardians of the galaxy funny post cred scene: good, genius

[@Fantagonistic]

@@psykamui404 The difference is the Guardians ones give us something new we haven’t seen yet so the funny is good. The IM3 one was only to be a quick joke. Just my opinion though.

[@pennywisethedancingclown2246]

How many post credit scenes went nowhere? *All of them?*

[@stevechance150]

I am so burnt out on Superhero movies.

[@DogMutilator]

If they return Steve Rogers back to being young, I think I will stop watching any MCU property regardless of quality. I already don't like them bringing back RDJ but creating a revolving cast that keeps coming back is not what I want to see

[@Fantagonistic]

What’s the BEST MCU Post-Credits Scene? What’s the absolute WORST!?

[@Daljitkaur-p4k2z]

fine ill do it myself goes hard af !

[@Fantagonistic]

@ It truly did!

[@redshot5403]

Seeing Thanos on the Avengers end credit scene hit me hard. I’ve grown up with Super hero squad, so I was familiar with the helicarrier and many characters, so seeing Thanos on screen for the first time gave me the chills, knowing how powerful he is. Something that paid off by infinity war

[@templedoom5090]

Thanos in the age of Ultron post credit scene.

[@Fantagonistic]

@ I’m ashamed to admit I stood up in the theater in disbelief!

[@animalsandlegos4525]

13:36 well their missing out on loki, the best mcu show

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

The first season sucked and completely turned me off of Season 2.

[@Prebuilt_Room901]

For me I feel it’s somewhat clear where some of these plot threads are going but that’s because I watch it all. I will say though that since marvel’s always been connected there’s no reason to not have TV shows set up movies in big ways and vice versa. The scarlet witch story was a pretty good example of this. Her story in wandavision picks up right after endgame and infinity war and deals with her grief. She makes up her kids and has to get rid of them to save Westview. She put a spell on Agatha. She tries to learn about her powers and gets corrupted by the darkhold and learns about the multiverse and tries to get her kids back. The way she tried to do it doesn’t make much sense but the idea wasn’t terrible. She “dies” which then sets up Agatha where the spell gets messed up and Agatha meets Teen. Teen connects back to Wandavison in 2021 since he’s Wanda’s son, Billy. In the show they reincarnate Tommy and then they set up Billy and Agatha to look for Tommy. From here we don’t know exactly where it goes but with Vision Quest being sorta confirmed by Vision’s actor, it’s clear that that’s gonna connect to Wandavision and its already rumored that that’s gonna introduce the new Tommy which ties it back to Agatha. With the Wanda movie being rumored to be in production, it should tie all of these movies and shows together and give us the Maximoff reunion. Even if she doesn’t get her movie before Doomsday or Secret Wars, the reunion could happen in one of those movies since I doubt they wouldn’t have Wanda in either of those movies. This is the best connectivity they’ve had in this saga so far and Thunderbolts is also gonna connect to a bunch of movies and shows from this saga like Black Widow, Black Panther 2, Falcon and the Winter Solider, and Hawkeye and even Ant Man and The Wasp from the last saga. Then with the Avengers movies bringing everything together, they’ll be able to connect the characters from this saga into the Avengers and though it’ll probably leave a lot of plot threads hanging like Earth’s judgement by the Celestials, it may find a creative way to tie up some loose ends that seemed very important like Shang Chi’s rings signaling someone and the Council of Kangs. Like maybe Doom kills all the Kangs which sets him up as a big threat and he sees the signal the Ten Rings were sending the Kangs and that leads him to the 616. Wraps up multiple plot threads while also moving the story along. I know this comment is already really long but you really downplayed the importance of Black Widow’s post credit scene. It takes Yelena from where we left her in Black Widow and sets her up to reappear in Hawkeye which she did 4 months later, and then the connection to Val set her up to be in the Thunderbolts which was announced a year later. You just said that it only connected to a couple of scenes in Hawkeye and didn’t mention its connection to the thunderbolts. This was a great video but I just think you missed a couple of important things. Even if most of the stuff I brought up wasn’t in a post credit scene, it’s still important to mention since by only mentioning the post credits, you somewhat downplay the level of connectivity the MCU still has which is bad since that lack of connectivity is a big part of your point. Plus not mentioning the shows post credit scenes I think was a mistake on your part. Just because not everyone watches them doesn’t mean that they aren’t in the MCU and most of them set themselves up for a season 2 or follow up movie and Moon Knight hasn’t gotten a season 2 and Falcon and the Winter Soldier and She Hulk’s post credits scenes don’t lead to anywhere we can really figure out yet but every other show post credit scene has been resolved. Only 3 post credit scenes out of the 9 seasons with post credit scenes haven’t been resolved yet. It’s a good video but I just disagree a lot with it

[@Fantagonistic]

@@Prebuilt_Room901 I didn’t bring up Thunderbolts* because it hasn’t come out yet, yes us nerds will be able to follow everything you’ve brought up but they have to market to regular people too. The classic post-credits scenes targeted hardcore and casual fans and left both excited. Now you need to look up online to even know it was Blade at the end of Eternals. And I think the Wanda and kids stuff would be interesting if they kept it all in streaming shows, but putting it in the movie confused everyone who didn’t watch the show.

[@A.F.Whitepigeon]

Dude. Paragraphs. Getcha sum.

[@User-ChairBoom4729]

I’ve been trying to make my own Marvel/Superhero universe for a while So this is the impression I got in terms of what a post credit scene should do (correct me if I’m wrong): - Should connect worlds/franchises together (like with Thor’s hammer in Iron Man 2) - They need to feel special and not make the movie feel mundane, like the Nick Fury scene, it needs to feel like a surprise or a mystery as to what it means or what its setting up - Joke post credit scenes should be used sparingly to calm audiences down from all the surprises and tension and just have a good chuckle - Do not give too much away, just little drops of what is out there - Need to catch the interest of the general audience instead of just simply being a way to get fans attention with stuff they know - There could be times where there doesn’t need to be a post credit scene if there’s nothing to add so it’s not taken for granted - Not a commercial for the next movie like a mid credits scene, post credit scenes are what get people’s attention - Part of the interconnectivity or mystery is the “out of context” nature if that makes sense, a different genre bleeding into another film, like Thor’s hammer, a cosmic weapon, in Iron Man 2, a grounded movie - In rare cases, big characters that make people freak out like Thanos can be just that on its own since fans freaking out will do all the hype and explanation for the general audience - Expand the universe, be fun and unexpected like Howard the Duck, a popular character with fans who give people a chuckle when his ducky little ass appears out of nowhere - However Mid credit scenes can be used to tell people to go to a certain movie if it’s really important like Infinity War

[@iwanderkinderen6790]

People did like moon knight tho...

[@burgergud2804]

Why do most critics who have good points and criticism always sound the most annoying guy ever?

[@robertdempsey3417]

How do you pronounce "subsequent"?

[@Fantagonistic]

@@robertdempsey3417 Likely incorrectly.

[@Marquisereid30]

Anyone remember Wanda vision

[@icenovice]

hey don’t talk crap about ant-man versus supervillains, he could solo thanos without the stones

[@nic1673]

1:20: “It made casual audiences start to imagine what the hell an avengers could even mean?” 4:57: “Casually introduce strucker and the maximoffs, Your regular audience doesn’t even know what this means” 😂 What? Lol

[@Fantagonistic]

@@nic1673 True, but to regular people Avengers sounded like something mysterious and interesting and the hype nerds got from it made it seem important. For Strucker and the twins they’re just some new people, it has a very different vibe to it.

[@coach_gamingg]

shang chi was good

[@jestbone89]

Mostly agree.