The Lost Films Iceberg

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The Lost Films Iceberg
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(If there's an iceberg you'd like to see me cover, even if its non-lost media related, let me know!) Other videos you might like :) Lost Media Iceberg: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGrZp5unapx1oas Lost Gameshow Iceberg: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXTVZmycrqiDjqc Twitter: @blameitonjorge Patreon: www.patreon.com/blameitonjorge

[@Wnick1996]

The unreleased/canceled game iceberg, maybe?

[@ChiragSonne]

Hey @blameitonjorge, Gogola was one of the obscure Bollywood movies in India that was never heard by Indian fans.

[@magnificentjeebz6208]

How about lost video icebergs? Only one I’m a tad, curious about is the Swell Season concert thing, idk the context, and I’m too scared to look it up, I’ve looked up disturbing stuff, before. But I just wanna know that one, context to it, please, thank you mr Jorge, sir

[@OhNyoCringe78]

Hey your lost media iceberg video is age restricted, do you think you can fix that please

[@simontheshortsguy]

Cover The Lost Puppetry Media Iceberg Next!

[@Imaslutforpuns]

I always get sad when I remember that 80% of silent films are completely lost now; so many masterpieces gone to time. One of my great-grandmother’s favorite actresses, Theda Bara, was in more than 40 movies, and now only three or four are still available to watch today :(

[@TankHardcheese]

Yeah unfortunately, a lot of people back then couldn't comprehend just how world-changing the art of filmmaking would become, so they didn't put much thought or care into proper preservation for future generations.

[@Imaslutforpuns]

@@TankHardcheese I love your username so much lol

[@kattrielladoesstuff]

​​@@TankHardcheeseAlso, the physical film itself degraded over time until it basically turned to dust. Add to that the fact it was highly flammable (which is why so much film was lost in fires, once one caught fire it just spread everywhere), and it's honestly amazing that we have ANY films left from that era. Also, I second the other person, your user name is hilarious.

[@dieterdelange9488]

It's a pity that so many crap films of the last 40 years or so have not gone lost. 😅😂

[@drygnfyre]

It was a combination of two factors. First, old film stock is very unstable and flammable. Modern film stock wasn't developed until the 1950s, so many silent films simply degraded and there was no way to prevent that. But usually before that happened, there just wasn't much point to saving films once they stopped making money. The idea of film preservation (and the home media market) wasn't really much of a thing until maybe the 60s or 70s. So back in the day, studios simply destroyed films once they weren't making money. Thankfully, over time, films that were believed to have been completely lost have slowly been found, usually just a few still frames here and there.

[@zuxy]

Getting interrupted by an ad only to come back to Jorge loudly stating "PENIS" in my eardrums was not something I was expecting today

[@EdnaK728]

I screeched like a startled pterodactyl and Sideshow Bob came rushing into my room from his study because he thought something happened

[@alexiskuwata]

I died. So funny.

[@ammagnolia]

KZbin has ads????

[@3bugsinatrenchcoat]

​@@EdnaK728i was so confused until i saw your username lol. love the commitment to the bit

[@EdnaK728]

@@3bugsinatrenchcoat you're not the first random person on the Internet to get confused that I'm still around

[@helterskeletors]

One of the saddest parts of being an early film fan is knowing that 90% of the best movies from the beginning of cinema are gone forever

[@tillitsdone]

It's depressing, just like all the lost books. They're history with immeasurable value, sadly gone.

[@MungoThorne]

Which of the lost movies are the "best movies from the beginning of cinema"?

[@theNerdifacation]

If those movies weren’t lost, we wouldn’t talk about them

[@Wazoru]

​@@NES96if it wasn't backed up earlier and there's no pirated copy, then it will be lost. A lot of popular shows have pirated copies so in some way, they will survive

[@peculiarlystrangelyoddlypa4012]

​@@NES96& Who are you to even have the *Sentient & Vivid type of Feeling / Premonition* to confirm such a kind of *International Tragedy* of such a "High-End Degree" of magnitude That'd be quite useful For the Upcoming Generations to "come" right after the "Current Era" of these self-proclaimed 'X Y beings' / 'Cry-Stall Generation' / "Baby Bøømerang'$" . . . ?

[@ivancorredera4241]

If I had a nickel for every movie where Batman interacts with Dracula that got lost at some point, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.

[@kimifw58]

You don't have to say the whole thing. We know how it ends because the meme is so low-effort and formulaic.

[@Makingajessinmypants]

@@kimifw58who hurt you bro

[@That_Isabelle]

@@kimifw58damn chill out he was tryna make a silly joke

[@BigGreekCock]

You'd have 3 nickels tho. There's also an animated movie

[@artCharles]

@@BigGreekCock That one's not lost, though.

[@PaMS1995]

I think this is the first time I've seen a video start with "by now you probably know what an iceberg is..." and not explain what an iceberg is anyway lol thanks

[@blameitonjorge]

If there's anyone watching this who genuinely doesn't know what an iceberg video is, I'd be very surprised.

[@lamibonxd]

google is free

[@masterowl123]

@@Blakbox92 this and any iceberg video could be someones first, though even if you didn't explain what one is; it can easily be looked up, it's not too hard to grasp and the video works without knowing what one is.

[@Kalibre97]

I always hate that. I get why they feel the need to say it, but just leaves me going "yeah yeah get on with it"

[@Ninja_4561]

Some people who worked on Foodfight said that it was essentially a money laundering scheme, the production was constantly being restarted and almost no real work was getting done, and the director apparently pocketed a large portion of the budget

[@rookeealding2803]

some of the first reports of said that the footage was in the trunk of a cabbie and were stolen. I'm going to go with Money laundering scheme.

[@deepblueharvest]

That's embezzlement, not money laundering. Money laundering would be when you pretend that your income from drug dealing, etc. is actually just the film's revenue.

[@krisk0meiji]

The more I hear about this movie the more completely and utterly baffled I become

[@Reefer-Rampage69]

Spot on

[@biggestnerdalive8476]

I’m pretty sure somebody actually stole the footage and they had to start over from scratch

[@sterlinsilver]

I love how the "pen!s" film wasn't really lost and just nobody asked to see it. And how when asked for it the owners said "oh that? Yeah sure $100" lol

[@justanotherhtffan]

You can say “penis” on the internet

[@ratherlargeweenie]

@@justanotherhtffanbro is speaking words

[@RF-Ataraxia]

@@justanotherhtffan Bro's giving loading screen tips

[@valhatan3907]

@@justanotherhtffan in some platform, you can't. You got banned and your account couldn't send a comment for those fuckin 30 days. Those fuckin 30 days.

[@quandaredevil]

@@justanotherhtffanyoutube’s system is very sensitive with what you can say in comments lately so I don’t blame them for censoring it just in case

[@james312]

It’s fascinating to think that so many lost movies/shows are actually on VHS tapes in video hoarders’ collections, but with collections so big, they don’t realise or care that they may have one of the only remaining copies. Eventually, people die and families clear out hoards of this stuff too, throwing away everything that wasn’t a family video. Lots of lost media is still out there, silently sitting there, unplayed in a collection of thousands, just waiting for the day it gets thrown into a black bag, and there are no more copies left.

[@Gatorade69]

There's plenty of lost media that people don't even know are lost. Like look at some of the found ones, it took saying "Hey, does anybody remember this ?" To at least get the ball rolling on a search. How many people have copies of lost media and they don't even know it ? Why I always find the topic so interesting.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

That’s not how it works. Nobody throws out antiques en masse, except for maybe professional cleaners

[@Gatorade69]

@@wolfetteplays8894 I'm glad you know how everyone lives and that everybody hoardes junk.

[@Kaixfikwind]

@@wolfetteplays8894This happens all the time. People who don’t know or don’t care about whatever the person is collecting and think it’s random old garbage cluttering up space, so they throw it all away or, thankfully, donate them.

[@kimifw58]

Some people get off on having the only copy of something.

[@austinshelton500]

The cinematographer of Noah’s Ark was a survivor of the San Francisco earthquakes. After questioning the director about safety the director said “that’s a risk they’ll have to take” so he stormed off and was replaced by a different cinematographer

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

The director's a real piece of crap.

[@IDHLEB]

- F*ck this! (Storms off set)

[@nukirisame5298]

you forgot to mention the director was michael curtiz, the same guy who directed casablanca of all things lmao

[@nikoladedic6623]

​@@nukirisame5298Somehow I am both surprised and not surprised at that.

[@rachelayvaz1579]

@@nukirisame5298not Casablanca that’s my favorite movie

[@MadameCirce]

Those photographs of Warhol & Nico as Batman & Robin were taken by my grandfather-in-law Frank Bez. He was a phenomenal photographer and a lot of really iconic mid-century pics were his work. But I had no clue he had any connection to lost media. That made my day!

[@justcallmekai1554]

That's so damn cool!

[@danielfarias9262]

It’s really sad how Maya: La Primer Gran Historia never finished production. The trailer is legitimately one of the coolest trailers for an animated film I’ve seen, and it would have been awesome to see how this Mexican studio would have interpreted a story about Mayan culture. One of their later films, Nikte, did have a similar premise though.

[@slurpee4203]

I KNOWWW UGH, SUCH A MISSED OPPORTUNITY

[@peaceofpie94]

Agreed, it’s a shame that nothing happened even after talks about releasing it back in 2020. There’s an animated tv series, Maya and the Three, directed by a Mexican and is set in a neat, fictionalized mesoamerican world that people can check out

[@expendableindigo9639]

Was not expecting Bruno Bichir of all people.

[@dylanbalsamo7275]

I love how quick the intro was, like you didn’t explain what an iceberg chart was or have any filler you just get straight to the point

[@grimendstone]

1 hour blamitonjorge vids are always a treat

[@blameitonjorge]

Wait till you see the next video 👀

[@urtiz]

@@blameitonjorge😳

[@J4MMUS]

​@@blameitonjorgehow long will it be

[@simontheshortsguy]

​@@blameitonjorgeLost Media Update Vol. V Entries: 1: Weinerville (partially lost Nickelodeon variety puppet series; 1993-1997) 2: Super Why (found stop-motion Nick Jr. pilot of PBS Kids CGI animated series; 1999) 3: Tronji (found British children's TV series; 2009-2010) 4: Bubble Guppies (found unaired pilot of Nick Jr. CGI animated series; 2006) 5: A Very Aggressive Vegetable (found Nickelodeon Australia animated short series; 1998) 6: The Stepford Wives (found preview cut of black comedy sci-fi film; 2003) 7: Alphablocks (partially found web-exclusive scenes of CBeebies animated series episodes; 2010-2013)

[@leguac4187]

@@blameitonjorge excuse me WHAT

[@beknown63]

It’s funny how lost films are either influential, genre-defining pieces or the worst movie ever made. There is no inbetween.

[@asdfpoop33921]

That's because mediocrity never really gains attention

[@Pipkiablo]

Lost media of the black and white and silent film era gives me the same kind of sad feeling usually reserved for when someone I love dies. It's sad when modern stuff becomes lost, but they still have a slight chance to be found again. Anything that old has a next to nothing chance of ever being found, especially in cases where the film has been confirmed to have degraded or been destroyed.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

That’s a National embarrassment!

[@pinkyromantic]

Real, it's kinda sad to see that old lost media are hard to come by due to poor restoration

[@vojtechcielecky4750]

I have good news for you. Immediately as that part about the Italian Alibaba trilogy popped up, an unexpected flash of memory hit me. I can recall that as a child I have seen the entire Alibaba trilogy either on DVD or VHS in Czech or Slovak dubbing. Even today you can find few VHS copies of The Sunshine Princess (in the previously mentioned dubbings) for sale on the Internet under the title Alíbaba a sluneční princezna.

[@ImpeccableExplanation]

The Sunshine Princess definitely isn't lost (at least visually). I found a DVD of the Czech dub online for 49Kč (slightly over $2).

[@lasernatoo8657]

Just a note that the Phantom Blood movie wasn't the first on-screen adaptation of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure; instead it was the Stardust Crusaders OVAs which aired from 1993-1994 and from 2000-2002. The same company that made the OVAs then went on to make the Phantom Blood movie, which likely became lost due to a major controversy surrounding the OVAs around the time when the movie would have gotten a DVD release.

[@juliussqueezer855]

This, also some of the footage we have is from a test animation made before the movie

[@novathefallenstarwarrior]

What was the controversy??

[@juliussqueezer855]

@@novathefallenstarwarrior in the OVA a character named DIO is reading a book while threatening to kill somebody (Hol Horse). It turns out the text in the book is from the Quran so the Islam community got upset

[@novathefallenstarwarrior]

@@juliussqueezer855 thanks for the info :3

[@BillyBob125]

Bonus fact: although not a full onscreen adaption of any JoJo part, a commercial for the game Famicom Jump II was the first time anything JoJo's Bizarre Adventure was officially animated (other than sprite animations for a video game and as far as I know). The game predates the first Stardust Crusders OVA by a few years.

[@goregrindisthebestgenre]

You should’ve mentioned The Day the Clown Cried wasn’t lost but intentionally shelved by it’s creator. The remaining elements were given to the Library of Congress with the stipulation it shall not be screened before next year but can be from 2024 and on.

[@LaLavaneko]

A lot of these aren't "lost" at all. The companies just don't distribute them.

[@modestmismagius105]

@@LaLavaneko if they end up never doing so or are destroyed, they technically are lost

[@LaLavaneko]

@modestmismagius105 destroying something on purpose doesn't make it lost. Nor does not distributing it. It's a misleading title. Putting films that are destroyed in a fire in the same category as non distributed content just isn't genuine. If the title said "films you can't watch anymore" then it would actually be accurate. Of course that title wouldn't be as attractive for people but it would be more genuine and build better trust from the viewers. Edit: one of the films actually was sent out when someone just asked for it. It woukd have been interesting to see if other movies could be accessed this way instead of just marking them off as lost. Contacting the companies could also show a lot about why they aren't being distributed if anyone replied. I get this is just a brief video probably made entirely by reading some list article but the title is misleading and it could have had some interesting research. I support this channel and its content and want to see it improve, that's why I'm saying any of this, and based on other comments im not alone.

[@tylertheleper8468]

The movies are lost to 'Us', as in the public.

[@staticcharm3808]

Yeah Jerry Lewis just did not want to the movie shown while he was alive

[@lampyman101]

With the decline of physical media and the rise of digital delivery where you don't actually own the films we can confidently expect this iceberg to become much bigger.

[@expendableindigo9639]

I can’t even count how many iPhone apps I know of from back in the day that are already lost.

[@ravenxj220]

Great point and not to mention it can be a pain in the a$$ to screen record streaming services in browser windows.

[@Pixie-ur2ix]

*dark, haunting music starts playing* Jorge: "PENIS 1965" I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing at that 😂😂😂

[@alexiskuwata]

😭😂

[@AntR803]

Shout out to the guy who giggles and kicks his feet when Jorge uploads

[@blameitonjorge]

Thats some deep lore lmao

[@manslaughter3180]

That is adorable, love the mental image of that

[@kimifw58]

So... a baby? Or one of those fat people from Wall-E?

[@vincenthall5908]

me…

[@monicaraybrandt]

meeee :3

[@HeisenbergFam]

Jorge is a perfect example of quality over quantity, his content is perfect to sit back, relax and grab some snacks

[@zombae.]

yeah they are the highlight of my month 🔥

[@muffin8460]

True that

[@chayden153]

totally

[@Dribbleondo]

I would easily watch a Netflix show of a topic Jorge would cover.

[@lol3342]

Where is my methe

[@themongivoid]

10:11 really scared me. Wasn't paying much attention until Jorge starting talking

[@BlazeHeartPanther]

"PINGAS"

[@randomrandom572]

"Penis." -blameitonjorge (2023)

[@imjustdandy9799]

Id love a lost theatre iceberg video. So so many plays and musicals are lost because they were never filmed, or if they were filmed it was lost.

[@thegreatspider-saiyan]

Fun fact: the golem movie had a reference in a Simpsons tree house of horror where Bart builds or finds a golem to protect him from bullies which eventually gains sentience via a wish on it from Lisa

[@dicapriodelorean2888]

the design of the golem is also exactly like the one in the silent films

[@california236]

Good episode

[@jude4581]

Is that a specifically reference to the movie, or just the original folklore the movie’s based on?

[@dicapriodelorean2888]

@@jude4581 bit of both tbh

[@thegreatspider-saiyan]

@jude4581 the golem looks a lot like the one from the movie, I assume it's a reference

[@biancaportillo6552]

im not at all a movie expert or film buff but im super fascinated by early films from the late 1890s-1920s. they say movies as a glimpse into culture, society, and life during that moment in history. im so interested in that part of film history.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Most of it is gone forever because preservation wasn't really on studios minds back then

[@J-Train]

Making it to the point where Jorge says "unbrittled" instead of unbridled was one of this iceberg's many, many high points.

[@expendableindigo9639]

He also called Cannes “Caines” lol.

[@arizonaicet7519]

Wanna throw this out there, but another reason Citizen Kane wasn't colorized is because in the original contract, it said that Welles was to submit a "black and white picture" specifically, so there was some actual concern of legality if Ted Turner colored it. He didn't change his mind JUST out of the goodness of his heart

[@TheLEGOZora]

I cried when you said "let's get into it" without an overdrawn out explanation. SOoooOoooo many vids go over it, WE GET IT, WE KNOW WHAT AN ICEBERG is. Thank you so much.

[@krisk0meiji]

Am I the only one who's honestly really disappointed that Batman vs Dracula is lost? It sounds completely batshit (ha) insane and I think it would be really fun to watch

[@fuckiopussigetti453]

you'd probably have to have a tab or mushroom on standby to understand it

[@intentpascal2015]

Blameitonjorge and Sam O’Nella vids on the same day is always a treat

[@michelleanderson245]

Old media being lost because of film reels being destroyed due to fires/floods and poor preservation is just SAD

[@Nawakooo0]

I will never get tired of iceberg chart videos

[@tokumillennium5162]

Iceberg video will never die or melt

[@blameitonjorge]

Lowkey my guilty pleasure

[@siqxyre8473]

@@blameitonjorgeso much information packed into a linear and easy to digest format, its literally the perfect kind of way to showcase a ton of different things. No extra unnecessary rambling, straight to the point. I love them!

[@RainbowGalaxyMatt777]

​@@siqxyre8473agreed!

[@shuenshuen]

​@@siqxyre8473well said

[@skorn8112]

I saw Cry Baby Lane when it first aired and was a big fan of it. Last i heard it just sat in a vault sine i guess nick felt it was a one and done film. But decoded to capitalize on the "banned from Nickelodeon" saying parents called it too frightening.

[@blameitonjorge]

Must've been wild for you seeing the film again

[@skorn8112]

@@blameitonjorge yea, I was big into Are You Afraid of the Dark and Goosebumps, so it was the perfect Halloween movie at that time. I try to see it on youtube every october and when I tell people about it who only know it from the Creepypasta i like to sprinkle the creepy "i was there" angle makes me feel like i have deep lore.

[@Layla-gh5ij]

@@skorn8112that’s incredible 🤣

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

There wasn’t any backlash or ban at all originally. People online added the hyperbolic lore to it during its time as “lost media”

[@alexiskuwata]

They probably forgot about it again. 😭

[@KingOfGaymes]

I love how this video isn’t really about a creepy subject per say but Jorge is still able to make the video feel creepy and unnerving with the music and his tone

[@fallingforever]

[@kikoonthemove]

Trying to find Heartbeat In The Brain online was a fascination of mine when I was 16. I’d sit in the library of my high school looking through documentaries, Wikipedia pages, and lost media forums to try and find the whole thing. Even though I knew Amanda had no intention of making the full thing public, back then I was still hoping someone who worked with her would’ve posted it somewhere.

[@justanotherhtffan]

I’ve always wanted to see Heartbeat in the Brain for the longest time too. I hope one day she finally releases it or at least has more screenings in the future.

[@LordArikado]

A snippet of it is featured in the mondo film A Hole In The Head, and remains the only publicly available footage from Heartbeat In The Brain.

[@kikoonthemove]

@@LordArikadoYep, I watched that back then when my obsession with trying to find the whole film was taking over my time to do schoolwork lol

[@admiralofcuteness]

No offense intended, I went down weird rabbit holes on high school computers too... but why would anyone actually want to watch Heartbeat? Just the few images on its lost media wiki page made me feel physically sick, and still do even in memory. Maybe I'm missing the appeal.

[@theshadowwalker9672]

What's the timestamp for that?

[@YankeeWitNoYankee]

I hope Jorge brings back the documentary-like videos he used fo make (The Finders, Pink Morning, Havana Syndrome) They were really well made and very professional.

[@zombae.]

those 3 documentaries made me scared of the dark when watching them and im like 16..... literally one of the goofiest things everr

[@blameitonjorge]

Oh yeah, I'm working on one thats very similar to The Finders 👀

[@SwiftieMusic13]

​@@blameitonjorgewhen will lost media found in 2023 vol. 2 coming out

[@nepetaleijonism]

​@@zombae.Real

[@blameitonjorge]

@@SwiftieMusic13 Thats next. 50 minutes long

[@exoticzave1173]

Jorge Is one of the people who's great at explaining lost media, Love the content man.

[@theresahaironthescreen]

It's extremely intriguing to me to think about all of the lost films that we just aren't aware of. Films that have absolutely no surviving documentation whatsoever, with all traces of their existence erased. The fact that there are likely thousands of old films that were around at one point, but nobody knows about their existence today. Most of the silent films we have today were extremely famous in their time, with the lesser-known pieces seeming to be destined to sink into the sands of time and fall into obscurity.

[@evil1by1]

If you like contemplating such media you may enjoy a film called "Decasia" which features bits and clips from unidentified black and white film presented in whatever state of decay the clip was found. A few have been identified as previously lost films like a bit from the man who could not sleep.

[@YROliveira15]

Hey Jorge, Brazilian here and, just to expand the information, the Guanabara Bay (cited in the film at 39:46) is located in the state of Rio de Janeiro, and it extends from the city of Rio de Janeiro itself (you can even see the Sugarloaf Mountain/Pão de Açúcar at the footage) to other surrounding cities like Niterói, Duque de Caxias and São Gonçalo! And good content in general, keep it up o/

[@MacheteToothpick]

Man imagine an alternate timeline where the food fight footage wasn’t deleted

[@starmaker75]

It will probably still be really bad, but the animation and like would less uncanny

[@Mr.Tw1sty]

​@@starmaker75Brand X Brand X It's simple and plain

[@KaiDrawsShit03]

I’m still not entirely sure why, but I want to see Heartbeat in the Brain so badly. I have a strange fixation on it and I find it so fascinating. That’s always been the lost media that I’ve wanted to find more than anything, even just to see it once.

[@stephenlovesyou4151]

Same here. Ive been obsessed with it since i hurd about it 1 or 2 years agao

[@Peppered_Spores]

I'm pretty sure she's gone on Joe Rogan recently if you'd like to see how she's going, that's actually where I first heard of her, it actually surprised me to see the film she mentions at the very end of this video, but then I went.. Aah.. Yeah, of course, wtf!! x_x

[@KaiDrawsShit03]

@@Peppered_Spores I might have to check that out! Thanks :)

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

​@@Peppered_SporesSo, how she's doing?

[@rafagreeneviera8476]

Apparently it used to be on vimeo but it got taken down

[@doodelli]

48:52 Zhuangzi or Master Zhuang was an ancient Daoist philosopher. The premise of Zhuangzi testing his wife by faking his death is probably in reference to an account of him peacefully playing the drums when his wife died, because in his mind she had only undergone a natural transformation. I assume Zhuangzi in the film is expecting a similar reaction from his wife upon learning of his supposed death.

[@darthchickenmusicmore5228]

For William Friese Greene, he wasn’t the creator of cinematography. He was the creator of Kinematography (pronounced with a hard k) , a blending of the words kinetic and photography. Moving pictures. It’s a small detail, but was part of what set him apart. All the early film guys had their own names for the same things since nothing was yet standardized in the movie industry.

[@brohemianrhapsody5740]

Jorge and Mike uploading on the same day? Nice (Mike is All things lost on KZbin btw)

[@wolfe6819]

Who's Mike? 👀

[@ILikeHorrorMovies-zz4zl]

​@@wolfe6819All Things Lost I think

[@Doshiba]

​@@wolfe6819MIKE HAWK

[@aliceameliajoseph9436]

​@@wolfe6819That's what I was going to ask lol 😂

[@BluMndy]

@@wolfe6819 Mic the Snare I assume

[@tazinboor3913]

In an alternate universe, El Apostol would’ve become heavily famous and preserved whereas Snow White and The Seven Dwarves would been a failure and faded in obscurity.

[@brandonnetwork]

I did email the foundation belonging to Amanda Feilding, the Beckley Foundation, asking about Heartbeat in the Brain. I got an email back from someone who works in the foundation saying “that footage is classified and Amanda currently has no plans to change that, sorry”. At least I tried.

[@cocballus250]

If Jorge does anymore iceberg videos, i hope he does a Lost KZbin Iceberg (Like Channels, Videos, etc.) eventually

[@nunyabiznuss3040]

Yeah I have a lot of memories of videos that I've seen, for example, a masked man dressed in black (mask was black too) was in a dark room and I believe a dark green curtain behind him. The video I remember from him is he reviewed Johnson and Johnson no more tears baby shampoo and rubbed I straight into his eyes claiming it didn't hurt and it gave him no tears... until it did 😅

[@MissYamIherexxx]

Our media class got to study Wake in Fright during our Australian media topic (we're Australian) and the film's director Ted Kotcheff intentionally based all of the Australians off of what he saw whilst in Australia, and how I guess "bogan" everybody was. He then reflected this in the film which then lead to Australian's reviewing it negatively because "they didn't act like that" when the truth was, most of them did in the directors eyes.

[@fuckiopussigetti453]

that's neat because they believe the burgerland meme as we do the land down under meme

[@kobe1338]

Anytime Jorge uploads, you have to designate a time to watch the new video. Incredible narration, and I love lost media in general, so excellent video overall.

[@blameitonjorge]

Lmao thank you :)

[@kobe1338]

@@blameitonjorge you’re welcome man

[@kimifw58]

There's no way you were able to watch the video before commenting this.

[@kobe1338]

@@kimifw58so I couldn’t have watched the first five minutes then commented? Jorge’s previous icebergs have been incredible, so I know any newer one will be the same.

[@jelinah5882]

Amanda Feilding's life and story are fascinating and 100% worth their own deep dive video! She actually originally tried to find a doctor to perform her trepanation, but they all refused so she used two dentist drills for her trepanation instead (the first one broke). Her pet pigeon featured in the film is named Birdie, the same as her second kid's middle name. In addition to "Heartbeat in the Brain," she and a friend, Bart Hughes, wrote a medical school thesis on the benefits of trepanation on a literal scroll. Bart Hughes was later kicked out of medical school for naming his daughter "Maria Juana." Amanda also ran for parliament (she's the descendant of a duchess so she had the money) under the message of sharing trepanation with the public, which surprisingly gained traction from people who thought she was satirically saying they need a government like they "need a hole in the head." There are also some photos of Joey Mellon performing his own trepanation if you're curious. She's recently been featured on both Dua Lipa and Joe Rogan's podcasts for her psychedelic research with the Beckley Foundation too. Truly a one in a generation woman!

[@Jenninka]

Have you read Joey Mellen’s book Bore Hole? Dude has some interesting ideas about science but it’s a good read if this is rabbit hole you’re into

[@wedge183]

I can't stop thinking about the premise of The Werewolf 1913. So she comes back after 100 years and the guy that killed her boyfriend is still around? I feel like that is less believable than her turning into a wolf. I guess it depends on when the boyfriend was killed, because it could have been way after she died. Still, this will live rent free in my head for at least a week now.

[@daniexists6]

My genuine thought process is that Foodfight was an elaborate insurance fraud scheme. I mean, you tell me that someone just stole a bunch of hard drives, and early 2000s computer hard drives at that, of a film involving food mascots, let alone one from a studio most known up to that point for adaptations of Mortal Kombat?

[@mht5875]

Love the lost silent films especially - my primary interest is Tom Tyler and while a bunch of his silent films have survived and are in European film archives, the majority are lost. I remember when the film serial "Jungle Mystery" (1932) was considered lost for the longest time before it finally surfaced, was restored and exhibited at Cinecon 52. Fascinating stuff!

[@Noob64]

I like how at 6:58 he just casually mentions NEIL ARMSTRONG as a voice actor.

[@Mitchellfw]

Really fascinating, I enjoyed it immensely! I'm surprised you didn't mention the films of Colleen Moore, though I'm sure you didn't want the whole thing to be dominated by the 90% of silent films that have been lost. If you didn't know about her, it's really interesting: Despite being a huge star, which almost single-handedly popularized the bob haircut in the 1920's, more than half of her films are considered lost due to the sheer neglect of the Museum of Modern Art. She sent in her own personal copies in the 1940's to be preserved properly and they put them aside and forgot about them for decades. By the time she had inquired about the films they were decayed beyond saving and she was devastated and spent the rest of her life trying in vain to find other prints.

[@jstarstudios7110]

OBSESSED WITH THE FACT THAT SOMEONE SAID "I'M GOING TO MAKE THE FUTURE OF COMEDY", THEN FILMED HIMSELF BOTHERING PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND GETTING INTO FIGHTS, THUS ACCURATELY PREDICTING A CERTAIN ERA OF ONLINE COMEDY,,, the madman actually did it!!!

[@cnrsfilms]

I did a paper on the development of animated films in a college class, and I brought up El Apostol and its significance. I had no idea the film's creator made another movie, which is crazy since that one is nestled after Prince Achmed and before Snow White.

[@LucasIsHereYT]

The soundtrack to "Every N****r is a Star" is actually pretty great, it has some funky tunes and the title track was even sampled by Kendrick Lamar.

[@TheNutmeg666]

Much love & respect for the lost media community for their hard detective work over the decades.

[@crashbandicoot5636]

Nice, can't wait for some of these to be found tomorrow. Thanks as usual, Jorge! 😂

[@blameitonjorge]

😂😂😂

[@simontheshortsguy]

​@@blameitonjorgeWhen Is Lost Media Update Vol. V?

[@rafiputra9844]

55:10 There's another popular lost Indonesian film; it's called "Pocong" ("Shrouded Ghost" in english), originally slated to be released around 2005. It's a horror/slasher film about a shrouded corpse who haunts people who have wronged them. The movie didn't pass the censorship standards and was subsequently banned because it brought back the old wounds of the 1998 Indonesian regime change riots and a subplot of the film was deemed "too offensive" towards minority races by the Indonesian censorship boards. The film's final cut was also said to be too violent and gruesome. Now, what remains of the film is just a short international teaser trailer for festivals & a teaser poster. Though, despite its cancellation, the director of the film decided to go make a sequel of the film, titled "Pocong 2", in 2006, which became one of the most famous Indonesian horror films of that decade, and was followed by two sequels; "Pocong 3" in 2007, "The Real Pocong" in 2010, and a remake, "Pocong: Origins" in 2019 (this one was a 'soft reinterpretation' of the OG banned film's story, if i'm not mistaken)

[@walterwhite4398]

Do you remember the highland tower found footage thing?

[@curesaul5749]

There is also Satoshi Kon's unfinished film Dreaming Machine that never got completed because of his passing, but half of it was already animated yet never seen y the public eye.

[@WojtekDetko]

Those who are searching "Heartbeat in the Brain" might have some luck in Poland. Believe it or not this (or some other documentary featured the scene of her drilling her skull) was aired in Polish TV in late 90's early 2000's. I was little kid but I vividly remember that scene. If I remember correctly the woman said that after drilling hole in her skull she later went to the party in the evening lol.

[@stephenlovesyou4151]

Thanks for the lead.

[@WojtekDetko]

@@stephenlovesyou4151 No problem. I can't remember the station sadly, it wasn't any major one. I think it might be Polonia but I'm not sure. At that time there weren't many Polish tv stations so at least searching should go easier.

[@Peppered_Spores]

She's recently been on Joe Rogan too if any of you guys are interested!

[@stephenlovesyou4151]

@@Peppered_Spores do you know the episode number?

[@whitegenome22]

How the heck did she not die lol

[@AppleJuiceStudios]

As someone who HAS seen Mess O Blues since my father worked on JB, it was entertaining. Even I have urged Van to release it to the public. I haven’t seen it in well over a decade and a half, so I won’t be able to remember much, sadly, since my memory is fading somewhat.

[@willpower8289]

I don’t think this classifies on lost media but I recently remembered an old Lego video I used to watch when I was little. You see back in 2009 Lego had a theme known as Power Miners where the titular Power Miners dig underground and fought rock monsters. The video in particular that I’m talking about was a really well made stop motion video where three male power miners are simping over this woman power miner (note there were no official female power miner characters but I digress) and when one of them goes to talk with her she begins to sing a song to him. Her mouth was also fully animated too unlike the other characters in the video. As she sang rock monsters proceeded to act as her backup singers causing two of the power miners to run away in fear as she sang and the one who tried to talk with her trying to escape. The video from what I can remember was very well animated being completed stop motion aside from the mouth of the female power miner. I’ve tried looking for it on KZbin to no success. One detail I do remember is they all sing in unison the words (if I remember correctly) “K N U C K” and the only word related I can think of is knuckle. I don’t expect any aid in searching for this but it’s something I thought I’d try to throw into the Lost Media world. Thank you for your time.

[@owck3527]

If Lego (the actual company) produced it then it should at least documented somewhere by them. Maybe search beyond KZbin for a full list of Lego productions.

[@willpower8289]

@@owck3527 Will do. I don’t believe it was produced by Lego but it’s worth a shot. Thank you.

[@silverflight01]

According to Wikipedia another 40 seconds of Cleopatra was found not long after this video was uploaded. It's a small drop of water compared to the lake that is the entire film's duration, but it's still something

[@crypticcryptid5104]

Glad to see Paul Naschy's Nights of the Werewolf be included. He made a bonkers amount of movies during his lifetime and I could see him misremembering what he had made. Either way, great actor and made some great horror movies.

[@m0istur]

A pet peeve that i have about lost media is when someone has a movie that is completed but they choose not to release it. If theres a certain reason like maybe it was disturbing or the files were robbed or maybe it became lost due to other reasons then yeah I'll understand, but if its not then I wont really understand why

[@mushroomkingdomhearts8331]

Who in the world is going to want to watch a movie of a woman drilling a hole in her head??? Now I understand the thumbnail, but wow I can't stop rubbing my forehead thinking about it, what was she thinking? I'm surprised the person who filmed her doing that didn't become traumatized! 😰

[@slavprussiaottomanfinlandUSUK]

An excellent iceberg would be a lost music iceberg. The amount of lost, or at least undiscovered, music out there is absolutely insane. There's stuff like unreleased masters, or the tons of random manuscripts of sheet music from unknown to famous composers from centuries ago. Then there is what I like, which is all the 45 and 78 RPM records from all over the world that have never been re-released.

[@alexiskuwata]

Yeah... Just Can't Let Her Go by One Direction kind of counts as that since we have the song partially.

[@paolarei4418]

I know a lost music, it comes from a size of the universe comparison video and also the original creator of the music and the creator of the vid are prob terminated, want the link?

[@prokeikas7284]

This man can make any topic creepy and unsettling with his editing

[@alejovc]

Roy del Espacio it’s the “worst” animated Mexican movie made and it has a pretty interesting background story. Sadly, the movie has not been seen since its premiere in 1983 and the right holders seemingly don’t want to re-release the film any time soon. No online footage exists and the only scenes we have are the ones found in lobby cards, and even these stills are in black and white.

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

What's the backstory behind this film?

[@alejovc]

@@HotFuss-gd9qr The Lost Media Wiki has a very detailed article on the film (which I edited myself), but to summarize the main points: 1. The film took 3 years (1979-1982) to produce but it was made by unexperienced animators, essentially people with some drawing skills but with no notions of animation. The producer even made his own children and other relatives to participate in the animation process. They used rotoscopy by taking as a basis several films from the 1930's Flash Gordon serial. The director used to brag about the fact he did not need professionals to rotoscope. 2. The director had no idea of animation and the producer was known in Mexico for writing and making exploitation movies. One of his most notoriously sleazy titles is "The infernal rapist" (it's as bad as it sounds). 3. Even if the result was as amateurish and ineptly made as one can imagine, the film got premiered in 12 cinemas in Mexico City, but they only played the movie for 3 days, before pulling it out for good. I assume there were some other screenings across Mexico and California after or around 1983. Roy del Espacio has become the most notorious case of lost media in the Spanish-speaking sphere, and that's why, for the last 2 years, I have been trying to get it re-released by talking with the producer's relatives, but so far it's unclear if we are to see the movie again, let alone a small snippet. It seems that there is no commercial interest for an Mexican animated B-movie, but much worse stuff has been restored in 4K and released on Blu-ray. I don't see why we cannot have Roy, even if it's just for its historical importance, as it was the third animated feature ever made in Mexico.

[@ertuio20002]

​@@HotFuss-gd9qrthe director though that making an animated movie could have been easy so he made the movie with rotoscopy using a flash gordon movie and a bunch of kids as animators

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

@@ertuio20002 Damn. Feel bad for the children.

[@5ashll303]

The music in this video is both creepy/ unsettling, but also calming in a sense. Especially during the Noah’s arc segment

[@fallingforever]

thanks :)

[@TheVideoIsLongEnough]

​​@@fallingforeveryou gotta help me, what is the track that starts at 16:50? I've been going through your whole catalog like a madwoman trying to find it

[@fallingforever]

@TheVideoIsLongEnough just uploaded it to my channel :)

[@malformedfun3625]

@@TheVideoIsLongEnough I was also searching for this song. I believe this is it. Was uploaded less than 24 hours ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWPcopdpbtCdgNk

[@connorrorison4247]

One “lost” (kinda, we’ll get into it) film I desperately want to see is the original English language version of Footsteps In The Snow (1966). It’s a Canadian thriller film that’s really only notable for being the penultimate film appearance of Veronica Lake (1922 - 1973), who was a major star in the 1940s. For some reason it’s only available online in German, and the only other reel that’s been found also had a hardwired dub on it. It’s a long shot that anyone will ever find it considering how uneventful it’s release was, coupled with the fact that other than Lake, none of the cast or crew are particularly notable in film history

[@DumbBunny5328]

The radio in _Fairylogue and Radio-Plays_ comes from an era in history where the word was thrown around haphazardly to make things sound alluring. Similar to words like quantum or cyber today.

[@jubjub444]

First Men in the Moon actually got a remake in 1964. I remember watching it on TV once and thought it was really interesting movie...considering it came out 5 years before the Moon landing.

[@zakku1732]

I remember when you made your "top 40 disturbing kids show moments" videos and other things like that, and i've been watching you all the years since. you got me into lost media and internet mysteries. thank you for your good work, Jorge.

[@LuxuriousInterior]

I bet that London After Midnight is still out there. I remember talking to some old dude and he claimed he watched a bootleg copy in the back of a book store back in the 60s.

[@alexiskuwata]

My boyfriend claimed that he watched it in school... turns out he actually watched the remake.

[@ekurisona663]

absolutely love your videos Man I'd love obscure media for decades and you putting the time into these things that I don't have is super valuable and appreciated

[@blameitonjorge]

Thank you very much :)

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

It's sad that a majority of early silent films are now lost. It's crazy how people back then view film as just a fad, unaware of what the medium eventually became. Personally, my favorite lost films I would wish to be found are The Golem (I really like folklore), London After Midnight (the Holy Grail of horror films), lost Georges Melies films (they look so charming and ahead of its time), Spider-Man vs Kraven The Hunter (cuz I am a big Spidey fan), and the lost Jojo Phantom Blood movie (cuz I am also a massive Jojo fan).

[@JamesGilbert_]

_London After Midnight_ and _Cleopatra_ are at the absolute top of my personal list for lost films I want to see.

[@alexiskuwata]

London After Midnight and Empress Chung for me.

[@Nerdtendo6366]

I discovered Cry Baby Lane as a 10 year old when I first discovered Lost Media and it pretty much traumatized me just by it’s existence

[@JimMilton-ej6zi]

I feel like every time i hear "they have no plans to release it" i just can't help but think "if someone broke in, stole it, made a copy then put the original back i would praise that person"

[@LaLavaneko]

Why shouldn't the creating company or copyright owners have a say? Imagine you made a painting and didn't want it released but someone photographed it and posted it online. The world isn't owed content just because it exists, that's entirely up to the creator.

[@alicewright4322]

Herzog must be hiding some terrible footage for "Game in the Sand" - just like the footage in "Grizzly Man", it is his call to release it or not, and he probably made the correct decision. I am grateful that he is willing to watch traumatic things for his audience, and cares enough to spare them the trauma when there is not commensurate artistic merit. Herzog does show terrible things, when he figures we ought to see them, there is nothing censorious about it. He is simply not cruel or capitalistic or vulgar enough to show terrible things without profound reason behind it, and I think that is a good thing.

[@muffin8460]

a BlameitonJorge video is always a W (if it’s about Lost Media)

[@sam_man3213]

(always a W no matter what)

[@punkinpi5079]

Why is it only a W if it's about Lost Media? Has he made an L video that was not about Lost Media?

[@slurpee4203]

whats that supposed to mean?

[@kimifw58]

Empty compliments like these are an L.

[@muffin8460]

@@kimifw58 how is it empty? i just like his content

[@astralcurrent]

Film Vault fires are truly the 20th century versions of the burning of Alexandria. A huge chunk of history and culture just completely lost to never be recovered

[@Glitch_X-pl1np]

Uncle Walts portrayals of Disney Characters in rather mature rolls, such as Goofy as a pimp, sounds like something you would see on MAD or Robot Chicken these days

[@vincenttt8289]

If I had a nickel every time an unofficial Batman and Dracula movie became lost, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

[@JojishiAMVs]

Just gonna put it out there, I've seen lots of graphic stuff, but just the stills of the final entry really sent shivers down my spine. That is a horrible thing to not only do willinly to yourself, but also film it and screen it publicly multiple times. Just spine tingly horrible.

[@clarkthatcher8165]

Another honorable mention that isn’t really a whole film but more like an ending, was the ending of Dr. Strangelove! In the original script, a pie fight scene happens. It was filmed but cut due to Stanley Kubrick not really liking it, plus with some certain lines said by general Turgidson that were eerily similar to the JFK assasination (which happened the day Dr. Strangelove was supposed to be released). So it got cut, and it was only shown once in 1999, and the only things that remain are a good handful of stills.

[@BeyondBaito]

Together For Days was also the only movie Northern Calloway was in before he was on Seseme Street. The only TV show he was on until 1989. He died in 1990. He was suppose to be in "Follow That Bird" but at the time he suffered a meltdown from Bipolar disorder and was considered to have a criminal history because of that, so he was barred from traveling to Canada where the movie was filmed.

[@thanatoast]

I love how in your first Iceberg video you were all like "I'm late to the trend by now". Either way it's a treat to have an hour long video.

[@blameitonjorge]

Lol I think they’re less of a trend now and more of a video genre

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

​@@blameitonjorge3:00, Food-Fight sure had a wild History

[@vitorescic9516]

I remember watching Alibaba and the sunshine princess as a kid on a cartoon network we have in croatia. Core memory unlocked. If anyone has the time and will to maybe find it. It was airing on MiniTV.

[@justsomeguy4206]

I was pleasantly surprised to see a new upload today. It’s always a treat to sit back and watch you talk about lost media.

[@FormerlyAVM]

Citizen Kane colorized looks like the scariest movie ever made 😂

[@guaceldono7231]

Wake in Fright is an excellent movie and is entirely free on KZbin. If you can stomach some animal gore, it’s absolutely worth your time. It’s one of the best psychological horror movies I’ve ever seen.

[@daisygutierrez_7123]

Keep it up Jorge, your lost media videos are awesome

[@coolboyyo654]

maybe we should have not stored all of our incredibly flammable films in one place where the slightest breath would cause them to burn away

[@alexiskuwata]

This ^

[@absurdum-the-artist]

I love Theda Bara a lot and it’s heartbreaking to know I won’t see most movies with her