The Lowest BR All-Aspect(ish) Missiles | Lightning F.6 War Thunder Pack Giveaway

[@GeneralLee2000]

If you haven't seen it yet, I made a 10 minute guide to missiles! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqWvn42ebKiir7c

[@rubberdurrkie]

Excellent! Knowledge!! 🤓

[@joshualee925]

It's wild how large the afterburners are for so a low BR. It also seems like it has good thrust in general.

[@ncrtrooper5442]

This plane was so ahead of its time. It was capable of going mach 1.... Flying vertically.

[@treanttrooper6349]

@@ncrtrooper5442 and it could also takeoff and immediately go vertical, this thing was absolutely wild

[@squirrelmurderous]

@@treanttrooper6349 and it could [and did] takeoff during ground testing. XD

[@THECHEESE2023]

It could supercruise, climb higher than the U2, and go mach 2.5

[@Sweeps_]

Sea Vixen at 8.7 with 4x Red Tops go brrrt

[@DylanTurner-k8e]

I just wish it had fucking guns

[@masterpiggames8657]

Love the old english jets, also the ability to supercruise without afterburners with the Lightning is insane

[@thekebabizer4620]

this thing is somehow both really strong and really lacking at the same time

[@cringelord2121]

This is just facts ngl

[@rylanpien]

For this jet, speed is key. You're a brick if you dont have speed in it

[@kingghidorah8106]

the plane that can't touch nor be touched

[@white0663]

Lightning F.6 has made a crazy revival recently and I’ve seen a lot of positive video content surrounding the F.6. This is just another thing to add to the list of awesome features this plane has. Solid video.

[@BokoDisraeli]

There is some very interesting documentation about the all aspect capabilities of Red Top available. It’s situational, but definitely more capable than it is currently especially against non afterburning targets.

[@GoodboiOfficial]

The Sea Vixen gets the Red Top at way lower BR :P

[@GeneralLee2000]

True true

[@Gunner._]

When the red top was added back in the day it was great nowadays its a generaly good but not like it once was

[@GeneralLee2000]

About accurate yee

[@TomPrickVixen]

Yea I had a few headon kills with the redtops as well, but i also had a radar-lock doing so. And I sure this thin is faster than the F-104s it faces; at least i could always outrun them at 6000m and below, not sure about the Milan, those things never try to chase anything other than the 1st base drop...

[@Laconianarms]

the lightnings look so goofy with the twin engine thing going on at the back

[@MEME.DADDY14]

The lightning is certainly an interesting aircraft, it's ability to super cruise and the limited all aspect capabilities make it quite interesting at 9.3. Glad to see it's back from the dead since the introduction of premiums like the A-10, SU-25 and A-6E.

[@friendlysnoworb6091]

it's always nice to see the lightning getting some love, last plane ever developed entirely domestically

[@epicduckhd5531]

Very glad I only just recently got the Lightning and now you're balling out with it, love to see it!

[@liamboyle9199]

I've been inspired to use the Hunter F.58 recently and I am yet to see a Lightning in my matches😂 Bit of a rare bird.

[@GeneralLee2000]

Very much so ahahaha

[@fenriders7008]

I still think it’s a travesty that Germany gets the best Hunter in the game. The current hunters really suffer at their BR outside of downtiers.

[@liamboyle9199]

@fenriders7008 It is and same for the Vampires🙃

[@teo3746]

This is my first video I've watched from you and well, its good seeing someone review this plane again after so long, and the giveaway sounds sick ^^

[@GeneralLee2000]

Glad you enjoyed it! Welcome!

[@flippyz7206]

the side aspect game of the red tops is insane as well. can get side locks from like 4 or 5km sometimes

[@ActuallyNotIlmatar]

I was kinda sad to miss out on the Lightning F6 when it left the shop. Especially after playing a bit on the Javelin, which also gets the Rat Top. It seems really solid to slap oblivious players, who sit on afterburner the entire game.

[@GeneralLee2000]

The javelin doesn't have the red top, it has the firestreak

[@Anonymous-kf5bo]

Loved playing this plane a couple of years ago, really fallen off since the a10 and other simliar planes were added. great video!

[@natesiress1057]

I remember getting an all-aspect shot with the AIM-9E on a Tornado while afterburning, it was a pretty decent range too. He was absolutely livid

[@SkyWardSword1]

I always give this thing a wide berth when I'm in my 104 just because I know its one of the few things that can match me for speed. Haven't encountered enough of them to know about the pseudo all-aspect nature of the red top though!

[@samuelgurtler722]

Your videos are amazing. When i ragequit warthunder i allways chill out watching them

[@GeneralLee2000]

Ahahaha, felt that 😅

[@bpmgaming3351]

I thought for sure these would be MCLOS with the all aspectish title. I'd heard of RedTops but don't really come across them as I play 10.0-10.7 ARB for the most part so it was nice to see what they are.

[@Last_Baguette0001]

It's nice to see some content being made on a overshadowed aircraft.

[@MikiOk-kd6wf]

As you said this vehicle is really rare to see it may not be meta but its definitly fun to fly. It shows that britain tech tree have some cool and unique vehicles to offer that a lot of players miss out on.

[@Fa0404B]

Interesting. I used to play the Lightning a bit when it came out but I never really got to like it, will definitely give it a try again now :)

[@GeneralLee2000]

Fair enough! It's still very situational but I think it's pretty funny

[@Louis-Senior]

Having missiles that can lock in a head on at 9.3 is crazy! - Great vid Lee :)

[@demonicsuagercane]

This is certainly one of the planes of all time.

[@kartonoshi2181]

Quite a helpful video because someone oudplay me with this plane, and since I saw it for the first time I didn't know what to expect :P

[@cl3matis]

video 4 of congratulating lee on having the best outro music on youtube honestly, the Lightning I think is my favourite 9.0-9.3 plane right now, you have such a performance advantage over almost anything you see, even in a semi-uptier. The MiG-21MF is probably the most difficult thing to deal with cause it will happily sit behind you, but still, solid plane regardless. also funny missiles go brr, i didn't know you could use Red Tops head on also also you should play the Jaguar GR.1A, it has this miraculous ability to point the nose absolutely anywhere you want it to, even if it doesn't turn that well lol. weird sensation, you can have the nose like 30 degrees off to the side but you're still going forwards. very fun once you get used to it. and stupid missile rails on the top of the wings too lol

[@GeneralLee2000]

I might play it at some point for sure. I've already used it myself just not sure if I wanna make a video on it.

[@huhu_4576]

i've been playing war thunder since a long time now, and i didn"t know anything about those red top missiles, that's amazing, nice video btw ;)

[@nikospapasotiropoulos]

I was thinking of skipping the Lightning and going straight for the tornado but with how the match maker is now and this plains BR it is probably worth playing !!!

[@wrechedsquirrel2766]

This thing is like the planes I used to draw in school and I love it

[@MichaelSmith-qj9dj]

i have only seen this plane in a real game like 1 or 2 times, must be very rare

[@ignaciopacheco4587]

Gotta say, I love the "how to train your dragon" music at the end, it always gets me

[@GeneralLee2000]

It's so nice man :)

[@NickyWild]

Im pretty new to top tier, your vids help a lot, keep up the good work mate!

[@GeneralLee2000]

Cheers, I'll do my best!

[@Enosann]

I love playing Lightning F.6 when I was still grinding the British Tech Tree. one of my favourites

[@amat3ur_]

Hi Lee, discovered your channel a longer time ago on a other account and instantly enjoyed ur vids! Keep on doing them!

[@GeneralLee2000]

Thanks, will do!

[@Hadgerz]

not sure when they'll start modelling aircraft skin temperatures, but the fact that the sea vixen gets 4x of these red tops and sees 7.7 makes me glad for the recent missile drag changes at least

[@nemezorargon2597]

I gotta be honest, seein people use the F-6 makes me kinda happy since after the f-53 gota dded amd played to death the F-6 just got left on the curb

[@buttermilk6953]

great as always, i have a mate that struggles with this plane and ill be showing him this vid!

[@MrPanzerCatYT]

Drag changes hit alot of missiles really bad. The r23t feels pretty bad at range now if a target maneuvers. Missiles with short burn times really got hit hard by these changes

[@mavor101]

Try going from firing pythons or aim-9ls to using R-60ms. What a joke lol.

[@ProfessorBooty69]

Like the F104 this is one of those inbetween planes that is in desperate need of BR decompression. When planes do this well in downtiers but suffer this bad in upteirs then you know the BRs are too compressed. Milans, 104s, This, J35 that sorta of bad missile no flares stuff that still faces Korea era jets occasionally.

[@kiubekpl5863]

They defenetly have less range than aim9b, its just that they can be fired from side or even all aspect when range is not as important so it may seem quite simmilar.

[@underconsideration3227]

Very under rated, like a few other British 9.3s.

[@jacksond5640]

Was going to go for the f104 after my warthunder break, but I may go for the lightning too.

[@Rorywizz]

On the Sea vixen the rockets can be used to lead the missile in a head on against a non afterburning target, it's not always reliable but it works quite a lot. I'd assume the same could be done with the Lightning f56 as well

[@mouadbiyad6251]

I feel like the Lighting was a better plane when it came out a bunch of years ago but it still competes at its br. But as you said, it doesn’t perform well in a full uptier againts all-aspect missles

[@oliveiraqmatouoleao]

The Lightning is legit one of my favourite jet fighters ever made, i think it looks really cool. I'm also kinda sad i never had the chance of buying the premium variant, with its cursed rocket pods, cause i was on a war thunder break then. Also it can supercruise on the deck, which is another cool feature for its BR.

[@tNebula_]

Out of all my war thunder matches, I have only ever seen 2-3 lightnings. It looks like a very funny aircraft

[@farmcat9873]

Don't forget the French BR 8.3 S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) that has a nice little surprise like this .....kind of. Also the Sea Vixen has the Redtop and Firestreak AAM but its also ay a lower BR than the Lightning F6 and its a BR 8.7 and to bad they stopped selling the premium version of the Lightning F.53 that comes in at random times for sale.

[@Pittoners]

The lighting is really funny looking but has amazing vapabilities at least engine-wise. It's so cool.

[@grievousminded7517]

Cool thing about it is that it can reach supercruise at sea level. I really like her, if just the snail hadn't messed up the missiles. Before the last missile rework red tops had a larger range/ longer boost time.

[@ed_then_a_lot_ofnumbers5697]

glad the lightning is getting some recognition now

[@davidbailey6182]

Kinda crazy how this it at 9.3 when the j35a is 9.7 with worse missiles and less thrust, it's in no way a bad plane but it gets oppressed by the 9.7-10.7 premium hell zone and falls more in line with this br and it would keep it from constant uptiers imo. Oh well, can only hope for a br revision once the economy stuff is all put in place

[@lolsadboi1238]

i remember this thing being a menace back in 2019 when 9.7 was infested with AV-8A's

[@ToastyNerd]

Never realized just how capable that thing could be, especially with the matchmaker being what it is

[@MokkaHai]

the lightning having prety high AOA is one of my fav traits of any plane

[@kiki7170]

I like the Red Top, but I just think AIM-9s are a bit more useful at times

[@GeneralLee2000]

I would take any AIM-9 after the 9B/E over them for sure.

[@blume6143]

One of the most unique aircrafts in game and looks beautiful

[@mehrabrahman5670]

lightnings are underrated. However, the video title is worng, the vautour interceptor has radar missiles which are all aspect missiles at 8.7. it still is a great video, keep up the quick schedule

[@shanriazee78]

I'm done grinding USA and Most of USSR. GB has gone up only till Rank IV. when I get there I will check this vehicle. But for some reason I'm pulled towards Germany rather than playing GB for the most part.

[@useravailable4763]

Im glad I don't see that often even though its mid, id be that f104 that would take the head-on.

[@Kadekuru]

Oh cool, never knew the redtop could all-aspect against afterburning jets in my time using it huh

[@Adam2422]

hmm, might have to revisit the lightning for the funny 'all aspect' head ons

[@reinyfrost3753]

Fireflashes at 8.7 with the Swift F.7, which practically are all-aspect too

[@fox_dsa6694]

The fact you killed someone while the tail Was gone was pretty impressive 😂

[@rayane6760]

I have the lightning and it's REALLY good when used properly

[@rickscheesesteank1600]

i remember playing the sea vixen it was so fun with the red tops

[@ZSlayer_05]

thing drifts more than i do in assetto corsa and it says a lot

[@Yeet42069]

5:50 that is called a rudder, without vert you cannot pull in the direction you want.

[@THECHEESE2023]

Why cant the lightning supercruise in war thunder, and why cant it hit mach 2?

[@emancrusher1221]

That lightning really zips by in a downtier

[@mitchverr9330]

I have to say I really miss when red tops actually worked for the short time after the Sea Vixen came out on sale, but I guess the sales dried up so gaijin dont care about fixing up the missile thats only on 2 planes to make them actually useful. (I had the same issue of unable to get to the target when launching from directly above people moving at 400m/s before at a couple of km) From what I have read, its massively underperforming vs IRL, its worse than the SRAAM. The missile was in use up to 1988, if it was this bad it would have been replaced by any of the other missile systems developed/put into use at some point lol.

[@fartplayer69]

this is so overpowered for a all aspect at its br and you will just completely destroy anything in its path in a downtier

[@guilhermecaria9676]

That plane is cool, makes me wanna research britain after I'm done with sweden

[@mavor101]

@GeneralLee2000 if it makes you feel any better, the R-60M, forced on even 12.0 russian planes, also doesn't have enough range to hit a target from 1.5km or greater when fired from the rear. (re. your comment on the poor range of the redtop at 9.3) :)

[@mohammaddaleen6420]

The Lightning F.6 is one of my favorite aircrafts

[@zetorrhm]

So the lighting is still capable even with the missiles spam (like aim 9d/g, r60/m)? Anyway it seems pretty fun to play in a down tier like a better f104 + the 30mm are fine compared to the 20mm with real shatter

[@perennialE]

I can still hear him to this day, it's sounds just like Lee is still with us 😔

[@GeneralLee2000]

So sad!!!

[@steazy3239]

Bro i remember when I was playing 8.3 and I was getting destroyed by the Lightning. Hated that thing so much.

[@el_cytrynno868]

I was thinking about grinding the lightning after this wideo i must do it.

[@forseir]

I must say, if they hadn’t of taken this away I would have picked up the lightning, english jets in general are super unique

[@OzzyTheWild]

Fighting Lighting in a Mig15 is kinda frustrating xD. They are faster, have pretty good missiles and, like you said, sometimes can pull some weird maneuver. Like always, very nice video :)

[@battlefox7614]

man got the double barrel plane out so REAL

[@SlimShady1243]

I got lightning recently, but i left it alone, since I cannot make red tops work. I guess I'll try it in a diffrent manner :P

[@alexsabau5942]

Just found your channel, and I have to say great stuff!

[@GeneralLee2000]

Tysm!

[@KingKrimson1000]

I think air could use some decompression around the 9.0-10.0 range. It's always rough to see jets with no CMs against all aspect missiles towards the top of that bracket.

[@Wally_Wombat689]

ik every match ive played has been full uptiered and getting swatted by mig21 smts with r3rs, i can litterally do nothing

[@robotox8672]

I like those gimmicky weapons, some additional challenges in the game.

[@n1ght1ngal3]

man it's sad how almost every late 50's 9.3 plane is basically untouchable for earlier subsonics but is not good enough to be fighting planes with somewhat advanced weapon systems such as mig-21's or whatever ground attackers gaijoob has decided to put around 10.0

[@starmank9940]

great video about the red top even though it almost blasted out my eardrums a few seconds into the video

[@GeneralLee2000]

LMFAO, I equalized the volume as best I could 😅

[@scotspellcloud7828]

Been really enjoying the lightning lately too tbh

[@spingebill8551]

The English Electric Lighting is the most underrated plane of the Cold War in my opinion. From a time when br*tain was still very cool (minus the whole colonization thing).

[@teapeakay]

just like am*rica, br*tain has been ruined by its government

[@urmum3773]

Snowflake

[@PanArbuz-7466]

I used to hate this thing and did terrible in it but now it's the complete opposite. don't know if it was a skill issue or the new match making is better for it, either way I always love to see a new video from you

[@Oakfoxx]

Just started trying to spade this thing, super fun plane.

[@hubababuba]

dude your videos are amazing, keep up the good work!!!

[@GeneralLee2000]

Thanks, will do!

[@dnareptiles4467]

I'll have to give this a shot. I've been looking for something new to fly. The F5E and MIG 21 SMT are awesome but they're getting kind of boring.

[@MaxVelzgg]

Can you tell us the difference between the aim9G and aim9H? :b

[@bdub1682]

Huh Interesting Ik the red top had all aspect vs supersonic planes but I didn't know they modeled that in a way ingame

[@EduardoGarcia-xu5wk]

This plane is awesome the only downsight would be the lack of reliable ammo imo