THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES

MAG120 - Case #0170908 - Various
Statement of Elias Bouchard, regarding the dreams of Jonathan Sims, Head Archivist of the Magnus Institute, currently unresponsive.
The head of the Magnus Institute tells the tale of the aftermath of the Archival outing to Great Yarmouth and the subsequent administrative change.
Content Notes: Blood, body horror, buried alive, burned alive, direct violence, insect infestation, self-harm, worms
Starring: The Archivist - Jonanthan Sims; Martin Blackwood - Alexander J Newall; Police Officer - Richard Davies; Peter Lukas - Alasdair Stuart
Writer: Jonathan Sims
Director: Alexander J Newall
Editors: Alexander J Newall, James Austin, Brock Winstead
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[@SnackBasket]

Elias was really like: "Anyway Martins gay, so if you need any updates, ask him" huh?

[@sarahmccausland7035]

where? I think I missed that

[@sedeslasedeslarson9655]

@@sarahmccausland7035 When Elias was screwing around in Martin's head, he mentioned that he would do anything for Jon. Later in that same interaction between them Martin mentions his feelings for Jon and says Elias can't use them against him.

[@rorygiambalvo2955]

@@sarahmccausland7035 when Peter Lucas said Elias told him Martin would be keeping a close eye on Jon's condition

[@SwirlyPinwheel]

I DO NOT like Peter Lukas, but he has earned some points by offering therapy for these poor bastards.

[@DerMoerpler]

I don't trust him an inch. He can be nice and a good, therapy-offering boss all he wants, that guy is planning something sinister.

[@zaki4418]

I DO NOT like him at all, how come y’all forgot that he LEFT a dude in the middle of Atlantic Ocean???!!! like- poor dude doesn’t have a friend and scared and he probably died from starvation and coldness

[@theprideling]

@@zaki4418 Also that one spider guy is rid of spiders but also of everyone esle in the world probably

[@sammieegoldwand]

I audibly said "FINALLY" when he mentioned that they should all get some therapy. Magnus institute archival staff x therapy best ship. BUt yeah I don't trust or like peter lukas at all.

[@0nullnil]

I don't trust him either because of everything he's done but therapy is just what they all need.

[@malmorose]

The sheer catharsis of Elias getting punched in the stomach Nice.

[@IaMSpeaks]

Ah yes... supporting police brutality.

[@Iquey]

@@IaMSpeaks only a bit. He deserved it. Britishpolice didn't go entirely ham on him as American police do. Imagining more beating noises and tons excessive swearing.

[@IaMSpeaks]

@@Iquey I'm from the US... And that's not the point, all cops are bad

[@himeow7454]

@@IaMSpeaks You can enjoy hearing Elias get punched and hate the guy who did it

[@mushmushmush]

@@IaMSpeaks fictional police brutality

[@VictoriaACWXY]

ngl for a moment there i really thought martin was gonna end up as the new head of the magnus institute

[@pianos4095]

Lol same, I WISH

[@patti6937]

I thought the same.

[@azulBjort_1406]

Same😅

[@purplecatloverrandompizza]

I think he did too

[@teleutenachtigaller2762]

Same. He should have.

[@oftheangels777]

My crops are watered, my skin is clear, my loans are paid off, and my soul is at peace - all because Elias got the life decked out of him.

[@Matheus-ql7mn]

Not gonna lie - I listened more times than I needed him being punched 😅 It's a good day to be alive. (Rip Tim, Rip Daisy)

[@cjshattered2293]

It seems like you're in a great state for peeling

[@BreadGolem]

God I am so sad that Tim is dead... Admittedly, Elias getting punched made me feel a lot better.

[@anactualbird6801]

Me too and then I think about how upset Bisera will be about Daisy's death.

[@nanahuatli2144]

@@anactualbird6801 That was the first thing I thought. Bloodthirsty people die early and violently, and I didn't like her much so I didn't cry for her, but poor Basira. Just after she said how much Daisy meant to her.

[@victory_snow8220]

I felt sooooooooooo much joy hearing him gasp for breath after the cop punched him

[@midnights2631]

Elias deserved to be punched

[@suzerainty4192]

Mr Joe Spooky it's been an honor o7 😭 And I can see how the Lonely keeps managing to find spouses; Peter's very charming

[@just_a_cryptid]

o7

[@catdn7011]

boat husband

[@nevermindneven]

Elias getting punched is great and all.. but I was NOT quite ready for Tim dying :( I will miss that bastard terribly

[@NaturallyCapricious]

He was so sassy, I'm holding out hope that he will annoy whoever runs the afterlife enough that they send him back to the living world

[@silcrow4045]

@@NaturallyCapricious i know im not quite uptodate on this show yet, but i thought there was *no* afterlife.

[@BoredxISxI]

at least SOMEONE got to hit Elias

[@IaMSpeaks]

a police officer... hit a civilian and you're happy about that?

[@grinstrashcan]

​@@IaMSpeaks I'm pretty sure that people are only happy about Elias getting punched and not about a police officer hitting a civilian, considering that the show was portraying the police in a bad light from the start.

[@IaMSpeaks]

@@grinstrashcan Context matters. Don't cheer for police brutality losers.

[@TheMarkFlanagan]

@@IaMSpeaks no, you're right, force shouldn't be applied to the two time murder employee mind raping civilian.

[@nanahuatli2144]

@@IaMSpeaks Stories and reality are very different things. This is a story. It's not real. There's nothing in common between acheering for a fictional monster getting punched by a police character and supporting real-life cops being violent.

[@oftheangels777]

I don’t fully trust Peter yet _but_ I’m glad he’s making the institutes pockets hurt by sending everyone to therapy

[@Fyttiana]

he is part of one of the families that fund the institute. He is only hurting his own pocket.

[@maybe0rdinary]

@@Fyttiana but you know how it is, Sugar Daddy Fear Entity can make money on whim, if anything he's just entertaining himself

[@lel1160]

it feels very much like Diversity Win ! new potentially evil overlord sends everyone to therapy ! 😂

[@citra1885]

​@@maybe0rdinary “sugar daddy fear entity”😭

[@coreacartoonist]

@@citra1885Oh god he really is Elias’s sugar daddy 😭

[@CamilleChauTempsDesCerises]

So much to unpack here - Peter Lukas did really take notes on "how to be a good boss". I hope he will remember the "less murder" part - Rest in Tim. I wasn't suprised by your death, I just hope you'll be happier now. Rest in too Daisy, I suppose, you left as you lived - the statement was so well-written, it's fascinating and terrifying. And the voice actor of Elias does a wonderful job ! Thank you to all the team

[@corinnacougar881]

I've listened to all three seasons in maybe a week, if that.

[@Tom-zr6yn]

same! and good news for you, almost all of season 4 is out on their website

[@CassetteGlitch]

Me too, I started something like four days ago, it's rare that something has managed to make me so engrossed in the story so fast :')

[@aesynthi6884]

dude same

[@Companion92]

same

[@redcanaryunderground]

same, I started 5 days ago and i'm starting season 4 rn :)))))

[@xiaocheng6643]

That moment when Martin realizes he just exchanged his more or less stable, reasonable, psychopathic both against a chipper, unhinged, psychopathic ghost boss. I already hate that screechy static with a passion! Also, please rest in peace, Tim and Daisy😔

[@MrIsizukuri]

but at their initial meeting, Peter kinda promised Martin 'less murder' in his managerial style!

[@Shicksalblume]

"Be seeing you." A truth from an avatar of The Eye and a nice reference to The Prisoner all in one. I'd say nicely done, Bouchard, but I don't like you so get stuffed.

[@10brokenradios]

So thanks to you I started watching The Prisoner, and the Village sure seems like a perfect stronghold for the Eye! (By the way, what's up with the episode order? Looks like the only ones that are defined are the first and the last two, and i have no clue which order i should follow as a first time viewer.)

[@10brokenradios]

Alright i just finished The Prisoner. I feel like the Spiral must have been involved as well. What the hell was that.

[@krishadyn5211]

​@@10brokenradios The final episodes are supposed to be the Prisoner's descent into madness. Why Jon fears Helen's door, perhaps.

[@a_blitz]

Well i guess i am one of the few people that actually liked elias as both a character and a really cool antagonist. And the sass of this guy i loved it

[@DerMoerpler]

From a narrative and acting standpoint, Elias is amazing. Really interesting villain. The fact that I hate his guts and want him to meet a grisly end as soon as possible is a high praise for the creators.

[@TheNitpickChick]

I genuinely love him as a villain, and I long for the day someone decks him in the head with a folding chair! 😊 It’s rare to come across a villain like Elias that I love to hate so much, and still want them to keep coming back because they’re fucking fascinating to behold! A+ villain work, guys! Well done! 😁

[@scrub.777]

I love him too :)

[@fictionisgood7226]

Same

[@lokimemes4694]

*50 YEARS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO MY SOUL WHEN I HEARD ELIAS GETTING PUNCHED IN THE GUT!* Edit: 18:09 That’s the time stamp. Just- *Chef’s kiss*

[@pianos4095]

Truly 👌👌

[@polyxenifoutsitsi8827]

new ringtone, new morning alarm sound

[@fluffsnake]

thanks for the timestamp HAHA I would listen to that on repeat

[@azulBjort_1406]

@@polyxenifoutsitsi8827 😂😂😂😂 love that

[@Matheus-ql7mn]

I listened this part more times than I needed 😂

[@TheVnom]

Oh that ending, when he said : "THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES IS A PODCAST DISTRIBUTED BY RUSTY QUILL LIMITED AND LICENSED UNDER A CREATIVE COMMONS ATTRIBUTION NON-COMMERCIAL SHAREALIKE 4.0 INTERNATIONAL LICENSE" God that was good

[@karihuber3169]

The scariest part of the podcast😱

[@MrGeneralHeavy]

@@karihuber3169 i shit my pants :(

[@strawberrys0da714]

fuck yeah dude it sure is

[@GoliathPyroson]

He FINALLY got punched

[@IaMSpeaks]

did you skip over the fact that he was punched by a police officer?

[@elizasnow9661]

@@IaMSpeaks Yeah in a fictional story that has already portrayed the police in a negative light. It is really not that serious, people would have said the same thing and been even more happy if it were Martin that punches him. Not everything is a battle or that deep, no need to comment on almost every comment that is happy Elias got punched.

[@bandidocavalier]

@@IaMSpeaks i literally advocate for acab more than anythin but you need to stfu you are in like every comment mentioning this yes we are glad the bad guy got decked even if its by other bad guy how wrong of your mind are to think that somehow makes us support police brutality. Wtf

[@Iquey]

9:56 Exterminator's hand: wassup bro. Jon, forced to watch and do nothing: not much. Just chilling here in a highly active REM coma while you suffer in my memories. Exterminator hand: 🐜🖕🐜🐜🐜

[@jsk-art]

This made me think of the meme where it's a person drowning, and their hand is reaching out of the water, and someone just gives them a high five and then they drown.

[@americantoastman7296]

@@jsk-art "Im so depressed" "lmao mood" 🌊🖐️🌊🌊🌊

[@arifhossain9751]

So... i guess in his dreams he meets each of the Fear Patrons. Cool.

[@thebathroom6327]

Well, no, he visits the nightmares of people who gave a statement directly to him, the smiley apple guy, helen, melanie, daisy, ect. They just so happen to be from different patrons

[@trin-is-late]

"And at last, the Archivist looks up. At last, he looks into the eye that sees all, and knows all, and clutches at the secret terrors of your heart. The Ceaseless Watcher of all that is, and all that was; the voracious, infinite hunger the tears at his soul, invoking him to discover, to observe, to experience all, and everything, and forever. It stares into him, and it stares out of him, and he is falling into the devouring eternity of its pupil. He wants to cry out in horror, but he cannot. He. Is. Whole." DAMN, Mr. Sims....

[@hexedsandwich8261]

Loved this episode wow! I knew jon had nightmares but the fact that he's apparently living in the one's of other people's statements is chilling. Especially when all he can do is merely watch. Also peter lukas if you hurt martin i SWEAR

[@toadstooldarling9937]

jon dreaming of the 14 fears is such a cool way to reference things that have happened and what weve seen

[@viperv6768]

See, we all already know we cant trust Peter. However, if we didn't, the fact that he ended this episode with a "We are going to do great things, Martin. Great things" solidified it. No one innocent repeats that phrase.

[@lorenam2430]

1. Oh Jon 2. You go officer! 3. Oh yes totes not suspicious Mr. Lukas 4. I keep being surprised by his voice vs the fanart

[@axolotlthepowerful4643]

I know it's three years later but I agree with the voice thing every drawing shows him as an old grizzled boat captain and yet his voice sounds like a sauve businessman or something

[@miyurakokoro7131]

​@@axolotlthepowerful4643i think he looks and sounds like captain iglo 😂cant get this out of my mind

[@vX-ter_]

Is it just me or did anyone else have a weird feeling wash over them wile listening to this statement, like for starters jons dreams are a compilation of all the statements he's read, also this episode was (mostly) in third person. This is the first episode to be in first person and that makes me feel kinda odd. Its honestly mildly fascinating.

[@theWeaverofTales]

now hold on this show is just the terrifying ordeal of being known huh

[@paigefuentes1055]

OKAY HAH is it just me or did Daisy die the exact same way her senior colleague died when she first encountered a Section 31 that literally changed the course of her life? Coincidence? I THINK NOTT

[@stephan7457]

As much as i already love lucas for giving our favorite crew of archival assistants some therapy, im worried that he will push Martin to becoming like jon, a Avatar. Not for the Eye, but for the Lonely

[@TheJuliana0901]

...okay. okay. So. Uh, Lukas (not gonna call him Peter for now, don't trust him) is already a better boss than Elias, and that's on his first day. I guess, uh, Daisy died doing what she loved? Um. I'm really quite sad for Tim, way more than I thought I'd be. Feel like I'm gonna have to relisten to that statement to really understand what was going on. Almost gave me a heart attack when the Spotify playlist kept going and the voice of Tim went "Hello everyone! Mike here!" and for half a second I thought the fucker lived. Anyways. I don't even know how to verbalize how much I loved this? I do like horror, but this season, even though it didn't focus on it, was my favorite. It's just... really really well done, in terms of pacing and, everything, I guess. I have been listening to this for a long time. Time to listen to the Q&A I guess. Thanks for making this.

[@eliwhite6159]

Here's the new boss! Same as the old boss.

[@pianos4095]

No! This one gives you free counseling for the fuckled up things he does ^U^

[@WSchmidt09]

I really appreciate how it's clear how terrified Jon is of Jane Prentiss two full seasons after her getting iced. It makes a character who is more or less the "Starter Boss" of the series still feel consequential and menacing, even in death.

[@minty7945]

Alright,just wanted to get some thoughts out, time to analyze the season like an English teacher. I feel like Season 3 was mainly about Jon's struggle to retain his humanity and deny the fact that he was becoming a monster. It would explain why Jon declined talking to the Distortion again, who also was struggling with becoming something it did not want to become. Jon didn't want to admit that was what was happening to him. This episode really finishes that off, as Jon is trapped in a state where he can only watch, and not do anything. His attempt to stop the Unknowing was also probably his attempt to have some form of self-determination, to prove to himself that he's not stuck watching, an he's not just doing what the Eye wants. In the end, it seems he's lost his fight.

[@marynraven]

Relistening again. RIP Tim Stoker, absolute madlad and king.

[@Barely_Here]

honestly, its poetic that the archivists nightmare is watching everything, without being able to do a thing. A god in mind and perception, but nothing in action.

[@marinao4412]

(s4 spoilers) bruh I'm relistening and it's pretty fucking bold for peter "physical manifestation of a depressive episode" lukas to be like "you can go get therapy now if you want :)" to martin

[@mimkyodar]

How else will you know how deep your issues go unless you talk about them?

[@triciajanedomalanta1860]

i know elias getting arrested is all in part to martin and melanie but i like to think it was his previous actions in ep 118 that really did him in like yea sure he's got a couple murders under his belt but making martin cry?? go 2 jail eyeboy!!!!!!!!!

[@bluewolf619125]

Ik everyone is supposed to hate Elias, but i just cant get over how awesome he is as the mastermind supervillain. Like he is literally magically intelligent, a trait that would normally make such a villain more of a hollow character but due to the unique power system of the world it just justifies the confidence that make villains like him such magnificent bastards.

[@supersaturn0008]

I love that Lucas becomes the head institute guy and the first thing he does is give them all therapy lmao

[@nanahuatli2144]

This episode is one of those that stand out for its haunting prose, so well done. Elias getting what was coming to him doesn't hurt either. Peter Lukas is pretty chill but that just makes me dread him more, so I'll be fully expecting horrible things. Congrats on another excellent season! Onto s4.

[@friakula4763]

AAAAAAAAA THIS SEASON WAS SO GOOD IM SO HYPED TO START SEASON 4

[@jerimiaheasley9494]

Season 4 is out, it is available on the podcast feed. This week's episode was 137. KZbin takes a while to catch up. You can find it on Apple/Google podcasts or right here play.acast.com/s/themagnusarchives

[@sandymcneish7820]

I totally agree.

[@purplecatloverrandompizza]

I finished this entire season. In 5 days. SEASON ONE TOOK ME A MONTH HOW THE HELL

[@AerCloud]

We're all addicted

[@midnights2631]

Addiction is a drug

[@doozerpindan]

Statement Begins. "The Eye hungers." Statement Ends.

[@chillinwithfrogs9708]

I finished the season in 2 days .....

[@SkyP9812]

*looks at clock* it's been _how many_ hours? Season 1 took a few weeks, at least

[@Iquey]

I'm enjoying listening to this again and I just wanna share that whenever I imagine the scene where Jon watches the exterminator's pleading hand get covered by ants, and Jon doesn't do anything to help him, the shape of an ant covered fist flipping him the bird slowly disappears under the crawling brown mass.

[@itstictac2825]

Alright. First of all, I'm going to go cry about Tim. Didn't deserve that. But at least he got to rest, and he left doing what he wanted most, so... yeah. That foreshadowing about Gertrude's 3 assistants all meeting terrible ends is really coming together, and I don't like it in the slightlest. Also, the reason why he wanted to save all of the "statues" (I mean, aside from human kindness) was probably because he hoped his brother was in there somewhere. That's depressing... Also thinking about Daisy... Basira's going to be devastated. Im happy Elias got some consequence going back at him! I really liked him as... not really a villain, but not an ally neither. He had a goal, and did everything to fullfill it. He is an interesting character, and I think it's not the end of him. But at the same time, I reaaaaally don't like Peter Lukas being now the head of everything. I mean, dude basically sacrificed one of his crewmates back in his statement? John's nightmares are absolutely horrible, and terrifying. Freaking Eye is NOT good, or better than the other. That feeling of powerlessness... just having to watch. So yeah. What an end of the season. I really liked how everything was kind of coming together, but still confusing and definitely not done. The voice acting and sound design were absolutely amazing!

[@patti6937]

And..... Tim didnt care if he lived or died, that makes it a bit easier for me. RIP Tim.

[@mercymorned]

I hope you will get s4 up on youtube ASAP! I'm hard of hearing and youtube's auto captions make it so much easier to follow the podcast. Love everything I've listened to so far.

[@farawaytales4396]

Season four is free to listen on Spotify, you can go there now.

[@mercymorned]

sidhe's keeper Spotify doesn’t have captions. I’ve already listened to s4 with volunteer-made transcripts.

[@dsjsafdkadsjf5551]

@@mercymorned theres a transcript website

[@mosslings]

This show is amazing, I have torn through it in less than a month, and even when I'm not listening, I feel a slight feeling of unease. Thank you for the chills, the laughs and the mystery! I will take a little break before I go searching for season 4, I think ;)

[@Thisone109]

I love that the woman who was like fully fine with death is still like *oh this dream again, oh look I have a friend will this isn't so bad. I'll see you tomorrow for my next nightmare*

[@melissaharris3389]

It's Georgie, his ex, that he was living with. She can't feel fear but can see Jon being forced to watch her.

[@vee802]

This whole episode sounds like a Twilight Zone episode.

[@twigthetroll9279]

There'd been a few statements before this that freaked me out more than most. But this one was the first time I spent pretty much the entire time just gaping with an expression of bone-deep pure absolute horror just frozen on my face, and the reactions I sent to my friends on discord consisted almost entirely of long, bolded, italicized, caps lock keysmashes, punctuated by tons of question marks and exclamation points. And afterward all I could say was: "......Well. ...The Magnus Archives, as they say, is a podcast."

[@sling4425]

Really great final episode. sets up so many delicious plot points that have me screaming at my computer screen.

[@newspaper_stand]

Not the final episode they just stopped uploading it to KZbin You can find season 4 and 5 on most podcast websites, or if you use an iPhone or product alike you can find it on Apple podcasts

[@sling4425]

@@newspaper_stand Oh! Yeah I meant season's finale. I think I wrote this on my second or third relisten.... Yes it is that good. Thank you anyways!

[@MPythonGirl]

"I only have two eyes after all" does that mean you can only see two things at once? Elias...?

[@f_mva]

oh, this is just horrible... i feel so bad for jon.. AND TIM.... thanks mr sims my heart has been thoroughly shattered

[@ishner]

The trick to nightmares is to simply not be afraid and go with the flow. Example of a dream I had which I would *not*describe as a nightmare: Started with kissing a pretty girl, then I had a mouth full of worms. Instead of panicking, I spat out the worms and asked her what the heck? The worms were long, thin, white, and smooth. Many had been cut in half by my teeth and there was a good bit of blood from the holes the worms had already eaten in my mmouth. She apologized and I told her that it was ok. As thousands more worms began emerging from her flesh and a nearby wall, I decided to run away. It is important to note that I rean because I *did not want to* be eaten alive by worms, rather than because I was *afraid of* being eaten by worms. It is a small distinction, but an important one. The difference is that I maintained agency. I had a goal I acted upon, rather than a fear which acted upon me. The chase was much as other dream chases go; suffice to say I was eventually trapped and surrounded. Then I had a choice, though most would not see it. I *could* fight against the tide, stomping and pushing them back untill they overwhelmed me. *OR* I could laugh, admit defeat, and just let them eat me. In choosing the latter, I was still in control. I merged with the swarm and went back to hang out with the pretty girl from earlier. Sure, I was a hideous mass of writhing vermin, but so was she on the inside and it wasn't a problem.

[@weffle2449]

So basically, go into your dream with a “fuck it” mentality, and the dream will accept you into it? Neat!

[@ryanmoran8787]

This sounds suspiciously like Corruption propaganda... Begone, foul avatar

[@ishner]

@@ryanmoran8787 Well, that particular dream was of corruption, but the strategy works on nightmares of any Power.

[@mjamin9124]

i can't believe you made out with jane prentiss

[@abcd00004]

Honestly one of the best episodes ever

[@Drak_buddy]

Hate that Tim is dead love that elias got punched made me cry that Jon’s nightmares are just having to watch people get hurt and beg for his help him being unable to help

[@ChrisCipher]

It's been 11 days since I started this show. Would've been less if it wasn't for me being terrible with horror stuff so that I have stop for the day when it gets dark

[@ChrisCipher]

@@oliviawoloshyn5824 it's been 8 months and I can sleep again, thankfully

[@Companion92]

I'm in pain now TT_TT

[@anactualbird6801]

I'm gonna miss Tim and Daisy. They may have both been cold and hated almost everyone around them but still. And poor Bisera (spelled that wrong) will miss Daisy so much.

[@user-tb3kd5je9j]

Am I the only one who isn't happy Elias was gone? even if he acted horribly he still facilitated Gertrude and her expeditions, I feel like things are going to get very unfortunate in the next few seasons.

[@dendakrmelova1201]

rip tim, forever in our hearts,,, i also hope elias will get punched in the stomach more through out this serie

[@jayschertzberg6680]

I’m so sad Tim’s gone :(

[@evagrev7351]

My theory from this episode and what we know so far: So, Tim and Daisy are dead.. And although Tim is definitely dead (from what they said in their q&a) (you will be missed Tim), I'm not really sure if Daisy is really dead or not. I mean, before the explosion, she was with Breekon and Hope and killed one of them, so maybe she's not dead but on the hunt for the other one or taken by him for revenge? Or she fully emerged as an avatar of the Hunt so she survived the explosion and left before others came to see what happened? Also, though I didn't understand much from Elias' "statement", what I understood is that John dreams about specific statements and, though my memory isn't the best, the one thing some of them have in common are that they were given directly to John, so I assume that John dreams about all the statements that were given to him directly. But in his dreams, the victims never escaped, and since the entities are fears, I'm guessing one other aspect of fear the Eye feeds off from is the repetition of a statement's victim's fear over and over again; like by giving their statements they also gave their fear of the incident to the Eye and the Eye is making it so that they're on loop in an alternate reality (in this case, either John's dreams or a dimension of the Eye that John enters while he's asleep) so that there's always fear for it to feed on, like a garden of fears of some sort (I hope that makes some sort of sense).

[@zaki4418]

People really hate Elias, and there is me, who fell in love with Elias since season 1🧍‍♂️

[@skyclaude8847]

At least Lukas is offering free counseling with the deaths and all

[@patti6937]

And paid vacay.

[@Mark-fc7tu]

It does make sense that getting rid of Elias would just prompt someone else to step in instead, but the paid leave was a nice gesture.

[@cutiepie120048]

Well this was a phenominal listen - onto S4

[@SolarSeaSlug]

How can someone simultaneously get exactly what they deserve and so much better than what they deserve

[@namaschu9418]

I cant say how much about the relationship between Elias and Peter that I read is true, but they are definitely close if he lets him lead while he is gone

[@defme1]

the writing of this episode really reminds me of Rod Serling in the original Twilight Zone, but much more grim, and sadder too. this season was so incredible, i can't wait to start s4

[@hehe_monsters_hot3563]

Season 4 is on Spotify just so ya know.

[@lisawilson1010]

God I loved this season the pain I felt hearing about Tim and Daisy was not ok

[@bluesummer3075]

I cannot hate Elias I am such a clown I cannot do anything but love him goddam bastard

[@zaki4418]

Girl me too, I love him since season 1 😭

[@ShadowyKatz]

Every single statement in a dream, one after another... That has gotta suck.

[@redtobluerose6020]

I dont think Peter would be a bad boss. But I do think he'll still not be a good person.

[@laurahenriksen19]

Listened to this all in about a fortnight hahaha

[@laurahenriksen19]

Sad sad day! No more archives! Whatever shall I do while we wait!!! 😱😱😱

[@yourmoirail7439]

its cool, season fours up on their web site!!

[@laurahenriksen19]

@@yourmoirail7439 ohhhhhh thanking you kindly! 😊😊😊

[@yourmoirail7439]

@@laurahenriksen19 no problem! im just starting that one myself :D

[@laurahenriksen19]

@@yourmoirail7439 will let friends know too. Much appreciated! 😁

[@amphitritemists4595]

Peter said mental health check✌

[@riekab8119]

18:14 Finally! I replayed at least 15 times

[@dragonwitchjay3621]

I don't understand why everyone hated Elias, he just wanted what was best for everyone

[@Sxcheschka]

I hope you're trolling.

[@localgarbagemantristam8542]

Nahhhhhh what did u Just say😂😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😐😐😐😐

[@b50sawantrutaprasad81]

Peter lukas keeps having interactions specifically w Martin - a person who obsessively needs others people to love and look after to live well - i dont have a good feeling abt this

[@teleutenachtigaller2762]

Those three seasons have been truly awesome and marvelous in every way. I think that before I start season four though I'd like to listen to every episode from the beginning to review things I forgot or didn't understand at the first listening. Seeing how fast I've gotten here it probably won't take long. I'm listening to this podcast all the time now and it's definitely become one of my favourite things. I wonder how it will feel to listen to it for a second time. See you later✌️

[@teleutenachtigaller2762]

Update: after listening to 27 episodes of s1, I've decided to listen to s4 now after all. I'm just too curious for what happens next and I've been feeling a bit down today, just thinking about stuff that I've got to do and that I regret doing. I'm definitely going to relisten the rest of the episodes but now I'm starting s4. Bye!

[@GoliathPyroson]

Oh gods no, it’s Lukas

[@unslept_em]

oh no peter lukas is scarier than elias. he's so nice, I'm so worried

[@AnanasVert]

Elias' statements continue to have such an ominously seductive tone to them, i am elated. Glad for that punch, mind you. ❤

[@rorygiambalvo2955]

Are all the dreams Jon can no longer see the ones whose statement givers died, or the ones that Martin burned?

[@Idran]

Neither, they're all the people that gave Jon a direct statement out loud

[@meganbarber1713]

I know this was forever ago, but the ones he can't see anymore are from people who joined the institute (Melanie & Basira) or have been incapacitated (Daisy in the coffin)

[@Idran]

@meganbarber1713 oh wow I'd managed to misread the OP as asking exactly the opposite of what they were asking Thanks for correcting me :D

[@a.frisch4735]

Damn that was goood

[@rebelliousone6182]

There's a season 4 out there too with season 5 coming out in April! Just look up the Rusty Quill website

[@phoenixhoffman460]

Where’s season 4?! I need moooore

[@pianos4095]

So you may have already got this at this point, but it's actually already out!! Its apparently not on KZbin, but it's on the rusty quill website and other places u listen to podcasts! :) Though maybe this was made before season 4 was out at all and bv you already knew about those things, sorry if that's the case!!

[@geeegaewlwlwll9328]

of course peter offers everyone "some space" as soon as he becomes a boss

[@petraivan6778]

[CLICK] ELIAS Statement of Elias Bouchard, regarding the dreams of Jonathan Sims, Head Archivist of the Magnus Institute, currently unresponsive. Details pulled directly from subject. Statement begins. ELIAS (STATEMENT) The Archivist does not know where he is, and in many ways that is correct, for to say that he was anywhere would be an error. He has no conception of his body, lying on that gray hospital bed, perplexing the doctors. Heart unbeating, lungs unmoving, but mind and nerves alive and firing wildly: everything but brain-dead. But he is where he exists so often when his eyes are closed. He wanders the dreams he was given. A cold and well-cleaned room, sterile metal tables that overflow with a gentle trickle of blood. [HUMMING/VIBRATIONS BEGIN IN BACKGROUND] The hearts that beat upon them spasm and spurt without any sort of rhythm, and were they to stand still for but a moment, it might become clear just how wrong they are in their construction. There are no strange figures standing over those tables - no mockeries of earnest learning. But in the center stands a weeping, bearded man in a lab coat. In his thin, vinyl-gloved hands, he holds an apple, that he dearly wishes otherwise. The doctor cannot bring himself to look at the tables, so instead, looks to the Archivist, whose eye watches him, and cannot close. He tries to scream, to curse at the Archivist, pleading to him for peace, for rest. The Archivist watches as the blood creeps along the tiled floor and pools at the doctor’s feet. Desperate, he tries to throw the apple at his observer, but it is too late. The doctor has forgotten how the elbows work, and wrenches it to the side with a sickening crack. He tries again to scream, but he hasn’t got the throat right, and the wheezing, half-choked gurgle that escapes would stir pity in the Archivist, if he had not heard it so many times before. The Archivist waits, expecting to awaken, but there is nowhere for him to awaken to. No avenue of escape from these dreams. He turns to see the familiar screen, the familiar woman beneath it. She looks up at him with an expression of recognition and weary dread. She types and types and types, her fingers a blur, flying across the keyboard, and yet never fast enough to outrun the relentless words that flow like dark water across the screen that stretches off into the sky. It hurts. She is shaking her head, defiant in her well-worn terror, and tries with every corner of her will to force back the rolling tide of words. It hurts. Her fingers are still, her hands raised to her mind, trying to think, trying to comprehend. It hurts. She turns to stare at the Archivist. There is hatred in her eyes, and blame: an aching certainty that she is here because of him. He has brought her here. He watches as she slowly brings the keyboard up to her lips, fighting against it every moment. She bites down, shards of plastic cutting her fingers as the words scroll unfettered across the screen for miles and miles and miles. And she is gone. [BACKGROUND VIBRATIONS ACQUIRE A RUMBLING, INDUSTRIAL QUALITY] The Archivist wanders. He is searching, though for what he does not know. He passes those places he can no longer watch - the silent wards of peeling skin, the empty warehouse of thick darkness and frightened children, the rusted train car that smells of eager, infectious hate. All through it, the shadow is above him; the shape that gazes down upon him, bloodshot and unblinking. The rain is still there, though it is empty. The long and desolate road, slick with the downpour; a police car’s lights flashing over the unmoving van. The doors are open, and the too-familiar statues stand either side of the well-worn wooden box. He looks around, his eyes scanning this forever road and the clouds of iron gray, looking for her, but she is not there. The Archivist expects - he hopes - to find the violence in her looking back at him, hungry for pursuit and murder. But the emptiness of the place is complete - the only sounds, the gentle singing of the box, and the pounding, bitter rain. He knows the writing on the coffin has changed, though it is still carved deep into the splintered wood: I Am For You. He knows it is not addressed to him, but he reaches down and pulls the chains off all the same. It opens, and he walks slowly down the steps into the earth. But even as it closes above him, the great shadow still sees him. There is nowhere in this universe that it would not blot out the sky. The rough-hewn tunnels go down, down beyond anything but sodden earth and despair, until the Archivist arrives at the tunnels. Here he sees the train, twisted and pressed in on all sides, nothing but shrieking metal and cracked glass. He climbs inside, and takes his seat, mouth tasting of mud and soil, his eyes moving through the dust and grit unblinking. The passenger is there, though she is, as always, stationary. Dry dirt trickles between her teeth as she smiles mirthlessly, seeing the Archivist has returned. She is relaxed, suspended from a dozen broken handrails and shattered, jagged seats. They cut her flesh, but she does not bleed. There is no pain in her eyes. There is nothing except the certainty of her fate. The train begins to move, the wheels screaming with the awful weight of it, every part buckling and pressing in, but the Archivist is not afraid. His only fear is that even here, at the center of the world, barreling towards a lightless, infinite tomb, still, he will be watched. Still, he will watch. The expression on the passenger’s face does not change, even as the contorting metal crushes her skull like an egg, as she vanishes from view. He catches a glimpse of an advert above his seat: “Dig.” There is a door in front of him. A yellow door. He knows the dream it used to lead to; he knows it well. But that’s not where it leads anymore. He does not know what is behind it anymore, and he is deathly afraid of finding out. [HIGHER-PITCHED, TINNITIS-LIKE OSCILLATING SOUND ADDED TO BACKGROUND VIBRATIONS] The Archivist turns away. Behind him are the ants. They move like a terrible rolling wave along the hard-packed ground, and he can see every twitching antenna, every clenching mandible. Somewhere, underneath that twitching, burrowing mass, is the exterminator. He is screaming. The Archivist knows he is screaming, can see him screaming, although the sound is lost under the noise of those hundred million ants, that crawl and scurry over everything. For a second, a hand breaches the shifting mound, desperately stretched towards the Archivist in supplication, pleading for help. The Archivist watches, as it disappears painfully back into that sea of scrabbling life. Then all at once, the ants are gone, fled in a moment away from the still-shuddering form of the exterminator, and a familiar terror finally pushes its way into the Archivist’s heart. Before him rises an incinerator door, the glowing light of the flames curling around the cracks. With a wailing shriek, the door opens, and the burning silhouette that stands within is ingrained upon the Archivist’s racing mind. They smoke and sizzle, but still the worms crawl through her charred and pockmarked flesh, her now-singed red dress shifting with the movement beneath it. [OSCILLATION GROWS LOUDER] The exterminator looks to her, then to the Archivist, and it is not certain which he fears more. The Archivist, for his part, is hopelessly willing the dream to stop. But as she takes one scorched step after another, it is clear that he has no power to make it. When faced with her, he even longs for the terrible dream of the melted woman, who would see everything desolated without rhyme or reason. But she was beyond his reach the moment she knew he was there, so the Archivist can only stand and stare, as the hive goes about its infested, long-dead work. The dark building is newer, but he knows it well; knows the two lost souls who creep through it with an alert hunger on their faces. He recognizes that look from the other hunter, whose dreams he has watched for so long. They stalk the darkness itself, and hope to catch and kill it before it can do the same to them. They see him watching, but they cannot catch his scent.

[@petraivan6778]

At last, he is in the moonlit graveyard - the oldest of the dreams. It is peaceful, cool and damp, as the rolling, boggy fields stretch out in all directions. He hears her calling pathetically from the bottom of the graves, ut by now he knows there is nothing he can do but stare. She begs to be released, to dream of this place no more, but there is nothing he can do. So he watches her, trying in his single-minded focus to ignore the attention of that impossible thing that covers the sky, and fixes its gaze on him with such force it would choke him - were he breathing. Another dissection room, another figure standing in its centre - but this one is calm. She simply looks at him sadly, a pity in her face that burns him worse than any flame. More than anything, the Archivist wants to look away, to turn his eye from her gentle sadness, from the disappointment in what she sees in him. But he cannot, so he watches her, until she simply fades away. [GROWING METALLIC, ECHOING SOUND, FADING IN AND OUT] And at last, the Archivist looks up. At last, he looks into the eye that sees all, and knows all, and clutches at the secret terrors of your heart. The Ceaseless Watcher of all that is, and all that was; the voracious, infinite hunger the tears at his soul, invoking him to discover, to observe, to experience all, and everything, and forever. It stares into him, and it stares out of him, and he is falling into the devouring eternity of its pupil. He wants to cry out in horror, but he cannot. He. Is. Whole. And still he does not wake. Wandering his slim collection of gifted nightmares, passing the grey and lifeless remains of severed dreams he can no longer watch, he waits - but not for long - before they all begin again. ELIAS You’re doing well, John. I only hope you can continue your growth without my guidance. [KNOCK ON DOOR] [ELIAS SIGHS] [sullenly] Come in. [DOOR OPENS] Hello, Inspector. Martin. I’m, uh, sorry to hear about Tim - MARTIN Don’t. ELIAS And Daisy, I suppose - MARTIN Don’t. You. Dare. ELIAS I suppose it’s some consolation Basira made it out. And John. More or less. [MARTIN INHALES ANGRILY] POLICE OFFICER [cutting Martin off] Is this him? MARTIN - uh - yes. POLICE OFFICER Right. Elias Bouchard, you’re under arrest. ELIAS [grumpy] On what crime? POLICE OFFICER Take your pick. Never had a tape recording of a murder before; something of a novelty. And that’s not the half of it - plenty of stuff in those files could easily get you a nasty end, if you weren’t careful. ELIAS [hmph] No Melanie? [EXASPERATED SIGH OVER HIM IN THE BACKGROUND] I would have thought she would have wanted to gloat. MARTIN No. I - I, I - ELIAS You didn’t tell her. [hm] Worried she might create too much of a scene? I understand. I just hope she… doesn’t hold it against you. MARTIN That’s - that’s not - POLICE OFFICER [interrupting] Don’t worry, Mr. Blackwood. We will take it from here. ELIAS I’m sure you will. However, before we proceed, I have a flash drive in my shirt pocket - [MORE EXASPERATED NOISES IN BACKGROUND] - please ensure it gets the Chief Inspector Henderson. It contains various information I think she - and the Metropolitan Police - would be keen not to have released to the public. POLICE OFFICER Yes, I was briefed that would probably be the case. Can’t let you go, though - not with all the evidence kindly provided by your colleagues. ELIAS I quite understand. I would just hate for my case to be too… truncated - POLICE OFFICER [interrupting] Not my place to say, Mr. Bouchard. I’m just here to get you behind bars. You and the chief can discuss the rest. MARTIN It’s better than you deserve. ELIAS Perhaps so, but I’m glad you were sensible about it. I was concerned you might have bought into Melanie’s… fixation. POLICE OFFICER Gave you to us all but wrapped up in a bow. ELIAS I must admit I’m impressed, Martin. [FURTHER EXASPERATED BACKGROUND NOISES AS ELIAS SPEAKS] I knew you were all planning something, of course, but I didn’t believe you specifically would have the, uh - capacity for boldness that you displayed. [hm] It took me quite by surprise. MARTIN You didn’t just see it in me? ELIAS Honestly, I didn’t look. For all my power, I will admit I am not immune to making the occasional lazy assumption. I presumed that I knew you thoroughly, but by the time you demonstrated otherwise - well. There was simply too much to keep watching over. I only have two eyes, after all. POLICE OFFICER Right, are you all done now? ELIAS I believe so. I think we should be fine - provided you make sure the data reaches the Chief Inspector. POLICE OFFICER I’m sure she’ll be happy to pick you out a cell personally. ELIAS So long as it isn’t the morgue, I’m sure I’ll be perfectly comfortable.

[@petraivan6778]

MARTIN Just be, be careful with him, all right, he can see things - put thoughts and - stuff into your head - POLICE OFFICER Like I said: I’ve been briefed. And the situation is being monitored - ELIAS Quite unnecessary, I assure you. MARTIN Just - please be careful, he’s really dangerous. POLICE OFFICER By all means, Mr. Bouchard, why don’t you have a look in my head, and see exactly what will happen to you when you mess with me? ELIAS There will be no need for that, Inspector, [small forced laugh] I’m sure we’ll get along famously. POLICE OFFICER Good. ELIAS Best of luck, Martin. Let the others know I shall be thinking of them. POLICE OFFICER Come on, now. [SOUND OF OFFICER CUFFING ELIAS] ELIAS [ow] Are those really necessary? [SOUND OF ELIAS BEING APPARENTLY PUNCHED IN THE STOMACH] ELIAS [gag, wheeze] POLICE OFFICER Not really, no. ELIAS [strained] I see. POLICE OFFICER Let’s go. ELIAS [wheeze] Goodbye, Martin. [wheeze] Be seeing you. [FOOTSTEPS; DOOR CLOSES.] [MARTIN SIGHS.] [HIGH-PITCHED, SQUEALING STATIC.] PETER Must be a relief. MARTIN - Uh - PETER Honestly, I thought there’d be more of a scene - [MARTIN EXHALES LOUDLY] - but he always surprises me. MARTIN [freaking out] What - what are you doing here, Mr. Lukas?! PETER Please - call me Peter. MARTIN No - no, I think I’m okay! PETER As you like. [patronizingly] Look, don’t let Elias get to you - [MARTIN EXHALES LOUDLY] - you did very well! Really! I honestly think you managed to surprise him - even if he’d sooner die than admit it. MARTIN I’m sorry, I’m - I’m still not sure exactly what this is. PETER Oh, right, of course. [GROWING NON-LUKAS-STATIC-TYPE BACKGROUND VIBRATIONS] Well: you’ve successfully managed to remove Elias as the head of the Magnus Institute. So…? MARTIN Oh - oh, god, what does that do?! PETER Oh! No, nonono, no - not in any metaphysical sense, no. He’s still very much the - how did he insist on phrasing it? - ah, yes the “beating heart” of the Institute. But practically speaking, he can hardly fulfill his more mundane managerial duties from a jail cell. MARTIN So, he knew this was going to happen? PETER Not exactly? He anticipated that you would likely find some way to remove him, so he made alternative arrangements. MARTIN Which would be you. PETER Exactly! To be honest with you, Martin, I didn’t expect to be taking over the place so soon, or in quite such a state of disarray. But I’ll do my best to keep the place afloat. MARTIN [sigh] …right. PETER Oh, what’s that look for? You won! I am sorry if it doesn’t look quite like you hoped, but - here we are! MARTIN I suppose so. So what now? PETER Well, if you could send Melanie and Basira up to see me, I’d like to introduce myself. After that, I’ll put through a couple of weeks of paid leave for you all - I think giving everyone some space to try and deal with the loss of Tim and Daisy might do everyone some good. [MARTIN SIGHS] Oh, and if you want to talk to a counselor, the Institute will of course cover any cost. MARTIN Uh - thanks? PETER Don’t mention it. I know how it can be with a new boss. I’d like to help you ease into it. MARTIN Is, is that - …can I… go? PETER Of course! Oh, and Elias said you’d probably be keeping a close eye on the Archivist’s condition, so I’d be keen to hear any developments. MARTIN … …suuuuuure. PETER Marvellous. And don’t look so down! I know, change can be scary, but eventually it happens just the same. I think we’re going to great things, Martin. Great. Things. [CLICK]

[@roundishwhale]

Loving this series even more I did during the first episodes, something I did not expect^^ Keep it up!

[@h444teligament]

peter you're doing amazing

[@birbelle]

Wow. Those are some,,,, trippy dreams you got there Jon,,,,,

[@skipg5183]

This is my go to commuting podcast

[@BlackReshiram]

DaISY AND TIM ARE DEAD???? BRB CRYING AT LEAST MY FAVORITE CHARACTER BASIRA MADE IT OUT, ALONGSIDE JON,,,

[@Piper_____]

“I honestly didn’t look” Oh. Ouch.

[@tomisabum]

DIG.

[@fauxclaws]

oh man bashira lost daisy, I can't believe it : ( On another note, I like peter a lot more then elias so far. he seems a lot less evil. Thats gonna be real interesting.

[@monalane8740]

You're literally the best. Thank you so much

[@nateds7326]

On the one hand that cop was completely out of line brutalizing Elias. Than again he brutalized Elias, so I say police brutality is the moral outcome here.

[@jackcorp8478]

To be fair he knew everything all the others knew about Elias, and I think with that knowledge pretty much anyone in that situation regardless of occupation would punch Elias

[@midnights2631]

Tim is kayaking, alright? :,) Ah. Delicious. Elias getting punched is the best, especially after making Martin cry.

[@Ghostito-cs2rr]

Rip tim, im sobbing on the floor rn

[@qwoopon367]

I really really thought he would make it out of there and he and Jon would make up, but I guess that can't happen now :(