The Male Vote: The Dems' “Fatal Miscalculation” and What Trump Got Right | Amanpour and Company

[@MathiasWarwick]

Demonize men for a decade and wonder why they left the party 🤔 bring in the experts

[@leonardgebbia2615]

A decade? Going on 3 to 4

[@matthewclark1674]

This may be the first time a discussion on men's issues hasn't been held by an all women panel.

[@omahhumvajragurupadmasiddhihum]

They need to have three PhDs at least to be able to figure out this dilemma.

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

@@leonardgebbia2615 It used to just be in the colleges. Uneducated women still tend to be level headed. What has changed is NPR and the constant misandry coming out of Hollywood.

[@chamboyette853]

@@leonardgebbia2615 Mostly around a decade.

[@NoActionRequired]

“We hate you, you’re toxic and violent”….a few minutes later… “hey, you’re our allies right?”

[@tarahoffman7785]

That is silly. We are verrrry well aware that the toxic and violent men in the country are not our allies, never were and never will be and most importantly don't WANT to be our allies. That is why they voted for Trump.

[@petervizzini4006]

​@@tarahoffman7785They voted for him because he proved his loyalty to the people

[@ZiliaVing]

No one said that though. That's Trump brainwashing you to think.

[@tiwo89]

Allies? Leftist women have gone bunkers since the election... They're admonishing women to leave men, leave your marriages and stay single, blah blah blah.

[@Sarcasmarkus]

Pfft, women, am i right? 🤷‍♂️🤣

[@JamesWeir-j7i]

Democrats tactics to get mens vote were a joke. "Vote Kamala or your a misogynist" or "Vote Kamala so your girlfriend can get an abortion". Nothing to help men.

[@ChineseAmerican50]

You are making yourself as low cheap human by voting a garbage type. That represents you. Not the words other people saying

[@TheCalicohorse]

What about the home buying assistance and other economic policies, like job creation, non university skilled-high-paying-union job creation? All policies that help women help men too; it's not an either/or scenario, and yes, this includes abortion. You don't think men benefit from safe and reliable health care for women?

[@drek9k2]

It was one of several things I worried about but the biggest one being Kamala very very stupidly tried aligning herself and her image, or rather did nothing to correct, the association with the whiny entitled white bourgeois radical feminists who literally everyone can't stand, along with these white saviour proglibs. Muslims do not want to support you. Black people don't want to support you. Spanish people don't want to support you. These are more religious, traditional, family oriented groups of people, and white liberal atheist American women flatly are not, they are way more narcissistic, arrogant, entitled, materialistic, atheistic, and money loving, and family hating. The Dems very VERY stupidly took all their other base groups for granted, having, legitimately, no gdamn idea whatsoever to what degree you're all HATED by the rest of the country including your own big tent like all yall are that fing stupid for real? Do you REALLY think that everyone is ok with mastectomies and chest binders being taught to their daughters in school? *Really?* It was against the gender cult and radical feminism. This includes leftists, they also hate the xe/xir shit. Literally, no one else wants you and your deranged, psychotic diatribe against reality, and I've tried to have spoken to these people because the fact is they literally simply do not talk to anyone else outside their own bougie white liberal circles, they are as highly insulated as any racist Republican. Difference being, Republicans don't need to rely entirely on a bunch of fat racist terrorists. Also no one ever actually said "vote kamala or you're a misogynist" it was however implicit a lot of yall are voting against her because you're racists. The literal biggest plan Trump has pushed from day one is deportations. And the reason for this is the same, it's because these tubby broke white American males simply can not compete against Rico Sauve. At all. It's why those manpill idiots and the UTR woke right/alt tards all pushed "muh cvck p0rn" nonstop, as a codeword for "miceganation" because the simple fact is, any woman worth a shit, is going to choose a tall buff masculine black guy, or a masculine hard working Spanish guy, or Abdul Aziz or whomever, over you. Which is the same reason for why a higher percentage of white women voted for Trump, because they directly benefit from the power structure, and began waking up to the fact none of us wants them anymore. Onyfans, tinder, hookup culture, narcissism, atheism, entitlement, hate for men, toxicity in the workplace, metoo, the nonstop tiktard shit, the nonstop filming dudes without their permission or knowledge, the nonstop lying and manipulation, like having OF and tinder thrown on top of allllll the other bullshit from these women during and after the pandemic just utterly totalled them. Noone wants to marry Karen minus 8 years. We sure as shit won't marry these girls when we have any shot at all with a hot Columbian woman who dreams of having a family someday. Like, that's it. It's that freaking simple. Be supportive of us, be kind, have good character, want to raise a family, we aren't asking for much, in fact men asked for less and less and began even tolerating rampant promiscuity and massive obesity and somehow, these absolute fuckbirds got to the point a bunch of primarily white American middleclass fat women are trying to paint themselves as the biggest victims since Jim Crow because they can't even fit down an airline aisle anymore. "Fat activism" are you fucking for real?? Imagine being that arrogant and entitled, you're trying to claim "this is just like racism!" because no tall hot millionaire takes you seriously for marriage. They are narcissists who can never truly be happy, so we collectively dropped them. I actually guarantee most of the rest of these unmarried women are going to slowly become more and more openly racist as the reality hits them harder, even if Trump deports ten million Marias, we still won't fuck you or marry you. Well, some sleazy or desperate or creepy or sociopathic men may, but we ain't marrying you. No, don't care if you're a Conservative or alleged Conservative, the white women worth marrying are deeply stubborn and introverted spiritual women who themselves don't even like Trump, because they're character focused, they're family and kids focused. And a lot of these fake ass women like, not Brie, what's her name, Rae, something, this dirty blond girl pretending to be a "man advocate" has the identical energy to all the rest, mix of arrogance, entitlement, mixed with covert hostility and money grubbing materialism. Hell, I'd rather date a liberal woman at that point since at least they're kinder. You're forgetting the huge role race played, racial resentment, and mate guarding. This was, for many people who switched votes, a child protective vote, a vote against the radfems and the gender identity cult, but for a fuckload of white people it was those that can not compete against immigrants sexually. Because for these tubby buttertiddy orbiter types, the fact is, you guys can't compete so you can't get together with a pretty Salvadoran girl anyway, which is why you don't give a shit they get deported either, as to you, a bunch of immigrants only represents further strain and competition, as opposed to well someone with my mindset who only sees further social opportunity. Also people are fucking dumb as bricks and kept blaming Biden for what was literally Donald Trump's fuckup, Trump utterly trashed my economy, he gave us massive national deficit spending, a worse debt time bomb, spiralling inflation, and a crashed stock market. No I don't give a fuck what it looked like after his first year, that was the Obama recovery, it's toward the end of a politician's first term you really start seeing the broader effects. It's why Bush the 2nd lost, it was not just Iraq, he gave us a recession, because Republicans are shit ass for the economy and have been for many decades. Every time a (R) gets power, we simply wind up having a recession of some sort where more of the wealth is funnelled upward to their billionaire and trillionaire friends, like Musk or whoever.

[@aw-2130]

Or "vote for Kamala and you'll get pussy"

[@aw-2130]

Don't forget "vote Kamala and you'll get pussy"

[@MrSurguy-fb2hy]

According to the Democratic Party I’m “Too male, too pale, and too stale”. You don’t want my vote.

[@deathgrinderb3284]

exactly. im a straight white male. and a Christian. thats 4 strikes im out. the left hates Jesus and God.

[@theroldan8675]

They dont count on men vote cos they were planing sent you to ww3.... u were lucky lol

[@angelinahunter182]

I'm 78 and I benefitted greatly from Women's Lib. But for well more than a decade I've been waiting to hear about the good and decent MEN in this country especially because I've been privileged to have known men life this -- STERLING HUMAN BEINGS whom I cared about and admired greatly. I was horrified that my party did not choose to run against rapist Trump A REAL MAN -- an intelligent and moral human being (they do exist) because an articulate and intelligent WHITE MALE candidate would have won over clown Trump in a landslide. "Someday" we will have a female President in this country BUT THAT IS NOT THE URGENT NEED. We need to be concerned about our men: Unemployed Blue Collar Workers, Returning VETS (who have seen carnage and need to be rehabilitated to prosper in peace time), young boys without father figures AND without male teachers -- we need to honor our men. And old as I am, I hope I live to see this cultural change.

[@Rawstock92]

The Democrats need a vision for straight men beyond shame, beyond how they can serve everyone but their own groups.

[@Melinamiu007]

advocating for women doesn’t equal “shaming” men. so damn self centered to think that.

[@tarahoffman7785]

the only straight men who get shamed by Dems are those who truly deserve it. AKA - the racist, homophobic and misoginstic ones - other wise knows as MAGA men.

[@petervizzini4006]

​advocating for tran does not help women

[@petervizzini4006]

​@@tarahoffman7785The dem helped no one

[@Sarcasmarkus]

​@@Melinamiu007um... maybe start watching other media outlets and try getting out of your echo chamber. Yes there's plenty of misogynists in the world but misandry is very much a real thing as well.

[@SlowPeace25]

"Why didn't the people we called toxic vote for us?"

[@tarahoffman7785]

why do men who condome 🍇 get upset at being caled toxic?

[@jackhughes9896]

​@@tarahoffman7785They're not the same men who are called that?

[@SlowPeace25]

​@@tarahoffman7785why do I struggle to find men who "condone 🍇"?

[@edwingarcia3521]

@@tarahoffman7785 Man-hater cat lady.

[@alexmintz7786]

Exactly!

[@lucianomezzetta4332]

You CAN NOT scold, mock, mortify, or humiliate a person just because of their race and/or gender and expect them to support you. They will tell you to get lost.

[@Indigolden]

If this is true, how do explain all the women voting for the obviously misogynistic Trump/ Vance/ MAGA?

[@averyrowan33]

So…presumably you’re seeing this. Doesn’t mean everybody is.

[@personbelowmeisadumbass8891]

​@@IndigoldenTrump is the farthest thing from a misogynist,He is a rich man who's slept with more women than most men,If you sleep with lots of women,You develop a sense of appreciation and protectiveness for them regardless of what they think of you,I'm 81,Trump is a typical archtype of a man who's pro border security which saves women from being assaulted by illegals,He's anti trans which is a mockery of women and the female form and reduces women to their appearance,He'll keep young girls away from young men pretending to be girls in their bathrooms,Sports,He is very pro women

[@chomosuke0720]

​@@Indigolden Maybe it wasn't as "obvious" as you make it out to be? He literally just appointed the first woman chief of staff ever - Dem or Republican.

[@jonnyfendi2003]

@@Indigolden misogynistic Vance??? A man married to an Indian woman with biracial children who believes in the nuclear family.....but by all means white woman keep piling it on....

[@Kumite_Champ]

The entire culture for the last 10 years has been hammered with a feminist message that men eventually got fed up with. It’s ruined the entertainment industry and made everybody on edge about getting cancelled. My opinion

[@omahhumvajragurupadmasiddhihum]

Agreed. And I'm a woman. And I care about all the men in my life, and I don't want feminism to get so extreme that a women will always have power over men and be allowed to abuse that power. It's time to bring some balance into this.

[@AntonioPeralesdelHierro]

BS.

[@AntonioPeralesdelHierro]

If the shoe fits wear it. If not ignore it. There is no "war on males."

[@fccpfccp8189]

We’ll said! 100% agree. 👏👏👏

[@chamboyette853]

Cant' agree with you more. It is actually quite painful for me to watch almost anything made after 2015 because that agenda is so prevalent.

[@pinktfatrabbit]

Who would have thought that openly hating men would drive them away.

[@coreyanders5527]

Sadly low income, uneducated men feel that caring about other people's rights portends hating them. Conservative men are very insecure in their masculinity and view female equality and female dominance as the same thing. The Christian bible makes it very, VERY clear that men are superior to women and that women should be subservient to men at all times. As women are graduating college at much higher rates than conservative men and earning more money than conservative men, these men see that their authority is being stripped away. They blame DEI, liberals, those with a college or above degree, etc. for their inferiority complex and toxic insecurity. It is no different than short men hating and resenting tall men for getting all the female attention.

[@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559]

Not all men, just the majority who don't call themselves 'women'. The ones who DO call themselves women enjoy a special status among Loony Lefties - they prioritise them over everyone, including actual women.

[@Desmond-Dark]

Lol ikr

[@zeldazap]

The right openly hates women and they gained ground among white women 🤷‍♀️

[@tfustudios]

The level of toxic resentment I'm hearing towards anyone male right now, if off of the charts!

[@seanlee7563]

He's right in that "politics is much more about going to where voters are, rather than telling voters they are in the wrong place".

[@laurafay2796]

Unfortunately many people are in a place of ignorance and hate, and the conservatives had no trouble fanning those flames.

[@dlynn101]

I wish you folks would stop pretending MAGA isn't about deception and lies. Peopkle were tricked. Bamboozled. Hoodwinked. Brainwashed. You JUST watched it unfold. why the sudden amnesia and bs????

[@evanperilstein5308]

Which is sad because it shows how self-absorbed and navel-gazing most Americans are. When I vote for president, I vote for the candidate I think will be best for the country as a whole, not who I think will be best for me as an individual. Americans need to start being less individual oriented and more community oriented. We need to stop being so focused on our self-interests that we're willing to throw millions of other people under the bus just to get what we want. You saw this problem with our culture during the pandemic, when a lot of Americans were unwilling to sacrifice and follow simple rules, whereas people in the Nordic countries and East Asian countries like Japan, South Korea and Taiwan did what was best for their communities rather than what was best for themselves.

[@JohnDoe-230]

​@@evanperilstein5308 that is a big ask people are more individual now than ever. And that is saying something.

[@navytanutrof1823]

This is the “woke” mentality. They make movies people don’t want to see but blame the public for not liking their products. They amplify the need of 1 percent of the population, pushing their concern into our daughter’s sport but if you disagree it’s not their fault it’s the 99 percent fault. SMH.

[@Victor.A.]

3 months of campaigning can't makeup for 4 years of sidelining & denigrating men

[@celinegrenier6508]

Yeah, all those Dems deigrating Biden, right???

[@toby2581]

It's been a lot more than four years.

[@2delegy]

@@toby2581 yeah I think it started as a niche in the mid 2000s on places like myspace, tumblr etc then it grew and after 2012 when the iphone was out full scale and social media was popping up it just started to gradually balloon and balloon. Women are more agreeable so a lot of them just took radical feminist presuppositions as truisms like the 70 cents to the dollar narrative etc. Yes it was 70 cents to the dollar in aggregate but it is hard skewed by men at the top and doesn't take into account that men will do hard labor, move for positions, work more hours, etc. Men are overrepresented at the bottom too 3/4 homeless are men they also kill themselves 5x more than women and men 18-30 make less than women 18-30 now. I don't think that women doing better is a bad thing but a lot of it as at the cost of men which I disagree with and so do mothers of the 7 million working age NEETs in the US. Democrats have to completely revise their messaging if they want to compete. Young women will not like it but they have to do it if they want to compete with the donald trump party

[@toby2581]

@@2delegy It's been a thing since AT LEAST the mid 1980s when every television show father was invariably portrayed as a childish buffoon.

[@2delegy]

@@toby2581 I mean this new wave of it though, not the previous waves of feminism.

[@AthenaSaints]

"You are sexist, you are misogynistic, we can live without you........please vote for me!!!"

[@sparkleevenmore9638]

Awwww did the men get all upset?

[@tanyafrida7380]

​@@sparkleevenmore9638Evidently 😂

[@nagrom1003]

@@sparkleevenmore9638haha wow you’ve got to be kidding me, did you even listen to the video you’re commenting on?

[@matthewclark1674]

@@sparkleevenmore9638 Go 4B already.

[@sike2399]

@@sparkleevenmore9638 "Awwww do men vote? Tee hee!"

[@dewaynecarlton432]

As a white collar male, I’m very concerned about women only seeking to pursue various positions of power, but not wanting to have nothing to do with the “dirty jobs” that keep America going. While at the same time look down on men that chose blue collar work.

[@ramboram03]

Yes, women vote with emotions, men vote on policy

[@Indigolden]

@@ramboram03 OMG. The far-right is essentially a collective white boy tantrum. Men definitely vote according to their emotions, not logic. The comments on this video prove it! Many could be summed up as, “I voted as I did because the other side hurt my FEELINGS! Waaaaah!”

[@Indigolden]

@@dewaynecarlton432 yes! Let’s open up the trades and all jobs to women! I agree with your feminists sentiments.

[@angelinahunter182]

@@ramboram03 I wish we Democrats had chosen a qualified WHITE MALE to run against felon/rapist Trump because if we had done that we would have won in a landslide against this would-be dictator. Prior to the election, I read every book I could get my hands on regarding what the issues were/are, books written by qualified MEN. I don't vote on emotions -- I vote on evidence of past conduct and policy issues as forecasted by candidates. Not all women are "emotional" voters and many are well informed like I took the time to be. Trump will weaken this country through his unqualified candidates and under his "regime" I believe we will suffer another 9/11 attack from a foreign enemy because there will no longer be informed qualified staff to protect us from that. I voted against this!

[@jasminecrandall2262]

The Democratic message is condescending and elitist. If you don’t believe exactly as we do, we’ll insult you and cancel you. People are sick of it.

[@JW-iz6mv]

Exactly ..................

[@user-yb7xb4ck7x]

Don’t worry they’ll assign you to a demographic segment based on your identity and race and decide you’re not a critical constituency in a battleground state

[@msvulcanspock]

LMAO that is what Trump and right wing media say! So sure based on Trump and right wing manosphere that is all you need to know. Don't leave your bubble and actually talk to someone.

[@penguintaco9038]

Yep

[@Katja-Kitty]

So voting on feelings, not on facts? Got it.

[@dkeldeborable1413]

How many times did you cry “ toxic masculinity”. How many times did I hear women and men of color cut down white men.

[@teresamagnusson]

Well, nobody likes you.

[@chad9971]

As a young black man living in California, it doesn't get Bluer than that. I've been a member of the Democratic party until this year, when I switched to "Independent." I'm not going to lie; the identity politics and political correctness from certain circles of the party are EXHAUSTING. Now I'm not going to switch Republican because they have members who are Neo-nazis or Proud Boys, but as a working-class, straight black man, I definitely feel like the Democratic party has left us behind and taken our voice/votes for granted.

[@cyberft]

Your grandparents made common cause with the party of segregationist and klan members when it was to their political advantage to do so.

[@kimhunter8395]

Single white woman here - they didn't listen to me either. No way to contact the party or the candidates at all. I even volunteered on the Harris campaign. Still couldn't even get a message to her about the needs of smaller and independent family farms - needs that could easily be met by the. USDA that would make our farms more profitable. Needs as simple as more veterinarians and federal meat inspectors at small locker plants so we can sell our poultry over state lines. We all need mire access to communicate with the leaders of this country.

[@lanceevans1689]

Hey Chad, you sound intelligent and thoughtful. So if I can ask you: I see catch-phrases in your post, ID politics, correctness, etc. But I'd truly love to hear SPECIFIC things that Kamala said that chased you away. I'm working class straight white guy. And I didn't hear anything pitched specifically for me. But I didn't take that to mean they left me behind. I know the Dems have always been better for working class of any color, since the 1930s. I'm also sick of far left wokeness. But it's still better than far right militia.

[@edmcgeman5084]

Your concerns are valid, but the reality of the political dynamics that comes to a choice between the lesser of the two evils is what matters ultimately.

[@cyberft]

@@lanceevans1689 what makes your think the dems are better for the working class? The data says something completely different.

[@kagame6524]

Society doesn’t care for young men, nor do republicans. At least republicans don’t berate them constantly. Glad this issue is being noticed despite the outcome of the election

[@ZiliaVing]

What is it about young men's hard lives that everyone is forgetting and not caring about? Genuine question. What are you referring to that needs to change?

[@paulvalentine4157]

​@@ZiliaVing Nothing legal will change that, it is biological. Most women want to reproduce the same set of men because they want their children to share the top men's attributes. When 80% of the women want 20% of the men, that leaves 80% of the men only visible to the bottom 20% of the women. Society will inevitably allow the top 20% of men to get an inordinate amount of the resources. This is why we send men to war, have them collect garbage, dig in mines, drill for oil, etc. This is why when you ask women would you rather clean septic tanks for 100K a year or work for free in an NGO, they choose NGOs, where most men would work at 100K a year doing almost anything. Most men, biologically, are expendable - something we are both subconsciously and consciously aware of. Only when highly repressive religious structures, either implemented by authority or through social norms, are placed on women will most men even have a shot at reproducing, thus securing their value to society. Societies based on democratic laws and subjective ethics will always undervalue men because reproduction undervalues most men. Reproductive fitness is the governing dynamic of evolved beings. You cannot mask that biology if your societal structures are based on human desire.

[@stephenlee5144]

@@ZiliaVing There are way more educated women than men. Since educated women would rather die than go out with uneducated men, it leaves about 20% of men without mates. Educated women can go up the age brackets, not men. That's one serious problem discussed by NYU Professor Scott Galloway. Another problem is that innovation drives American GDP. The salaries in the innovation industry are high but you need at minimum an undergrad diploma. High paying jobs in the industrial sector are rare and the social stigma even worst. Harris did not address one time such economical and educational discripencies. In fact, she only said that she will support "good schools", which means either expensive private schools or public schools in great neighborhoods, where the differences in educational achievements are not as evident. That's about as bad as it gets.

[@ed-te1fp]

The Democrats were deluded by their own progressive propaganda, effectively saying that men should be more like women. If they keep pushing DEI like this, they'll be wiped out in 4 years.

[@orangedaisies]

​@@stephenlee5144so the young male problem is that they can't find dates? Do they think voting conversative will change that? That we'll suddenly or even over time transition into a society where they'll be assigned a mate? Is that what young males want?

[@leonpowell1044]

They should have got the bears to vote for them😂 The number of times the Democratic liberals said they Don't need a man. Why are they complaining that the people they don't want didn't vote for them..

[@MC_heart4]

Young male opinions have stayed pretty stagnant for the last 20 years. Women have gone +20 to the left during that time. It is young women who have been radicalized, not men.

[@talisa222]

Considering young male opinions 20 years ago in a lot of spheres was that “sexual harassment is just for lols, why so srs,” I’m not sure what you’re saying paints an especially good picture of young men either.

[@MC_heart4]

@@talisa222 We get it, your interactions with men is through vogue articles and movies. We should all be like women, who increasingly go to therapy and are on record anti-depressants, right? please, never change. More and more men will just go away from your side

[@MC_heart4]

@@talisa222 You believed duke lacrosse happened, right?

[@jaz093]

​@@talisa222flirting is not harassment. The issue is some people will be offended if someone makes a move.

[@terryr7622]

@@MC_heart4It proved to be a false story. Yet I don’t recall many liberals saying anything about that

[@rwtwb]

He's certainly right in terms of the lack of messaging to men, but it's not an oversight. They actively hate men. You're not going to put any effort into messaging to people you hate.

[@WillieFungo]

Thier only message is "cry more" "do more to help women"

[@Scribble4178]

I am a woman and I love my husband, son, son-in-law, father, brothers, and male friends. Don’t these men-haters have men in their lives? Do they hate their fathers and sons? A stupid stance they take.

[@Eddie_King_Jr]

I spent a lot of time on Threads this past week, just watching what females are saying. Feminists are leaving their families, disowning sons, cutting off parents...Democrat feminists are anti-family.

[@AbhinavPaulPOLY2563]

They do have but hearing men was cool so they just went on with the bandwagon

[@teresamagnusson]

I've got a son, and I still don't like bad male behavior. I've got a brain and I know how to use it.

[@Scribble4178]

@ The men in my life are not bad actors. A blanket condemnation of men is destructive and distorted. Sorry you have bad actors surrounding you.

[@hoopandhands3328]

A lot of them are fake. They'll say things like "all men" but also "not my dad, brother, uncle" or "not the men I know" etc. Meaning they don't actually believe it, but it's the bandwagon thing to do and say so they do so.

[@andrewrai5752]

I’m a straight male who does feel that I was just not welcome in the liberal party to be quite honest, while the right was atleast willing to listen to me.

[@msvulcanspock]

So sexually assaulting girls and women, and leaving them to die from a lack of reproductive health care is part of what you aspire to?

[@scottl9660]

I’m right there with you mate. This was the first year it affected my vote and it certainly won’t be the last.

[@jewulo]

What were you trying to say that was taking for granted or unheard? What part of your life would be heard or taking into consideration by the new President and his new administration? You emphasized being a straight male and being taken for granted as a straight male. What policy or policies were at the intersection of your sexual orientation and your gender that caused you to be unwelcome? Could you elaborate on and attach some details to the nebulousness of your comment? Or better said; could you offer some specificity to the generic nature of your comment? Just a curious viewer from London, England, United Kingdom.

[@ARandomDonut]

It's a damn shame too, because Democrats offer no solutions, while the Republicans offer all the wrong ones. With no major player to challenge them, many men assume that the Republicans are right about everything when it comes to their problems.

[@TomMcBoston]

@@jewulo LOL Yeah let's talk about "intersectionality"! You are totally clueless about the loss. Get your head out of your sociology textbook and look at your positions.

[@ryanurban1]

Perhaps the constant chant of "toxic masculinity" played a role for both young men AND young women.

[@msvulcanspock]

65,000 pregnancies resulting from rapes occurred the red states that have abortion bans. 3 women die per day from Intimate Partner Violence. It is the reason why young women are not keen to get into relationships, that is for sure. There's a new movement.

[@Zeree-b7t]

It's disgusting

[@SoftDoughboy]

And patriarchy being blamed for everything

[@Melinamiu007]

their choice in a toxic person just proves how toxic they are. maybe instead of being defensive they should get mental help.

[@moj1338]

@@ryanurban1 Which Democratic party candidate talked about toxic masculinity? Did Kamala Harris or Tim Walz ever utter the word toxic masculinity? Did you hear it in any of the rallies? This man is recommending that all politicians go on a self-confessed moron podcast to appeal to young men AND now young women. Is this how we want to set up our future politics when instead of trying to educate and inform our young people to vote based on policies, we recommend more political power to the likes of Joe Rogan, a low-informed failed comedian?

[@theresehopkins1581]

My dad had a saying.... "you have to meet people where they are".... He was a very wise and non-judgmental man.... and I miss him and his wisdom so very much!❤

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

You’re dad had a spark of righteousness in him , very wise words

[@Richard-lh8jq]

THAT used to be Joe Biden ... until he was kidnapped by The Squad et al. 🤔

[@Richard-lh8jq]

And YES, Tim Walsh was a gift the Dems didn't value re: a "teacher-coach" for younger voting-age men in need of a believable motivator/leader.

[@theresehopkins1581]

@@Tamar-sz8ox He did have a righteous spark to him! Very insightful of you!! Thank you!😊🙏❤🥲

[@sparkleevenmore9638]

@@Richard-lh8jqWalz. And yes - the leader we needed.

[@rossdiljohn9222]

It wasn't misogyny, it was recognizing an incompetent elevated candidate.

[@johns.7297]

The Democratic Party messaging and liberal campus culture has been dumping on young men for decades.

[@Merriwether-w8k]

No, it dumps on older men - pay attention - young men have no power - and they should not get drunk and date rape girls - men still most of power is USA - you are wrong

[@rmzweig3972]

Is that free speech? Or maybe they need a safe space.

[@Merriwether-w8k]

@@rmzweig3972 Incurious and insensitive

[@thatokker9542]

@@rmzweig3972 putting young men in debt to be called patriarchal oppressors is so far from free speech that it should actually be criminal. its a giant scam just like trumps university

[@rmzweig3972]

@@Merriwether-w8k Curious about why people aren't more sensitive to hypocrisy

[@damianbiondo812]

Thank goodness someone is finally realizing that men have actual policy needs. The party to capitalize on those will prevail.

[@gikigill788]

Yeah, Republicans will put a bride in every home and a chicken in every pot. Republicans don't believe in Mental health, decent wages, housing costs and cost of living, all issues that are seriously affecting men and that's the party men have hitched their wagon to. Best of luck with that, my leopards are hungry.

[@teresamagnusson]

Once marriage rates get all the way down where they belong, I think we will see women's needs taking precedence. I give it about twenty years, the marriage rates are dropping as we speak

[@teresamagnusson]

I think once marriage rates drop down, the needs of straight white dudes will not be an issue.

[@Gray-b6g]

Us men made our voices heard and we are all the better for it

[@penguintaco9038]

KZbinr Shoeonhead said it best "Tim Walz was a minstrel show of a straight man"

[@heidijanuary3286]

Tim Walz was an absolute joke!

[@natashatrump7875]

Yep, you can't expect people who worship Andrew Tate to like Tim Walz.

[@letolethe3344]

Tim Walz was a football coach and an Army veteran. What exactly makes him a "minstrel show"?

[@rickclark7508]

@letolethe3344 Yeah that sounds good on paper but have you ever observed the man? He came off as lame and weak.

[@Nyingmaba]

when'd she say that? I'm interested to hear more of her thoughts

[@p382742937423y4]

I wonder if male issues will now be discussed with a little bit more respect and empathy in mainstream media and feminists circles.

[@msvulcanspock]

Male issues have been discussed with respect and empathy for thousands of years. Maybe men can finally start to take some iniative and responsibility?

[@trydowave]

​@@msvulcanspockhe said feminist circles and media. I haven't heard anything positive about men in those areas as long as I've been alive. Maybe young men are forging their own paths? That could mean theyll be your direct competitors rather than allies? If the trend continues who knows what the future will hold?

[@kilamoblack7532]

​@@msvulcanspock🤦🏾‍♂️

[@MicheleNerio]

@@msvulcanspock This whole argument makes me want to barf. Patriarchy is a system THEY'VE set up and benefitted from and it no longer works. The minute they figure out they're not a KING because they have a "penne" they throw on red hats, get violent, etc. PATH-etic. Those women who've internalized the "I won't be loved if I'm too much" can have 'em. A real man takes responsibility. I'll wait for one or live happily and at peace as I am.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

Nope. I can guarantee you, no. The best you're gonna get is Tim Walz in a camo hat.

[@lesbo37]

Some great points but Tim Walz just doesn't appeal to young men. His fake football story, his fake Tiananmen Square story, his fake military background just all don't resonate with men and when you throw in the zestiness that he showed whenever out in public and demonstrated incompetence (being a knucklehead is not a positive self assessment from someone running for VP) he just doesn't come across at all manly. It didn't help that he just got absolutely annihilated by Vance in the debate, they basically hid him from that point on as he'd been utterly exposed. If anything, Kamala was the more masculine of the Democrat candidates. It's funny that telling 50% of the voter base "we don't need or want you" and "you're toxic" and "the patriarchy" doesn't work. Especially when young men are doing worse by pretty much every single metric then the women.

[@rodneywoodcock8235]

Young men tend NOT to look up to goofy, pathological liars who put tampon dispensers in their restrooms, just saying

[@jeremims9044]

Raling against "the patriarchy" is never going to win men over.

[@MC_heart4]

"I eat white person tacos" Waltz was never going to give a good vision of masculinity. He is the buffoon father we have seen on tv for decades.

[@AliceBowie]

Tim Walz can't win, he's way too anti 2A to win enough states. He made a mess out of Minnesota, too. And he's just too awkward. Making an ad with him trying to load that shotgun sure backfired.

[@alexandru5369]

Dude is pretty effeminate also him being a teacher hurts him as public school is openly hostile too boys. Also him lying a lot doesn't help

[@brucemclennan9715]

This guest nailed it, people are not algorithms, they can hold 2 or 3 truths at the same time: may not like some aspects of Trump, but like his message, etc. Why do all the Moms dealing with the education system on behalf of their sons notice these issues, but the Dems don’t ?

[@bobpurcell8357]

Perhaps they're getting paid to take a dive. Or maybe they just got legitimately outsmarted by people who believe in Jewish space lasers and lizard people. I lean toward the former. And, Google, if you would desist with your idiotic "corrections," I'd have a lot less editing to do.

[@rationalmale6265]

Well said. Spot on.

[@jorgejohnson451]

It’s interesting that you deny the value of algorithms in an election involving a person who makes his living understanding the value of algorithms.

[@msvulcanspock]

Moms, Teachers and Dems know the issues, it is a problem that Republicans won't accept extra funding for their states or vote against proposals to improve educations. It is not a lack of awareness. It is the Republicans blocking solutions, which gives them a group of angry young men to exploit.

[@phil20_20]

Dems have their heads inside their own private reality.

[@bipoleto7483]

I've always criticized Generation Z, but this election made me realize I was wrong. I finally see young men who have woken up and are starting to fight for their rights that no one has ever cared about

[@orangedaisies]

Which rights exactly are young men fighting for?

[@bipoleto7483]

@@orangedaisies In addition to the long list that you can find everywhere, even in the article written by the interviewee, I would start by claiming the right to exist and not be considered an oppressor just because you have a penis

[@bellbeaker7014]

@@orangedaisies The right to due process. Equity in divorce. Overt discrimination in college applications, scholarships, employment. Incessant defamation in the media. Wrongful termination and discrimination in employment. Parental rights. STEM discrimination. Discrimination against boys. You guys are done, spend the next 30 years fixing your message.

[@a-b-cweaponsnightmare6544]

Joe Rogan saved the country with those two Trump/Vance conversations, end of story, and notice how the soy-ass interviewer avoids mentioning Joe Rogan by name, as if to not even acknowledge Joe's existence. The interviewee mentioned JR twice.

[@celinegrenier6508]

Which rights have they been denied?

[@stevenhuffman9032]

They stereotyped men as ignorant dude bros. Big mistake.

[@tarahoffman7785]

If they get stereotyoed them that way because they BEHAVE that way. If they want to be seen differently, they should present themselves in a different fashion. There are plenty of men in this country who don't get sterotyped in any negive manner and that is because they engage with the world in respectful and intelligent ways. And not one of those men voted for Trump, that is for darn sure!

[@cruizing]

I would also say that woke, identity and gender politics were some of the other Achilles' heels for the Democrats. They mistakenly assumed that Black and Hispanic voters shared these values. Democrats embraced wokism and began to refer to Latinos/Hispanics as "Latinx" - a term that the Latinos/Hispanic community was never consulted on and, in fact, hated.

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

Could you please define ‘wokism’? To my mind that is a pejorative term without specific meaning only wielded by rightwingers to mock and disparage what passes for left-progressive policy.

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

Could you please define ‘wokism’? To my mind that is a pejorative term without specific meaning only wielded by rightwingers to mock and disparage what passes for left-progressive policy.

[@tensaijuusan4653]

@@claesvanoldenphatt9972 Oh pleeze, do sit down. Divisisve, intolerant and racist CRT /DEI insanity = "woke" - comprende?

[@2drealms196]

Another issue is the DEI initiatives in corporate America that are discriminating against young white men. There have been a number of anonymous polls of hiring/HR managers in US and roughly 50% admit to being directed by their execs to discriminate against white men, and in some cases men in general. These policies on the surface are aimed to right historic injustices against minorities and women, and they may do so, but in the end they also disenfranchise young men, who are already falling behind in academics and in large urban centers earning on average less than young women. And these policies spearheaded by democrats further disenfranchise them.

[@hrundgren4352]

@@claesvanoldenphatt9972 Well, if you think it is a pejorative term you may be right. But it is well deserved. Woke-ism it is not progressive. It is divisive, not uniting people. DEI hire is morally wrong. It is dividing society and alienating people. If this is what the left policy is, then that is why they were voted out. You have the proof right here, in reality, after the election. Woke-ism is not popular.

[@Alexxf35]

Democrats demean and lecture, whereas Republicans lay out the welcome mat. It's really as simple as that.

[@randyjordan5521]

It says everything you need to know about the Democrat party mindset that they denigrate the phrase "Make America Great Again."

[@keithpalmer4547]

lol ok clown

[@johnholt2193]

They "lib-splain"

[@Secretary.of.Education]

I think you missed the part where Republicans use "performative masculinity." There's nothing less masculine than blaming everyone else for your problems.

[@Ravenelvenlady]

Exactly!

[@zzip0]

They basically destroyed the popular culture of 80s, 90s, even 2000s. Most of the excellent movies made then are impossible to be made nowadays because of ridiculous political correctness. You can not make even a decent comedy or parody movie, because you may offend some snowflake. The music .... basically disappeared as pop culture... I am sorry, but I don't have any idea about Taylor Swift... I vaguely can remember only one song from her about "shake it"... There is nothing wrong with shaking, I am all for shaking... but only one shaking and nothing more.... Sorry, you lost me.

[@rui569]

Snowflake kind of comment.

[@zzip0]

@@rui569 Snowflake or not, but at that time American culture ruled the World.

[@AstralPixie]

It is a shame. instead of raising the bar, with anything not-to-be intended to be taken *absolutely seriously* we have a culture that panders to the lowest common interpretation.

[@WannabeShady90]

​@@zzip0German here. You're absolutly correct. I used to love American culture, but now I despise it. I'd rather engage with Japanese or Korean culture

[@PeterCombs]

and outfits like PBS, NYTs, CNN, MSNBC, WBC, CBS, NBC, LA Times, NPR have all become nearly irrelevant, they blew their credibility over and over and over...and folks are looking elsewhere for information they can TRUST.

[@tanjah3502]

Where do you look for information you feel you can trust?

[@heidijanuary3286]

Truth

[@heidijanuary3286]

​@tanjah3502 Try watching Newsnation. Quite good and neutral.

[@MFKarensElectedDJT]

​@@tanjah3502 Oh, I bet it's FOX and Newsmax. We all know they're THE outfits for information we can "TRUST." 🤣😂

[@a-b-cweaponsnightmare6544]

​@@tanjah3502PBS was pure Harris propaganda from day one, but what's really funny is that she was completely abandoned like a stepchild after she lost the election, as if she never even existed.

[@Jeff-sm8ix]

Wow, they still don't get it. 'we talked about manufacturing jobs, look how we're talking to you'. Men are not _just_ manufacturers in a servant underclass to women.

[@teresamagnusson]

You can be alone, then. No amount of political power will convince women to date you. If you're too good to humble yourself to women, then have fun by yourself.

[@mooninites755]

They'll offer you manufacturing jobs and call you "uneducated voters". This is Richard Reeves solution for the Democrats. The dude is a complete clown

[@matthewcollins4773]

Yep. The problem is that for a long time society has operated on the feminine principle of tournament model dynamics, wherein male worth is *earned* through provider-protector activities in a system of stratification and exclusion. In a healthy masculine system, male worth is *inherent* because each male in the community forms part of the brotherhood of man. Remember that male humans are very unusual animals in that, unlike almost any other social animal, non-related males form close ties and supportive networks. The epidemic of male loneliness, the desperate attempts at finding worth and purpose, result from a system that has inherently stripped our sons of their natural, healthy dynamic in favour of telling them that their worth is earned, that they are in competition for it, and that only the apex male matters. Society cares about a) the collective of women, and b) powerful men. The majority of males have no political capital, only entering into consideration when they are a) useful labour or b) considered a threat. Most young men who are not in the richest 10% of society know that society and the establishment system offers them nothing but neglect and exploitation. This is true of right and left both, but the right at least doesn't actively push a hateful narrative about how males are actually a privileged class who are the enemy.

[@fazdoll]

If Democrats really cared about American men getting manufacturing jobs, they wouldn't have let in 15+ million illegal immigrants willing to work under the table.

[@sinologika]

This is probably one of the very few most sober analysis on the gender war in US elections. Kudos!

[@geraldineclarke5434]

It would have been more interesting if a woman had been on the panel.

[@terryr7622]

@@geraldineclarke5434You can find that on every other network🙁

[@gordongekko2781]

@@geraldineclarke5434 If the left can't even have a discussion about the problems facing young men without including women in the conversation -- I'd say that's part of the problem. When Roe v Wade was overturned everyone on the left went on offense, no one felt the need to run it past the men first. They just sprang into action, because they care about women's issues. I don't think they even want to acknowledge that men have issues too, much less address those issues.

[@ubub932]

​​​​​@@geraldineclarke5434 well, maybe for nuanced counter points . . . but, if toxic masculinity and attitudes of younger gen Z male voters are the topic . . . ? I mean, if the topic was reproductive rights or child-bearing, OK . . . but, that wasn't the topic for this video . . . maybe for subsequent, follow-up video to expand on this one . . . 💙

[@tuberific454]

I think part of his point was that it wasn't necessarily a conflict between genders but that the potus-elect was the candidate who at least made it sound like he had a plan for them. As he stated, it's not that they didn't support reproductive rights. It's that it wasn't a priority. What often gets overlooked is that in the 50s when jobs for non-college were in abundance, labor unions were 30% of the workforce. Also, there were housing subsidies that social scientists say led to the baby boomers by making ordinary men more attractive. But in recent decades men have been ingrained with the idea of a fabled "bootstrap" tech hero economy where individuality is championed, and the role of public investment is to be shunned as crutches for weakness. So, not only are they not getting the help they need and deserve, but they've been shamed into believing that asking for help conflicts with masculine values.

[@robwatson3600]

This election was not about policy, but about culture.

[@Quietstorm9]

Not even.. IMO....I'd say it was merely about attitude and posturing

[@WillN2Go1]

@@Quietstorm9 I've been bumping into people I never would've thought would've voted Toxic MAGA, but they did. I've managed to not get into arguments but to just ask them a few questions. No matter what I say, they scoff or chuckle and say, "That's not true." As in Trump has always been consistent in his positions, 'unlike the liberal Democrats.'' So I ask, what about accusing Obama of being born in Kenya? "He never said that. Com'on." It's like talking to members of a cult. I suggest they stop watching Fox News and see if their thinking changes. They all claim to follow other news, but never say what it is. And if they don't have a dazed look they're snarky bigots. I'm really tired of all these 'Experts' with their 'explanations.' Trump reached out to... no they appealed to fear, bigotry, and repeatedly lied. MAGAs believe the U.S. is in a deep financial crisis when in fact we're richer than ever -- it's just the top 10% gets almost all of the increased wealth we all produce, and the corporations keep raising prices on everything.

[@jaredgarrison333]

Absolutely

[@jaredgarrison333]

This election had nothing to do with economics. No one is more fiscally conservative and affected by inflation and unemployment than black folks. And we voted overwhelmingly for Harris. This is about people feeling comfortable with a certain type of culture in America and for whatever reason, feeling a guy who tanked the economy and mishandling a pandemic is the one to put in charge.

[@Jm-Gonz]

4 ears of absolute terrible economic, immigration and foreign policy couldn’t possibly be the reason Kamala lost ?

[@ericclark133]

The hosts of the show still don’t get it. If you don’t see a problem with Tim Walz crying over his defeat - which hasn’t happened before, including with every past Democrat candidate - then you’re not going to get it.

[@houstonduck4357]

I have been in the manosphere since 2003. Back then we were expressing our concerns about the issues we were facing. We were derided by the women, and their simps, white knights, and manginas. We warned them that if our concerns went unaddressed they would not like the results. Fast forward. A few weeks ago Smerconish had a poll question for his viewers. "Do you think the issues that men are facing is important?" 52 percent of the audience responded "NO". Do we have your attention now?

[@jewulo]

What issues are you facing that are the fault of women?

[@kilamoblack7532]

​@@jewuloIt is not a zero sum game🤦🏾‍♂️

[@tarahoffman7785]

Being an incel; is a private life matter, sorry. And while I am sure it is indeed difficult, it's not a legit public problem that needs to be addressed by politics or by anyone other than you and a qualified therapist. But yes, you got my attention now for sure. Fighting a Fascist govt takeover will do that to a gal. However, most intellectually sound women are still NOT going to sleep with you and now you also all have the literally crosshairs of our scopes trained on you- for self defense reasons. So, if making yourselves even less attractive to the general female population than you already were before 11/5/24 was the goal- mission fully and permanently accomplished.

[@ZiliaVing]

Why don't you men try to make this world a better place then? Because punishing women is not going to help. Women have been discriminated since forever, if you want women to pay attention to your needs, maybe you should pay attention to theirs?

[@ZiliaVing]

Also, we don't know what problems you are facing. You men need to speak up more! Not with each other, in hiding, but openly!! 🙂 Don't hate on women, do something constructive about it instead.

[@wyclefmarie5385]

They promoted trans 🏳️‍⚧️ and women and left men out of

[@TheNesbittExperience]

They abandoned women! Women no longer have sex-based provisions in the US. The re-write of Title 9 caused 26 states to sue the administration. Women are SCREAMING for their rights back and it has fallen on deaf ears. Being a woman is not a hate crime. The pernicious obfuscation of language led to a complete reversal of human rights.

[@Central_Media3656]

as a male who has to work for a living, I can assure you the Republican party doesnt do anything for me.

[@anglophils645]

This is the best analysis of why Trump won and Harris lost, that I've heard.

[@tombrown1898]

My favorite quote on this comes from none other than James Carville. When telling Bill Kristol about the "white, straight male problem" that Democrats have, James said, "If you listen to NPR for two weeks, you wouldn't know we even exist!"

[@celinegrenier6508]

Not quite true, but there are a lot of women on NPR. Catching up after thousands of years is apparently really grating for those who happen to be alive at this time. It will be good if/when things balance out.

[@Arven8]

Haha,, Carville hits it out of the park sometimes.

[@AstralPixie]

Yeah, Carville is sharp. You should check out the new documentary about him. It's quite good.

[@myroslavabasladynsky4937]

As corporations and oligarchs amass wealth and power ordinary people turn on one another hoping to salvage their dignity. A living wage for both women and men would alleviate many tensions. Instead, we are left voting on vibes.

[@truecatholic1]

The natural right to earn a living. Otherwise there likely is a low birth rate, low marriage rate, and the risk of suicide. FYI suicide is WRONG.

[@swampsprite9]

Conservatives haven't won any fair elections as far as I'm aware. They gerrymander and give more voting points to conservative rural voters. They rig it in front of us, so what are they doing behind our backs? Republicans rig more because they have most the money, power and corruption on their side....and that's what the left is up against.

[@austinfuller6568]

You feel like it’s Trump that’ll bring that about?

[@lucindabreeding]

Very worried that the enmity between men and women is deepening.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

Elites using LGBTQ as weapon against FAMILY oriented americans

[@willzsportscards]

it is just another permutation of generation 'me' that has lost the ability to see the 'we'. WE all need to work on this together.

[@maxpayne232]

And it's already pretty bad. Especially among younger people.

[@gordongekko2781]

Social media is tearing us apart. I can't imagine that the healing process can even begin as long as social media continues to be everyone's North Star.

[@Joshua-eo5hr]

Oh it's going to get a lot worse...

[@TractorBeam]

"The Dems believed they didn't need the votes" just plain arrogance by a lost party.

[@mooninites755]

And Democrats will only now care about men and men's issues to get your vote. They don't actually care. Don't let them forget that in 2028

[@okigi-wo5zm]

Abortion not reproductive Rights.

[@lisabrightly]

Good! The Democratic party needs a wake up call!

[@letMeSayThatInIrish]

They can't wake up, they are already 'woke'.

[@theloniousm4337]

The democrats are just fine. They need to do the exact same thing in 4 years.

[@yamerojones]

Just look at the guy defending Tim Walz who is endless stolen valor, they can't stop sweeping because they can't admit they are wrong.

[@amcaesar]

No one said the word “woke” or “they” or “Latinx” once in the stump.

[@karthy257]

They will double down and even lose bigly

[@trtoer]

as a Democrat and mother of a daughter and son I agree with everything this guest is saying.

[@teresamagnusson]

So you don't care about your daughter? I've got a son and two daughters and I'm not worried about my son at all. He will be fine. I'm concerned about my daughters' future the most.

[@trtoer]

@ despite the fact that your initial question was ridiculous, I’ll answer it this way: my children are both grown, and while it will be more difficult for young women going forward with regard to reproductive rights, I saw the struggles my son went through to find himself and fit in. Use your energy to make the world better for your daughters instead of assuming that mothers don’t care about all of their children.

[@gerardkiff2026]

I’m a gay Trump voter, there are a few of us lol. He’s right , my straight , male friends would say, I have no problem with gay guys but the dems have a problem with me.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

Well yeah, you're supposed to be a girl, didn't you know? You're just in the wrong body. Don't worry, we have a brand new therapy to convert you.

[@karmasweapon2861]

Ya one benefit of the increased progressiveness is that it affects both parties. Progressives online attack conservatives for being discriminatory, but it feels outdated. Nowadays I generally see progressives online constantly "othering" groups of people while the conservatives take the stance of not caring about anything besides perceived competence.

[@letolethe3344]

You're a disgusting person who threw trans people under the bus.

[@petervizzini4006]

​@@letolethe3344why fight for pdf files

[@MrAitraining]

There is nothing the dems hate more than gay Trump voters, women Trump voters and black Trump voters. They are traitors to the virtue signal elites. It's hilarious

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

Dunking and trashtalking repeatedly on specific groups in the population pushes them away from you when it comes to voting and elections. Who knew?

[@ComedyJakob]

I think this gentleman is dead on with the abortion issue. I myself am I man and I am pro choice, but it isn't a big priority for me. I kind of think it's killing a baby but it doesn't bother me terribly. I think the left mistakes a sizable portion of people who are pro choice for being passionately pro abortion, whereas the reality is likely more that most people don't think the government should be stopping people from doing it, they don't think it's the end of the world for someone to have one, they probably think the later term the sketchier it gets, and they're likely not voting one way or the other because of it. There's an unfortunate bubble in the DNC. People who are passionate about politics are not the average voter, but they are the ones who dedicate their lives to it and end up crafting policy and running campaigns. They're out of touch.

[@henrylicious]

Plus, the Supreme Court decided this issue. It wouldn't have mattered if Trump or Kamala were elected, abortion is a state-level issue.

[@Sarcasmarkus]

Well spoken ✊️

[@polyannamoonbeam]

Tim Waltz only set out a positive vision for trans men/women. Hence the rather derogatory title Tampon Tim. Perhaps unfairly but it epitomised the complete lack of attention given to young men's issues. One being - they don't want their children aborted , they are not racist, they are struggling academically, they are being left behind ...

[@Melinamiu007]

they just still control every single institution in society. but yes, lets keep feeling sorry for them.

[@petervizzini4006]

​@Melinamiu007 The Left and women hold the authority now, but please keep pretending to be a victim

[@tarahoffman7785]

Plenty of men, across the age and socio - eco spectrum are are not racist, etc. etc. That said, 100% of the ones who ARE voted for Trump. They are MAGA precisely because they are those things. Not just men either. Ever person who voted for Trump is one, or at the very least "ok" with it on some level. Which makes them either morally bankrupt, brainwashed or stupid. Or some combo of three. My money is most of MAGA falls into the combo category. Which means that there is hope for many of them to become good humans (again) once they leave MAGA behind.

[@ZiliaVing]

Are they though? Are young men being so left behind? What are men's issues? Also keep in mind that a lot of men will suffer from having to take care of a child that was not supposed to be born too. Abortion ban is impacting men's lives almost just as much as women's.

[@gokuformanvsfood]

​@@ZiliaVingthe education gap, successful suicide rates, apathy against todays young men for historical sexism that they weren't even alive for. Starting an ad trying to get white men to vote by starting off with " Hey white men we know throught out history when most of you used gather its was with white pointy hats on" , extremely condescending and insulting. Being almost completely ignored in the body dispmorphia/ self love movement. I voted for Harris/Walz btw but even I can see where the democratic party both shot itself in the foot and handed the right their talking points on a sliver platter by barely fighting against the being tied to the crowd that really thinks unnuanced slogans like "kill all men" would be the key to changing toxic cluture. I mean just look at the way large group of some left leaning women and men reacted to men talking about how the patriarchy negatively affected them last year. They used that moment as a way to express their cathartic resement instead of trying to offer an alternative place for these men to go and feel heard and welcomed, the feminists of yesteryear would have been jumping for joy at the opportunity to directly shrink the size of that toxic group but instead many in the modern setting just spewed the very toxic additudes and jaded resement that drives new comers away, again handing the right their talking points on a silver platter. Sure there were voices that spoke out against that zero sum approach but they were to few and to quiet, some even got hate as well, remember when the movement used to be about equality and love for everyone? If people genuinely felt that was still true for the left I gaurentee you that would've help tremendously in this election.

[@melimagan]

When you vote dont look at the color, race, looks, sex. Look at their ability, leadership and what they will offer. Kamala said" nothing comes to my mind". Election was decided at that moment. People did not wanted another 4 more years of Biden/Harris administration.

[@blythebrock600]

If you were listening to all the good things she was saying during her campaign i heard a clear message! Better healhcare elder care childcare money for down payment more building of homes 50,000 in tax breaks for new businesses. She said she was going to work to address and tackle price gouging and also deal with the border. I think Biden did a great job even with inflation due to the pandemic. It was a worldwide problem not just in the U.S. Trump had nothing and spewed hate and racist rhetoric and incoherent nonsense. He caused the horrible situation by his incompetence handling the pandemic. He committed an insurrection and tried to overthrow the government. How could this be a get out of jail card for him??? Insanity!!!

[@piscinaiv7937]

that's what prompted me not to bother voting--I could not abide that (or Trump) so I stayed home. My whole county is sold blue but my state went red anyway so my vote would not have mattered either way, but yeah "nothing I would change" was a real boner killer.

[@RobertWilcox-y5l]

Men have been denigrated and ignored for most of my life and I am 73 years old.

[@Tzg8441]

Women have been denigrated, ignored and treated like trash for thousands of years before that. Maybe men will learn how we feel now.

[@teresamagnusson]

This comment made me laugh for about eight minutes straight.

[@mooninites755]

​@@teresamagnussonare you still laughing after the election results? Keep laughing, see you in 2028 and we'll see who is laughing then too

[@teresamagnusson]

​​@@mooninites755I'm laughing even harder. It's about to be a forty year sh*t show. Buckle up!!!!

[@tobykelsey4459]

@@teresamagnusson Thank you for demonstrating the denigration so clearly.

[@nourishday6247]

I have never liked that term Toxic Masculinity. I have boys and girls

[@jolness1]

There is a sort of masculinity that is toxic, however I think it sounds like “masculinity is always toxic” to so many people.

[@lucindabreeding]

What term or phrase do you prefer? (Genuinely interested and not being hostile!)

[@geraldineclarke5434]

Raise your boys to understand and reject misogyny and they will NEVER be accused of Toxic Masculinity. You can do it! And I love you for it.

[@orangutanfan3179]

@@geraldineclarke5434 Why it the default assumption that men need to change? I suspect that is the core of the problem.

[@user-xv2sx8se1t]

It’s why the left are losing young men. Keep driving them right into the Republican party by demonizing them. Keep telling them they are the problem for just being men.

[@zephsmith3499]

"that the problems that many men feel they have in employment and education just really weren't being talked about reflected on the Democrat side" So they just *feel* they have problems. Condescend much? He has some good points, but it seems like he has to stay within the range of ideas that Democratic leaders can tolerate. For example, it's not true that the Democrats offered no model of non-toxic masculinity - but it landed like "men who defer to women and take a secondary roles are the most masculine". Or at best, be just like women, give up any distinct social role or identity distinct from the role of women. He wants Dems to understand their problem as having neglected young men - but is unwilling to acknowledge that it's more than neglect - they have demeaned young men (not even realizing they were doing so). Do they want to race motorcyles and take risks? Toxic masculinity, macho, testosterone driven. Look at the signs: "The Future is Female". Look at STEM tutoring and training available only to women. Look at the ratios in college. Look at how women have campaigned to get 50% of the high status or high pay jobs, but are glad for the guys to take most of the dirty, dangerous or low paying manual jobs. The Dems don't just need to change their messaging, they need to change their underlying biases against men, especially working class men. The Harris ads seeking male support came across as condescending, stereotyping, and superficial pandering without substance. The men they need to win over see right through that - they can feel that those designing the ads don't really like them, but just want their votes because the polls are saying women alone won't be enough after all. I'm glad not to be a young man, and to have established my career (which has been in the STEM area, but working with or for many women easily, I'm very compatible personally). I feel for them due to general challenges for all young people today, compounded by being at the bottom of the progressive oppressor/oppressed totem pole - especially those men who are not gay, trans, or minorities (who get a partial pass). Not all Democrats are totally caught up in what passed for progressivism in 2024 - but those who are true believers are almost exclusively on the left, and they young men are not seeing mainstream Democrats openly and consistently renounce the faction of the left which seems to consider them dirt. I don't think even this modest corrective message to the Dem leaders is likely to get through. After a few weeks of open discussion, it's likely that the party will wind up doubling down in the next election. Maybe if they get beat twice the message will sink in. (Of course, world events, unsuccessful and over-promised policies, and the ongoing anti-incumbency mindsets may work against Republicans and the Dems may win next time without any need to bring more young men into the party. As this guest explains they thought would work this time. They thought they could get by without much outreach to men and only began to make an effort when they were seeing the signs of a possible loss - otherwise they would have continued to ignore young men. And the young men may know that, consciously or as a background sense.

[@Vladislav888]

>The men they need to win over see right through that - they can feel that those designing the ads don't really like them, but just want their votes because the polls are saying women alone won't be enough after all This. It's akin to being on a date with a creepy misogynistic pickup artist, except it's men instead of women and vote instead of sex.

[@williamcolucci447]

Everything from PBS is figuring out how men got it wrong, rather than learning what they got wrong.

[@lauraw.7008]

Hmm. Except this one is kinda how women and men on the democratic team got it wrong in getting out our message.

[@scottl9660]

@@lauraw.7008 Democrats got their message out, it’s just that the message was one of distain and no longer concealed contempt towards men. I think the most telling thing was that they knew there were men votes out there. They didn’t want them.

[@swampsprite9]

Mainstream media tries to divide everyone, as George Carlin said back in the 90s in a YT stand up. While men are praising Andrew Tate and getting angerier at women, women are joining the 4b movement. If this trend continues humanity is gonna get seriously depopulated or go extinct lol.

[@JCMasterCraftsman]

@@lauraw.7008actually, there was no “message” to offer young men, only their actions of keeping the anti-masculinity, post modern feminist zeitgeist intact and moving forward.

[@davidkulmaczewski4911]

@@lauraw.7008 Their message came through loud and clear, though.

[@jpsmith9452]

Yeah they didn’t use governor jazz hands enough to appeal to working class men. The guy pranced around like a coked out muppet.

[@Arven8]

I was with the guest until he held up Waltz as a positive male role model. Eeesh. They didn't call him Tampon Tim for nothing.

[@sbullock2976]

Talk to men about how you're going to help us make strong businesses, afford a home for our family, provide for our family, do the traditionally masculine things that are healthy for society. This is what we want. We don't want to be a footnote on women's issues. Make being a man feel great again! We can't be less priority than minority issues. And stop blowing up minority issues and making that the focus - do that as an add on. No one really cared about the millionth Trump or January 6th prosecution - those just wasted time and made people feel neglected and like the administration was unfocused on delivering for the majority.

[@Arven8]

Yup. Well said.

[@tomsullivan7820]

What does he mean by saying it's not about sexism? It absolutely is about sexism. Against men.

[@awuma]

14:00 Abortion is greatly over-blown as an election issue.

[@williamg7267]

The constant identity politics is old. The country has spoken. What’s more important is not race, gender or sexuality but rather the class you’re in. Focus on NEEDS of everyday Americans vs focusing on the WANTS of the donor class and you might win a future election

[@johnanderson8714]

I was tired of hearing about women's and race issues while i struggle to keep above water!

[@jakespivey3716]

I hear you. But, now we've turned over the country and our fate to a crazy person. This is a bargain we're going to be regretting very soon.

[@judykinsman3258]

Wow! So it’s women & people of color who are at fault because they get off their asses?

[@DifferentDose]

Y'all can regret, not Black people who are leaving. We voted the right way as usual. Y'all get to sort out brain worm guy heading the CDC, Wow! Will cheap eggs be worth it 4 years from now? 😞

[@tommcfadden5232]

@@jakespivey3716The choice was between a crazy person and a person who can’t define what a woman is.

[@jakespivey3716]

@@tommcfadden5232 there's no comparison, Trump will reveal himself in his 2nd term all of his meanness and cruelty will be indulged. we will just have to suffer through it.

[@bthink3610]

Tim Walz and masculinity 🤣

[@Royl65]

Feels good to hear someone talk about men with some empathy

[@petervizzini4006]

Fake empathy

[@tfustudios]

And I'm hearing SO many of my liberal colleagues saying things like "We need to scream at men even louder now!!"

[@addorsubtract650]

That’s nothing. There’s a group of psychotic man hating feminists called the 4B group Who are making themselves ugly so men don’t want to bang them! 😂 they are shaving their heads off! 😂

[@petervizzini4006]

​@addorsubtract650 they're also wanting to poison men

[@Arven8]

Of course. Double down on the lunacy, maybe that'll work.

[@BoldWittyName]

Student loan forgiveness. Most ppl that eschew college to go str8 into the workforce are young men. And their tax dollars have to pay for ppl who chose a dead end degree and now want a bailout? Complete slap in the face.

[@msvulcanspock]

The top 1% pay no taxes, that is the slap in the face.

[@supermash1]

Good point.

[@scottl9660]

Honestly, that’s the solution to Democrats man problem. Do you want more liberal men send to college. Do you want redress home ownership rates, send men to college. Do you want to take a bite out of those 5 million able bodied non-working dudes send them to college. Only problem is dems have no place for men in their coalition, so good luck asking them to pass title nine protections for men. You might as well just wait for judgment day before a Democrat will give two F’s about a dude .

[@Katja-Kitty]

So, vote for the guy who has been bailed out by bankruptcy many times and regularly tried not to pay contractors who worked for him when he wasn't in bankruptcy? Makes sense. 😂

[@BoldWittyName]

@@Katja-Kitty The election wasn't a referendum on someone's character. There's a reason neither party ever recruited Mother Theresa. You. Are. Blind. That's putting it nicely.

[@AstralPixie]

I'm a woman, and the anti-masculinity vitriol of PC Idealogues has turned me off from the Democratic Party. Secondly we need to be able to be able to separate personal life from professional life. Look, some very great Presidents cheated on their wives, that didn't stop them from being important Presidents. **Be kind to them, men have souls, too**

[@dannysullivan3951]

The ERA still hasn’t passed, men represent 75% of Fortune 500 CEOs and 66% of elected officials. Unless you’re a trad wive, you need to check your facts. Many of the rights you hold today were considered anti-masculine 50 years ago.

[@Dog.soldier1950]

Simply acknowledging the problem for men is addressing the issue

[@vimalaeru5640]

So true… for too long we have seen gender relations as being a zero sum game. That is not the case - it is time we started listening sincerely to young, unemployed, alienated, single men from the working classes and the middle class.

[@phil20_20]

Test Tube Politics

[@justinamenta7241]

​@@phil20_20unemployed?

[@tarahoffman7785]

I am now and have been finding it difficult to consider MAGA men as being worth listening to when they view women and minority communities as deserving less rights that their front lawn should get. When they change their tune, then I will open my ears to them again. And not a moment sooner either.

[@petervizzini4006]

​@@tarahoffman7785Funny, how maga is a very diverse group of people who are respectful to each other

[@MFKarensElectedDJT]

​@@petervizzini4006 Silly 🎺🐑❄️

[@jasonvorva9164]

And also…can we stop this “democrats still have policy” to help men…NO. If this was true men would be improving. It’s NOT just communication.

[@mr.raslyon6626]

One side called them toxic, the other side called them Patriots. See? No advanced degree required 😂

[@peacetoeverymind]

Common sense, right? 😂

[@frankie0714-dj1pf]

One of the best articulations of male issues today, without hyperbole or conspiracies. Well done!

[@jeffreybookman8982]

You’re right that men feel more affinity with the Republican Party but you’re wrong about policy . Men definitely feel that drilling for oil keeping jobs in the USA will help them much more than the handouts that they might get from the Democrats

[@donniemoder1466]

Men white and other colors resent constantly being lectured on women's, gay rights, trans rights and racial bias/racism.

[@georgewatsulu2626]

Even the bears didn't vote for Kamala Harris?😂😂

[@AlexMyren21]

Tim walz was a terrible pick. It absolutely should have been Shapiro. Walz is a feminine man, they won feminine men. Where was the strong man who would stand up and say "men are masculine and strong".

[@creynolds588]

Men showed up! Thank God. They literally saved the nation.

[@a-b-cweaponsnightmare6544]

In some weird way, the country isn't that dumb because more than half the country ultimately abandoned "Cackles" Kamala. We'll never be hearing any of her word salad ever again. Thank God.

[@jeremims9044]

I would disagree with the "literally saved the nation" rhetoric because I think in the long run Trump is going to do much more harm than good, but democrats deserved the loss of the men vote in this election for sure.

[@a-b-cweaponsnightmare6544]

@@jeremims9044 You would be thinking exactly this since you're probably the demographic that PBS is aiming for in the first place. Meanwhile, someone like myself only throws on PBS already knowing that it's essentially Deep Blue Democrat propaganda through and through. You have to "know your enemy," so to speak. That's the only reason I ever watch any PBS news.

[@Mannyvz295]

Wokeness is why I left the DEM party

[@tarahoffman7785]

No- not having your indiviual flavor of -ism be given a pass anymore is why you left.

[@Arven8]

Good job. You got free of the BS.

[@jeffarcher8827]

This guy had it 100% Up till the point he said "none of the problems men face are due to deliberate anti male policies" We have eyes and ears we've seen it, heard it, felt it

[@jenniferfisher7455]

Black women vote on race men vote on logic.

[@markdevine4888]

Men want to care for and support and protect women but feminism views these desires as wrong and threatening. Too bad.

[@yzerman123]

He raises some good points, but is completely wrong about the lack of policy substance from Republicans to attract male voters. The policies for lower taxes and more jobs for the middle class, including tariffs on imports, were aimed directly at men in blue collar jobs.

[@christianhume7618]

EXCELLENT and well balanced discussion! Thank you very much Richard Reeves!

[@Fenristripplex]

Young men came through for common sense and sanity.

[@hybridPeople358]

Democrats to voter: What college did you go to? Voter: I didn't go to college. Democrats: 😂

[@savevsdeath]

I'm 41 and have been told im a worthless predator my entire life. That's why.

[@entropyvortex2484]

Walz revealed himself to be a pathological liar. Not an impressive candidate.

[@WillieFungo]

Why don't the Democrats just accept that Trump is an individual and his behavior doesn't have anything to do with "performative masculinity." Are men allowed to just be humans without being lumped into identify boxes and stereotypes?

[@louisdriscoll2580]

Average working class men and woman saw thru this delusional campaign and voted accordingly

[@AmeriGlobal]

The working class didn't like Biden inflation and they won't like more Trump tariffs.

[@checkeredflagfilms]

excellent. this man should have been part of the Democratic election strategy team. As it was, they entirely missed the boat.

[@addorsubtract650]

But they weren’t even courting the male vote. Their whole strategy was to get enough Republican women to flip for Kamala that she wouldn’t need men to win. And that strategy obviously failed.

[@marwar819]

Agree completely, this race was not about sexism or racism. Harris came across like an idiot.

[@frankalmanzar3492]

The Democratic Party dropped the ball. I think that’s why they lost.

[@AI-xs4fp]

young men, black and latino men fell for the spell of sexism that MAGA promised. They were NEVER going to vote for a BLACK WOMAN.

[@PeterZeeke]

thanks for that deep analysis

[@EdBenji]

They never had the fking ball in the first place!

[@risingphoenix1484]

No the dems will continue to blame misogyny

[@frankalmanzar3492]

I love how both of the above comments are opposing views. It’s not obvious that they dropped the ball, A; and B, I think the dems did have the ball in the first place considering that Trump is beatable hence why Biden beat him handedly in 2020. Had the democrats held a primary, they probably would’ve won.

[@raheelakhtar7]

I thought it was the price of eggs that decided the election? How would the election turn out if eggs were $2/dozen instead of $4-5 (average)?

[@robertd9850]

It was likely more likely about the price of housing. Young people know all too well what it cost. It also was about the border and liberal over the top weirdness.

[@raheelakhtar7]

@ housing ain’t coming down no matter who you elect

[@robertd9850]

@@raheelakhtar7 See 2007.

[@Zitolos]

Crazy how you can say trump isn't a good role model and then say tim waltz could have been. Dude is a liar. And everyone deep on sports knows an assistant coach , A coordinator isn't a coach the way y'all trying to frame it. Lying about military service was a huge fail too. Lying about being in tiananmen square. And saying, " hey, I'm just a knucklehead and a goofball" is wild. Y'all will continue to be out of touch until you can start to acknowledge these things