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@yarkokshini892
@yarkokshini892 3 жыл бұрын
Mr T Haokip talked very sensible. He mentioned facts and showed himself that he is a respectable person. Nagas and Kukis really need to come to an understanding to unitedly work for the equal benefits and goodness of the hill people. Mr Mao presented his points very well. Dr Noni is very knowledgeable, accommodating and shown the heart for equal benefits for both hill and valley people. However, the last point about being apprehensive of losing territorial integrity seems to be just a ground to stand in the way of hill people's struggle for more autonomy. Mr Athuan's points are not understandable and there's nothing appreciable. Mr Khuraizam's way of dealing with issues won't work. He may sound good to the ears of our meitei brothers but kukis and nagas won't be happy.
@johnsr9398
@johnsr9398 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I saw you, I knew that you were the one for me. I guess love at first sight is real because I fell in love the second your eyes met mine. I love you, honey, from the bottom of my heart.
@DK-or7ud
@DK-or7ud 2 жыл бұрын
My hearty salutations goes to T Haokip and Dr. Xavier for speaking out the truth from their hearts❤💞👍
@alexmilun9420
@alexmilun9420 Жыл бұрын
A day without a lie is a day wasted. Meitei proverb.
@lalpuhaokip4323
@lalpuhaokip4323 3 жыл бұрын
Prof Mao & Abonmai too mentioned regarding the so called "Lion share"...... but it's very unfortunate to have a discipline-less panelists like Athouba, who have no regards for the elders, and attacking only Mr T. Haokip..... It shows that he is scare of the young people and the Naga panelists. Appreciate the other Meetei panelists, Dr Noni for showing maturity and reasonable views.
@RoziioAruo
@RoziioAruo 7 ай бұрын
We are proud of Professor Xavier Pfokre Mao speaking on behalf of We Mao Nagas revealing our true identity and rights.
@namnaheinza9563
@namnaheinza9563 Жыл бұрын
Salute to Prof Xavier Mao who spoke the truth. Tribals were never subject of meiteis.let the truth prevail
@Bob-lz2cs
@Bob-lz2cs 3 жыл бұрын
"Manipuri" is an imposed identity on the tribals of Manipur. The term is used by Meiteis to please themselves, wherever and whenever they want to use. Fact: The term "Manipuri" has always been synonymous with "Meitei". Nagas are Nagas. Kukis are Kukis. Don't impose the Manipuri identity on the minority groups.
@loirehekangleicha8964
@loirehekangleicha8964 3 жыл бұрын
As a Meitei, I Dont Like the term. MANIPUR. I will prefer to call HAOLAM/HAOREIPAK which willl have real entitlement among the Real Indigenous people . unity , shared value. On top of it which will feel. Certain belongings to that Name. Now its high time to teach a Lesson those who have Meitei-Hegemony / Brahmin dirty Politics. Mindset.
@sagapamkeshav2385
@sagapamkeshav2385 3 жыл бұрын
See guys, the fact is no one takes two fake accounts giving opinions, seriously.
@poujanggaigangmei5986
@poujanggaigangmei5986 3 жыл бұрын
@@loirehekangleicha8964 Rite
@cbdd123
@cbdd123 3 жыл бұрын
As a meitei myself, I completely agree with your comment. I personally don't like the term "Manipur" itself. It's a very bhramanical name and bhramanical norms are also the main reasons why there is this chingmi-tammi divide and the also the root cause of all mistrust and conflicts between the hill dwellers and valley dwellers.
@Bob-lz2cs
@Bob-lz2cs 3 жыл бұрын
@@sagapamkeshav2385 well.. U cared enough to reply.. Don't fool urself bruh.
@jameskajiche8159
@jameskajiche8159 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Zeliangrong Brothers! First Stop making if you can't crucify Abonmei in the leadership of your Tribes if you consider a Naga
@lunglengtharmi7527
@lunglengtharmi7527 3 жыл бұрын
Forgive him they Have more than 50 villages within imphal
@Aj-lw1ej
@Aj-lw1ej 3 жыл бұрын
😅
@l.melody7397
@l.melody7397 3 жыл бұрын
The meetei fear to respond to Naga panejist instead shout to the truth speaking kuki panelist😉eating up all the hill dev.fund&speaking like angels voice..😂😂😂😂😂
@truthhurts450
@truthhurts450 3 жыл бұрын
Who is a Naga?
@arjunadivideos3677
@arjunadivideos3677 3 жыл бұрын
@@l.melody7397 😂😂😂 it seems true
@loveatfirstfright9535
@loveatfirstfright9535 3 жыл бұрын
All these panelist needs to address the difference between ethnocentric based politics and class based politics. The claimed that one particular community is advanced community is clearly null and void, you need to see the issues from a class perspective, which every fkng one of u failed to see, every community be it naga , kuki, meitei have different class of people based on their economic privilege. Those in the elite section/ group plays the sentiments of the lower groups using the ethnocentric card which is very much a poision among the various ethnic groups. Dont play with the sentiment of the common man.
@thinktank4481
@thinktank4481 3 жыл бұрын
Mr athouba have vast knowledge to counter all the questions with valid answers with genuine approach....hats off to you bro...we need more like you
@meeteilichat
@meeteilichat 3 жыл бұрын
Hill MLAs and Hill Area committee are responsible for the past many years for backwardness of the hills in Manipur and the same fact is commonly known to both Nagas n Kukis.
@rng9765
@rng9765 3 жыл бұрын
State planning board and CMO headed by CM plays a crucial role in positioning the schemes and various plans mostly enunciated by the central govt . Hill MLA who are minister in their resp. Department are merely executioner of the development plans.The state planning board/CMO mostly positioned the developmental plans in valley.Which mean that all money is pumped into valley by way of labours payment, emplotment generation etc.For example, Irrigation project was implemented in toto in valley while the same wasnot implemented in hilly area where hill suited irrigation typo could have been taken up.
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
@@rng9765 Keep on day-dreaming bro. I have never heard large-scale irrigation projects in hills. It is against basic principles of physics. To lift large amounts of water to great heights requires lot of energy and is not economically viable. Which hill area in manipur has enough acreage for a medium size irrigation project? I know only few - khoupum, khuga etc. But that already has irrigation projects in place. These projects are executed with loans which need to be repaid. Only tax payer money can repay it. There is no income taxation in hill areas so no banks will provide loan. And you cannot even mortgage your land because it is not even in proper records. No financial institution follows some oral records and legal setup dictated by village chiefs. They follow only constitutional law and no tribal law.
@rng9765
@rng9765 3 жыл бұрын
@@undoc755 for your knowledge there are big area in such place as ccpur and chandel where irrigation scheme can be implemented.Not only irrigation there are many infrastructure schemes .Pls do your homework on how govt developmental are distributed and placed.You should know govt led development schemes are from budget and some of them are from central govt.There is no questionof loan in all these things.
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
@@rng9765 Sorry your knowledge is very limited. Go to Asian development bank, World bank sites and check for projects in NE. Asian highway and many other projects are funded by these banks. They are not charity houses printing money and disbursing money but they are banks lending out money. Govt. implements viable projects. You search for history of Manipur rail connection. Feasibility study was started and detailed plan was prepared way back in 70s and work started in 2000s. Reason for not taking up the project - not economically viable and there won't be return on investment. That is how it works. Govt. projects are not started by just printing money. And regarding development projects in areas that you mentioned check with your ADC representatives. People with UNIQUE HISTORY want local governance, local laws and their own way of doing things. Only when they want free handouts they seem to remember govt.
@thangkholunhaokip4926
@thangkholunhaokip4926 Жыл бұрын
Athouba 😊😊😊😊 very frustrated with lion share😮😮
@tsseipuhaokip
@tsseipuhaokip Жыл бұрын
Manipur has 60 MLAs of which 40 seats are alloted for Meiteis and only 20 seats are alloted to Hill Tribes.... This is one of the Lion Share of the Majority group in the state of Manipur..
@somorjitnongmeikapam2127
@somorjitnongmeikapam2127 3 жыл бұрын
More agenda,more confuse, more conflict, more ethnic,50K population state autonomy.NSCN IM issue will resolved soon and if we dnt use nagaland NH and dnt give taxes to NSCN,automatically issue will resolve,it will not last long One year.
@konjengbamkameshore
@konjengbamkameshore Жыл бұрын
There are many books and records about Manipur and her history. British administrators and scholars like TC Hodson, James Johnstone, Mrs Grimwood, R Brown, McCulloch, Damant, A Mackenzie, EW Dunn, William Shaw etc are just some of them. Census of India 1891, 1901, 1931, Linguistic Survey of India, Gazetteer of India, the grand meeting between the Viceroy of India Lord Northbrook and the Manipur King Chandrakirti on August 10, 1874 at Fulertal, Cachar etc are some of the records among others.
@johneron2023
@johneron2023 3 жыл бұрын
Ethnic aspirations will continue to exist until these ethnic people got their own nation. Meitei or Kanglei people tried their best political and cultural effort to make united these ethnic peoples. More or less they succeeded the process until King Charairongba. At least they could unified about 44 ethnic communities eg. Mangang, Luwang, Khuman, Khaba, Nganba, Chenglei, Leishangthem, etc.etc.under the Meitei or Kanglei ethnonym. But after Pamheiba ( son of Charairongba) adopts Ramandi ( a sect of Hindu ) , it could not continued the nation making process. On the other hand , the nation making process has continue among the ethnic peoples like Simte, Gangte, Zomi, Zou, Thadou, etc. etc under the nomenclature as Kuki. And also, the Luhuppa ( the Tangkhuls ) led to make unified the other ethnic peoples like Maring, Anal. Moyon, Monsang, Mao, Maram etc etc under the nomenclature of Naga. A Luhuppa or a Thadou must not denied the historical fact that once the Kangleipak suzerainty was extended upto the eastern bank of Ningthi or Chindwin River. On the other hand a Meitei must not deny the fact that a Luhuppa or a Thadou has its own Federal Republic .
@ranabirsingha6710
@ranabirsingha6710 3 жыл бұрын
Very well put. Where did you learn all these? I would like to learn.
@ratanchab5660
@ratanchab5660 3 жыл бұрын
So ,the problem lies with denials about the truth and the facts where nation building process was led astray with vested interests and political gains or for other reasons well known , regarding more no. of representatives in assembly is not according to the whims and fancies of a particular community or race but it's the constitution , the idea of oneness or Manipur for instance doesn't mean we r or u r ruled by a particular community or race or under them or him but the idea of oneness existed which crucified the narrow lines of ethnic and communal based evils ......, conflicts ,clashes between communities increases in no. Nobody in this world will say tht the naga- kuki clash or the Meitei- pangal clashes were right ....rather a product of continuous spewing of hatred and factionalized ideas to the innocent people .So , now we r deep rooted with the ideas of factionalization tht it shattered into pieces not desired but undesirable no. of issues ...infact opening a pandora box ......so dear brothers and sisters let's unite and be peacefull
@simeonkhuptong922
@simeonkhuptong922 3 жыл бұрын
Tribals are not United.They want ministerial posts than tribal rights and interests
@hijamgyaneswarsingh879
@hijamgyaneswarsingh879 3 жыл бұрын
right, they want for their own profit not for the people's unity
@keishamwang2128
@keishamwang2128 3 жыл бұрын
Wasbir sir we also wanna see similar topic **Naga identity between Manipur naga vs Nagaland Naga** by calling panelists from Nagas n self proclaimed nagas. It would be very interesting to all viewers.
@liangribouabonmai1184
@liangribouabonmai1184 3 жыл бұрын
Wow..... Who are naga and who are not among the nagas...plis clarify,,...just wanna know who are self proclaim naga...unless you get rid of this mentality,you r showing seed of hatred among naga brothers nagas are all naga wherever they are...stop spreading your stupidity....
@keishamwang2128
@keishamwang2128 3 жыл бұрын
Plz make urs **who r nagas n who r not ** as topic in NE Live Discussion first, then Ur doubts will be cleared. Abonmai sir, we should feel proud of being our very own tribe or race not the man made ,Let's preserve our age old customs,faith n race.
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
@@keishamwang2128 meiteis are in no way related to the hill people
@kangleipakimagimapao9235
@kangleipakimagimapao9235 3 жыл бұрын
Keisham Wang it topic is just like to identify between the coated gold vs pure gold. Duplicate or kacha or coated is self claimed to be a original brand by borrowing other traditional dresses, borrowing culture, language, foreign English oor other languages or religious. But in the inner heart of original brand laughing at the borrowers or duplicate as a shameless duplicate people
@keishamwang2128
@keishamwang2128 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 Bro just pay a field visit to the oldest living person male or female of Ur area n ask him or her to justify chingmi and Tammi r brothers. Gather info from authenticated sources otherwise height of stupidity will be rampant.
@modovingata9885
@modovingata9885 3 жыл бұрын
Hat off to Professor Xavier's for speaking the truth.
@sangmuan3264
@sangmuan3264 3 жыл бұрын
The hypocrisy is they don't want naga integration ok fine. They don't want kukiland fine again. All fine as they don't want the demography to be changed. When they oppose even autonomy to the tribals, demand ST status, raise objection to delimitation results ,6th schedule or to anything that will bring fairness that is when you realise how shallow and egoistic these meiteis are. Solution will be there when these meiteis start respecting the tribals. But they won't because they need instability to further their demonic agendas
@Bob-lz2cs
@Bob-lz2cs 3 жыл бұрын
Well put bruh..
@truthhurts450
@truthhurts450 3 жыл бұрын
You people will gain nothing by opting hate politics. Pity that You could never see the bigger picture. You don't even have a appropriate base to support your identity which you guys swear by your God and Guns.
@sangmuan3264
@sangmuan3264 3 жыл бұрын
@@truthhurts450 not just tribals all human beings have the right to live in dignity.That is never called hate politics.Period. Subjugation policies and politics will never satisfy your egos rather it will get inflated like it already is. You will only see the clear picture when you make up from from your prejudices and learn to see as a normal human being-not with a subjugatory or dictatorial viewpoint
@truthhurts450
@truthhurts450 3 жыл бұрын
@@sangmuan3264 Oh will you explain it to me where is the dignity when you people desperately seek to join a new family (which literally has no connection on any front but by only a name Naga which is good as a misnomer) by disregarding your own brothers of the same soil. Your narratives is more prejudiced and insubstantial than ours if truth to be told. And wait a minute, you speak of ego... Who is gloating over someone's helplessness... you or us?? Have a more clear frame of mind before giving that bs what you refer to as subjugation politics. You had played the victim card far too long which might have some credibility long ago but not now. You people teach your children about building a nation on the basis of an ethnocentric idea!! That too on this 21st century... and you try to sugarcoat it with the word dignity...wonderful. I can go on and on all day long and shall never finished regarding this. The truth is you always prove yourself wrong whenever you try to prove it otherwise. PERIOD
@sangmuan3264
@sangmuan3264 3 жыл бұрын
@@truthhurts450 you have said nothing substantial at all therefore let me present you some factual history---the answer to everything lies in knowing who you live with as I said before if you only try to understand. The hills were independent ruled by their own chiefs. Nagas and kukis existed before this so called state Manipur. Therefore they happened to be included in the state of Manipur that's it. They are not Manipuris and will never be This will never change be it in 21st or 100 th century. Next in the present context Just because you can't control your own population doesn't mean you can own their lands. We never ask for your lands-you can create your own KANGLEIPAK in the valleys for all we care. There is not enough space to live in the valley but plenty to build major offices and institutions. And the list goes on and on. Tribals have always try to co exist in harmony with the meiteis always. Sadly our good heartedness have been taken as weaknesses. Passing acts to steal their lands,trying to distort their history,making sure that tribals never have a smooth sailing by making their autonomous council toothless, lying to central govr with terms like local adjustments and son. Also there is no victim here. Only AGGRRSSORS and defenders. We are defending our rights. Victim is unused for helpless people who are totally helpless. We have always defended for what is ours abs and will never be bullied nor coerced ever
@adityaloitongbam9050
@adityaloitongbam9050 3 жыл бұрын
Profesor NONI sir you have said well and explain minutely. Thanks sir hats off to you
@lalpuhaokip4323
@lalpuhaokip4323 3 жыл бұрын
Yes... 👍
@zingtai7426
@zingtai7426 3 жыл бұрын
Athouba please stop misleading. Meiteis were never called Manipuri but Kangleichas. People like Athouba is still spreading the lies and imposing the lies which is further dividing the people.
@deeptiroy2973
@deeptiroy2973 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Mr. Wasbir and Northeast live for bringing up this topic. Well said all the panelists except Mr. Xavier Mao. I don't know how he got his PhD. Mr Mao, you have a lot of hatred and grudges towards a particular community. Please refrain yourself from such act. ☮️ PEACE
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
Phd for his thesis on "How to spread hatred and contaminate innocent minds- a study on hate mongering"
@tomthillaishram3082
@tomthillaishram3082 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be surprised. He becomes professor through quota.
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomthillaishram3082 yup. Meiteis should stop demanding ST
@Aj-lw1ej
@Aj-lw1ej 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Solomonways
@Solomonways 3 жыл бұрын
He speak facts which is why you guys hate him
@brucewayne269
@brucewayne269 3 жыл бұрын
For those who think they were not under manipuri king, see urself here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/moeshYemfs6Lr6c Arunachal, Nagaland, barak valley, some parts of burma were under manipuri king.
@mairembamdhanarajsingh7708
@mairembamdhanarajsingh7708 3 жыл бұрын
Development starts from grass root level.Instead of blaming others,my fellow tribal brothers firstly choose ur MLA who is willing to work for his people efficiently.
@Aj-lw1ej
@Aj-lw1ej 3 жыл бұрын
A very good suggestion.well we should also not negate the existence other factors.
@sklu309
@sklu309 3 жыл бұрын
so many furies and hatred in these comment section. kukis nagas meiteis spewing hatred on each other. Mainland India is happy to see this. they are taking our weakness and problems as an opportunity to keep us under control ( same old policy of divide n rule as brits used in colonial era ). my naga kuki brothers, there were no terms like nagas kukis until brits arrived. meiteis called them by other names.and for the term " Manipur/ manipuri" , do u think we really like it? some bengali/hindi derived term!! ... P.S. and never ever think that we are begging u to stay united with us. in fact, u my dear hill bretherns, u need valley. we have been welcoming you n will will do so in future too. so why so much hatred coz of some ill people. peace and brotherhood be upon us. ❤️
@Hanmantkendre
@Hanmantkendre 3 жыл бұрын
Solve issues peacefully 🙏 from MahaRashtra.
@kangleipakimagimapao9235
@kangleipakimagimapao9235 3 жыл бұрын
Original naga of Nagaland always laughing at the duplicate or kacha Naga or self styled naga from Manipur or other states except their original naga. But the coated or duplicate always wanna to called them as a original brand. Coated gold is not a pure gold.
@chinglenkhombayumlembam1672
@chinglenkhombayumlembam1672 3 жыл бұрын
Epic comment 👌🔥👌😂
@zuzuisu5708
@zuzuisu5708 3 жыл бұрын
Nah..... Ur just scared tat the nagas will hat tooo powerful.... We have a lot of relations with the nagas of nagaland And how did ur useless meitei brain even come to think tat manipur nagas are not nagas But who cares.... Nagalim is going to happen....
@bimalmoirangthem9174
@bimalmoirangthem9174 3 жыл бұрын
@@zuzuisu5708 it's happen after destroyed world fool
@ratanchab5660
@ratanchab5660 3 жыл бұрын
Today Nagaland , kukiland tommorow zomi land, paite land, mao land , rongmeiland , zelinag land land land and finally good thing is only land remains
@mkls77
@mkls77 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@khochonhaokip1281
@khochonhaokip1281 3 жыл бұрын
Accd to Dr Noni ,2011 census ...44:41(valley& hill) ,then no. Of state MLAs representation Which is 40:20(valley &hills) is a big question to reason and ask?? Maturity of analysis can be seen from Dr Noni and Mr Haokip. Mr.Abonmai also articulates well. Others are alittle bit emotions and immature in dealings the issues in alarger pictures. Its difficult to listen them.
@brucewayne269
@brucewayne269 3 жыл бұрын
41% is ST population. Many STs are there in valley. 44% is only meitei. There are many others non-manipuris, muslims, etc. in valley.
@kabirmeitei1087
@kabirmeitei1087 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Haokip is communal and brainless.... Meitei community didn't build major projects, government hospital, government school... blaming a community for major projects is fool...it's all done by law makers, politician,... He is uneducated..he thinks Meitei community build those government hospital, government school and other projects...this is how haokip and some other leaders spread communal hatred to their innocent young generation... their is nothing to bring Meitei here in relation with major projects...have you seen Meitei community build government hospital? Mr. haokip is such a communal minded leader...Kuki community please build a space station ...we won't say kuki people get lion share by building space station in their areas ... such a communal minded leader and his followers also support his because he said Meitei community got lion share ...if u are educated then you will know projects,programmes, development are all done by law makers but not the particular community...keep supporting your uneducated leader
@onminlalmate8508
@onminlalmate8508 3 жыл бұрын
@@kabirmeitei1087 in response to the mega projects not build in the hills, it is the MLAs who decide in the assembly where the hills have only 20 on 60 which is one-third . So when a vote is taken there is no chance for the hills to win the vote in the assembly. And again by 45 and 55 percent logic on the population, the hills should get 27 MLAs which now the hills have only 20 MLAs and the valley with 55 percent should have only 33 MLAs have 40 MLAs. This is the root cause of all problems and thus the Lionshare
@kabirmeitei1087
@kabirmeitei1087 3 жыл бұрын
@@onminlalmate8508 first know the constitution of India ...then u will know about the allotment of seats and constituencies ...what u are talking is base on your thoughts ..let a lawyer or a judge read your comment they know better about the constitution of India and the seats allotment..they will laugh at you ..what you are talking is base on your own allotment of seats system...u don't know what's there in the law ...and you are still saying the valley people or the Meitei community did this allotment of seats in the Manipur legislative assembly .. your 55% 40 % whatever...u think Manipur people or according to you ,the Meitei community can make laws ..that's funny ...the lion share is used by your representative when the general election is near and spread all these things in order to gain voters ...there is no lion share ...all are equal ...u have ST benifits everything is free..even education is free and u get scholarship for being ST ..and we don't have , nothing is free for us..that's how law give us equal opportunity... blame your leaders they get equal funds when our representative get 10 crore .. your representative also get that same 10 crore...that fund is enough for the development of a particular area...ask ur representative... Meitei community is very busy struggling for the living ..some are labours some are drivers, teachers, farmers, they don't have time for equality inequality and that driver can't build a government hospital it's the law makers they built...so don't blame a particular community.. your leaders blame Meitei community when they need money and support from the people, making people fools ...only fools will say Meitei got lion share and that's fool is also make by their own leader ...that's brainless
@onminlalmate8508
@onminlalmate8508 3 жыл бұрын
@@kabirmeitei1087 2001 delimitation was blocked and again 2011 delimitation which is ordered by the president is again taking the same.course because the valley would lose around 5 to 6 MLAs .. and according to the constitution sharing of MLAs is in accordance with proportional representation which means that the Hills would get 27 by now. And if all MLAs were to get 10 crores each , Thangmeiband AC with just 20k to25K population and an area of few sq km is very easy to maintain while the hill MLAs would maintain 45k to 60k population and 7 to 8 times the size of a valley AC
@leitanthemgiju9548
@leitanthemgiju9548 3 жыл бұрын
Take off article 371 c. We will build a Smart City in hill .
@khaidoungel5204
@khaidoungel5204 3 жыл бұрын
Hill people dont need smart city, Instead Hill people wants to live with dignity. We dont want someone to rule over us.
@leitanthemgiju9548
@leitanthemgiju9548 3 жыл бұрын
@@khaidoungel5204 not an intelligent respond. No one is ruling u
@madagascarmgm4593
@madagascarmgm4593 3 жыл бұрын
Smart city for whom??? Thats the basic question.
@leitanthemgiju9548
@leitanthemgiju9548 3 жыл бұрын
@@madagascarmgm4593 I don't query. It's just my opinion. City for all
@madagascarmgm4593
@madagascarmgm4593 3 жыл бұрын
@@leitanthemgiju9548 but thats a very serious issue in India,Manipur in particular...city for all. As you can see even here the educated penalist here get personal and sentimental in just a talk show. city For all is far away
@Anticipation-24
@Anticipation-24 3 жыл бұрын
Haokip shut meiteis mouth. And second point Mr. Wasbir ur channel is very official, so a piece of advice for u, that do not invite who are no qualify knowing of fact history. They will give u or whole Indian a chaos knowledge.
@mahousagimami3711
@mahousagimami3711 3 жыл бұрын
Nagalim and kukiland is impossible If union of India break the territory of manipur india will also breaking into many piece's India should remember that in South East Asia the First democratic nation is manipur.
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
Useless land
@priyangkamoirangthem7821
@priyangkamoirangthem7821 3 жыл бұрын
@@James_hero1 go here u think unless land un civilize
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
@@priyangkamoirangthem7821 most civilised writing skills
@VarchalUchiha
@VarchalUchiha 3 жыл бұрын
Yam kanba manle ngse... yam kanba oiradi lou khoi u... kangleipak superman😂
@Rahulits85e68hlxigi
@Rahulits85e68hlxigi Жыл бұрын
In this Era we need no more futher division,our focus is aspire and promote harmony among our society. Everyone is talking and pursing the root of their identity,but whats really we need to address in this situation is whether a everyone is a true citizen of India.
@jameskajiche8159
@jameskajiche8159 3 жыл бұрын
Just a question to Athuan Abonmei, Are you Manipuri or Naga?
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
Those wannabe naga are requested to submit the form before last date of form submission is over, nagaland govt has already started the process but for some unknown reason it has been put on hold
@Bob-lz2cs
@Bob-lz2cs 3 жыл бұрын
Forgive him. He's confused. 😅
@Bob-lz2cs
@Bob-lz2cs 3 жыл бұрын
@@surjakantasingh4287 lol.. Bring the facts. We don't need rumours and assumptions here.
@zingtai7426
@zingtai7426 3 жыл бұрын
Athuan should go home and do some business instead of getting into political discussions. What is the provocation NSCN IM had made to Meiteis? Poor Athuan
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bob-lz2cs I am stating the fact, some civil society organizations are demanding the nagaland govt to change the last date or cut off date, fool its for you to check for it, while you are dreaming original naga are already preparing to counter any influx of duplicate naga like you
@ANI-wu1zi
@ANI-wu1zi 3 жыл бұрын
This four panelists are not the authority to settled any issues araising in Manipur so they should control the temper when expressing the opinion of theirs own because everybody is watching no one should throw petrol to the fire .
@lalpuhaokip4323
@lalpuhaokip4323 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
Sovereign state is only kangleipak. All the villages on the hill are independent.
@rickmeitei4396
@rickmeitei4396 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahhahaha nagaland and word nagas was born 60yrs back.
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickmeitei4396 go back to Punjab boy
@luwang6136
@luwang6136 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha Kangleipak include even Kabaw valley...Burmese took permission from Nehru to call it their territory.I will only say about Kings( person )and kingdom known historically even by Ahom,Konbaung dynasty and Takhel(Tripura)....Naga is a termed coined by British read authentic historical books...You ignorants are mocking a once sovereign nation with unique religion,script,historical records,territory respected by international treaty that existed before Republic of India was born...
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
@@luwang6136 no nagas is nor are they denying the fact that meiteis had MaharAja. We are saying your mAharaja didn't rule the hill people nor does he own an inch of land in the hills. KAwbaw valley is not my or nagas people business. When meiteis land is not included in indo-naga peace talk, stay the fuck out of it.
@toothfairy6176
@toothfairy6176 3 жыл бұрын
My respects to Mr Haokip and Mr Wasbir for being fabulous.
@sconmia4758
@sconmia4758 3 жыл бұрын
Abonmai so coward to speak da truth. If u wanna be mmanipuri it's ok. Naga's hate ur speech.
@sagapamkeshav2385
@sagapamkeshav2385 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Wasbir get proff Xavier Mao seated with GB Kahuto Chishi.
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen one discussion on NorthEast live recently, check for it on youtube , clearly the difference between original and fake naga is shown there🙂
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
They are in no way going to be accepted as original product, maybe for the time being they are using fake product, that's it, nothing else
@sagapamkeshav2385
@sagapamkeshav2385 3 жыл бұрын
This Proffesor is being a 'useful idiot' .
@barackobama6512
@barackobama6512 3 жыл бұрын
Meitei and Naga can't be unite. No need to negotiate, I support Naga
@ratanchab5660
@ratanchab5660 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha now the time has come tht even Barack Obama the then prez of "UNITED"states wants to disintegrate manipur....not United but disintegrate..but Manipur is Manipur and will remain as it is
@luwang6136
@luwang6136 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha fake profile of a kuki lol
@rickmeitei4396
@rickmeitei4396 3 жыл бұрын
What benefit meiteis are getting jus explain me mr mao?.Meiteis are not allow to settle in hills whereas meiteis welcome nagas and kukis to settle in valley.Many tribals are constructing hotels mansion and living happily.Even tribals are getting many quotas than meiteis.Even maos are allow to sell vegetables in kohima whereas meiteis arranged mao market in imphal
@onminlalmate8508
@onminlalmate8508 3 жыл бұрын
The meiteis are getting the benefits of 1.more MLAs where with just 55 percent along with all valley residents of the population they should have got just 33 MLAs but have 40 MLAs and the hills is short of 7 MLAs which does many harm in law making. 2. Economic centre being the capital 3. Developments as in education, roads, hospitals, electricity etc 4. More new development projects like NSU You don't welcome the hills to Imphal . We coming to imphal is small price you pay for the being the capital. How do you expect to run a state if you forbid people for entering. And inorder to avoid many influxes in the valley, the hill people are demanding 6th schedule which the valley people again objects
@sklu309
@sklu309 3 жыл бұрын
@@onminlalmate8508 have u ever heard of proportional representative system of India?
@solomonasoya1105
@solomonasoya1105 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Xavier Mao excellent.
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
Profoolsion mao ze cow dung
@brucewayne269
@brucewayne269 3 жыл бұрын
excellent donkey 🐴🐴
@vidya008
@vidya008 3 жыл бұрын
What Republic.?.why they give taxes to meitei King
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
No 1 gives tax to kings
@luwang6136
@luwang6136 3 жыл бұрын
@@James_hero1 lies will not work here....or if you are a new manipuri you might not know the history of Manipur or how Manipur became a part of india...
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
@@luwang6136 idk about meitei
@luwang6136
@luwang6136 3 жыл бұрын
@@James_hero1 Lol stay like that stop acting you know things...rumours aggenda and facts are never the same
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
@@luwang6136 meitei getting angry😂😂...most civilised community of world😥😥😂😂
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
Meiteis should not force the manipuri identity to the hill people.
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
Fool, preserve your identity
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
@@surjakantasingh4287 you better preserve yours. Hindu people came and converted you all. Gave up all your cultures and took on to bangalee culture. Binduwala. Stop using and stealing HAO'S LUIREM. Wear dhoti and be contend. Lastly, fake meiteis SINGH go back to punjab
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 fool, we are still preserving and nurturing our roots, what about you? All gone and vanish? Nakali/duplicate/ traitor now is the right time to come to your sense before its too late, before original naga shame you in front of all and that we dont want, your children and grandchildren will carry the stigma of their fathers being duplicate naga and traitor. So try and stop being a nonsense to the whole northeast
@arkaysam803
@arkaysam803 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't consider yourself Manipuri then go to Nagaland
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
@@surjakantasingh4287 duplicate or original naga is not for manipuri's to decide. Be contend with your Manipur(kangleipak) and eat puri or else you go back to Punjab.
@leishisan
@leishisan 3 жыл бұрын
Sir Xavier Mao you nail it. Proud of you
@leletipiham8156
@leletipiham8156 Жыл бұрын
But if the meitei government has good hearts, there will be no such different feelings
@__kagami4293
@__kagami4293 3 жыл бұрын
What is zeliangrong baudi?? The abonmai is the only person in that organisation..
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!😂 Abonmai loves eating puris, his favorite food. We should never forget that.😂
@rickmeitei4396
@rickmeitei4396 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about lion share meitei is the one communities in manipur who pays income tax.
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
Sure because meitei are whole share
@keishamsanatombi4753
@keishamsanatombi4753 3 жыл бұрын
@@James_hero1 so y r u tribal peoole saying lion share shame on u wannabe lost tribe 😊
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
@@keishamsanatombi4753 babydoll is getting angry 😂😂😂
@keishamsanatombi4753
@keishamsanatombi4753 3 жыл бұрын
@@James_hero1 haha lost tribe 😊
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
@@keishamsanatombi4753 lost tribe is... Africal tribe + mayang = meitei
@CR06_73
@CR06_73 3 жыл бұрын
Good job, Pu T Haokip.
@Aj-lw1ej
@Aj-lw1ej 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to ask but is Mr Athuan Abonmoi (President, ZELIANGRONG BAUDI) making any point in this discussion.? 🤔🙄
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
You will know when the clock strike 12
@ratanchab5660
@ratanchab5660 3 жыл бұрын
They stay comfortably enjoying their people's share in imphal in the name of the innocent villagers , so obviously when they return back wht they will answer and how they will defend themselves from the innocent villagers .......by playing communal cards .......
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
Who's share???
@truthhurts450
@truthhurts450 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 cant you see with your eyes...
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 Activist abducted, tortured by NSCN-Isak Muivah faction for filing RTI application in Manipur An attempt to expose the misappropriation of development funds in Senapati district, proved very costly for Kh. Enoch, a social activist from lower Phaibung village of Manipur. Enoch along with P. Johnson of Taphon Phymai Village in Senapati district had sought information under RTI act on the dispersal of funds for various development projects, carried out by Autonomous District Council. A sizable chunk of the funds meant for all Nagas were allegedly embezzled by some corrupt ADC members in collusion with senior leaders of NSCN/Isak-Muivah faction, and used for personal gain. On January 20, armed cadres of the NSCN-Isak Muivah faction abducted Enoch and tortured him for daring to file an RTI in the matter. They kept him locked up for around 10 days at some unknown location and pressured him with death threats to withdraw the RTI.
@adolftherednosed9033
@adolftherednosed9033 3 жыл бұрын
Zeliangrong representative is uttering total nonsense. Tongmang Haokip not getting enough time. Noney is very well spoken. Athouba is stuck in the past.
@watchonly7675
@watchonly7675 3 жыл бұрын
Right 👍
@moirangthemloyangamba
@moirangthemloyangamba 3 жыл бұрын
Xiveir moa's view of denying the existence of history of Manipur started from 33AD based on the fact of starting of histroy writing in India in colonial period is none sense becuase he's unable to understand the difference between history and history writing.Shameful to have such inability in his status of being a professor.Writting history means constructing history based on the historical evidences available.So, history writting started in colonial period doesn't mean history began from that period.That's why there is ancient as well as medival history of India despite the fact that history writting began from colonial period in india.Likewise, studying available evidence & records we are able to scientifically construct a history of manipur begining from 33AD. This's what Athouba mean which xavier considers none sense shamefully out of his own weak cognitive faculty. In fact, there is a royal chronicle of Manipur called cheitharol kumbaba whose recording began way back in 33AD
@ratanchab5660
@ratanchab5660 3 жыл бұрын
Haha loya I think he is limited edition prof
@SekriisiiroAgnes
@SekriisiiroAgnes 25 күн бұрын
Bible was the first printing book... renaissance period, nothing else before that!
@haopuhaokip1217
@haopuhaokip1217 Жыл бұрын
all this problem is created by NSCN IM.. and it should be.. until and unless the three major community had seperate administration this problem will go on
@cplgwangta
@cplgwangta 3 жыл бұрын
Very true what kuki have said
@mhaokip1685
@mhaokip1685 Жыл бұрын
I think this is discussion athouba u have no authority to force someone apologize
@chumthang831
@chumthang831 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a truth speech by Dr. Noni. Thanks for good n facts historical story.
@ningzakymkym7697
@ningzakymkym7697 Жыл бұрын
We are in Manipur but we are not manipuri we still tribal
@th.gourakishoresingh8811
@th.gourakishoresingh8811 3 жыл бұрын
Manipur is a state where many communities are settling together. Manipur has 2000 years of history. Meitei king ruled the state. So, any group of community cannot creat a separate administration in the state. It is just like mini India.
@inaochasingh5652
@inaochasingh5652 Жыл бұрын
Dr Noni good good 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌 great leader
@theingenious8197
@theingenious8197 3 жыл бұрын
Well said Mr haokip
@pakang2832
@pakang2832 Жыл бұрын
Outer Manipur not Inner Manipu.r outer Manipur coverby. 90% is called Tribal own Land.
@deeptiroy2973
@deeptiroy2973 3 жыл бұрын
Why only hate speech Mr. Xavier Mao? So much of hatred and grudge...
@thangjangangoi376
@thangjangangoi376 3 жыл бұрын
Paid by nscn im tats d main reason😉
@priyangkamoirangthem7821
@priyangkamoirangthem7821 3 жыл бұрын
All r unless voice we r manipuri u don't think go here u all r not origin think ur self before history next time hahaha
@deeptiroy2973
@deeptiroy2973 3 жыл бұрын
@@priyangkamoirangthem7821 meiteilon da adum haibirak o ei Gyan tadre. Ei Meitei ne. Eina piriba comment se video se full yenglaga pikhiba comment ne.
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
@@priyangkamoirangthem7821 msg received but with some jitters😁
@Bob-lz2cs
@Bob-lz2cs 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.... Hard to digest the truth coming out of him huhh.. Well, face it. Not many speak boldly like him anymore.
@hurle1000
@hurle1000 3 жыл бұрын
There was no Manipur before the formation of state called Manipur under Indian Union. Particularly we Nagas didn't even know or hear about manipuri, Nagas & Kuki were become manipuri by circumstances & not by blood nor by choice.
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
You know how to use technology, why not you google it, see if you can find some old map of manipur
@lazyme6662
@lazyme6662 3 жыл бұрын
There was no terminology call Naga before British invasion, It was a British colonial construct. For instance before the colonial influence, the various tribes in the region fight among themselves. And head hunting was one prominent way of showing the pride of the conquistador during those days. Afterall the idea of "naga nation" is a result of the British colonial construct which is very much biased and divisive among the NE region of present day India which further polarised the already highly ethnocentric communities in the region. This colonial legacy adopted by some particular groups in the region plays a keys role for further disintegration /dissolution or division of various ethnic groups which leads to greater turmoil in the region.
@arkaysam803
@arkaysam803 3 жыл бұрын
Manipur Kingdom you idiot
@gskd69
@gskd69 3 жыл бұрын
Wasbir GD totally wrong..why? Each and every community have different traditional and culture,unique history and their kingdom. Who said about identity? We have unique identity as well as different from other community. Whatever they said they don't know 'The Truth' as well as No Meaningful about Truth in their language. I want to discuss with ('Athouba' useless person'). He is the criminal in this universe. 100 % truth.
@arkaysam803
@arkaysam803 3 жыл бұрын
@@gskd69 Separatist gi to Hell
@Solomonways
@Solomonways 3 жыл бұрын
Manipuri specifically means Meiteis living in the valley NOT the whole people living in the Manipur state
@rickmeitei4396
@rickmeitei4396 3 жыл бұрын
Wy tribals wants to live in valley wen meiteis are not allow to settle in hills
@arkaysam803
@arkaysam803 3 жыл бұрын
Then go to Pakistan
@ratanchab5660
@ratanchab5660 3 жыл бұрын
Solomon then u also taking refuge in Manipur ?u know wht Manipur comprises of .....tangkhul land , mao land, kukiland zeliangland,rongmeiland , pangal land ,maate land,kimboi land, nepaliland ,gorkha land,....so much and so forth u can also demand ur land but cannot disintegrate it with ur evil , hatred mongering ideas
@truthhurts450
@truthhurts450 3 жыл бұрын
Some people swear by their god that earth is flat. But the truth is all there to see now. Buddy, the truth won't change by what you or anyone wish to be... People residing in Manipur is called as Manipuri. As simple as that..
@Chinglemba1000
@Chinglemba1000 3 жыл бұрын
Dear fellow brother, time to introspect your views on, the very idea of Manipuri Identity. Time to learn some hard to swallow historical facts & trace your fore father's ancestry, count the generations you have settled on this land, stop the inferiority complex syndrome, since Indian independence, enough constitutional safeguards has already been given to our tribal brothers, don't get fooled and carried away by an aspirations which does no good for the generations to come. It's for us to decide how we should coexist so that our childrens are proud of the so called United Manipur a manipuri Identity.. Seems like we have forgotten the song, "Hing min nac eikhoi ' it's still available in KZbin... Don't divide this beautiful land, Sana Leibak.. An appeal to all concern to hold our horses & come to our senses... Let's get realistic & workout on the economics of development.. Thank you all
@mathewgonmei3736
@mathewgonmei3736 3 жыл бұрын
There's no manipuri king it's a meitei king we naga don't know who's the king of manipuri??
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
There is an international treaty called The treaty of yandaboo
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
And nagaland govt has already notified the last date of form submission for becoming naga but for some reason it has been put on hold, so before the last date you better submit your otherwise no further request will be entertained, It is mention in the notice also
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
Borther don't spew hatred on me. But this is from a nagaland based newspaper - easternmirrornagaland.com/manipur-kings-monolith-discovered-in-kohima/
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
Bro Manipuri mean meitei so didn't doubt
@sleeping8884
@sleeping8884 3 жыл бұрын
We don kwn who is naga in Manipur same.. we kwn tangkhul Mao maram rongmei etc
@Therock-tx9bw
@Therock-tx9bw 3 жыл бұрын
When the census tribal and manipiri meitei population ratio is 40: 42 but the constituency representative is meitei 40 and all tribal 20.
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
There are many non-meitei and also non-tribal communities. E.g. manipuri nepali > 90000 population etc. Why you didn't count that. Also hill districts have ADC setup. Look at CCPUR district. It has 24 elected ADC representatives. They are paid salary using tax payer money. Sometimes you want your UNIQUE HISTORY setup and sometimes you want general community setup when it suits you. You cannot have both. Choose one wisely. Also modi govt wants a unified system for whole country (not plethora of mumbo jumbo in every nook and corner). He started with GST (unified tax law), 370 abbrogation, NRC, CAA etc. Soon there will be uniform laws and administrative setup for whole country.
@loveatfirstfright9535
@loveatfirstfright9535 3 жыл бұрын
Hey xavier Mao why do you participate in this discourse if you r not a manipuri, mr identity crisis, this discussion is about Manipur. You are a perfect definiton of "ignominy". What a shame.
@Aj-lw1ej
@Aj-lw1ej 3 жыл бұрын
I think Anyone has the right to participate and express thier view.one cannot deny that.
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
16:29 height of sarcasm, but professor being a donkey doesnt feel ashamed
@Aj-lw1ej
@Aj-lw1ej 3 жыл бұрын
@@surjakantasingh4287 huh! That's offensive keep that to yourself.
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aj-lw1ej message received
@SekriisiiroAgnes
@SekriisiiroAgnes 25 күн бұрын
This person is voting out dirty, envious of Prof. Pity😅!
@sangmuan3264
@sangmuan3264 3 жыл бұрын
Manipuri=Meiteis.Period. Tribals are not Manipuris we are Manipur tribals
@ratanchab5660
@ratanchab5660 3 жыл бұрын
Yah not Nagaland tribal or Mizoram tribal jst Manipur tribal👍
@hriata5384
@hriata5384 3 жыл бұрын
We were never Manipur tribe we have our own kingdom during zhou dynasty and tang dynasty...the thado kingdom one of the three main kingdom of burma ...
@hriata5384
@hriata5384 3 жыл бұрын
@YANG LEE KEI I'm boy....😑😑
@hriata5384
@hriata5384 3 жыл бұрын
@YANG LEE KEI yes....my username.... It's obvious😅😅
@blackpepper7241
@blackpepper7241 3 жыл бұрын
Identity always divides... Every communities has its own ethnic identity And they will do whatever necessary to protect it.... A nation should not be built on the basis of ethnic identity...A new definition of the Manipuri Identity should be "Integration of all indeginious people of Manipur aspiring for a common vision of conscious and impartial development through mutual understanding. "
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
That's your opinion. Hill people don't eat puri nor are they Manipuri.
@lsmeetei6503
@lsmeetei6503 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 and this is ur views, no problem u express views and we express our views and u try to pull ur views & we r also doing the same.....
@inaochasingh5652
@inaochasingh5652 Жыл бұрын
Athouba pl continue iam proud of you
@wiwonglan5748
@wiwonglan5748 3 жыл бұрын
Abonmei or Zeliangrong may be Manipuri other Nagas tribe will be always Naga.
@surjakantasingh4287
@surjakantasingh4287 3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of your tribe?
@truthhurts450
@truthhurts450 3 жыл бұрын
Who is a naga??
@kabirmeitei1087
@kabirmeitei1087 3 жыл бұрын
Naga can go to the land of naga ..so called Nagaland ..if u think you r refugee here in Manipur
@zuzuisu5708
@zuzuisu5708 3 жыл бұрын
@@kabirmeitei1087 this land belongs to us...... N how dare u say so about our community.... We can peaceful leave with our land....
@zuzuisu5708
@zuzuisu5708 3 жыл бұрын
@@truthhurts450 nagas are tribals of nagalim..... Uneducated manipuri 🙄🙄🙄
@ManipurParty
@ManipurParty Жыл бұрын
MANIPUR HAS A GOVERNMENT OF ITS OWN FOR MORE THAN 2 THOUSAND YEARS WHIS IS UNAVAILABLE EVEN IN INDIA AS A WHOLE. NSCN IM IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE BELONGING TO NAGALAND NOT MANIPUR. THAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR ALL.
@gagarinayekpam8704
@gagarinayekpam8704 3 жыл бұрын
No one can break manipur territorial integrity
@josephpsingson1700
@josephpsingson1700 Жыл бұрын
Your father told you that
@moirangthemmanoranjan5834
@moirangthemmanoranjan5834 3 жыл бұрын
I have friends from different communities I have muslim, kuki,naga and many other friends from different communities we belong to manipur we'll contribute towards building our motherland a better place . This and that whose and whom where and how is too complicated ,its just a waste of time this place has room for everyone. There was never a need to divide a separate land for naga for kuki for meitei and all tbh we the younger generation don't really think its necessary to draw lines one the map. We are here in manipur all the community who lives in manipur are all manipuri. We're all gonna die some day and we're just leaving behind sharpened blades for our generations to kill each other. Stay safe brothers and sisters in hills🙌🏻.
@kamhauluntaithul378
@kamhauluntaithul378 Жыл бұрын
A bifurcation is as inevitable as death if not now one day if not by the Kukis, it would be through the Nagas
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
This is a excerpt from a popular newspaper from eastern india. I get the same vibe in this discussion Last year I met two important Nagas of Manipur. One hailed from Ukhrul and was an academic before becoming a minister and the other was a cabinet minister in numerous ministries in Manipur. To the second one, who hailed from Senapati district, I asked “Tell me what wrong have the Meiteis have done to the Nagas so as to blame them for all the ills of the community. And as a former PWD minister you know that there exists a Tribal Sub-Plan in the planning documents of the state and also that all contract works in the Naga areas were only given to the Nagas.” He laughed and said, “If we don’t blame the Meiteis for our plight what else can we tell them while asking for votes.”
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
More ... To the academic-turned-politician, I recollected how during my tenure as a member of the State Human Rights Commission, I had toured Ukhrul and registered over 20 cases in two days all relating to cases of non-completion of school buildings, road constructions abandoned half-way and, dispensary buildings left incomplete. And while issuing notices to the state authorities over these issues relating to Right to Education, Healthcare, good communication, sanitation and safe drinking water, we had specifically asked them to include the names of the contractors concerned to whom these tasks were initially handed over to. Then, I told him that all the contractors turned out to be local Tangkhuls who had made their fast bucks and left the area to settle down in Imphal.
@kckangleireaction2553
@kckangleireaction2553 3 жыл бұрын
Meitei consider naga kuki Meitei are same they are brothers . please our brothers naga and kuki we are the same ancestry
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
Because meiteis sharmiyas, Singh, chaudhary, etc wants land in the hills
@James_hero1
@James_hero1 3 жыл бұрын
Because of wants to loot hill funds
@keishamsanatombi4753
@keishamsanatombi4753 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 who are sharmayas, chaudhary,singh ??
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
@@keishamsanatombi4753 all meiteis
@keishamsanatombi4753
@keishamsanatombi4753 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 haha my last name is mangang, do u see any indian name in my last name.?! Please shut ur mouth!!
@khaidoungel5204
@khaidoungel5204 3 жыл бұрын
Pu.T.Haokip spoke well. Its true. What big project is done in the hills? meitei bros..No answer. Therefore meitei brother is lying. No territorial council, No rest hill areas. Even Nagaland naga told him keep cool. Dont be emotional. Please respect your elders. This is the reason why nagas wanting to seperate from meiteis.
@neymaridolmanipur9190
@neymaridolmanipur9190 3 жыл бұрын
go back refugees
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest example - INR 12,524 crore railway line project. 90% of which is in hill districts including multiple stations. Tamenglong orange will get a big boost for export to neighbouring states. Heard lot of kidnap stories (rumour or truth? please clarify). Sad that no progressive minds like you ever condemn these anti-development activities for such mega projects.
@sleeping8884
@sleeping8884 3 жыл бұрын
Fool... What is main behind not doing mega projects in hill area Case 1= population.. Imphal valley population is more 60pc in Manipur case 2= undisturbed in project case 3= cannot do without authority village head or something case4= ask to ur MLA
@khaidoungel5204
@khaidoungel5204 3 жыл бұрын
@@neymaridolmanipur9190 Meiteis by signing the agreement they became refugees in manipur.😃😂 While kukis and nagas did not sign the agreement. They should be given 6th shedule status.
@lsmeetei6503
@lsmeetei6503 3 жыл бұрын
@@khaidoungel5204 meitei sign the agreement representing whole manipur, if u want 6 th schedule why u oppose to meitei's st demand
@Aj-lw1ej
@Aj-lw1ej 3 жыл бұрын
The question of any big project in the hill from mr Haokip came like a havoc.there is outmost silent for a while untill the our respected anchor give a wake-up call.and in case if there is any, I don't think that person to ans will have the slightest hesitancy to point it out. but the irony is that the big question have been deflected to Delhi metro after a serious thought from that limited time.i don't think this deflecting attitude will serve any good.i think it's time for some people to admit and accept the reality.because manipur is a very clear picture where it vividly display the gap of infrastructure development between the valley and hills. the hill areas of the so call sanalaibak lack so many basic infrastructure.no police station for several km radius,disfunctional phc,govt school,higher secondary,colleges concentration almost negligible as compare to the valley area.,no banking service,basic water supply,irrigation,connectivity and what not? for instance one will even start to doubt the existence of governance in some part of this areas.just visit and see for yourself. this could be a hint why mr mao stress on the issue that unless the lopsided distribution of seat in the SLA and rational distribution of development is taken up, the tribal population may keep nursing their grievances.to my opinion this discontentment has lead to the present scenario of so many ethnocentric movement out of this small boiling pot called Manipur.all this culminating to a state of breaking off anytime feasible.and that no force will be able to stop if any people dislike the condition imposed on him..history has it's proof,apartheid in africa,abolishing of slavery in America,laws against casteism in india,against colonialism, thy are all victorious. therefore men will eventually move out of the condition he dislike and time will give ways. Well the solution may not lie on accusing one another but finding ways to defuse those discontentment could atleast bring some arrangements for peaceful coexistence.
@tonycapricon4620
@tonycapricon4620 3 жыл бұрын
Naga can form greater nagaland, kuki can form kukiland. We the Meitei people want only ST quota...to get central job.. as other tribal brothers cant get job even though they got ST quota... Just give ST quota to meitei...thats it.
@lalpuhaokip4323
@lalpuhaokip4323 3 жыл бұрын
We will give you in Kuki state... wait patiently 😄🤣
@kamsiam2412
@kamsiam2412 Жыл бұрын
Mr Wasbir, if Biren Singh is to be believed in saying this war is between illegal immigrants and govt. Is Hoihnu Hauzel and her father well renowned anthropologist of the tribal too illegal immigrants as they lost their home in Paite Veng Imphal.
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
Single biggest project in manipur as of date - INR 12,524 crore railway line project. 80-90% of which is spent in hill districts including multiple stations in hill districts. Tamenglong orange will get a big boost for export to neighbouring states.
@zingtai7426
@zingtai7426 3 жыл бұрын
That's because it is the only possible way to bring railway track to Manipur
@onminlalmate8508
@onminlalmate8508 3 жыл бұрын
This is like the British Colonial government saying we gave India trains and railways . Btw how do you think of bridging Imphal with the rest of the country via railways without crossing the hills of manipur
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
@@onminlalmate8508 your small mindset will not allow you to progress beyond ethnic lines. Indian govt thinks big and is looking for 21st century trade and commerce with east asian countires. This asian rail line will extend all the way from vietnam to turkey and is funded by big organizations.
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
@@zingtai7426 Yeah and that is exactly the same reason why govt is spending 700+ cr in imphal intl airport modernization and not spending that money in Ukhrul. Big planes cannot land on top of hills.
@alsonngambom09
@alsonngambom09 Жыл бұрын
Why is a single guest from tangkhul community not invited
@dontlie2389
@dontlie2389 3 жыл бұрын
Valley for all and hill for tribe only😀why 😂.
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
Did any hill people forced meiteis to sell their land???😡😡 For the love of money meiteis did it willingly. Don't force us to do sell land to you.
@sgyn7606
@sgyn7606 3 жыл бұрын
Yay, Delhi for all, but every state is not for Delhi.
@tonyhawk6280
@tonyhawk6280 3 жыл бұрын
@@sgyn7606 who is stopping you?? Demand ilp for delhilites.
@kabirmeitei1087
@kabirmeitei1087 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 why do tribals want to buy land in the valley? Why do tribals always spread communal thought to their youths and their generations? Our elders taught us all communities living in Manipur are brothers and sisters...you can live In valley and you can have meal together with the Meitei people..but we don't want to go in hilly areas because we don't know the intention of your people ...what if we got beaten up by u and your friends...and you guys are very brave and strong in hilly areas ....have you heard this ...""nang angambara""... When we are outside during night in Ccpur and your people will ask "ang angambara" and beaten up with no reason...do you agree?? This is fact
@chinglenkhombayumlembam1672
@chinglenkhombayumlembam1672 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhawk6280 even if you sell your land,why can't we buy it??🤣
@Dariuskong
@Dariuskong Жыл бұрын
Athouba is only name sake 🤣🤣
@zingtai7426
@zingtai7426 3 жыл бұрын
We have not accepted Manipuri identity but it's just the acceptance of the fact that if you are in Manipur state the residence will be called Manipuri.
@kabirmeitei1087
@kabirmeitei1087 3 жыл бұрын
There is a way you can leave Manipuri identity..the way is you have to leave Manipur and go to where u belong...i heard that kuki tried this method of demanding land in Mizoram but failed ,from this discussion (u have missed Mizoram bus and now Nagaland bus also) and now demanding land in Manipur but we are not that bad ...till now there is no clash between Meitei and kuki ...so kukis are demanding land in the hope that they will get because Meitei are good, they won't say anything and they will say Meitei and kuki are brothers ,we will live together as Meitei always said ..so leave Manipur.......and if you are naga then leave Manipur and go to Nagaland your homeland...naga are refugees here in Manipur... ..enough sympathy
@hriata5384
@hriata5384 3 жыл бұрын
@@kabirmeitei1087 they place where kuki/zomi reside was never a part of Manipur..... Kangleipak or angthing..... Just because of British administration it come under Manipur....Mizo/chin/kuki land is from chin state burma to Mizoram and part of bangladesh and Manipur south hill area and tripura zampui hill too....before we were divided...
@ashikhodaili4436
@ashikhodaili4436 Жыл бұрын
SwitLand that is North East for World Peace with GOD in Jesus Christ Amen
@adahesibochachei8502
@adahesibochachei8502 3 жыл бұрын
Feel pity for mr.Athoiba, he was nimble and could talk normally after pro.Xavier nailed him
@adahesibochachei8502
@adahesibochachei8502 3 жыл бұрын
Athoiba cannot speak normally after pro. Xavier nailed him
@rickmeitei4396
@rickmeitei4396 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahhahha mao have no brain.He become the proffessor through quotas
@Bob-lz2cs
@Bob-lz2cs 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickmeitei4396 lol.. Quota is ur only excuse of accusing him 😅.
@Aj-lw1ej
@Aj-lw1ej 3 жыл бұрын
The "common people are willing" seems to be another vested interest statement by aouthouba .he can have a review at the least on the comments in this single platform.that will clearly trigger his conscience to ponder more.I think it will be wise for everybody not to speak with one own assumption and presumption.clearly there are so many resentment between each community in manipur.that is a bitter truth one should not try deny,rather all we need is to reason together because just denying the genuine grevancies may just continues to detterorate the already strain relation between us.personal view
@stephennaorem8178
@stephennaorem8178 3 жыл бұрын
Hinduism in Manipur started all this. The state should'nt be called Manipur. So I am trying to go fully traditional in every way. And the tribals should not get fully westernised, they should preserve their culture. Respect & preserving one's culture & tradition is also development. Be proud of what you are & from where you belong.
@ningzakymkym7697
@ningzakymkym7697 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting 👍
@rickmeitei4396
@rickmeitei4396 3 жыл бұрын
Churachandpur medical college going to construct in churachandpur.
@undoc755
@undoc755 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about big projects in hill locations, a big deterrent is Article 371c which doesn't allow valley people/potential investors from outside to buy land. And Manipur govt. is not so rich to have many big projects for townships of 20k-60k. Forget about big projects, even staffing of a college is a problem. A township of population less than 50000, will not be able to provide all the staff. So you need non-local staff. But then where will you settle them? Put them in a govt. quarter (non-existent) which doesn't even exist. People search for jobs where they can buy land, build a house and settle down. I have my doubts about the new hill medical college regarding staffing. Over a period of time you will need super specialist and researchers. If the local community can staff all of it, I am sincerely happy. But then the likes of Mao will start barking that it has been staffed from just one community.
@sangmuan3264
@sangmuan3264 3 жыл бұрын
After how many years of statehood?? You can count only 1 till date😀 😂😂 Lol so much for for your Manipurism
@lzrfocs3202
@lzrfocs3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@sangmuan3264 ICMR has guidelines for setting up medical college. You can't just set it up without attached hospital (200 bedded minimum... don't know exact number). Most district hospitals don't meet that criteria. Only recently CCpur hospital got upgraded to meet the criteria. And govt is not going to dump tax payer money to set up medical colleges in every nook and corner without proper infrastructure, intellectuals etc. available to properly man the college.
@sangmuan3264
@sangmuan3264 3 жыл бұрын
@@lzrfocs3202 why not upgrade the hospitals so that they meet the criterias. Or is it deliberately set up so that they never meet the required criteria. Or you meant to say that govt will be dumping money if it increase number of beds etc . So lives matter less than money?? Forget medical college for a minute What about sports university? Colleges and universities by state govt.?? Only in valley area. So can you tell me what criteria is needed again and how hills dont fulfilll criteria?? So many lands are available in the hills. This way govt won't be dumping money but saving money by acquiring lands at cheap prices in the hills compared to higher prices in the valleys
@lzrfocs3202
@lzrfocs3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@sangmuan3264 For govt. hospital I think tax money is involved and there will be equitable distribution of available resources. And it is not infinite resource which grows on tree. If lives are very important then even private hospitals can be built by community. Need not be just govt. hospital. Regarding 'So lives matter less than money??', I would ask the same thing in a different way. Why churches are being built at dime a dozen? (NOTE : I am not against any religion). Can that money be well spent for welfare of society/local community by building private hospitals. Need not blame the govt. for everything.
@Seilen-xr2ko
@Seilen-xr2ko Жыл бұрын
KUKI has never been a part of Manipur kingdom... Meitei lived in the valley while the KUKI lived in the hills... and that goes to the nagas, but there are not real nagas in Manipur as far as im concerned. The nagas in Manipur like the some tangkuls were slave of KUKI, while some are not...
@alecpatersen1847
@alecpatersen1847 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Mao and Mr.Hoakip speaks the truth. This mr.Aboumei must be ashamed for even calling himself a Naga. Empty vessel make much sounds is a clear example here with mr.Athouba. Mr.athouba can’t digest the truth and always pouring out anger when someone speak the truth as if like he himself own Manipur 😩😩
@lalpuhaokip4323
@lalpuhaokip4323 3 жыл бұрын
I agree... As long as there are leaders of Meetei community like Athouba, who is hellbent on any possible option put up by the tribals, problems in Manipur will fluorish
@minlienkuki8908
@minlienkuki8908 Жыл бұрын
Athouba is speechless hahahah😄😄😄😂😂😂 He also has no respect for seniors
@boboythounaojam5252
@boboythounaojam5252 3 жыл бұрын
Hats off to you Khuraijam Athouba Bravo
@karnajitlongjam4767
@karnajitlongjam4767 3 жыл бұрын
"Before British came Naga and Kuki are independent" 100pecent totally Wrong
@k_septembersolo4523
@k_septembersolo4523 3 жыл бұрын
Lol who ruled us Nagas then before Britishers ? Name 1 ?
@adolftherednosed9033
@adolftherednosed9033 3 жыл бұрын
Noney is very well spoken
@rajmai8052
@rajmai8052 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting being a Meitei I love what Abonmei has shouted
@uttamtayai4504
@uttamtayai4504 3 жыл бұрын
Salute you bro athouba and Sir Nony 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@soulflySneaky
@soulflySneaky Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, there is no Manipuri identity. Identities are divided by ethnic lines. Abonmei's statement - "we are manipuris" is true from a geographical point of view. There is no emotional connect to the "Manipuri" identity though.
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