The Many Issues With TDS Hardcore... (And How to Fix Them)

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Nedwardo

Nedwardo

Ай бұрын

I do not like Hardcore, it is not very good. But I know how I can make it good!
Thank you to Eggrypted and The Red Toppat for inspiration for this video, and thanks to Merf for help with the footage of Mecha Base and War Machine!
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@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
By the way, I have a speedrun competition ending 8 hours as of typing this. If you are quick you might still be able to take part! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYKUnp6Gr9CooKM
@Redhuski
@Redhuski Ай бұрын
I think I’ll take part
@Redhuski
@Redhuski Ай бұрын
If I have time
@user-yx5su6lf3v
@user-yx5su6lf3v Ай бұрын
Hmmmmm
@propellars
@propellars Ай бұрын
really cool video man, i propose we fix the hardcore problem by DELETING THE GAMEMODE FOREVER AHAHAHAA
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
The solution was there all along... Also thank you so much, my tds videos were mainly inspired by you so this means a lot to me :)
@lavnsma
@lavnsma Ай бұрын
dang both of you are my favorite youtubers, i remember watching nedwardos piggy videos
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
@@lavnsma damn you are an OG! 👑
@Jenaispasdinspi
@Jenaispasdinspi Ай бұрын
pripellars comment with only 1 like?! Bro fell off
@bat_rblx3916
@bat_rblx3916 11 күн бұрын
@@lavnsma what a chad fan
@Jackyanimations010
@Jackyanimations010 Ай бұрын
I'm not even kidding, I spent over 30 minutes looking for crossroads and even when I did get it these damned griefers that would get in a elevator, leave, then rejoin to do it over again... Hardcore has so many issues
@yesiplayrhythmdocter7814
@yesiplayrhythmdocter7814 Ай бұрын
Small or private servers
@Jackyanimations010
@Jackyanimations010 Ай бұрын
I don't have the robux to buy a private server and It's kinda ever server I joined idk if I'm that bad
@bt_gaming2828
@bt_gaming2828 Ай бұрын
Dude, it's so real. Although I have a private server, I still had to wait for like 20 minutes to find Crossroad. 💀
@md.anisulislam3513
@md.anisulislam3513 Ай бұрын
I can relate.
@beerite8326
@beerite8326 Ай бұрын
Just dont do crossroads, do wrecked or cyber, or just any other map, challenge yourself instead of sticking to the same lame strat each time
@generallyupsetfetus
@generallyupsetfetus Ай бұрын
Funny thing is, TDX's Endless mode proved that games can be long AND heavily rewarding AND fun AND incredibly difficult. I'm sure that even with the current design philosophy of Hardcore, the TDS devs could fairly easily make the mode better. Sadly, it's simply a relic of the hardcore update (for now), and is largely outdated- so of course it's the weakest part of TDS as it stands. But even the TDS devs have done this before themselves. Many events before Hardcore and after take maybe about 40-50ish minutes to realistically complete (Nuclear, Winter 2021, etc) and were/are at least challenging. Hardcore, I believe, is a product of the rushed development hell of 2019-2020 TDS went through.
@imincent1767
@imincent1767 Ай бұрын
Tdx 🤢🤢🤢
@Shereen3
@Shereen3 Ай бұрын
I second that. The TDX endless mode update was actually so fun despite its length. They definitely had a step in the right direction in the game. It kind of revived it too.
@AFnEFHdfATower-wx6kb
@AFnEFHdfATower-wx6kb Ай бұрын
@@imincent1767 they’re literally just mentioning and talking about TDX lol why r u attacking it
@normalguy4166
@normalguy4166 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure tds tried this back then but im not sure why they removed it
@TheCaptainBirbus
@TheCaptainBirbus Ай бұрын
​@@AFnEFHdfATower-wx6kbcuz its mid
@louiserathmill3472
@louiserathmill3472 Ай бұрын
If we Think About it, Hardcore is Really old came out back in 2020, and hasn’t been updated (Apart from maps) and maybe bug fixes. 1. They are planing to add Match making for hardcore (i think) 2. They might be revamping this mode. Just like what they did to normal. So maybe we can expect hardcore to actually be good, it’s a pain we’re there is no match making.
@bluenightrblx
@bluenightrblx Ай бұрын
They have a reason they don't want to add matchmaking. I just don't remember it. And for the rework. That'll probably be late 2024 or Mid - Later 2025.
@dibs6462
@dibs6462 28 күн бұрын
@@bluenightrblx why not?? would HEAVILY improve hardcore plays
@khylekim9551
@khylekim9551 25 күн бұрын
​​@@dibs6462they need revamp fallen molten first before hardcore
@Agent02826
@Agent02826 Ай бұрын
No.1 reason Its so outdated ,the hardcore enemies are very outdated and dont match with the new meta of the game
@darkery-benedictanimations268
@darkery-benedictanimations268 Ай бұрын
I found this video recently, it surprisingly and accurately addresses the issues with Hardcore with a more formal but still fun-to-watch take instead of the usual quick explanations that most new TDS Content Creators do, I see great potential, and I'll look forward to what issues you'll address next and great video dude!
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
Sorry bro I've decided to become wikiacolors now I'm gonna yap with text for 8 mins every video 🗣️🗣️🗣️ (Thank you so much!)
@darkery-benedictanimations268
@darkery-benedictanimations268 Ай бұрын
@@Nedward0 Heh, you're welcome.
@ABlueishNoob8149
@ABlueishNoob8149 27 күн бұрын
​@@darkery-benedictanimations268the animation lord is here
@user-yx5su6lf3v
@user-yx5su6lf3v Ай бұрын
Hardcore is so boring
@yesiplayrhythmdocter7814
@yesiplayrhythmdocter7814 Ай бұрын
That's because you can only play with a strat due to your skill issue
@cheezburger4836
@cheezburger4836 Ай бұрын
​@@yesiplayrhythmdocter7814 Strats are annoying especially with documents if you are a mobile player
@DarkEngineer90
@DarkEngineer90 Ай бұрын
Wave 26 - 49 are most boring part
@broxiner
@broxiner Ай бұрын
I use my own strategy so it's fun in my opinion
@happyfaced206
@happyfaced206 Ай бұрын
After you pass wave 25, yeah it gets boring
@sebitasgamer1839
@sebitasgamer1839 Ай бұрын
The devs will rework every gamemode, hardcore it's not the exception of that, in a point of this year we can play (maybe) a hardcore rework with new enemies and redesigns of the bosses.
@swampman5986
@swampman5986 Ай бұрын
Honestly the thing that gripes me with hardcore is that unlike any other mode in the game hardcore REQUIRES a strategy to beat or atleast make decent gems, i know strategies are used for other modes like nuclear wastelands but in those you can still bring a fair variety of towers at random, hardcore requires you to bring the same damn towers and pull up that stupid strat document and its not that hardcore is actually hard its just difficulty spikes and a crapload of bonus effects on zombies, you dont feel challenged just bored and angry
@Hyperlaser_Merc
@Hyperlaser_Merc 19 күн бұрын
I only played it to get accel (Hardcore update) and I hated it. It was insanly boring, frustrating and unenjoyable, after I got to 2000 Gems i was completely sick of it and just bought Gems. It got better but it still sucks. After some years i played it again to grind Necromencer and then Engineer, until the Commander Rework. It made it very difficult and made me unable to grind for Brawler and Engineer. I liked the rework of Commander, but i hated the consequenses of it on hardcore. Also I suck at Hardcore stratless since of the lack of experience, because of the reason named on top. When you need to use a strat doc to have the fastest way to grind, it shows that it isnt good. Golden crates are fine since its rather passive.
@endportex
@endportex Ай бұрын
Someone definitely needed to talk about this, great vid!
@womps17
@womps17 Ай бұрын
i won hardcore but a circuit didnt despawn and made us lose at the last second
@AYfunnygame
@AYfunnygame Ай бұрын
You make Good quality content for 1k subs. You're so underrated bro. Im subbed 🔥🔥
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@bat_rblx3916
@bat_rblx3916 Ай бұрын
0:32 very tds
@someuncreativerandomdumbguy69
@someuncreativerandomdumbguy69 28 күн бұрын
in my opinion, 50 waves is what makes the gamemode so interesting, you have to be really patient if you want to beat the gamemode because of the very long length
@goldenrichard9313
@goldenrichard9313 Ай бұрын
If they’re adding matchmaking for Hardcore, the design of the Voting Lobby should be something similar to 2020 Overhaul Hardcore Lobby.
@red_totality
@red_totality 10 күн бұрын
I'd rather sh** broken glass than grind TDS Hardcore mode. The SINGLE BEST thing to ever happen to it was the Match Restarting thingy making it faster to get gems, and that's currently bugged and the devs still HAVEN'T FIXED IT YET. In fact, they patched a Pizza Party coin grinding strat rather than AN ACTUAL BUG. Also I totally agree with these changes. One change to make dealing with lead balloons easier is honestly just giving gold mini flying detection (it has lead detection at level 3, so it'll make it useful instead of being a useless gold skin.)
@wooperO0
@wooperO0 Ай бұрын
honestly, this is fire, great editing, only thing to make it better is the mic quality, it peaks alot either way, good job :3
@rrounderr
@rrounderr Ай бұрын
Nice video! Very informative, keep up the good work! ❤
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@thedeepseacat
@thedeepseacat Ай бұрын
for me the current hardcore may have a lot of problem but it certainly is fun (for me and my friends at least) especially because the gameplay is longer and more chaotic than fallen mode and the other
@Redhuski
@Redhuski Ай бұрын
Hi, I agree hardcore really need matchmaking it would really make it more simple to beat it and grind
@arcitatious
@arcitatious Ай бұрын
Apart from the crate idea this video is spot on. An idea I always had was to have former event towers be paid with gems as locking gameplay behind FOMO bs and paywalls is very anti-consumer. People who have the tower achievement can maybe get an exclusive skin for the time they put in.
@arcitatious
@arcitatious Ай бұрын
I may also add that addings more maps wouldn't do to much as 90% of them are difficulty sliders instead of gameplay changers and the 10% that are unique are too difficult and are 2/3 of the special modes
@OakLastName
@OakLastName 28 күн бұрын
i think the complaint about tower choice is kinda weird , cuz theres a lot of variety in what you can pick (especially if youre trying to solo hardcore) but i think mooost of the other complaints are fair . especially the gems being useless thing cuz when you help 2 of ur friends get accel at different times it starts to get a little annoying not doing anything with them
@filippohl9097
@filippohl9097 Ай бұрын
Fallen sword man has code so old he BREAKS. Fallen King for some reason cant do anything else besides spinning.... Gravedigger is fine he works well. Molten boss dies too fast for me to notice if hes broken. Vindicators never break and Fallen titans work fine exept the shield ability.
@felixalger9301
@felixalger9301 Ай бұрын
Holy shit massive insane W good job mate
@bryanmaradona9531
@bryanmaradona9531 17 күн бұрын
Okay, this video REALLY makes the concept of hardcore better, but... I need to say, they should make the bosses(molten boss, fallen king, grave digger) different. For example, magmarouz Boss(Molten boss but stronger)
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 16 күн бұрын
that could be cool. Then again, since Hardcore is meant to be the "final boss of tds", from a narrative perspective it kind of feels fitting to have all the past enemies fight the players before confronting the void reaver.
@bryanmaradona9531
@bryanmaradona9531 16 күн бұрын
@@Nedward0 🤯
@az-bs9yg
@az-bs9yg Ай бұрын
Agree with most of the points. But to be fair the right way to top it all off would be leaning more into concept of "enemies having unique gimmicks that you have to find a way around ( for example something that can comepltely shut down your avarage "just spam more accels" strat )" type of hard rather than making them bullet sponges. We might already have lead and float traits that fit the concept to some extent, but they are insignificant to the point where you just forget about them (except maybe for lead balloon combo). As a nice bonus by making hardcore an actual challenge that requires more planning and MAYBE mechanical skill to prevent you from just cheesing it with a strat, you can make it award accelerator (or maybe even an engineer or some other gem towers if you add a way to justify such rewards) to solve issue with ungodly amounts of hardcore grinding. But since it would require to pretty much rework hardcore completely and would drop robux revenue by at best 80%, that wont happen 😄.
@CollectorBlox
@CollectorBlox 8 күн бұрын
For hardcore mode, one thing I hate is that there are too little elevators and it's hard to find the map we want. If somehow we can pick which map we want just like normal matches in hardcore mode it would be better! And they gotta fix the restart button like its so annoying how it shows but it doesn't work. And when I just did my first hardcore triumph that I just uploaded I didn't get my gems 😭
@taufikrigo
@taufikrigo 8 күн бұрын
They already fixed it (the restart button)
@CollectorBlox
@CollectorBlox 8 күн бұрын
@@taufikrigo it still doesnt work for me
@CollectorBlox
@CollectorBlox 8 күн бұрын
@@taufikrigo o wait now it works thanks cause yesterday it didnt
@user-mp8qg5tb5e
@user-mp8qg5tb5e Ай бұрын
I dunno if they added war machine in its current state I don’t think anyone would complain. It’s not like it’s too op cause it only gives a 20 percentage buff and it would give people something to grind for
@The_Productive
@The_Productive 27 күн бұрын
This is seriously a good idea hopefully below sees this and fix hardcore but the 50 waves will need to be keep
@Reversed_Life
@Reversed_Life Ай бұрын
They could make it so that you can continue going through another 10 waves to reach wave 50 for a boost in the gem/coin reward u get
@1nn0v
@1nn0v Ай бұрын
I think theres only a few maps in hardcore because the developers dont want solo hardcore to be possible on almost every map. For example, fungi island used to be in the map rotation but got deleted just by looking at how many people soloed hardcore on it. The issue with gems is definetly reasonable, after getting engineer and accelerator, gems have no use. Ive seen people with 20k gems, 50k, even some with 100k. If there was a special gem crate, that would be pretty cool
@Aquatic25
@Aquatic25 Ай бұрын
You could get consumables with gems so you actually always have a reason to get them instead of buying one time skins
@littletitanicmaster-2622
@littletitanicmaster-2622 Ай бұрын
thing was when hardcore released it checked off most of these while also being fun and hard 2 years later its impossible 1 year later the average tds devs nowadays always making everything incredibly easy and overpowered
@bluenightrblx
@bluenightrblx Ай бұрын
???
@togeluga_the_cat
@togeluga_the_cat 27 күн бұрын
3:47 lets be honest here, nobuddy is going to use either archer or sniper, electroschoker is not realy commonly used at all, and necromancer has to relly on either there allready being an executioner skeleton down the straight line of cross roads or you have to time the ability and pray to god the gravestone explosions hit the lead ballons (honestly necromancer should have lead detection, i see no reason why it shouldnt have it)
@TeddyJayaweera
@TeddyJayaweera Ай бұрын
The on,y problem I have with hardcore is it having only 2 elevators. It took me 20 minutes for me to get the cross roads map. If they make a separate area with multiple elevators for hardcore then it’s all good
@user-mp8qg5tb5e
@user-mp8qg5tb5e Ай бұрын
Getting the map y want is harder than actually beating hc
@TeddyJayaweera
@TeddyJayaweera Ай бұрын
@@user-mp8qg5tb5e ye 🤣
@ZombieRush22579
@ZombieRush22579 28 күн бұрын
I feel like the 50 waves gives it that extra 'Oh shit, there's more?' vibe to it. But everything else is justified (I literally don't play it anymore cuz it takes me 30 mins to find skilled players to hop in with me)
@okgoose3305
@okgoose3305 Ай бұрын
they should make the boss waves harder, like gravedigger is a piece of cake molten boss is even easier and fallen swordmaster is nothing, fallen king is the only decently hard one
@JacobTheBlueLobster
@JacobTheBlueLobster Ай бұрын
Hardcore needs the elevators gone, like if im trying to do luccile strat I DONT WANT TO WASTER 30 DAMN MINUTES TO GET CROSSROADS OR GETTING CYBERCITY FOR CYBERSPAM STRAT. Also hc should be longer.
@Diamondfromchina
@Diamondfromchina Ай бұрын
Honestly I think they should add more elevators so then it makes it have more chances (I think I’m dead)
@Epikcoolguy
@Epikcoolguy Ай бұрын
Hardcore has more waves. Speedy comes out on wave 4 while fallen has less waves and a speedy comes out of wave 5 Also what he said on 4:55 would be game changing. Using your leftover gems to buy different cool skins.
@hanszdhakwanrayyanbinsuphi260
@hanszdhakwanrayyanbinsuphi260 Ай бұрын
Hardcore big skill issue but i can still go to wave 48 without my friends and worst part is fallen king is fast enough and stun abuser. The requires to beat harecore with duo like Jester, Accelerator, Engineer, Pursuit, Golden minigunner and Mercenary base for support damages. Jester is for confuse for Void Reaver. Golden Minigunner, Accelerator, Engineer and Pursuit for dps and you use default minigunner but it will lack of dps. Forgot to say really need ranger for the high damage
@Someone-ru9uw
@Someone-ru9uw Ай бұрын
1:08 imagine how hard it would be to find cross on all 50+. Hopefully they don't add all of the maps, or at least let you choose a map
@mikaelplayz
@mikaelplayz Ай бұрын
The lead cause of most problems of hardcore : hardcore is updated only a few times and there is even an enemy from 2020 which havent been touched lol
@Goldgamezz
@Goldgamezz Ай бұрын
Yeah cause it’s 4 years outdated, devs say they dont want to work on it for some reason, and they would replace it with a diffrent type of mode entirely if they wanted to change it. (Likely wont happen till after 2.0)
@dylhansime9582
@dylhansime9582 Ай бұрын
Because people choose new gamemode instead rework molten, fallen and hardcore dumbass
@theluckiestllama5750
@theluckiestllama5750 Ай бұрын
TDX Endless is a far better endgame in my opinion. You can make it fairly far into the gamemode stratless, but not Hardcore. Hardcore you basically need a strat. One mild error just gets you killed in Hardcore.
@user-wp3pj4gh5o
@user-wp3pj4gh5o 22 күн бұрын
Solo hardcore needs to be easier to solo and should be more rewarding Also here is some stuff to change for solo hardcore: 1) have the ability to use only 1 consumable 2) have the ability to get a 6th tower slot in hardcore(but its only anvailable if u won hardcore before). 3) Increase wave cash and decrease the costs for towers by a VERY short amount 4)Decrease the amount of enemies on spectacular waves(f.e. less ballons on wave) 5) Make leads at least take a little bit of dmg even of the towers dont have lead detection 6) NERF THE SPEED OF THE SLOW KING LIKE BRO HE ISNT EVEN SLOW 7) Decrease the amount of shield that is put into enemies 8) Limit the amount of souls that void reaver can summon to just 8 souls 9) Nerf the speed of Void reavers 3rd rush form 10) more......gems......
@taufikrigo
@taufikrigo 8 күн бұрын
I don't think they'll ever touch hardcore ever again, because they never update the hardcore since the entity update. Also hardcore is nostalgic because most of the enemy is from 2020/2021, why do they never updated the enemy but instead make a new matchmaking? I don't know.
@kopereacts
@kopereacts Ай бұрын
matchmaking can help alot cuz 1 to get good teamate 2 less time consuming to get good teamates
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
Yeah that was a point I was going to make originally was that it's near impossible to find a good random team as you gotta beg people in the lobby lol
@OMGREALDUMMYFROMDVN
@OMGREALDUMMYFROMDVN 23 күн бұрын
with the power ups update (useless for hardcore, made it worse actually), sniper is for some reason NO LONGER ABLE TO HIT LEADS ON ANY LEVELS. It's so dumb ngl.
@Blank8767
@Blank8767 13 күн бұрын
Honestly, the increase in the price of things takes away from the fun. I would highly prefer if the enemies getting stronger over me getting weaker,
@user-mp8qg5tb5e
@user-mp8qg5tb5e Ай бұрын
I dunno maybe if only crossroads spawn so u maybe don’t have to wait 10 minutes to get into the match, and maybe they could fix the restart button cause I don’t get it. The literally tax u 30 gems for winning for no reason just cause they could
@bruhmeme3959
@bruhmeme3959 Ай бұрын
W tuber remembered when u used to make piggy maps. Raking in dough now
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
OG legend 🙏🙏 I have made £5 currently 🤑
@bruhmeme3959
@bruhmeme3959 Ай бұрын
@@Nedward0 yes sirr
@bruhmeme3959
@bruhmeme3959 Ай бұрын
You earned that 500 Robux
@sherlockhomeles
@sherlockhomeles 16 күн бұрын
hardcore would be so bad if they added even more maps cause u cant even get the map u want in public lobbies
@GTLoperPLC
@GTLoperPLC Ай бұрын
Instead of getting a HC rebalance/rework, we instead get a brand new gamemode because of the community.
@YaBoyCarlz
@YaBoyCarlz Ай бұрын
I don't like the tds player fanbase, its mostly kids tbh
@WubWinter
@WubWinter Ай бұрын
This comment aged well didn't it?
@froglemonade3398
@froglemonade3398 Ай бұрын
I just want them to add so the less people in a party the more towers tou can bring. I pretty much only play solo and it is so restricting to not be able to bring commander, dj, farm and 3+ attack towers.
@SonicWho1836
@SonicWho1836 Ай бұрын
Swap farm for cowboy. Simple fix.
@Jenaispasdinspi
@Jenaispasdinspi Ай бұрын
​​​@@SonicWho1836fact, I would say golden tho
@mumar99playz34
@mumar99playz34 Ай бұрын
I think 3 players is fine as it is, I do agree with the rest.
@user-ow2im1lo8v
@user-ow2im1lo8v Ай бұрын
hardcore was the most intense mode i ever played
@Zrinky
@Zrinky 21 күн бұрын
Hardcore just sucks I cant even get past wave 25 plus the goddam griefers that will just join the elevator so u cant join. I hope that they make hardcore fun, less grinding, gets more gems
@932ai
@932ai 14 күн бұрын
0:55 they can use old hardcore testing lobby theme
@hanszdhakwanrayyanbinsuphi260
@hanszdhakwanrayyanbinsuphi260 Ай бұрын
And im still thinking hardcore with coins and gem is a good idea to grind. 1575 coins and 300 gems, look fair enough and still waiting for the hacker and chaos mode release
@hermythecrazy565
@hermythecrazy565 3 күн бұрын
Now there are bug when you beat hc sometimes you don’t even get ur gems
@liamroblox6708
@liamroblox6708 Ай бұрын
I agree with everything but I think it is hard enough with the unknowns just span stunning but I can solo to wave 50 then loose to the unknowns stunning to much
@rickluk-gaming301
@rickluk-gaming301 Ай бұрын
The main issue is 5ouls, Crazrex and danksplatter soloing it too many times...
@dylhansime9582
@dylhansime9582 Ай бұрын
Cry about
@superrandom7790
@superrandom7790 Ай бұрын
Womp womp
@Croissant..61
@Croissant..61 Ай бұрын
why would that be an issue🤦‍♂️
@timelineencrypted1992
@timelineencrypted1992 22 күн бұрын
Commander Support Caravan ability spawns a unit with all detections that shreds through lead balooms
@ReBrandedd
@ReBrandedd 26 күн бұрын
underrated asf youtuber, stay small i wanna be noticed in the comments-
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 25 күн бұрын
I'm going to ignore this comment for that cheeky Oh wait too late
@mathuge69
@mathuge69 25 күн бұрын
peak xbox microphone,great video btw
@kar800000
@kar800000 27 күн бұрын
if hc matchmaking existed what would ever be the point of a private server
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 27 күн бұрын
There was never really a point once they made playing solo free. They are only useful for playing with people on the discord server now
@IndianaFeve
@IndianaFeve Ай бұрын
wait only 40 to 50min? Also if he doesn't upgrade hardcore, we all know tds :/
@context69
@context69 Ай бұрын
well i think you can easily beat hardcore in 30 minutes with a regular strat i think the dev nerf the length of hardcore long ago
@Dr_Polanst
@Dr_Polanst Ай бұрын
I agree with most on what you said but also I don’t think a difficulty increase is necessary but also whenever I want to play hardcore the only teammates I find are noobs so maybe that’s why hardcore is so difficult for me. Also trying to do hardcore cyber city after shotgunner got nerfed and jester got nerfed I can’t really beat it. Anyone got any cyber city hardcore strats i could use
@ourwtj
@ourwtj Ай бұрын
people who remember hardcore used to be played with blox maps and mecha base : 🗿🍷🍷
@muris8126
@muris8126 20 күн бұрын
0:47 Hold up for an damn min- *flashback old hardcore lobby* yep def add it back-
@gamedummy6614
@gamedummy6614 23 күн бұрын
The new unknown upcoming tower better be unlockable with gems...
@larscarstensen3102
@larscarstensen3102 Ай бұрын
you said hardcore is too easy, because of the lack of difficulty spikes, but you also said it’s too hard because only a few towers can hit lead balloons. Which is it?
@SonicWho1836
@SonicWho1836 Ай бұрын
Both
@larscarstensen3102
@larscarstensen3102 Ай бұрын
dude, if it’s too easy and too hard then it’s balanced
@piotrm5635
@piotrm5635 Ай бұрын
its not hard becouse of led baloons, he said that its boring becouse you are forced to bring specific towers, so you can't experiment with your loadut
@gufenya
@gufenya Ай бұрын
Honestly, I think that they either have to rework Hardcore & add matchmaking, or replace it with an Endless (Yes, like TDX) It would be fair enough to compare those, and I'll just say that Endless is far more enjoyable and rewarding For now though, all I can say is that Hardcore is insanely difficult, and there is nothing more to it ;-; (but I guess hardcore being a complete pain is implied within its own name, soo..)
@pardner8919
@pardner8919 20 күн бұрын
There's one thing I think hardcore needs too. A PLAYERBASE WILLING TO HELP PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE MODE *WITHOUT* THE HARDCORE TOWERS SO THEY CAN UNLOCK THEM.
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 20 күн бұрын
Isn't that just Lucille?
@Artalyst
@Artalyst 16 күн бұрын
lucille or trio miners 5.0
@VaultyValve
@VaultyValve 29 күн бұрын
Another problen was new player on hardcore never trust a lv300 host who want to do stratless, they're relying in Lucille nowadays
@chiakigacha9282
@chiakigacha9282 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: phantom crate was originally going to be a gemme crate, but they switched to a robux crate
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
No shot. I was going to suggest making the phantom crate a gem crate in the video but scrapped it😭
@chiakigacha9282
@chiakigacha9282 Ай бұрын
@@Nedward0 lol, that would had be nice tho
@Davi27654
@Davi27654 Ай бұрын
they already said they will change some things in all game modes. maybe hardcore is there
@slaoqeubotoaq
@slaoqeubotoaq 5 күн бұрын
I think the main problem with Hardcore is that how boring the grinding is, like, the towers are expensive which is understandable beacuse Accelerator and Engineer are op, but if you don't grind them with triumphs the grind is extremely boring, mostly for Accel cuz 99% of the time to triumph hardcore you probably need him. Brawler and Necromancer in my opinion are a little overpriced, mostly Necro, but they will be fine to grind as long it's a Triumph grind. But the grind of Triumph gets boring at Engineer, so there is no way to fix tha besides a nerf in engi's price Plus the early game in hardcore sucks, you basically need Ace Pilot, and sometimes Ace doesn't even work well, this tower needs a buff With the grind for towers hardcore gets boring easily, I mean, I don't want to get the towers by playing one match and be the easiest thing ever and everything being sunshine and rainbows, but I don't want to play the same gamemode over and over and over for only 1 tower and be bored at playing the game instead of having fun, as long as they make the gamemode more entertaining and somehow manage to actually make a fun grind I'm all for it, beacuse the same thing 1000x times for a total of x gems to finally get 1 single op tower is boring as hell, the expensive towers isn't a problem if the gamemode and grind is actually fun, bur it isn't
@hibye4804
@hibye4804 26 күн бұрын
No need to add coins that for molten if they did than other mods will be useless they just need to add more towers or skin and make it more fun and challenging
@dracoledraconoligist
@dracoledraconoligist Ай бұрын
….yet people care more about making some silly new gamemode that’s probably just gonna be easier than fallen, less rewarding, and near-useless to play rather than reworking the mode they don’t like 😔
@vanillajellyfish
@vanillajellyfish Ай бұрын
i heard that belownatural is considering deleting hardcore mode.
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
Definitley a bad idea, it just needs reworking
@vanillajellyfish
@vanillajellyfish Ай бұрын
@@Nedward0 i agree but it just shows how bad the mode is
@vidislime09
@vidislime09 28 күн бұрын
Now we need issue for polluted wasteland
@inksazyy
@inksazyy Ай бұрын
i waited an hour to get crossroads with my friends then I bugged out and can't go in the left elevator and my friends got mad at me
@ryanbahrami
@ryanbahrami 6 күн бұрын
Hardcore does need work, BUT KEEP THE 50 WAVES OR MAKE IT 60 IT NEEDS TO BE HARDER!!
@Bananananananannananananna
@Bananananananannananananna 29 күн бұрын
The maain issue is waiting for the map you want. I waited for 30 MINUTES for a map because it came only once in that time and some idiot took a spot cuz he wanted to solo. So we joined that guy and purposely made him lose. They should just make it s longer corridor with every map set out. I cba to wait that much.
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 29 күн бұрын
Y'all are mean goddamn 😭
@Bananananananannananananna
@Bananananananannananananna 29 күн бұрын
@@Nedward0 its perfectly justified. We politely asked him to leave and we had actually told the dude already before that we had been waiting and he just said “womp womp.”
@dwadthechad
@dwadthechad 12 күн бұрын
i lov ur videos ned
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 12 күн бұрын
dwad what are you doing
@daegggamin
@daegggamin 27 күн бұрын
I think they should balance hardcore like btd6 does with free play gradually making it harder and ofcourse having more unique stuff yeah
@daegggamin
@daegggamin 27 күн бұрын
Btw you quit piggy?
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 27 күн бұрын
@@daegggamin ye I didn't want to keep making content on an abandoned game
@daegggamin
@daegggamin 27 күн бұрын
I get it piggy ended and i got tio now btw i was a friend of urs
@CurrentlylikeTDS
@CurrentlylikeTDS Ай бұрын
Goated video.
@masteroctopusesanimations153
@masteroctopusesanimations153 Ай бұрын
I agree they should add void skins and make the, like the platinum skins so a fast fire rate also new hard core tower should be hacker
@lanebraun9537
@lanebraun9537 Ай бұрын
Yes the skins are great and they are planning to add hacker they said soon the discord
@masteroctopusesanimations153
@masteroctopusesanimations153 Ай бұрын
@@lanebraun9537 you sure becuse no tds KZbin’s are talking about it
@masteroctopusesanimations153
@masteroctopusesanimations153 Ай бұрын
@@lanebraun9537 maby the new update they will add 2 towers so one may be the hacker
@lanebraun9537
@lanebraun9537 Ай бұрын
I am sure tho
@Mynk275
@Mynk275 24 күн бұрын
you do know that you need lvl 25 for the survival statue which means newbies can't use it, right?
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 24 күн бұрын
And you need level 50 for hardcore 🤔
@UserG00gle
@UserG00gle 18 күн бұрын
Wouodnt adding 4 players make hardcore much easier?
@mcc_1360
@mcc_1360 12 күн бұрын
Another idea (not a serius one) put hidden wave in hardcore and make the reward a tower or 5 more gems
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 11 күн бұрын
We need this ☝️
@mikegenic
@mikegenic 15 күн бұрын
i don't think there is much wrong with the gamemode since it is hardcore and for god sake i don't want it to get harder. But everthing else is valid tho
@kadmielluisdelacruz7591
@kadmielluisdelacruz7591 15 күн бұрын
We got brawler now if you curious with the Recently
@user-zt1dw4vh5b
@user-zt1dw4vh5b 7 күн бұрын
The only thing i need is a matchmaking for hardcore, heck, just fix the restart button i would fine with that so i dont spend hours on finding the map, and if i do find the map some griefers will come in and ruin my day!
@Redhuski
@Redhuski 7 күн бұрын
Your wish came through they are adding matchmaking!
@user-zt1dw4vh5b
@user-zt1dw4vh5b 7 күн бұрын
@@Redhuski thank god
@Blurtion
@Blurtion Ай бұрын
Here’s a simple idea, make deluxe crates able to get from gems.
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
If it were to be any robux crated I would say phantom crate since they fit with hc with their darker aesthetic Also it's kind of mid I'm not paying for them lol
@Zsman96
@Zsman96 28 күн бұрын
My take: no stomp (stomp is lame) in boss battles you have to fight by yourself (+some) late enemies can kill towers at final wave is a bullet hell before fighting void reaver, keep dodge! you and other players have 3 life
@ivanchernobrovkin9496
@ivanchernobrovkin9496 Ай бұрын
you can play it on infernal abyss, space city and cyber city too
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
Cousin I said that in the video 🔥
@ivanchernobrovkin9496
@ivanchernobrovkin9496 Ай бұрын
Mb, didn finnish the video
@futureofgeography
@futureofgeography Ай бұрын
I agree Hardcore Matchmaking should exist, but I wouldn't say VIP Players should be able to pick ANY map, and it should only work on hardcore-available maps, since it'd only make the game more P2W and it could also take a while getting the maps you want without the gamepass, potentially longer, since all you have to do for the elevators is go in and out in 1 sec intervals, while you have to join, enter matchmaking, leave and rejoin until you get the map you want, so I'd say either add more elevators or balance the matchmaking system. As for more HC Towers, I definitely agree, but rn I don't think it'd be possible without a drastic content drought, even now the time jump between new towers is still quite high and would lead to another content drought the playerbase thought they'd moved on from, Trapper --> Merc Base was still long and adding multiple HC Towers is also quite challenging, since Merc Base was always a level tower it was easy to put it in the game as a level 150 tower, and Trapper was a mid game tower so 3,000 fits the others, but HC towers are unique, each one changes the meta in some way shape or form, mostly the Accel and Engineer, adding more of these would have to be balanced with pricing and the meta to make sure they're worth your money FAR more than coin based towers, since they're often easier to get since Mini and Ranger are dominating the Coin Scene other than gold towers atm, which was planned, altho I see them coming in future for sure, after the Chaos Mode releases it'll give time during the hype for the devs to work on a HC Tower to release since ppl are gonna try and find strategies and coin grind methods, but before it releases (and thank god its soon) I don't see it being a good idea since it would stall future updates greatly. As for going from 50 --> 40 waves, I again disagree, HC takes a while but going to 40 waves makes everything worse, beating HC would be an absolute nightmare with 40 waves, soloing it would be impossible but trioing it would also be practically impossible without towers such as Jester, and, even then, you get the idea, 1,200,000 HP on Wave 40 is ridiculous, and with how the game wants to make space for the Grave Digger, Molten Boss, and Fallen King/Swordmaster, fitting them into 40 waves is extremely hard, and it already is hard with 50, beating Wave 40 HC would be a nightmarish challenge that would ruin the grinding meta more than having 10 more waves, Regarding filler waves, going on your statement of the difficulty going up gradually, contradicts with your ideas of filler waves, without filler waves it could easily take an hour+ to beat HC, since harder waves = more time to complete = more game time, Wave 25, 45 and 50 are already difficult enough, and sure you'll have more money but having most other waves being a Wave 25/45 makes no sense and would also drastically increase the difficulty of HC, since you have to prep for one enemy with a certain tower but it can't hit the enemies that are already breaching your defence, a good example is 45 and 47 already, you're getting your defense ready for the brutal Wave 45, but then you don't have the towers to take out the Necromancer Bosses and they end your run, having Wave 46 be a filler wave gives you time to prep, Wave 46 already introduces Soul Bosses and Necromancer Bosses, and a Boss Wave should have a greater difficulty spike, so 3 Necro Bosses on Wave 47 would feel more appropriate, especially since Wave 46 is already quite easy with just the 1 Necro Boss, to make it harder than 45 there would have to be multiple necro Bosses, = more on Wave 47 and suddenly you're being overran by them on Wave 46/47, As for the player count and tower specifications, I think they're also justified, having 3 players makes the game more difficult, and being able to solo it doesn't justify making it more easy to grind, an extra player would make HC a joke already, and the ability to solo with event towers, again, justifies nothing, given the fact that you're able to perfectly slot in your towers and get them down is balanced, adding a 4th player gives the option for so much more flexibility and more farming = Waves such as 25+ become a practical joke, keeping in mind that 1 extra DPS Dealer would make the bosses far easier, and tower specifications are also fair because being flexible in the hardest difficulty does not sound right, bringing Sniper instead of Ranger should not give you a triumph, nor should Pursuit --> Ace Pilot. HC is HC for a reason, you shouldn't be able to juggle around with random loadouts or towers and win. Finally, regarding the Coin-Gem concept is the dumbest thing I have heard on a TDS video, ever, it's more or less a waste of effort, since Pizza Party Grinding can already get you thousands of coins per hour, so there's no reason to do HC for coins, EVER, if u can beat HC u can beat Pizza Party, 99.99% of the time, gems are the only reason ppl play this mode, and it's supposed to take a hell of a lot of time. Altho the ability to buy skins (So long as they're cheap) is dope and a pretty cool concept + The idea of matchmaking lobby lmao
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
You make very good points, i think you're defo right about the three player bit now I think about it, but I think my point for 40 waves still stands, as long as you make good money I think it's fine Also the coin thing hurts my soul 😭
@futureofgeography
@futureofgeography Ай бұрын
@@Nedward0 Lol
@futureofgeography
@futureofgeography Ай бұрын
@@Nedward0 I agree, HC definitely needs to be shorter, altho I would say making it faster would be better than shortening it outright for balancing purposes ;)
@Nedward0
@Nedward0 Ай бұрын
Good point actually 50 fast waves could work well
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