The massive 'Carrie' musical mistake

[@naplockblubba5369]

"F*** me like it's post-war" was so out of nowhere lmao, that got me good

[@comicus01]

Is that a British saying? I've been to Britain, I know most of their phrases, but that's a line I've never heard before.

[@TheAlps36]

I think its official: lateral has now become the new QI

[@StereoBucket]

Glad Tom was trying to take a sip at the moment.

[@craigst4635]

This was a genuine embarrassment for me in high school in Scotland in the 1990s. There was a school trip to Greece that my registration teacher was trying to get us to sign up to saying that it was £10. I was so confused and kept asking how it would be so cheap. I was given answers like 'there would be so many people going' and that 'it would be by coach'. I then said 'wouldn't it take ages by coach', to which my teacher said 'no, Edinburgh is only 35 miles away'. It was Grease that we were going to, not Greece.

[@neilstrickland4937]

I live in Canada but I suspect that I would have reacted the same way. “Grease” (the musical) and “Greece” (the country) sound the same. Your teacher should made it clearer that the trip was to see the musical “Grease” in Edinburgh!

[@Z_MIB]

@@neilstrickland4937 Yeah especially since a "trip to Greece" is not the same as "a trip to see Grease." Also, how is the musical Grease popular in Scotland? I don't even get why it was ever popular in America.

[@comicus01]

Even Ryan Air and EasyJet won't fly you to Greece for 10 pounds.

[@taniakrause9253]

😂😂😂

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

​@@neilstrickland4937Going to Greece by bus from Canada is a whole other level of implausible.

[@BlitzAblaze]

As someone born in the year SOSGI this is the most represented I felt since Carrie the musical

[@sloanemactire8780]

Listened to this episode yesterday and had to come watch the highlight for Bill's "F*** me like it's post-war" and Tom's reaction. Did not disappoint - well done Bill!

[@SlyPearTree]

Carrie had telekinetic powers, not pyrokinesis. I think there was confusion with the 1984 movie Firestarter with Drew Barrymore.

[@observer127]

Agree, I was about ready to make that correction myself.

[@ecchikitty1395]

Been years since I've seen the movie, but doesn't the prom catch fire? Seem to recall Carrie, covered in blood, flames in the background.

[@Elwaves2925]

@@ecchikitty1395 Yes, the hall the prom is in sets fire but not directly because of Carrie starting the fire with her powers. In the original movie (the book too I think) an electrical fire started because of everything being thrown around, lights exploding and so on.

[@ecchikitty1395]

@@promiscuous675 I think that's how the fire at the prom started. But I think it may lend to confusion of Carries powers

[@DderwenWyllt]

Telekinesis and pyrokinesis are basically the same thing, both allow you to move atoms back and forth with your mind, quantumkinesis is the only one with a real difference as you can't move the particles only change their spin, hence the reason for Einstein's famous quote "Spooky action at a distance"

[@cmelonwheels]

The dramatic irony watching Tom picking up his mug is SO GOOD

[@nivalshade]

4:23 Poor Tom didn't see that coming

[@poparena]

There's a gag in the American show "Mystery Science Theater 3000" where a character performs a "musical tribute to the 70s", then starts singing about the destruction of Pompeii. That's where my mind went on this question, "oh, she said 'the 50s,' didn't she?"

[@BigDavie2000]

My initial thought was they had asked for (19)50s themed but was interpreted as 50AD themed

[@ids1024]

It seems an unlikely mistake to make, but way better than Tom's suggestion of 1950s BC (which is before Greece per se existed, let alone Rome; apparently the Minoan civilization was around then). Seems odd none of them mentioned it. Also it mentioned "togas" which technically are Roman. So 50 BC or 50 AD would be reasonable for temples and togas.

[@fumthings]

mid century, confused with mid first century...

[@olivier2553]

I was thinking along something similar. Funny thing, I mentioned to a friend recently that in Thailand they never use only 2 digits for the year, they always use the full 4 digits (2567 for that beginning year).

[@JoeBleasdaleReal]

I want “F*** me like it’s post-war” on a T-shirt 😂😂😂

[@RoweClementine]

Sometimes I come back to this clip just to rewatch Tom’s reaction as Bill says, “F*ck me like it’s post-war”

[@aidanbrumsickle]

Me shouting "Grease" at my phone... Occasionally I actually get one of these, and I am always very excited.

[@andydoucette1680]

4:00 Timestamp, for reasons

[@Joeseanag24]

Very good reason

[@Sir_Uncle_Ned]

Tom absolutely nailed the tvtropes page for what induced that spit-take

[@danyunowork]

I wanted 'iconic' but got 'Ionic'.

[@SirExal]

I was positive that they asked for fashion "from the '50s" and someone somehow misheard it as "from the 50s."

[@robertjarman3703]

50s CE, OK, lets think Nero I suppose.

[@Z_MIB]

You wrote "from the 50s" twice.

[@ikarikid]

@@Z_MIBno they didn’t?

[@Z_MIB]

@@ikarikid Do you have any proof of your assertion?

[@ikarikid]

@@Z_MIB one has an apostrophe?

[@AndrewDederer]

Oh, yeah THAT musical. I was thinking for a moment that someone took "gymnasium" down the wrong path... But then they wouldn't be wearing togas.. As someone who went to a High School called the "Senators" (state capital, what are you going to do, except call yourselves "Solanos" in the school song for extra pretension) I find all of this hitting a bit too close to home.

[@gabrieljreed]

Bill is so funny, every episode with him is just the best

[@erictaylor5462]

At 5:20 I it just came to me. She said "Greasers" Greasers were subculture, mostly teenagers and often trouble makers. They got that name from the fashion of putting lots of grease in their hair to hold the style. John Travolta's gang in Grease were greasers. However, Danny may have just been going along with his friends, as he presented himself as a "good boy" while on vacation.

[@Zibani]

It was 5:06 for me. The moment he said "They didn't say 1950s ecactly," I made the connection that it was the musical Grease.

[@billruddock]

I was waiting for someone to check if it had been asked for in a 50s style instead of 1950s. Really enjoyed the directions this clip went though!

[@5paulo]

If I recall correctly, the fact both words sound the same was used in marketing of dishwashing liquid Ajax. "Stronger than all the grease"...

[@ThomasGiles]

Oh no, I think I got it instantaneously. This is so painful 😂

[@epiendless1128]

Best spit-take since a Jinjer Pisces reaction.

[@AM-we1es]

What?

[@whypick1_]

@@AM-we1es Look up "Fairy Voice Mother Pisces", 2:45 in

[@damplamp]

there was an ANT Farm episode (basically) based on this for anyone who watched the disney channel like 12 years ago. i got it immediately because of that

[@George_vv]

My first thought was that maybe toga parties were popular in the 50s and they just made a bold choice.

[@jrbship]

Bill's comment at 4:25 rightly has us all dying

[@donsample1002]

I was thinking the director said “make it look like the 50s,” and got 50CE instead of 1950CE.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

I was thinking she asked for it to look like the 50s. So it was set 1900 years early.

[@johnhutchins1470]

Could be right out of a sequel to Spinal Tap

[@comicus01]

Mini Stonehenge! TCM just showed it tonight!

[@darkshoxx]

This episode gave me whiplash 😆. Good Stuff!

[@vaclav_fejt]

I'll have a quick guess: . . . .. Is it the old "Grease vs. Greece" pun?

[@MusicBlik]

At 5:48 I was sure I had it with "Roman Holiday" (1953). Nope.

[@fifi.c175]

I was SCREAMING this whole one

[@TrondBørgeKrokli]

My immediate thought: The director said "The 50s", which was understood as the first century (nearly 2000 years ago).

[@LiveFreeOrDieDH]

Toga parties are more of a college thing than a high school thing. cue John Belushi chanting "Toga! Toga! Toga!!"

[@RogbodgeVideo]

I was thinking Animal House as well!

[@ricardoquerubin3962]

I got this one the second it was read because of a near identical gag in a random episode of Disney's AntFarm I saw 10+ years ago that magically unlocked in the depths of my brain. This podcast is bridging mental connections I never thought were possible. Also: 4:12

[@CoolAsFreya]

Fresh lateral highlight for 2024 and it's about a musical I know!

[@marthaanderson2656]

I am simply amazed that none of you have ever seen Carrie, the movie. It was iconic and a real groundbreaker winning accolades including Oscar nominations. Do yourself a favor and get your friends together for a viewing

[@lucbloom]

Oh I’ve seen it, at one point… just don’t remember anything about it beyond what was mentioned. I guess the book was better or something.

[@Z_MIB]

I've never seen it, and I never plan to see it.

[@erictaylor5462]

Carrie was a nerdy, homely recluse who was badly abused by her zealot mother, and by her classmates. In the movie Carrie starts her period, see that she is bleeding and freaks out. The other girls tease her relentlessly, including electing her Home Coming Queen only to humiliate her by dumping a bucket of pig's blood on her head. This is where Carrie's telekinetic powers come fully on line. She was meant to be a homely, mousy girl, which is what Chloë Grace Moretz was such a terrible choice for that roll in the 2013 remake. Chloë Grace Moretz is a fantastic actor, but she is as unsuasible for that roll as Tom Hanks is to play MLK. She simply doesn't have the right look.

[@Goatcha_M]

And I was thinking she just said I want a Classic '50s look. And without the 19, 50s does mean Roman times.

[@michaelavanessian8558]

Sppilers below... I won't lie...I thought it might've been related to Roman Holiday. After all, that's a movie from the 1950s, referencing Rome in the title. Turned out to be incorrect but still.

[@finkelmana]

WIthout finishing it, my thought is "Grease/Greece"

[@idabsopeoplecantseemecry3835]

Oh my god this is the first time I've actually managed to guess one of these the elation I feel rn is unreal

[@ferchrissakes]

Having just watched a bunch of these with Tom lamenting how much older he is than (in particular) the Answer in Progress kids, I imagined a millenial today asking their Gen Z director for a “set with an early 90s feel” and the director still coming back with togas and temples. Not because of any misheard words, but because anything before Minecraft and smartphones is equally far in the past

[@Amphibiot]

My initial thought, which turned out to be very wrong, was that i thought she asked for it in writing. But, she was being just a bit too pretentious and in stead of asking for a 1950's feel, she for some reason wrote it in roman numerals to get that MCML feel. Whoever read that request didn't understand roman numerals and just assumed it was set in ancient rome.

[@Pablo360able]

I got this instantly, either because I'm a genius or because I subconsciously remember this fact from a Waiting in the Wings video. Probably definitely the first thing.

[@osmia]

This one was great fun

[@juanignaciolopeztellechea9401]

I thought she said "from the 50's" And someone thought from the year 50.

[@psilorder86]

Guess at 0:24 Weren't fraternities/sororities nicnamed greek societies back then? Did they read up on college life in the 1950s and confused greek societies with greek reenactment clubs?

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Wait a minute..... did they ask for a "Roman Holiday" theme?

[@sqoomsh]

Did they say “Like Grease”?

[@AtariEric]

Spaced to avoid spoilers... Apparently Grease really _was_ the word...

[@Z_MIB]

The bird is the word.

[@KathyTrithardt]

I, hilariously, already knew about this shitshow and the story behind how things happened.

[@joycenfun]

I love how "I don't know anything about Carry" can mean different things for different people 😅 For Tom, it is "a movie with a bucket of blood" and for me "Stephen's King book"... I guess Tom's knowledge was funnier 😊

[@lucie4185]

My school class read a book called "Carrie's War" by Nina Bowden when the film was released and to this day I feel confused by which Carrie is involved. It should be obvious that Film Carrie was not a British wartime evacuee but it's stuck like that for me.🤦🏻‍♀️

[@user-jn4sw3iw4h]

Am I the only one disappointed the 'Lizzy stop there' wasn't worded: "Greece is the word" The "I am Zeus throwing greased lightning" restored a lot

[@socialismandrevolution8299]

I knew this one immediately, because I'm a musical nerd and I've seen the Wait in the Wings video about Carrie 😄

[@RogbodgeVideo]

Is it just me, or did Bill deliberately wait until Tom was drinking, before dropping the F-Bomb at 4:24?

[@loganricherson]

As someone who's main job is building theator sets and the like, that was very sloppy work. There really is no excuse for them to have not done any sort of follow up questions on the part of the designer

[@sabsab9126]

My first thought is Animal House. Now I'll see. Nope, missed it.

[@lforc25]

Only knew this one because of Wait in The Wings' Carrie the Musical video

[@MrStoooooo]

Was completely off - I thought they might have asked for a scene in "the gymnasium"😮

[@The-Seeker]

Is there a way to put the Question in the description post or Just Favorite someone who posts it in the comments?

[@JasperJanssen]

Oooooh 5:00 Grease/greece?

[@spelcheak]

Um Actually, she just asked for it to be Classic and Iconic but the director studied architecture. 🤓

[@lateralcast]

There are several people who worked on the production who corroborate this as a true story. nypost.com/2009/10/28/carrie-unburied/

[@spelcheak]

@@lateralcast 🙄 Ok, no jokes in lateral comments, got it

[@izzyb.5999]

I knew this one immediate cause I made the same mistake when I was in 4th grade

[@VigilanteAgumon]

Waiting in the Wings did a video on Carrie the Musical.

[@ptrknvk]

I was thinking "Give me some 50s vibe". Yeah, sure, here you go: Roman 50 AD vibe :)

[@erictaylor5462]

This one would be especially hard for non-Americans, or who have never seen a certain teen movie/musical staring John Travolta and Olivia Newton John. "you better shape Up!"

[@ecchikitty1395]

Not sure how long that would have taken me, I was way off.

[@fifi.c175]

'what word' oh my GOD

[@tianatucker4870]

I got this one a couple minutes in, I was so proud of myself, but it’s hard listening to the rest of the episode when you’re muttering “it’s grease! It’s Greece!”

[@nanardeurlambda]

did the director think "50's3 meant 50 years after Jesus's birth? 7:30 "I want a classic feel, like from the 50's" 8:03 Grease... instead of greece...(also bonus point for being a potential excuse to include a clip from the "technical difficulties")

[@MrQuickLine]

Bill needs to clean that IKEA chair

[@TheRacoonGhost]

mid video guess they used a phrase similar to "make it look like grease lightning!"

[@ambergris5705]

I was sure it was going down that typical weird American naming system, like "It's set in the olden days, in Syracuse/Philadelphia/Antioch/Athens/Ithaca" or something like that...

[@unlikelyraven7374]

The US did at one point have a half-penny

[@tristanholderness4223]

My guess was that she'd said "classic hollywood" and the set designer had interpreted that as "hollywood does the classical world". That felt like a bit of a stretch though, Grease > Greece makes much more sense!

[@geoffroi-le-Hook]

The Titanic musical came out before the Titanic movie and won five Tony ®️ Awards

[@Brenosakaguti]

5:37 I'm sure Gilbert and Sullivan are closer to the 1850s than the 1950s...

[@ice4795]

Greek life was the first thing my mind went to, but I think thats college

[@drcgaming4195]

bill is always hilarious on this show

[@Sylvander1911]

Grease is the word.

[@DukeDukeGo]

First I thought of "greek University life" like those organizations with 3 greek letter names

[@timothymclean]

Togas were a distinctive Roman garment, though? Doesn't everyone know that? I'm not "olivine and a couple feldspars"-ing it, am I?

[@rjcurrie61]

Was the director, for some reason, completely unfamiliar with musical theatre? Because it seems weird that a musical theatre director would hear "Grease" and think "Greece."

[@KenLieck]

They could have salvaged the whole "Greece"/"Grease" situation by simply having American graffiti on the walls of the set...

[@gorgonzola86]

Mel Brooks couldn't have invented that better

[@jezusmylord]

I always listen to it on spotify and seing those voices having faces is weird for me

[@empath69]

1950's? Togas? The panel's not going to get this with a) having no North American representative, or b) having a Gen X'er or older. I'm guessing the costumer heard '1950s' and thought of the seminal John Landis film "Animal House" (us college frat boys having boozy hijinks, including holding a 'Toga Party' SPOILER Edit: Oh! Case of 'homonyms being spoken and writing the request down would've avoided the confusion' - that's even BETTER! :D

[@Z_MIB]

At 3:40 Tom asks is the person misinterpreted 1950s as 1950 BC, and the person responds that it was AD, but that doesn't actually answer Tom's question. Tom and everyone else already knows that its supposed to be AD.

[@Wick9876]

1950 BC and AD are fairly the same distance from Rome. City founded 753 BC, principate established 27 BC, Western empire fell 476 AD, Eastern empire lasted to 1453 AD.

[@AngryKittens]

I think Bill confused _Carrie_ with _Firestarter._ Both are Stephen King novels, but Carrie has TELEkinesis. Whereas Charlie, the girl from _Firestarter,_ has pyrokinesis.

[@lateralcast]

In one of the film remakes, she has that power.

[@AngryKittens]

@@lateralcast Ew. Remakes. :P

[@Urza9814]

Greece vs Grease?

[@graflovespeep2487]

This was also my first thought, that the producer wanted a 'feeling like it's out of Grease' and the director misheard it.

[@Urza9814]

Eyyy I got it quicker than they did! And I have never even seen Grease...nor Carrie...lol

[@alysonmcmanus2005]

I was so excited when I realized that is what it was.

[@route2070]

I wassuprised that I got It on accident.

[@pedro1492]

appreciate your flag, daniel

[@JNCressey]

What's going on with the colours, though? The delta stripe that is pink when everyone is small on screen appears to be yellow when it's just Daniel fullscreen.

[@deatheater6222]

i dont think you quite know what authoritarian is@@Henrik46

[@pedro1492]

@@JNCressey i dont see that and would say your monitor is not calibrated properly

[@AltonV]

@@Henrik46 no it is the opossition to that flag that is authoritarian

[@thespankmyfrank]

​@@Henrik46 Said flag is anything but authoritarian lol. Think you need to stop listening to conspiracy theories, bud.

[@jackbaxter-williams8059]

Lizzy is amazing

[@daniellemurnett2534]

I can only imagine that the venn diagram between Dropout subscribers and Tom Scott content enjoyers is significant if not a circle, so I do feel like there's a joke to be made about being slammed down greek style but I just can't quite get it right. Anyone wanna help workshop it?

[@MiklaneTrane]

[Spoilers] . . . . . . Greece is the time, is the place, is the motion... Greece is the way we are feeling... Greece is the word!

[@Z_MIB]

The bird is the word.

[@blindleader42]

I had no idea that associating togas, a distinctively and exclusively _Roman_ garment, with [spoiler alert] Greece is somehow a thing.

[@sorrynotsorry8224]

The Greeks had clothing that was similar to togas, like the peplos or himation. When you can't tell the difference, you would assume they're togas.

[@v6243_____]

bill is a treasure

[@nate_storm]

the near spit take at 4:25 💀

[@jaredporikos2197]

Love Carrie The Musical