The MASSO G3 Touch, Is It Worth It?

I want to run you through the MASSO G3 Touch CNC control system. Some of you have had some questions about this guy so I am going to give you my best full and honest opinion, and you can decide if it's right for you!
We have put thousands of hours on these controllers, am I going to keep buying them?
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[@bobdart8373]

been thinking about the Masso for awhile thanks for the review

[@DIVCNC]

No worries, definitely nice to know a little more about it before dropping that kind of cash

[@ziganagode]

@@DIVCNC did you try it with servos? someone on some forus stated that this platform has low khz Im kind of woried it wont be good for adaptive roughing and stuff like that:(

[@juanmanuelgarciaortega2591]

@@ziganagode tiene 110 KHZ en cada eje. Yo tengo una controladora por USB que me da 75000 KHZ para todos los ejes y hace adaptativos sin rechistar.

[@icdjpr]

No macros no memory running off a usb stick doesn't sound good on long programs but it does look nice ill keep running my tried and true solid uccnc.

[@portblock]

overall price point is pretty good, its the closest thing I have seen to a real industrial controller. all those PC controllers just dont do it for me, but then I come from siemens and fanuc controllers. If I could get a fanuc controller I would put it on everything. Granted I have not used this controller, but the #1 thing that stops us from buying a controller or machine is the lack of switches and knobs. case in point, I will not buy a haas machine as they are not good for a job shop, mass production yes, but proving out a program on a controller without the ability to operate it without looking is a nogo for me. example, turning flood coolant on/off with a switch while not looking. lowering raising rapids without looking, single cycle, etc..

[@sblack48]

When you buy a car with a big screen and you don’t pay the $2k for the gps nav it’s still there in the car, you just don’t have the code to enable it. It’s a standard biz practice. That way they simplify production. I don’t think you can expect them to give you stuff free. They are in business after all. I think their price point is charging what the market will bear. That’s straight forward business 101. They aren’t a charity. If they don’t deliver on performance then you have a beef but if it’s good and people are buying it then what do you expect?

[@skipl7485]

I noticed you didn’t use the ES output on the Masso. Can you explain how you are handling an E-stop condition? Just curious as I’m currently wiring my CNC and using a Masso touch.

[@bogeydope3022]

It's an underpowered and expensive semi real time controller that acts exactly the same as any other pc system with motion controller. Those Masso cannot run in real time and always have the commands in buffer. It's made for the standard user without any knowledge in the field. If you want cheap industrial grade cnc controls try something like the XCMCU 709D or HLCNC 980m. I've built a lot of CNC retrofits for bigger milling machines and lathes, from Pokeys57CNC, ESS, CSMIO IP/x and some others that were running Mach3/4. I've now moved to standalone Fanuc like controllers from china with built in display and proper keypad. They start at about 500 USD, depending on how many axis you need. They are proper 32 bit real time systems without any lag while jogging with mpg, support mpg job control, have full ATC control, Tool library with auto wear measurement and compensation, proper spindle orientation for rigid tapping and supports every axis with separate encoder inputs and even glass scales. You can also run any plc via rs485, so oilers and exotic hydraulic table clamps are no problem to implement. For example, the XCMCU 709D 5 Axis unit is about 500 USD, and has all the above features, almost the same as any MACH4 system when you count all the extra stuff you need. My customers are super happy with those and i no longer need to kill hours on support for obscure errors with mach and motion controllers. I run one of these on a MAHO700 myself and another more sophisticated one from another chinese manufacturer on a CNC with Toolchanger and 64 toolholders. The only problem you have with these is the documentation is basically nonexistent and only includes the most basic stuff in chinese. Nothing for the standard user that needs to have a step by step guide. However, maybe i should open up a webshop and sell these with proper documents, since i know them in and out.

[@niksechtniks]

Tnx for the review! Very helpfull!

[@DIVCNC]

No problem, thanks for watching and commenting!

[@ohsnapfit2096]

What about federate overrides for running program the first time?

[@hamps856]

do you have have Mach 3 to use this controller?

[@MakeAnything-]

can you set a password on it?

[@adamcastle2691]

It would be nice if there was a feed over ride.

[@arpanchoudhury_]

Thanks for the review

[@DIVCNC]

👍

[@billmarrufo]

Hi, my name is Guillermo (Bill) Marrufo from Mexico, I wonder what the resolution it has. I intend to build a 3+2 axis laser engraving machine for irregular 3D surfaces. Being dedicated to plasma, I tend to think it may not have the precision I need for very fine intricate details. Thanks for your time answering.

[@juanmanuelgarciaortega2591]

Hola, la resolución te la va a dar mas bien los micro pasos con los que configures tus drivers de los motores PAP o Servos que vayas a emplear. Esta placa te da 110KH por cada eje, podrías poner la resolución máxima en tus drivers, hablamos de centésimas o milésimas de milímetro. Pero piensa que necesitaras servos decentes para esas resoluciones. Hay un canal en español llamado MaquinerosCNC, el tipo tiene un video donde explica muy bien la relacion entre los pasos de tu motor, la resolución y la capacidad de tu controladora. un saludo

[@billmarrufo]

@@juanmanuelgarciaortega2591 Hola Juan Manuel, Muchas gracias por compartir tus conocimientos y tu tiempo. Donde te ubicas? Saludos de Monterrey!

[@benrasmussen9878]

does anyone know if this will work with an older servo drive system?

[@Mk98788]

If the servos/servo drives are happy to work with step/dir signals it should work just fine

[@Spyderman500]

If I’m correct, there is No network, Wi-Fi connection or onboard memory. I’ll stick with a Centroid controller.

[@DIVCNC]

They do have Wifi for file transfer, no built-in memory which is annoying, if it looses it's connection with flash drive (which does happen) the whole machine shuts down, a problem which could easily be solved onboard memory.

[@icepick_method3439]

Did the price for the masso just jump up like $500 in the past 6 months? I swear it wasn't $1700 the last time i checked.

[@MehakTariq-l4k]

This is for the complete system controller plus touch screen plus relays etc.

[@icepick_method3439]

I thought the entire package was around 11-1200 earlier this year, 800 for just the masso unit without touchscreen. Now i see sites talking about tariff import fees and I'm feeling priced out.

[@DR-br5gb]

The g3 went up $180 since 2022. I paid $1,110.00 for MASSO G3-Touch - Mill / Router CNC Controller - 3 Axis which is now selling for US $1,290.00. Pretty shitty considering the fact that we're currently battling Bidenomics.

[@xConundrumx]

I might need bleach for my eyes now :) ... Did you use red wires for GND ? Tisk tisk tisk.

[@kingofl337]

If only Masso had screw mapping.

[@ziganagode]

whats that? like rigit taping?

[@kingofl337]

@@ziganagode No, it allows you to measure error in the ballscrew and calibrate them out.

[@juanmanuelgarciaortega2591]

te refieres al corrector de backlash??? Es raro que no lo tenga, casi todos los controles cnc lo tienen

[@mysteryMachinePL]

"You dont have to use PC" is really not a great argument. Most of DIY people and especially professionals have some PC that is not used. Also if you build a PC into a machine you do not place any other software unless its for CNC process so crashing is not a problem. As you pointed out, Masso is also crashing and if you run your system from SSD on PC it will start in just few seconds. I try to find a good argument for purchase of Masso G3 but I cannot find it, GUI is not enough as selling point.

[@DieselRamcharger]

could they use cheaper buttons? looks like junk.

[@SA-HOME]

Masso doesn't support macros so I got rid of Masso - sold it

[@juanmanuelgarciaortega2591]

hola soy nuevo en esto, me podrías poner un ejemplo común en uso de macros?

[@simonbelanger7842]

I'm converting an old meccanica cortini l300 4 axis mill, is this controller fast enough to do HSM or complex 3d toolpaths? Like 100 lines of code a second or more? this is my main concern atm, does it have look ahead and smoothing?

[@juanmanuelgarciaortega2591]

Con 110KH por eje creo que hablamos de centésimas de milímetros

[@Foomanlol]

The price of the extra axis made cry tears of joy. Haas charges over $1500 for just rigid tap option lol.

[@miguelnegreiros1703]

Hello! Do you use a Masso in Haas CNC?

[@Foomanlol]

No I use it in a diy build. I own a Haas and paid 3500 for software options like HSM so the options on the masso are incredibly cheap to me

[@arbjful]

@@FoomanlolBut Haas is strictly not DIY machine, so the cost will be high

[@durzoblint4847]

I got the Masso Touch for my PrintNC build.A little intimidated about my electrical enclosure and wiring.

[@thepichner]

I am thinking about this for our PrintNC build as well...

[@juanmanuelgarciaortega2591]

yo estoy en la construccion de mi segunda CNC y estoy a punto de palmar 1400 dolares..... pensando que le cuento a mi mujer!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@keemao1]

its not worth the price, there are too many g codes that it dont support, for a machinest its a nogo for a wood router ok

[@Stephen8454]

I am so tired of my RichAuto controller on my Axiom AR6 router. Especially given I use Fusion 360 and its had its issues with a Post Processor. This looks like a really good change which can allow for better control of spindle speed and programming other things like a mechanical dust shoe and mister

[@DIVCNC]

It definitely is, and works well will Fusion 360 which is what we typically use

[@RB-yq7qv]

I was thinking of buying this system but I went another way so my bank account wasn't empty to a greedy company. So it worked out I can buy 5 of a anther provider's unit and the money saved I purchased another machine with tools and still have money in my pocket.

[@ebenezerd.3701]

What other brands are there? I am trying to build one and the price for just the controller(g3) is mad expensive. If there is a brand you know that is reliable would be great to have!!

[@dafyddgould9485]

how do you wire up your stepper cards to this

[@IceCreams62]

Hi. There is the possibility to write your own macros ?

[@johannvanschalkwyk2141]

Does the Masso also replace the stepped drivers or do you still need the stepper drivers?

[@OwnTwoHands_]

You still need the stepper drivers. The Masso is only generator of STEP/DIR signals.

[@MehakTariq-l4k]

Did you check out acorn six controller from centroid?

[@davidcarpenter2527]

I did, and it developed into a trip down the rabbit hole trying to simply get it hooked up... probably a good choice for someone who is using the system as a "hobby"... but for someone like me, who isn't interested in a "career move", I've opted to throw the Acorn back into the box and going with MASSO. Perhaps my machine was simply requiring more than the Acorn could supply without getting eyeball deep into wiring, macros, etc., which I don't have the time, will, or patience to engage in at this point.

[@luke1811]

Nice video. Can you tell me the manufacturer code / part number of the touchscreen itself? Maybe it's somewhere visible from the back. Curious what they actually built into this pendant.

[@DIVCNC]

Hi there, it is the Innolux G150XNE-L02

[@luke1811]

@@DIVCNC Thanks a lot! do you like the touchscreen itself? I have built a pendant with a Thinkpad brand touch-monitor and it wasn't really suited for a workshop

[@xyzspec82]

Cool channel, subscribed!

[@DIVCNC]

Awesome, glad to have you

[@A3Kr0n]

Pass

[@seimela]

It's a pass for me too

[@seimela]

Don't waste money and time with this underdeveloped Masso ...look out somewhere...industrial standard at same price as Masso

[@hesher2000]

Which industrial standard? I am looking at this to get away from a RichAuto controller.

[@Foomanlol]

What industrial standard for the same price? Siemens or Fanuc? Very expensive.

[@seimela]

Open your eyes guys ....even mach4 is better than this the internet must be yourfriend

[@hesher2000]

@@seimela I'm not saying this is better but you are saying that there is an "industrial standard" for the same price. Mach4 is not an industrial standard. Would like to know what industrial stand you are talking about.

[@rak6080]

Ignore this guys comment. I have this on my Taig lathe and it is excellent. Fully developed and supported. Questions answered right away on the forum, and suggestions for software changes actually used.