The Math of SMT V: Vengeance #3: Navigators, and How They Find Items

[@RobinandZephyr]

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[@jaffinator2166]

First off, It was a pleasure gathering footage for this project. But more importantly, I was taken aback when I first heard of Kias' passing. While I only knew her for a short period of time, she was an incredible part of this community. With generosity matched by kindness, passion for her interests and a genuine care for those she cared about. Kias will be deeply missed 💜

[@ericac2761]

Thank you for sharing this, it makes me so happy to know Kias is well remembered.

[@nepdimensionbun8321]

Kias was a friend of mine who encouraged in doing my own Smt5v solo run with the joke that i will farm to 400 vit to simply tank the demi fiend, im sad i can never show Kias how far this solo has come but im finally at the end of the game and gonna start the 400 vit grind soonish Rest in Peace Kias we all love you

[@ericac2761]

Thank you for sharing this, it made me smile.

[@matthaisstupidus]

I... didn't realise, I'm so sorry for her and her family, I hope she has a better time wherever she may be now

[@levinstrategist]

Seeing this brought tears to my eyes. I'm honored to have been called Kias' best friend, and I'm still dealing with the pain and grief of losing such a dear person in my life profoundly. Thank you immensely for this. You've earned a subscriber and fan for life.

[@RaytheShame]

My condolences to the family and friends of Kias.

[@schooled9543]

Suicide is such a sneaky poison, and its so easy to fall into, leaving nothing but victims and no one to blame. I'm so sorry for her family and I can only pray and donate what I can to the cause. Stay strong Robin, Zephyr.

[@daywuch_nb465]

be seeing you kias, feels better saying that. No one was like you.

[@ericac2761]

Kias battled depression for years. Kias did the things to get better; counseling, self admitted twice, had an emergency plan, and had a loving and supportive family. Kias fought every day to be alive, even when it hurt. Kias was a warrior. Unfortunately, Kias grew tired and could no longer fight and lost the battle with depression Nov. 25, 2024. Kias was the most generous and pure hearted person I have ever known. Kias was accepting, included everyone, and offered love and support to almost every person they encountered. Even when in pain, Kias still gave as much as they could. Kias loved their online family, games of any sorts, cats, music, cooking, rpg, and dancing. Kias was a beautiful soul that saw the best in everyone, except themself. If Kias has touched your life, please reach out to someone and let them know they are loved and needed in this world. Make sure your friends know they are valued and important. Kias 2004-2024

[@Moorisa_]

I am so, so, so sorry for your loss.

[@lilithramirez7719]

Rest in peace Kias.

[@gracesiemi]

Holy spark was not expecting that never interacted with them but as someone who has suffered from suicidal tendencies it hit me deeply.

[@gracesiemi]

Can’t donate through KZbin so mad a donation directly to the foundation

[@supermariogamer5294]

May Kias rest in peace. Can't say anything about her, but let it be known that her efforts are appreciated in and out of the Megaten space.

[@cameronbarry198]

Kias was a personal friend of mine. Thanks for this.

[@ericac2761]

Thank you for being a friend to Kias. Kias was my baby and I love hearing she was well loved and had so many friends.

[@valletas]

"There is no real logic to who is here" My guy decaraiba is said to be a master of gems in the ars goetia and alice can literally appear as a bossfight in smt2 when you open gem chests Not sure about cleopatra though maybe its just the fact that she was a queen of a past superpower

[@RobinandZephyr]

Today I learned! My bad! Lol

[@valletas]

@@RobinandZephyr better late then never Now you have to go watch the tony4you video on the goetia demons in smt Also nyarly demonless smt 2 run with is where i discovered alice can do such a thing because its like a really rare encounter

[@Dw7freak]

Cleopatra was known as a queen so beautiful that Julius Ceasar himself fell for her. It's not that she finds gems, they come to her. Her zero modifier could mean that her suitors are bringing them to attempt to gain her favor, and the jealous ones are trying to kill you. Mara having a -10 could also be lore related, as he is known for failing to tempt Buddha. He tempts you with being in a the item pool with performance enhancers and being among the little guys. And why wouldn't you allow Mara to come along with you. He just also tempts other demons with his girthy modifier and forgot to use protection, causing fights to erupt all over you. In either case, he'll leave you satisfied with great items that can help dominate battles or a battle with a quick climax, especially if the battle is a Mitama and their juicy drops. There's also the fact that since you unlock Mara in Taito, it's fairly late into the game and most of the areas are pretty submissive to you at this point. As the items on that table can perform well through the game, going through the early areas and dominating their encounters isn't a bad way to stock up on them. And you can have him take responsibility by also having him in your roster. The little guy will show his full size and either Hell Thrust or Megaton Press all over the opposition. Penis joke.

[@DiegoG2004]

She'll be our navigator in spirit...

[@ash.j-tg4re]

Rest in peace to Kias Rose. I hope that she's in a better, more peaceful place now, as a free soul.

[@cliffjumper7630]

Thank you for doing this for Kias. The fact that she is gone still doesn't quite feel real, but I am glad to know that many people will remember her.

[@lindsaywgriffin]

Kias is much loved and missed. I am so honored to share my name with her. There is a huge hole left in all our hearts.

[@AxelRyman]

RIP Kias. I didn't know you for long but you were fun to be around in the stream chats. They won't be the same without you.

[@Moorisa_]

I don't know any of you, but I'm deeply sorry to hear about your friend, Kias. If it offers any comfort, I truly believe she has a soul that's still out there. You'll see one another again. Until then, stay strong yourselves. 💙

[@j.s.s.2365]

Rest in peace

[@alexanderli8566]

May Kias be able to find peace

[@Pystoria]

Amanozako if we don't find a tan mitama this time I'm gonna fuse you with a slime for real

[@hazyIane]

i donated what i could i apologise for the loss i hope everyones okay

[@HeyImGreenArrow]

Crazy how this video came out because I was debating on Cleo or Alice for best gem finder. Sticking with Cleo for now and once Alice is available I'll switch over. Thanks for all the information!!

[@YunaTuna01]

fly high rose

[@Flutterdark_]

math in games is all about the hidden info, this vid was great.

[@backstagephantom27]

Great video and a great way to highlight and support the community

[@Flutterdark_]

i get why decarabia is so bad he was originally the only gem finder, and they wanted gems to be rare due to incense exchange now that hes not alone, that -10 is just bad

[@AxelRyman]

Regardless of the findings and results in this video, everyone knows the best Navigator is Mothman. Why? Well he even says it himself. "I'M FUCKING ADORABLE!!"

[@waltterikoponen8426]

Well this was some nice info! I should remember this for my Canon of vengeance run :D Because ciron is not there :'( i adore him so much, im gonna miss him :( I do also remember when the navigator voting was on for the dlc navis, I wanted Loup garou :P he's cool and one of my favourite demons in V but too bad he did not win :D

[@RobinandZephyr]

I voted Loup-Garou too; we were robbed!

[@Isuream6331]

Rest in peace Kias

[@paperboy1790]

Jesus.. that's horrible. I don't know what to say. But as far as the video goes: Oh thank GOD I've been constantly wondering just... What was up with the navigators.

[@screwtokaiba]

WeLl, if it ISN'T tHe DuMbaSS with Too mANy naVIgatoR!

[@nathanblackburn1193]

I'm sorry to hear about you losing your friend. I want to point out that the "gem hunter" navigators do make some sense, Decarabia in the Ars Goetia is said to have knowledge on all herbs and precious stones, Cleopatra is a queen and was believed to be extraordinarily beautiful, gemstones are also considered beautiful and jewellery is something only wealthy or royalty would wear historically, the only one that doesn't make much sense is Alice as she's loosely based on Alice in Wonderland but maybe I'm missing something. Edit: Someone else mentioned that Alice can appear from gem chests in SMT2 so that's likely the reason

[@WishMakers]

I've been waiting for this video *forever* ... The number one worst thing about SMTV original was how *terrible* the grind for Sutras and certain items is, and the game heavily abstracts how you can optimize that process. There's a lot of things made easier to get up to spec and make a new team, but the game is *insistent* on keeping element affinities locked away behind an obfuscated mess. Vengeance, while making this a little better, has also made it a lot worse with the sheer number of new navigators, so... I'm looking forward to watching this in full while discussing it with my friends. Thank you!! I also wanted to express my condolences. Depression is a difficult battle. I've known many people suffering through it in real time, multiple people who have hurt themselves or expressed a desire to, including myself. Kias did as best as they could, and it certainly seems like they were surrounded by a group of people who loved them very dearly. I'm so sorry. Rest in peace, Kias.

[@Zahri8Alang]

Ooooooofffff Mara..... Got a Critical Aura Hell Thrust with that one

[@RosyMiranto]

Damn, Mermaid got a nice drip xD

[@ryanpoulos8232]

It’s worth noting that Nahobeeho has a chance to spawn magatsuhi enemies when he spawns encounters. Which can also grant incense

[@RobinandZephyr]

What do you mean by magatsuhi enemies?

[@ryanpoulos8232]

I think they are called punishing enemies, they are the glowing enemies you sometimes encounter in the overworld.

[@RobinandZephyr]

@@ryanpoulos8232 Ah, those! Yeah, I got you. I'm hadn't noticed that out of any of the fights I got into Beeho with, at least not more than normal with other Navis. Though it's certainly possible; perhaps that's a trait shared by all the Fight Club navis?

[@ryanpoulos8232]

@ it could be. Nahobeeho is the only fight navigator I’ve ever used, but when using other navigators I dont get the punishing enemy encounters at all

[@KyngD469]

6:00 Ive never seen a Lilim with so much clothes on. Lmao

[@jaffinator2166]

P5X design. Censored because China's censorship policies

[@RobinandZephyr]

Some of the P5X art censors some of the Demons, but man does a lot of of it go hard

[@Championoko]

Man this suck wish I could have met her

[@cryguy0000]

Idk about you but more often than not Mermaid got me into fights. Idk if maybe her item rate is just low or what but it seems like she gets battles more than any good items

[@AdApT3Rx]

Rip

[@kevinyounker7053]

Can someone tell me if these guides follow you around the entire game ? And is Mara found early in the game as a navigator?

[@Piyamakarro]

How do I get that mermaid render

[@RobinandZephyr]

Link is in the description!

[@TheChadYuNarukami]

:(

[@permafrostyx]

navigatr gaming in the clinton years 🤮