THE MBT ACT MAN RANT

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@HoseB932 11 ай бұрын

I mean, the point of the “archetype” argument was moreso, You had a developed playstyle and set of cards you COULD use off the bat, look at darklords who succeed in 2 things: getting things TO the GY, summoning from it (Morningstar might only be good as a left field finisher/swarmer but still.) but you COULD add more, like Reasoning, Allure of Darkness, Shadow’s Light and other stuff. Back then, the bad cards were BAD, while spells and the most powerful monsters were GENERALLY degenerate. (BLS envoy and Chaos Sorcerer were pretty cool though.) Perfect Circle and stuff like DAD decks were up there though, but with such a powerful deck, it’s more like you’re GONNA fight A LOT of the same thing. Nowadays you will see a lot of decks who might all Negate, swarm, pop cards, or a combination. But getting a goor hand CAN get you out of it. Then again you could draw Allure, no starters, activate it, only to BANISH YOUR ENTIRE HAND and have to lose because luck wasn’t on your side. MBT is right (even if it can feel like a hit piece. Act Man is a casual fan and that’s okay, but his video CLEARLY is just nostalgia bias speaking, SomecallmeJohnny uploaded a tamer Yugioh Retrospective and it was great.)

@Jimbo139 Жыл бұрын

The act man has called MBT a plague on the yugioh Community because of this video. Pretty fragile lol.

@jlightning6798 Жыл бұрын

No shot that's real

@casualtheeduelist Жыл бұрын

You got a video where he says that? I would love to wafch it

@todortodorov1379 Жыл бұрын

@@casualtheeduelist It's a tweet. He said in twitter a while ago about making a video addressing 2 of his videos including the ygo one and someone asked him about mbt's response video, which led to this statement.

@silenceyouidiot Жыл бұрын

@@todortodorov1379 Because he said he tried to talk to MBT but he didn't want to get involved with him, pretty reasonable response imo. He's also spoken to Farfa and Dzeef, who he's played with years ago but MBT making a video essay response rather than even attempt to talk it out is pretty shitty behavior from someone 'in the community' as an influencer.

@kavinh10 2 ай бұрын

mbt is a damn normie

@thezestylime0989 Жыл бұрын

"why do people only play these formats" cause they're the most popular and readily avaliable on simulators. also "march 7th 2010" Doesnt exactly roll of the tongue. GOAT, Edison, HAT, TOSS etc... not saying all named formats are good. but they're more known than the inbetween.

@YeahTheDuckweed Жыл бұрын

Yeah we can uh we can leave toss out of that one haha

@ShyRanger Жыл бұрын

It's also confusing now since GOAT got it's name because of Scapegoat, and now GOAT means something else.... that most GOAT players would say is still accurate lol.

@pixelhavoc4950 Жыл бұрын

The reason Joeseph came off as so hostile wasn't necessarily anything against the ActMan. It was because his entire argument isn't new, nor is it valid. This viewpoint, known as being a "Yugi-Boomer", has existed FOR AGES. And has never had a leg to stand on. If you want old Yu-Gi-Oh, you can still play it. If you want it to win games in modern: too bad. 4kids dub has censorship? Yeah no shit everything has censorship. It's annoying. It's not a valid argument, it has no point, it is purely just repeating that things have in fact changed.

@RoleyRxeh 11 ай бұрын

Whole video is bro being the “actually…..*fixes glasses*”

@buddasogudda Жыл бұрын

I used to always hate how slow the game was, and loved that I returned to a game with insane combos and mechanics. I don't understand why normies want to go back to t set pass. I like to have anime level fight scenes with blowout cards.

@elin111 Жыл бұрын

It's called nostalgia bias. You experience something as a kid, you assume it's the best thing ever and develop a habit of having an allergic reaction to something no longer being the exact same as what your kid brain remembers, even though that thing you experienced as a kid most likely sucked back then.

@thatguywithguitar3283 Жыл бұрын

@@elin111 I didn't have yugioh as a kid, and I still prefer set - pass style of duels.

@YeahTheDuckweed Жыл бұрын

I've never heard anyone actually admit this before haha that's so fucking hilarious that I agree

@YeahTheDuckweed Жыл бұрын

@@thatguywithguitar3283 play magic bro

@thatguywithguitar3283 Жыл бұрын

@@YeahTheDuckweed I don't want to, lol.

@Goldsbro Жыл бұрын

Cap: gives MBT guff about Evil Twins' lore Also Cap: Thought Raye and Roze were sisters EDIT: Otherwise, this was a good look into how MBT does undercut Yugioh having a lot of great formats. The main issue is that there's only like 4 that see major support in the modern day.

@Gamernutritionfacts Жыл бұрын

I honestly have to agree w chat on the destiny hero’s deck not being combo. To me that just looks more like a general aggro strategy forming little micro combos It’s not a traditional yugioh combo in the way that a zoomer such as myself would think of it, which are huge, planned out plays w the goal of getting to very specific cards, whereas the strategy shown in this deck is more open to improvisation

@soukenmarufwt5224 Жыл бұрын

Besides the historical inaccuracies at times, I do mostly agree with MBT's points. I'm tired of out of touch Yugiboomers always making the same tired arguments and points. It has become so repetitive, this is especially true on the anime side of YGO, it's why I rip on them so hard. Formats, there's many legacy formats from 2003 - 2012 that were amazing to play. It's why I find Edison and Goat Format overrated. (BTW Goat Format curates Cybernetic Revolution and Excerion Universe cause reasons which I won't go into lol) Added insult why I don't take Yugiboomers seriously. There are small communities that now make private servers to play online using old YGO games from 2006 - 2015. While not reliable, still shows there's communities that can play old formats with era accurate card pool (OCG). Side note EDOpro has anime cards. There you can check out anime cards. There you can see the majority of anime/manga cards are garbage. Its why I take anime YGO fans even less seriously.

@janithernest3929 Жыл бұрын

Who hurt u

@jurtra9090 10 ай бұрын

AND?

@DoubleStrike-ye6tw 2 ай бұрын

@@jurtra9090Your arguments suck and aren't worth listening to.

@YeahTheDuckweed Жыл бұрын

Bro was reasoning gate not a combo deck? I would say ddt was like "aggro" or something

@esekay3648 Жыл бұрын

People don't realize we don't look at yugioh as in formats we look at it simply as chess vs checkers. There were problem cards but they just made more broken cards

@willlumley1377 Жыл бұрын

As someone who got his ass handed to him back in the by a Madolche deck, the fact that they were little cute creatures did slightly salt the wound

@willlumley1377 Жыл бұрын

I will also say that he skips over the part where Act Man says that this is all just his opinion and that if there's nothing wrong with liking the newer formats and whatnot, they're just simply not to his taste

@ShyRanger Жыл бұрын

@@willlumley1377 I mean... yeah, it's an opinionated video, of course it's just ActMan's opinion. Does that mean he needed to say it, and does that mean MBT had to say he said it? All takes, good and bad, are opinions and tastes, you shouldn't need to say they are. And MBT not pointing it out is missing on some big piece of information.

@silenceyouidiot Жыл бұрын

@@ShyRanger I'm more annoyed at the dismissal that Actman was never involved in the scene, and he's a "boomer." Sure, Actman has probably been off the game for a while, but a quick look shows he's played with Farfa and Dzeef **4 years ago.** Just because Actman isn't a Yugioh channel doesn't mean he can't give the most basic take that we here from every other Yugi-tuber.

@noahleach7690 Жыл бұрын

doesnt that just make your fragile tho, not the cards poorly designed

@gayjebus4079 Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but I'm not sorry you're wrong about pendulum in your opinion on that is bad and as a member of the pendulum summoning community you have been restricted from your access to feel the flow

@YeahTheDuckweed Жыл бұрын

*OFFENSIVE!*

@TrueHavoc13 4 ай бұрын

That's a zexal catchphrase

@gayjebus4079 4 ай бұрын

@@TrueHavoc13 I know but you obviously don't swing into action

@Toby-Wan_Kenobi Жыл бұрын

While MBT is pretty much entirely correct, his holistic approach to the video give an immense gatekeeping vibe that really kills the vibe and just says "because you dislike my hobby you are meaningless" like the Actman isn't a human being that just looks through rose-tinted glasses on a part of his childhood. He really should've gone by each argument and layed out a counterpoint rather than heaving insults at editing styles and not recognising that non-YGO players first reference point for the game is the anime; that of which Actman did recognise and use to algorithm boost

@ShyRanger Жыл бұрын

Check out his response to Rarran if you haven't. It's much more nuanced, mainly because Rarran's issues with YGO are more nuanced. Also considering Act Man is calling MBT a plague and going on a hate brigade... he didn't exactly do himself any favors.

@Toby-Wan_Kenobi Жыл бұрын

@@ShyRanger I did watch that. Very well spoken by Joseph and as you said far more nuanced to appropriately respond to Rarran with agreement as well as well informed counterpoints. I feel like that should be the standard though as calm responses like his to Rarran convey a sense of understanding and rather than hostility. If both parties are hostile, nothing gets solved, but if one or both can be calm, collected and be accepting of the opposing opinion, then a good middle ground can be achieved. I think Farfa's reponse to Rarran sums this up well as, although they clearly ended on good terms, Farfa made his arguments, whether intentional or accidental, quite aggressive and rather than defending Yugioh, he often attacked magic

@silenceyouidiot Жыл бұрын

@@Toby-Wan_Kenobi Am I misremembering, didn't Actman say he tried to privately DM MBT and MBT passed him off? That's pretty in-line with the gatekeeping, Farfa at least spoke with Actman (though the two have played Yugioh together before.)

@Jimpipecigarbear Жыл бұрын

Note to self. It seems like Act is now hating on Diablo IV. Not watching the emotional vampire. (Can not help it. Bad first impression of that person's channel.) Plus not in the mood to poison my algorithm with haters of different stuff.

@DevastatorsPissed1 15 күн бұрын

I thought Gravekeepers were the first successful archetype.

@NewtBannner Жыл бұрын

I seriously loved this video, Joseph was ruthless, toxic, but overall he was right … press 1 if Cap needs a “one bad day” video Edit: Cap is the old man that complains about the younger generation and the rest of the yugitubers respect their elders and just talk about how great Cap is 😂

@ShyRanger Жыл бұрын

9:50 Sorry Cap but you're wrong. MBT never said GOAT was the best format, he said it was the first good format.

@amodsr Жыл бұрын

I think what MBT might be doing is a call back to when gemini elf came out and everyone used to call them lesbians because of the times. (at least thats what happened where i played friday nights when the card came out.)

@ShyRanger Жыл бұрын

I could b wrong, but I think the first time MBT mentions Live Twins he did think they were lesbians, but he got so much backlash from people saying "No they're not lesbians" and "You can't say that without proof" without giving proof they aren't, he kinda made it a bit.

@amodsr Жыл бұрын

@@ShyRanger and now just like turtles, it's lesbians all the way down. Just layer of lesbian on lesbian.

@hiddenmaster6062 8 ай бұрын

40:20 I think Links before the this master rule ruined the game. Pendulums were just normal summoning on crack or if normal summoning and special summoning had a baby. Yeah, going second sucked extra bad back then. But at least we didn't have years of extra deck summoning kneecapped entirely for the sole purpose of nerfing pendulums' ability to pendulum summon out of the extra deck. This bricked damn near everything. Now archetypes needed their very own link monster to do anything with or they're just fucked. If you had no link monster you better hope the likes of Labrynth can carry you cuz you are DONE. And many of the archetypes couldn't put down more than one monster, normally, per turn anyways. AND their respective link monster was often hot garbage. Fuck that shit bro.

@DoubleStrike-ye6tw 2 ай бұрын

Dude in the stream is constantly bothered by the most milquetoast insults known to man.

@lordloud5639 Жыл бұрын

Bro when I was a kid only way I could get cards is stealing 😅

@pissingspeedrun 3 ай бұрын

The order of chaos packs were not safe when I was a youngin, I loved inzektors and wasn’t gonna let money stop me

@elin111 Жыл бұрын

Konami evidently still tries to pander to the normies given they insist on DM era retrains every chance they get

@casualtheeduelist Жыл бұрын

Because the normkes pays more moeny for sealed products. Make sense to pander who peiple who pay for sealed products than people who mostly pay second hand single cards from a webpage

@blastchaos4286 Жыл бұрын

DM and every other era retrains, especially since Series 11

@cheesycheese7100 3 ай бұрын

Plenty of modern players enjoy the nostalgia as well

@ronintoadin9192 Жыл бұрын

Mbt jealous cuz act and farfa are friends

@nehuenmutiozabal6339 Жыл бұрын

Saw his live reaction to Act man's video and yea, I can see trough his bs he was Jealous he wasn't called to the video-that he had much more subscribers than him and that he was "talking shet" about his "job" Best of all was Act man responding to his criticism on a stream with Farfa and he took it pretty chill