The Meaning of Conclave

[@Seercho]

I think it's important to realize the "twist" at the end is meant to recontextualize everything you've seen during the film, in particular all the laborious subservient work that the nuns and women have to go through for the service of the male cardinals and bishops with next to no recognition for their effort, but like the last shot it's the women who get the last laugh they are in control now.

[@adamjessiem.8945]

@@Seercho I agree, although I'm not sure I had such a cynical view of what representation probably meant to the women. Certainly they would gain equal representation and recognition. Certainly they would be able to make their voices heard in the upper levels of the church. Certainly their silent suffering would now be spoken of. What I disagree with slightly is your wording: reading the wording of your comment would give me the impression that the women snatched the opportunity before them to gain power and control and are now in a position where they will crush their opposition. I think the point that the new Pope was trying to make in the ending conversation with Cardinal Lawrence is that the new Pope is in a position to represent both men and women because of his experience of the word. I took the ending as an ending where men and women are now on equal footing, not one where the power dynamic had completely flipped. Does that make sense?

[@ListenAway]

hahaha love the first thing you said