The Mercedes 190E We Should've Gotten - One Take

A few months ago we featured a drive in a bone stock, U.S.-spec Mercedes 190E. It was fine, and felt solid, but it wasn't...fun. It didn't explain the legendary status of the 190E. Then we were offered this one, which is lighter, stiffer, and a bit faster.
The 190E is a very important car in history, because without its existence, we would not have gotten fast sedans like the M3, the RS4. This is the car that started it all, a car that won on the track and forced BMW to build the E30 M3.
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The Mercedes 190E 2.3 16v is the stuff of legend. It is arguable that without its existence we wouldn't have cars like the M3, RS4 and S4. Mercedes spent 6 years and many billions developing it, building it strong enough to race in WRC. That never happened, but that engineering gave us a strong, over-built car that was quick, comfortable, and fun to drive. It was a compact sedan that rode like a Mercedes and had a heart at the track. It's an important car, and finally, we get to drive one.

[@JasonCammisa]

To answer some of your questions, Zack: US 2.3-16s had only 3 options available (sunroof, which was no charge, heated front seats, and rear headrests.) They came fully loaded with A/C, climate control, power seats etc and weighed 3030 lb (Mercedes' figure. The test cars from the magazines were right around there.) Euro cars had no "packages" - they were built a la carte. So this car isn't actually "missing" any items, it was just ordered without. And for perspective, the outside temp gauge the owner was talking about cost DM 180 for early 1985 models. Sunroof was DM 1290, rear dome light was DM 80. Regular A/C was DM 3330 (automatic climate control like the US got wasn't available on the Euro 2.3-16. On other models, it was a staggering DM 4000. All of these prices are plus tax, which was 14% in Germany then. So think: A/C was DM 3800 on top of a car that cost DM 55,150 already. The US car cost $38k the next year when it debuted. Insanely expensive stuff...

[@laowhy86]

Man I want a 190E Cosworth Evo II

[@timmietz]

laowhy86 there was one for sale in Germany in October 2018. €125K euro.

[@jacebeleren429]

Are the import rules flexible in PRC?

[@timmietz]

Jack Greaves Where is PRC? China?

[@jacebeleren429]

Yep, PRC: Peoples Republic of China, ROC: Republic of China aka Taiwan.

[@timmietz]

Jack Greaves i don’t know. Have never been there.

[@MatrixDiscovery]

God damned..Mercedes made a handsome car back then...

[@fakealexstrong]

NO_EYES_ON_ME they really did!

[@Erikbotos]

Agreed!!

[@microchrist6122]

Brunno Sacco baby

[@richardhstratton]

Mercedes has always nailed it. But yes the 190e is classic.

[@Zero_Ninety]

190E is a classic, vastly superior to the first generation C-Class.

[@esaedvik]

Damn, the exhaust note is really nice right at the start :o

[@Royahmar]

9:08 still waiting for that queued drive by.

[@Lilbswag1000]

Lmaooooo

[@Oetti]

me too

[@Grenyas]

Lovin' that interior.

[@fondfarewell2]

Damn that thing is clean.

[@Erikbotos]

jacob portillo agreed

[@zkljaja]

Compare this 4 cylinder sound and the new ones :)

[@WelcomeToTheMadness]

Thou shalt not slander the E30 good sir! PS: I do want a 190E also.

[@AustinMBecker]

Both cars are pretty awesome!

[@Andy-bm6zo]

@@AustinMBecker not only does an E30 look & handle better, but its much easier to mod, & they easily make more power. This guy has a fucking grey market, eurospec, tuned FBO 190E & he's making 210 to the crank.... its making like 175hp to the wheels, & god knows how much cash has been dumped in that mediocre at best, money pit.

[@AustinMBecker]

@@Andy-bm6zo I agree with you, but I do like that the 190E is more unique than an E30. Seems like so many people are modding E30's and E36's, and the 190E is kind of a unexplored space. But you are right about the money, but there is quite a bit stuck in this car.....

[@MrCdrant]

If the goal was simply to build a HP freak, they wouldn't be in a 190e. People fall in love with a center car and want to make THAT car the best it can be.

[@sbmerc044]

Always liked Mercedes, especially old ones. I feel like I’ll take a look at 964’s and these in a few years time.

[@marcnobel3938]

Senna bought one from his own money ... The car was just on another Channel (STG).

[@jameskramlich5775]

Props to the owner for a well sorted car with thought out modifications

[@19chucki74]

The 190E was known as the 'Baby Benz' back in the 80s. Now, it's a performance and cultural icon. The 2.3-16 and Cosworth Evo II made it better. The AMG Hammer made it outrageous. I wanted one, still do.

[@Duranggobr]

for me THIS is the most iconic Mercedez-Benz car that represents the badge ! Perfection !

[@rogbrown1458]

Hi I totally agree that's why I have 4 190e s.rog. Pacific sunset records.

[@jasonmorahan7450]

I'll make a proper driving video of mine when it comes back from the ECU modernization next week, which should be looking at around 280hp, up from about 230 with the 80s spec KE-Jet. Mine's based on the 2.6/M103 instead of the Cossies, obviously not even remotely stock anymore but at the same time it's not technically modified except for a cam swap, the rest is just machining of stock for track days. So yeah, big power locked up by old tech in these extremely well made motors. In fact the stock head flows so good on a bench there wasn't much more than a clean up to do for "more power than a track n/a setup is even capable of achieving out of 3.1 litres" as the racebuilders put it, despite my efforts to throw as much money as they wanted at it if it would make a single horsepower more. Nope, it already does was the response, spend the money elsewhere to get it, already flows more than you could want. A completely stock 2.6 with nothing but the ECU modernization kit (to allow fuel/spark mapping), returned around 30hp increase following a dedicated dyno retune so that's roughly how much power is locked up in real terms by a Commodore 64 era ECU and lacking of modern sensors. I don't think it was just the W201 project Daimler was busy over-engineering at the time, they were kind of doing it with everything mid-80s, motors too. I read an article about the Cosworth M102 contract by Daimler and why pedants mention it's not a Cosworth engine or even a Cosworth design, it's pure Daimler based upon a Cosworth proposal using a detuned version that was more closely based upon the vanilla M102. That would be because in the article they mentioned the motor Cosworth gave back to Mercedes was a 280bhp fire breathing monster which was completely undrivable on the road, a pure track engine. Mercedes said no thanks but cheers for the idea and went and made a severely detuned version they could put in road cars. The Evo 190E motor is more reflective of the Cosworth design, which has the fuel cut off rev limiter set at 8500rpm and is designed to never really get below about 7000rpm during track work, although in delivery specification actually has paper performance identical to a regular 2.5-16, but it isn't, not even remotely the same engine. I mean it doesn't even have the same bore/stroke despite the same displacement. Vanilla 16v have of course the standard CIS-E fuel cutoff for any DOHC motor at 7200rpm (whilst all SOHC CIS-E are 6200rpm), and this goes for VW, Ferrari, Audi, Mercedes, any that use the system (a popular mod on SOHC CIS VWs for track work was simply swapping out the ECU for a DOHC one to raise the rev limiter and popping a more aggressive cam grind in, the closed loop narrowband just accommodated the AFR requirements all by itself so it was literally a bolt in 70% horsepower increase you won't see in any other kind of stock engine). The piston/rod tolerances for all 102/103/104 engines is actually 7200rpm continuous among the lot, rev limiter is purely breathing related by single/double cam. Evos of course, well, think 9000rpm before you're ever going to actually grenade a piston and on the track these were actually putting out a reliable 280bhp all day long. I think the best AMG tuned pro track 2.3-16 got somewhere around 230bhp and I've heard of vanilla 2.5-16 with EFI conversions getting 240, keeping in mind those older CIS versions are tech restricted by modern standards, so have further untapped power sitting around. The trick about the CIS-E3 they use is the end user lockout of the period, no OBD plug and operator retuning or anything like that, they were given a set tune at the factory and this was never altered and can only be repaired. As for the ECE as opposed to exports (whether NAM or PacRim), the dial to allow various spark maps for different fuel octanes is like a precursor to the knock sensor and self adjusting spark that allows different fuel grades in modern EFI motors and will simply compensate via the knock sensor. The engine is still designed for a specific baseline grade for best tune, which for all period M102/103/104 engines is German pump premium 96RON as commonly available there during the 1980s. The chambering, cam lobe shaping, exhaust excavation, the entire mechanical tune, all fuel/spark mapping aside is optimized for this premium grade unleaded, which is equivalent to modern 95RON (metric countries) or IIRC American 91 pump grade. Back in the 80s higher grade unleaded was also available but harder to find at the pump, hence Daimler engineers zeroed in on the most commonly available premium for best performance as a design baseline for the best flame-fronts and thus volumetric efficiency. Now you could dial up the ECE for 98RON or even 102RON (Shell Ultra) for more aggressive spark, mainly affecting low-mid range spark advance for heavy loading. One characteristic of all W201 era Daimler engines is that they do not wake up in terms of breathing until well beyond 4000rpm, all of them do it, not just the Cossies. The M103 is just as bad and so is the SOHC M102. It's a Euro character of the period, lazy town performance with a mechanical rather than electronic sport mode for highways, again like a precursor to a modern technological feature, what you do, instead of pressing a sport mode button on EFI is select your gearing to keep engine speed above 4000rpm and it's a sporty engine in terms of breathing, but for fuel conservation and best emissions you keep it well below this, drive it like a granny but don't expect any kind of throttle response below that 4000rpm, none of them have any at all although they still have a relatively high VE for the period down low, kept stoich by the closed loop narrowband. This duality is most obviously reflected in the throttle body, bigger than an 85 Mustang 5.0 litre on the vanilla 2.6 M103 for example. Oh yeah, it wants rpm to get some decent intake airspeed. But the real reason for the ECE fuel dial is for driving across Europe in the 1980s. Go to Czechoslovakia and velcome to Russia mein comrade, pump grade is now 89RON and I hope you brought a spare Mercedes engine, you'll need it if you didn't have a switchable fuel grade feature they decided to build in for just such an occasion. The ECE allows settings for 91RON standard unleaded and 89RON low quality fuels you find in countries that have oil/fuel import or distribution issues, some of Asia at the time, Eastern Europe, etc. For the exports they did something else, which was delete the fuel selector switch and some sealed wiring to accommodate it and make it work up near the ECU. Reason for that is the tune was set for the available fuel grade in the export country, set by 3 resistor variations depending on the country. NAM and Japanese exports got the 740ohms resistor for 95RON, Oz and Burma or places like that had 89RON "standard" unleaded sold alongside Super Leaded fuel at the pump in those early days of unleaded so they got a different resistor, 0ohms IIRC, whilst a couple of years later Oz got better quality "standard" at 91RON and got a 260ohms resistor for that fuel. Those countries didn't get Cossies or AMG variants (which were pre-merger but dealer optioned), because these can't be run safely for long periods on grades lower than 95RON and had to be "grey imported", then you'd have to go find fuel for them or use additives. So firstly, despite the ECE switchable fuel grades a Cossie (or AMG/Brabus/etc. tuner engines), should not be run for long periods on any grade less than 95RON (91 pump American) or it'll cause problems. It's more like an emergency feature because the design fuel isn't available, whilst for the vanilla motors in the same cars a lesser grade isn't ideal but they're not likely to be always operated up around 5500rpm as an average engine speed 100% of the time you drive them, typical loading and engine speed is far lower. That said, you modify even a vanilla 102/103 and then drive it north of 4500rpm for good throttle response all the time and you'll want to be running premium even if its base tune is for standard grade like an Oz import. Well there's so much more to be said but I'll leave it there. Can't wait to get mine back. It was just sort of equivalent to a series 1 AMG A45, more power feel but probably less actual performance (stock CIS was way out of tune). Now I'll be expecting to hand one its arse and keep with a C43.

[@erazer1395]

I normally don't like German Cars but the 190 is one of the few cars a really like and would even consider buying if I get one for a got price.

[@davect01]

What a unique car. Very knowledgeable owner. Those harnesses though 🙄

[@JakeSelkirk]

Color clash

[@Russell_and_Rosko]

No its how he mounted them. Rookie move.

[@Rabidus289]

The boys at Hot Rod say that if you mount your harness like that, it will cause lower back damage if you crash.

[@mlcobra55]

@@Rabidus289 Those harnesses are safe they have anti-submarine technology. Schroth Harnesses

[@Rabidus289]

@@mlcobra55 if that's true I should look into those for my 60s Ford.

[@amazoidal]

Ah, made when Mercedes wasn't a "Endless Money Pit".

[@h2oaddict28]

Expensive cars have always been expensive to maintain, nothing has changed. Mercedes still makes great cars for the European market. Shame Americans only buy the very expensive ones and then complain they cost more to maintain at the stealership than their cheap unreliable domestic cars.

[@EthanL21800]

@@h2oaddict28 we get ours slightly less than European people would I believe

[@h2oaddict28]

@@EthanL21800 huh?

[@amazoidal]

When Mercedes owned Chysler, the 300 series got a MB rear end. Still on all the RWD platforms like the Hellcat, Demon, etc.

[@amazoidal]

I have 3 Priuses. Most reliable cars I have ever owned. Going over 200k on my 2005.

[@Lucas-ck1po]

I like this new presenter's tendency to start nerding a little deeper about whats in these cars...

[@Tsalinger]

Its a waste of money and time. Just put in a stand alone ECU and tune a US spec car any way you want. Clown town. Better yet take a M104 put in a reliable Garret turbo and get 400hp without a sweat.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

@@Tsalinger It's not that easy especially if you want to race in any heritage classes. They only allow certain modifications and the Jetronic ECU that came with the US models is impossible to change in order to tune the car. Turbo? Sure. But you're still looking at $5000. I'd rather have an NA 2.3-16 because it's a more akin to the original. Yes, this car is a money pit to us but if he wants to do it and he enjoys it more power to hime. Frankly I love it the way it is. He should go all out and get the EVO II body kit.

[@МихалычБомж-Евроспек]

Finally a review of a well maintained car! Note that nowhere in the video he complanes about loose steering, sloppy shifter etc. (Even with factory rubber bushings shifter is very nice and direct, as long as the bushing are changed inside actual shifter as well and not only on the linkage) Mercedes was never intended to be sold as an “excercising mill”. It was a luxury compact bahn burner, for those who could afford. 190E technologically makes E30 look loke a Lada.

[@lilman1317]

I've got a 93 300e on air ride currently. I've owned nearly 100 cars/ trucks in my life and my Benz is no doubt the funnest most reliable and surprisingly snappy car I've owned. I drive 40ish miles one way to work up and down some serious canyons and have never had to do a single thing other than fluid changes and tires... Truly underrated cars!

[@AustinMBecker]

I love the car! Always had a sweet spot for the 190E, great build quality and racing heritage. Those wheels look perfect in my opinion. Wonder how much he spent overall on this build....It would be great to see a full modification list as well. Such a cool example of old Mercedes :)

[@loganthomas459]

Ayy does this guy have an Instagram? Would love to see more of this car

[@mattcaudell9972]

@jc_mend

[@dennizdennett6757]

Got a 2.6 just sitting for the last 4 years. It needs hella work and it hurts knowing it could look like this

[@markichiyama2481]

The 190E 2.3-16, like the E30 M3, are incredible gems. It's the car that Mercedes chose to officially return to circuit racing; was famously driven by a young guy named Senna to victory over legendary F1 champions; and set world endurance records at Nardo. Congratulations to this owner for showing that 80's four cylinder technology can still be relevant today.

[@YoSuey]

My first car was a Malachite Green 190e 2.3. Blew it up on my bday and bought a 2.6 with the bday money a week later. Can't wait for my 3rd.

[@josemiralrio1746]

I got a w202 and these older mercedes in my opinion handle great. My w202 has a great turning radius and handles superb

[@mateokovac2642]

True. The 190e handles even better than the w202

[@VoIPPortland]

Had the 4V version with the aero bits back in the day, late 80s. Handled like a go cart.

[@Redworld1980]

I had a 85 Euro 190e 2.3-16 as well - 3:03 was especially true. I couldn't find parts.

[@peskachina]

My father used to own a 1985 190E with manual windows and no AC. But it was the 2.0 and didn't last long, after a couple of hot summers in southern italy we had enough.

[@donjuanmurray4957]

Man, I own a euro spec 97 c230 (built in 96) sounds really great, and pretty good power for an i4. So far 225k and still runs brand new. Smoothest car I drove till this day

[@lewisjones3738]

Is the c230 atmo or supercharged? Looking at putting the 2.3 supercharged into my 190E.

[@boylefranks]

To be fair, very few people under the age of 60 have ever ridden in a Mercedes in the US with roll-up windows.

[@YungJosh50]

Euro-Spec > U.S. Spec You're welcome.

[@pollumG]

Not always. But JDM > Euro spec...

[@alexstromberg7696]

We're talking Mercs. Not Type Rs. You're also a JDM fanboy

[@pollumG]

Us spec in the new Supra has more bhp than the euro spec

[@alexstromberg7696]

@@pollumG were not talking Japanese cars. We're saying that EU spec mercs is the best version

[@dominicancheif117]

Danka shien

[@Savanna7]

This thing is fire. However I have been under a rock my whole life because this is the first time I have seen a harness connected to the baby seat brackets haha

[@magnetic0314]

It's potentially very dangerous in an accident... harness will try to pull you down... can compression fracture your spine

[@jameskramlich5775]

Schroth 4point is Anti-Submarine and DOT approved- harness has a breakaway/expanding point to allow the body to move as if in a factory seatbelt during an accident and to prevent spinal compression.

[@jpesparza330]

This car has not baby seat brackets. That's bolted directly to the chasis

[@theedrizzler]

I am sure this car does no have baby seat brackets as it is old. I think they started added those after 2003ish

[@of_lion22]

Now you need to find a Group A inspired Volvo 242 Turbo, Zack. Done up in the same "Stock Plus" fashion.

[@jcmendoza1545]

I agree!

[@FoolishPursuitForce]

Those need to stay as the world's worst-kept secret

[@bobbysbeats5249]

I have one since 1987, 1985 v16 2.3 E :) great great great

[@milkok.2867]

@20:31 Got a flashback with the late '90's Sony car stereo chime there!

[@TheAdventureLog]

Mile Mile my e30 makes that noise when your turn it off too

[@mcnbns]

Beginning of video: no awkward handshake End of video: 5 solid minutes of car geek gushing GJ, Zack

[@04dram04]

lol the owner was trying to hold back a smug smile, when he said his car was much better than US spec

[@El_Scorcho_]

04dram04 so would i. “ Muahahaha American peasants “

[@Mr888rM]

thats probably the best sounding 4 cyl ive seen on the channel.

[@kingofohio5689]

My dream car will be a mb 190e 3.6 brabus 👌

[@ToxiicGas]

This was my first and last Mercedes car when I was 17, was cool but I don't like the newer Merc's.

[@fettifredy]

Ima bimmer guy and i want one of these bad lol

[@armandutan5901]

Some privateers used this car for Group A Rallying in Europe back in the 80s instead of Group B

[@Punisher9419]

You really need t try the Evolution II. Really impressive car though.

[@lamboferruccio]

@stuttgartclassics has a nice kit for this called FrankenCIS, retains all the CIS hardware and adds tunable MicroSquirt EFI, totally transforming the car.

[@stuttgartclassics]

Richie Rich pretty sure JC is running this awesome machine on our Dkubus FrankenCIS tunable system 🤘🤘 nice video guys. Love the soundtrack of that exhaust too 🤘🤘

[@lamboferruccio]

Figured as much lol

[@stuttgartclassics]

Richie Rich also in California if you want FrankenCIS reach out to JC he's the guy!!

[@lamboferruccio]

stuttgartclassics thanks bro I’ll look into it 👊🏼

[@mtxmotors2263]

@@stuttgartclassics great kit you have there sir!

[@meteormedia7021]

One of the most awesome cars I've ever driven. They just don't make em like this anymore.

[@WBush-uc9pe]

20:36 Bwahahaha! Zack's One Takes always make me laugh.

[@VirusTornado]

cringe dude

[@WBush-uc9pe]

​@@VirusTornado Maaaaaybe you should talk to your therapist before you publicly cringe at jokes about erect penises... Or just look at a penis - the fuckin' things are (objectively speaking) hilarious!

[@christopherhylton8569]

the 190 e is a timeless beauty

[@rogbrown1458]

Absolutely I have 4 190e s. Rog. Pacific sunset records .

[@mateokovac2642]

True

[@dmitriyk.7461]

I used to have a 1992 300E when I got that car it was 42k on ODO it was custom painted in purl white with blue metallic. I sold it that Mercedes with 84k on ODO since that day I really missed that car I wish I didn't sell it.

[@jomaha9227]

It's dope watching you bomb through the canyons and that old-school MB star floating over the hood.

[@ryn0287]

Another w201,balanced car,pure fun,love the knowledge. Zack gonna buy one, like Jason Cammisa did :D

[@aky19832001]

Ayrton Senna used this car model to spank to every single race car driver on the track and beating legends. They were all making excuses except for Ayrton. He had great lines, and was a wiz in the rain.

[@kimbird6554]

alain frost was not to pleased .

[@aky19832001]

@@kimbird6554 he had every single excuse other than that Ayrton was just better.

[@ArtHotelRiposo]

Zack going full millenial looking for window switches! Love your work!

[@petescarport]

I just picked up a Euro spec 190e 2.0 5speed manual. I learned a lot about these the past few months but this video had a lot I didn't know. Starting to rebuild mine now on my channel and can't wait to get it back on the road.

[@DEEuroworks]

Great sounding Benz! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@gipsyavenger9829]

Love this car. Sounds awesome .

[@catfish_lude]

Hey hey hey.... It NEEEDS to be a 190D,.... IT NEEDS A OM605

[@elvergalarga3182]

There's an 87 cosworth in my area for 12k, is it a good buy? Should I be concerned about anything before purchasing?

[@JNAMOTORSPORTS]

He needs to recover those seats and change those belts

[@xzst]

What a sick car. Absolutely beautiful.

[@WBizarre]

Zack, with this car being so heavily modified, is it really in a position to "explain the legendary status of the 190e"? I'm reminded of Chris Harris' comments about the Miata: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWfamambnKt8p8k

[@BeesonsCars]

My mom had a 2.6 190E 1991 and I absolutely loved the car. It was quick for what it was and felt like a tank. Really reliable too.

[@ryandeketenor932]

Top Merc ever on One take. Beautiful machine

[@MZBallistic]

One of my favorite DTM cars.

[@swenekaf1141]

Thank people who keep those dream cars alive

[@WheelPrice]

Considerably one of the best eras for Mercedes.

[@kevinyarleque6739]

lmao @9:09 the disrespect to yourself

[@harrisj2278]

One of my favourite and arguably one of the coolest Mercedes made. I thoroughly enjoyed this video.

[@SicSemperBeats]

THANK YOU SO MUCH for showing auto tempest, I'm looking to buy a g35 coupe and im tired of going on like 7 different websites lol

[@richardhstratton]

G35s are pure junk. I owned a 04 g35x for a bunch of years. Motor was stout but god Dayum interior, brakes and suspension fell apart. Was really disappointed.

[@SicSemperBeats]

richardhstratton lol idiot. You have the sedan. I want the coupe. They have a totally different suspension, brakes. Also you have the shitty 04 awd g35 lmao. It uses the tiny breaks those were upgraded in 06. Either way they’re not the same rotors in the coupe. Do some actual research. This channel is for car enthusiasts not dumbasses

[@v10f1]

Needs more intake noise.

[@digimon916]

Tough cars. My buddy had one of these when he "tried" to be a car guy 😁. He drove it to the ground.

[@bennyfelix8717]

I had a euro 190e My first car was amazing

[@alexthompson5172]

when's the bisimoto wagovan coming? 👀

[@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo]

Fuck bisimoto................

[@nickrogers8606]

Miguel Garcia - Explain?

[@TheBb6prelude]

Nick Rogers he got gapped by a Honda. He’s just mad.

[@nickrogers8606]

preludeF20Bking looooooolllll drag em.

[@dongonzulman6478]

@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo what's your beef with Bisi?

[@mzondi1970]

what corbeaus are those? I am a big guy myself and looking for a comfortable set

[@jody024]

First time i watched the entire plug.

[@bobbyross2023]

I've always like this Mercedes body style and this car is badass cool!

[@shiftwrenchrepeat]

like a fun bar of soap! :) love the content! plus one from the shiftwrenchrepeat auto channel!

[@pereldh5741]

Great vid! Great job Zack

[@SFterps]

That’s awesome and that’s coming from an e36 owner lol

[@johnnygeorgopoulos4072]

Why do I keep punishing myself watching good cars with Zach driving them? Dude....SHIFT! 🤯🙄 Go buy a manual car and drive it, this holding one gear is absolutely dreadful, less talking, more shifting, drive.

[@AutobahnVault]

Cool owner of a beautifully sounding Cossie. I love my 2.5-16 Evo 1

[@chuckcribbs3398]

You have an EVO I??? Are you in Europe? Where did you buy it/import it???

[@yen-hsenliem5497]

Hi Mario. I still hate you. Just in case you were wondering. ;) lol

[@AutobahnVault]

@@chuckcribbs3398 I'm in Florida. Sold it a few months ago :)

[@chuckcribbs3398]

@@AutobahnVault Why didn’t you sell it to me??? Argh!!! 😅

[@meanwhileinthestudio]

So many lies told in this video. Bosch controller is the most modded ECU in the world. Parts won't swap? LMFAO. Compare CLK 300 to Chrysler Crossfire. Even the SLR McLaren had a NAG1 auto transmission, which is an old ass CHRYSLER part.

[@1000Enial]

Awesome Video! Could you tell me the mods that have been done to the car? I'm looking forward to modify my 2.5 16v and could really use the info, thanks!!

[@yellofury]

Love that profile. Especially the bonkers EVO 2 with the crazy wing.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

This guy is living my dream! Who is this guy? Why didn't you post his name? I looked up the engineering company but couldn't find them. Really interested in doing the same thing to my 2.3-16. Please provide info if possible.

[@92hotrodful]

I wish he would’ve kept the Plad interior

[@deviouslaw]

I want to like this more as an alternative to the more obvious E30 M3, but I just don't.

[@exoticarauto]

I had an 85 euro with the Karo interior as well. If your bored check out the video. Its a sweet one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXq4oKKjrdiohLM

[@ahemgee9542]

Not the 190E, the 190E Cosworth.

[@Pavel_Bazhnyov]

now that's a good one

[@MAGNUSGARAGE]

Isnt the angle of those seatbelts a bit too narrow with the rear seat mount? Id be worried of compressing my spine like an accordion with those things lol

[@larrylobster78]

18:13 he says with proper adjustments you can get same performance out of the american version as you can from the euro when i’m pretty sure in the beginning he said that wasn’t possible....anyone else hear that?

[@fastfew2]

The seat belts are not mounted correctly,the back should be mounted on a roll bar that is not lower than 4" below the shoulder to prevent spine compression in an accident...

[@naz.tanzeem5982]

You film a nice classic car,all we see is the white and yellow road markers and pictures of you guys in the car,how about showing the car lol.

[@MisterPeetBull]

You get all the shit cars. Lol Matt had u driving a fucking Corolla

[@karlopuma170]

Why couldnt you review a black one? They look so much nicer :P This color does not give it justice :D

[@arendvoogd7566]

can anyone tell my what kind of wheels those are?

[@philipphenke]

Search for seedshirt mb 190 nardo on google for some nice pieces of clothing. ✌️👍😉

[@swandonovan]

Why isn't the intake tube connected from the air box to the grill connected? Now you're just sucking in hot air from the engine bay

[@jcmendoza9660]

Swan Donovan Cuz it’s on the bottom of my list of things to do. It’s in my parts bin but have not installed it. Think of it as my own version of AEM or FIPK k&n hot boy intake.

[@swandonovan]

@@jcmendoza9660 nice car btw

[@swandonovan]

@@jcmendoza9660 totally just realized a local guy suggested that I talk to you about about cosworth parts. I messaged you on Facebook like a week ago, but you haven't seen my message. Hit me up on there or send me a friend request

[@Carl_JohnsonOGF]

This is my favorite merc