The Mets trade Verlander back to the Astros | Boomer and Gio

Joe Benigno and Gio talk about Mets trading Justin Verlander back to the Astros essentially conceding the season is over.
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[@nyfanjan8635]

Ohtani’s not coming to the Mets, that was never going to happen.

[@davidstockman7405]

Astros basically got Verlander for 29 million for 3 years, Astros love the Mets. Mets are paying the Astros to keep JV.

[@jerrscott6373]

Well, when you put it like that....

[@gfox9295]

Cohen has plenty of wealth to spread around a bit... I wish he hadn't sprinkled some on the Rangers before he tossed some leftovers the Astros' way personally, but hey... we'll take it. This enabled Crane to suck it up and pay Verlander SOME of that big contract. You know, the one he wouldn't match during free agency in the offseason when the Mets lured JV away with the big bux.

[@Scottie-gd7bo]

So giving up 2 of your top 4 prospects doesn't count?

[@grandwonder5858]

I love the way New Yorkers express their frustration with their sports teams! Such an entertaining drama to watch! 😂😝

[@raymondsublett3108]

@grandwonder5858 other than the Yankees and its been a while, not much to ever celebrate. In fact without the Yankees, NY reams are trash

[@LoDDEMOCIDE]

​@raymondsublett3108 our one real NY football team doesn't suck

[@knowsmebyname]

Me too. They are funny.

[@kevinmahon7848]

For 10 years I worked with diehard Mets and Jets Fans. The funniest People. Passionate.

[@vivarino1521]

I think it’s laughable that Mets fans actually thought they were gonna get Ohtani. Foh

[@ihatehers]

Mets aren't signing Alonso long term. He's gonna want $300 million. Not happening.

[@jerrscott6373]

We could be looking at the late 70s/early 80s all over again. That means, 95-100 losses per season with no direction or game plan. Hopefully, I am wrong on this one.

[@gfox9295]

@@jerrscott6373 I mean... that means another WS in about 5 more years after this kerfuffle... sounds like a good trade in the end? Just gotta be patient in the meantime.

[@quinnayers]

Nailed it, spot on.

[@lugnut78]

Cohen turning into wilpon

[@romanc.5074]

Yeah, Max Scherzer is talking as if he earned his money, No, you didn't.

[@grandwonder5858]

The only thing surprising to me is he still able to convince the Rangers to trade for his sorry a$$!

[@Thurmanatr16]

Not had Lindor or countless other FAs over the past 25 years.

[@jhondeno1294]

@@grandwonder5858sending Max and 36 millions for a Prospect 😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@addictedtoJB]

Facts

[@jrag9435]

I agree with the sentiment, but he earned his money the save as everyone earns their…he convinced someone to pay it to him. But he should not yap so much…it s a bad look. His mouth is the news not his performance.

[@jamesbuckley8917]

The Giants won 107 games in 2021, then only 81 in 2022

[@BlueOrangeNY31]

Sometimes the radio also are crazy with the shot they say

[@Dr._Mambo]

The Astros got Verlander for three years $30 mil for two prospects. F’in outstanding. Let’s go Astros. We have a window of about 2-3 more years.

[@TL2354]

They, not we

[@germannieto4501]

He's washed now

[@brando7266]

Verlander is shot, injury prone, will barely pitch 120 innings a yr,

[@gfox9295]

@@TL2354 it's okay to be so invested in your hometown team that some "we" and "us" talk slips out. He might also be speaking of the fanbase along with the team as one giant unit, too. But yes, in general, I try to speak about my fave teams in the 3rd person, as it can come off as pretty needy and desperate at times to use the first person plurals when referring to a team a person doesn't work for, play for, own, etc. But hey, we all like to belong to something bigger than ourselves, yanno?

[@CoachGibbyPodcast]

​@TL2354 if not for us there would be no team. So yea us fans can say WE all WE want

[@25yrsotj]

Can we trade Gio for a bag of mnm’s ?

[@angelo285]

I'll even take expired m&ms from 1945

[@michaelgallone7409]

Who is gino ?

[@newyorknewsjunkie8883]

No one’s forcing you to listen to him my guy. Hate watching is still viewership.

[@25yrsotj]

@junkie, did it ever dawn on you that I find listening to Boomer or Joe B entertaining 🤔

[@trustoryj6476]

I don't think ohtani wants the east coast they have their way of knowing

[@bigkilla2608]

The Yankees still haven't recovered after being swept by the World Champion Houston Astros

[@lannydante9390]

Thanks for playing the mighty KINKS!!!!!!

[@markmatulic9905]

Lindor and Alonso feelings? Let's be honest they can't even hit .240 they are part of the problem. Pete's focused to much on hitting homeruns instead of being a hitter. Both are immature and lindor is simply not a leader and is grossly overpaid. I agree though there's no reason why they can't sign good players next year while still playing prospects

[@marknoahsotelo316]

I’m in LA and every report I’ve seen and heard about Ohtani says he wants to stay on the west coast. He could have chosen the Yankees if he wanted NY but he doesn’t. Also, both the pitchers they traded are in their 40s, they needed to win now and they don’t have the lineup to do it so I don’t think they had much choice.

[@gfox9295]

IMO, he should be considering teams like the Astros and Braves, but I guess he doesn't think there's enough Japanese fanbases there. Fair enough, not west coast, so... enjoy the Ichiro experience in Seattle next, I guess?

[@1940underdog]

​@@gfox9295 Can the Dodgers even afford Ohtani, that's probably the only team, but with what the Dodgers already have doubtful, & it doesn't help that Ohtani want's more money than I can dream off.

[@gfox9295]

@@1940underdog I think we're gonna find out in the offseason. Based on something another commenter said around here, the Mariners probably can't afford him. So... stay with the Angels? Or move to the Dodgers? (if he really wants to stay on the west coast, those seem to be the main options... unless the Giants want to enter the chatroom, I guess)

[@vincedidiana5781]

You have to take a step back though. Even Atlanta did a few years ago. However, they draft impeccably, sign international guys who hit, and make phenomenal trades from their once deep farm system. That’s the franchise you emulate. Give it some time. Cohen is sharp.

[@splooshnoonley5620]

Because Mauricio is striking out way too much to be in the pros

[@Drfiggy]

Get Senga’s interpreter…! Hilarious

[@gr4phicpops69]

JOE B AND GIO TOGETHER IS GOLD

[@eincan1313]

As a long time Mets fan, I don’t understand all the outrage over the trades. I agree with the outrage over the season, it is a complete mess. But at this point why not deal two 40 year old pitchers, a 37 year old reliever and two minor parts (Pham and Canha). Cohen will be spend and we can turn this around quickly, but none of those guys are part of the future anyway.

[@randymiller6665]

Joe benigno has aged right before our eyes... ESPECIALLY for the people who remember him from the overnights. That's what being a Mets & Jets fan gets you

[@michaelgallone7409]

He's like 70 chief

[@randymiller6665]

& in his mid-fourties he started at WFAN. That's over 30 years

[@claydouglas2526]

I think he looks like retirement has suited him well

[@Joseph-lz5er]

Loved his overnight shows. I remember listening to his show on my Walkman all night until 4 am during summer vacation when I was in high school. Now I am 43 years old, probably the same age Joe got started on WFAN during the mid-90s when I was listening to his shows. Time flys.

[@brando7266]

And blowing don the con,

[@Tj11813]

This takes the cake for the most embarrassing season. Wilpon level catastrophe.

[@BlueOrangeNY31]

Delete your comment bro

[@gfox9295]

Come on, this isn't that bad... is it?

[@ketorising81]

Scherzer was a trash signing, and airing out private conversations was a trash move also.

[@reptilelicks9796]

I really like these 2 together

[@johnstrawb3521]

You really think player rep and union guy Max Scherzer had some obligation to tell Eppler and Cohen's lies when reporters asked him what happened during his meeting with them??

[@Thurmanatr16]

Same Old Mets. 1986 was 200 years ago…

[@steverunyon7240]

Do you think Ohtani wants to sign into a rebuild anyways? He was never going to the Mets to begin with.

[@gfox9295]

If you get Ohtani to replace Max and Verlander, I think the rebuild has been paused.

[@steverunyon7240]

@@gfox9295 the rest of the team sucks. Ohtani isn't going to a team that sucks. He has said he wants to win. Nothing about the Mets says winning.

[@professorFG]

I can't see Steve Cohen sitting back in free agency and not making an offer to Ohtani.

[@dancruz7845]

These guys are forgetting one very important thing… Max and JV had No Trade clauses and the Mets WANTED them to waive the clause… if the Mets tell them we going after Ohtani next year they would NOT have waived their no trade. Of course the Mets would make it seem best for them to waive the no trade by saying whatever it takes.

[@gfox9295]

Yep. I guess Cohen is willing to spend, but not willing to have Ohtani AND Max AND Justin all the books at the same time, eh?

[@WesleyParksTTV]

5:58 Michael Wacha

[@kevinmahon7848]

Steve Cohen is a egomaniac who has to be in the news. 55 games left and He pulls the Plug. 6.5 games from WC. Anything could happen. He is paying thier salaries for teenagers. Agents and Media are running the Game.

[@dennisvera2802]

THE METS ARE A MESS THEY GET THE WORST GM IN BASEBALL A MEDIOCRE MANAGER AND NOW THEY TELLING THEIR FANS TO WAIT TILL 2025 IF I WERE A FANS I WILL NOT SUPPORT THEM THEM AFTER ALL THEY QUIT.

[@jaybird8192]

Cohen's reading the book of Hal Steinbrenner: "How to con your fans!"

[@thomasramirez718]

Do I think Ohtani will come to the Mets??? No, but they will definitely go after him. When did max become the gm? And what the hell did you want them to do keep all these players that won’t matter in the future? This season is done. Im happy with the moves they did.

[@gerardamitranno8837]

Nobody’s talking about Diaz getting hurt , that killed us big time .

[@NoelG702]

Doesn't Joe know that Ohtani wants to stay on the west coast? Doesn't matter how much the Mets offer him.

[@gfox9295]

You're probably right. But everyone has a price. And he'd still be able to get all the Japanese endorsement deals in NYC that he has in LA. But yes, he probably likes being in a city with a large Japanese population (and being able to fly to Japan more quickly, too... too bad there's not a team in Honolulu, huh!). But mostly... I think he wants to win. Being close to family/friends/Japan is second, and money is third. But money is still on the list, so.

[@GetMoneyFuggBidges]

So you want a hall of famer to be on a losing team and just play as a spectacle for nothing? JV is after infinity stones not season passes

[@iunstoppable1]

Joe got the I'm old napkin in his hand

[@just.do.something]

Unless Steve and Billy told Max that just so he can waive the no trade clause.

[@xstugee]

Money talks, so if you have had it as I have...STAY AWAY FROM THE STADIUM and let the management KNOW how you feel. I just NEVER see anything like that happening here in New York. The fans must be suckers or stupid...they keep coming back for more and more of the same. The ball is in YOUR court.....DO SOMETHING!!

[@H-Town_83]

😂😂 Steph curry said the Astro's are the Warriors of Baseball.

[@gfox9295]

If only the 2010s Rockets were the Warriors of Basketball (instead of the actual Warriors being that, I mean). o_o

[@dgarcia0426]

I believe mets told Sherzer that to make him wave his no trade clause, it worked

[@TL2354]

Try English next time

[@dgarcia0426]

@TL2354 tell your mother that 🤣

[@johnshepard313]

​@@TL2354his sentence is fine 😂

[@mikekellum6238]

The gist of this frustration will be repeated in late December concerning the Jets.

[@tomleban5296]

Huge disappointment, no question. I didn't expect we'd punt 2024. Being just 6 games out of a Wild Card... with Scherzer, Verlander, Senga and Quintana, if they got into the playoffs, they absolutely could have made a run in the playoffs.

[@jacksmith5692]

Joe raging great!

[@rocketsfan6116]

"Greatest everyday player we've ever had." (On Pete Alonso, currently hitting .220 and we're in August)

[@rocketscience777999]

Is it true Ronny Mauricio is in the witness protection plan and no one can find him? That would be one of the few legitimate reasons he's not playing on the Mets right now.

[@just.do.something]

I mean if some of these prospects due in fact become stars, everyone will change their tune pretty damn fast. The worst team money could buy...one thing I can't remember is did the Mets pivot to sell those players? I think those players were having such terrible seasons nobody even wanted them. At least the current traded players had enough value to bring back some top notch prospects.

[@jwvvvv]

By trading Scherzer and Verlander, the Mets got three top prospects and all it cost was money. Steve Cohen has plenty of money.

[@garyswearingen9387]

They wrote a check there ass couldn't cash, trying to buy a championship.# GO STROS!!!

[@knowsmebyname]

Cohen and Eppler could have lied to get the 2 pitchers to accept trades.

[@ThomasLynch-ti7wr]

Why would the Mets trade for a couple of SS prospects thats one position you are solid.

[@bernardking13]

Ok but guys your missing the big point. Where are all these supposedly BIG TIME PROSPECT playing???? All you have left is OF position. So all these kids for 2 spots???? Like it's bs

[@salvatoremuoio4736]

Hey guys, Centereach is a great town. We had Harrows and a McDonalds and everything.

[@levelbasegaming5740]

Can someone please check GIO's blood pressure?!?!?! We need him to stay around as long as humanly possible.

[@mecomingtomo6933]

It's not Steve's fault, I think it's more on eppler I believe, we know Steve will spend the money, it's just in the wrong places

[@culturenuity797]

A guy batting 220 is the best everyday player you ever had. Really

[@Tj11813]

It's sad how the league has changed so much. I've never in my life seen so many sub.200 avgs over the last few seasons.

[@vt8811]

@@Tj11813Pitching is better plus batters are trying to hit for power.

[@dannyvargas01]

We came into the season with high hopes and are ending the season feeling like a bunch of dopes. C'mon Uncle Stevie, open up the wallet again and bring us the tools to be competitive in 2024.

[@susanmenegus5543]

👍 he will.

[@TL2354]

@@susanmenegus5543 How do you know?

[@marcoperdomo283]

You guys don't get it you can't buy a championship anymore.

[@marcoperdomo283]

@@TL2354 look at the crap team you put together enough said.

[@vincedidiana5781]

Agree. Prime example this year why it doesn’t work. Yet they’re begging for it to happen again.

[@jadezee6316]

Thanks for reminding me how great radio once was when Joe B....and Mike and the Mad Dog ruled the FAN........and Sports Talk!

[@neilshah2867]

mets are smart for not going after just big money free agents but i am pretty sure we will go after ohtani for sure. Mets are def going to go after this guy!! we need an outfield and we need a pitcher. we get both with ohtani, if ohtani is willing to come to the mets we will go after him. but then again even if we dont, i do beleive the mets are on right tracks with building the team for future and basically building a strong core.

[@steves9964]

What is this staff going to look like next year? I'm not even sure who's available at this point other than Ohtani, but it's probably going to be buying/overpaying for two or three older guys again. Separate topic: that new "old" Jet helmet is gorgeous. It needs to be brought back again as the primary.

[@josephbaffi639]

im done with mets how do you say we arent going all in til 2025

[@AdrianHernandez-df1zq]

The honeymoon is over with uncle Stevie…. Now it’s Steven cohen from now on….

[@Tj11813]

Just Cohen. Like we used call the Wilpons.

[@jerrscott6373]

A couple of World Series appearances on the Wilpons watch. Just sayin'!

[@BlitzFlre]

These guys are hacks.

[@scottlewis8681]

1962 Mets all over again.

[@jerrscott6373]

Not quite but give it some time. As structured at this precise moment, the Mets have a better chance to lose 95+ games than to secure the last playoff spot. Playoffs? Don't talk playoffs!

[@gfox9295]

Some have said it feels like late 70s-early 80s Mets... you're saying it feels like rewinding way back to the beginning. Take it from an Astros fan who had to wait his entire 40 year life for just one WS victory* and be happy with that. Either the 1969 Miracle Mets are on their way if you're right... or the 1986 Mets are on their way if the other guys are right... both sound pretty good to WS-less fanbases, yanno? Take heart.

[@scottlewis8681]

@@gfox9295 Had the opportunity to see the old Colt45's and young Astros play in Philla and New York. To this day I still believe the late Don Wilson threw harder than many of the 100 mph pitchers of time past. J.R. Richards was very close also.

[@gfox9295]

@@scottlewis8681 Nice. Those legends are before my time but I've heard much about all of them. The story of JR Richards is a particular tragedy. It's a shame he wasn't able to pitch (a lot) longer. I started paying attention to the Astros as a young boy taken by his dad to go watch Nolan Ryan at the Astrodome.

[@deewilson3239]

Im glad he said something better than being lied to ....Pete is going go too

[@mwebtex]

The Mets should’ve dumped Scherzer like they did but keep Verlander then go for Ohtani. Even at age 40 Verlander is coming around to his old self and is still looking like a #1 or #2. That combination of Ohtani and Verlander would’ve been great. Verlander can still pitch well and players comment about how good Verlander is for the clubhouse.

[@Brhoward31]

This ISNOT Typical Mets, typical Mets don't recognize the problem and try to add by trading Mauricio for a bag of nuts

[@larry309]

Players today need change constantly to perform

[@turnthree5617]

How are they going to bring in revenue next year? This was moronic.

[@DaveTheTurd]

Highly entertaining....

[@part6133]

You know the Mets did make it to the world series once in the last 10 years. Still should have kept those veteran pitchers because other teams could get injured and Mets could heat up. Sue the owner Mets fans class action

[@just.do.something]

Well, this is still extremely differnt from the Wilpons era. Steve paid top dollar to get the best prospects in the package.

[@adamspeaks6223]

I'll believe they won't go after Ohtani,when they don't go after Ohtani.I believe they'll make a big play for Ohtani.

[@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace]

Verlander was a horrible signing to begin with. Pitchers around his age can fall off a cliff real quickly

[@jerrscott6373]

That's why you never get too close to the edge.

[@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace]

@@jerrscott6373 all I am saying is you don't guarantee more than one year to a pitcher over 35 years old. That is the age where most pitchers will start falling off the cliff.. doesn't matter who the pitcher is or how good he was in the past! Do not trust old arms!

[@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace]

@@jerrscott6373 If you have a young staff and you're rebuilding.. I can see getting an older veteran to help lead the staff for a few seasons... but NOT when you're trying to contend!

[@144Donn]

These are the steps to rebuild: 1. If the weakest link in the chain is the Bullpen forget having a clown car filled with subpar pitchers! It is time to demand of pitchers to go 8 or 9 innings! Have a small BP like it used to be. Pitchers are the most important defensive position and we downgrade the position each pitching change at an ever more critical point in the game. Aren't we supposed to upgrade defense the later it gets? 2., Focus & work on fundamentals NOT hitting HR's. Base-running, stealing and getting aggressive on the base paths. This makes a team more drought resistant, creates energy and elevates and energizes every aspect of the game. Loosens up the team and tightens up and unnerves the opposition. 3. No more ridiculous Free agent contracts. They seldom work and then you are saddled with a player you do not want. Pay the guys who grew up in your system and keep them if they are great players. This breeds good will and a sense of belonging and family which creates a good team feeling. Too many comings and goings this year made the players not care about the Mets as they were focusing more on themselves. We need to instill Mets fandom in the players. After a horrible year- it behooves us to stand back and consider our mistakes and see the opportunity ahead by correcting the mistakes. Maybe we will have an edge on other teams who have not yet figured out what we have.

[@TL2354]

Basing this on the team you've rebuilt?

[@144Donn]

@@TL2354 Look, I threw up my hands in frustration like everyone else. Steve tried everything and it was a disaster! Right? We have got to address the most glaring problems. Bullpen and them having a terrible habit of not showing up. And I just heard on MLB Network the idea that the Mets now have a revolving door. We have to rebuild the team with these concepts in mind! It is a new day for old time values!

[@nicklengyel6710]

You had two of the great pitchers and the Mets trade them away. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. What dumbest thing to do?

[@gerardamitranno8837]

We need a manager with guts ! Buck coming out of the dug out with his arms folded , enough please .Keeping in pitchers too long into games . They better sign Alonso .

[@neilshah2867]

NY fans have an issue of this win now win now only, instead of building a foundation for the future, they talked so much crap when jets were building for future, and now look where jets are. we have a owner with big bucks, he can go after free agents anytime, but its more important to build the younger prospects, and to fill gaps when the core is built we can go after free agents then, to complete the team, but not now, while we still need to build our young core.

[@juon2gamez679]

Astros fan here. As a fan I would be pissed also by these moves. All that money and quits on a bad season. He could of tried again next season and made some additions.

[@newyorknewsjunkie8883]

I’m genuinely curious to know, how do you feel about losing those prospects for Verlander? Not that this is indicative of anything, but I’ve seen a lot of Astros fans who are upset at losing them, even though you guys are getting Verlander at a premium.

[@sonChunk]

@@newyorknewsjunkie8883it always hurts losing prospects but my thinking is the Astros hired a new GM who’s known for scouting. Hopefully with this draft class and the next couple we could at least have a respectable farm system. Also the window for the Astros is probably another couple years so you gotta do what you think is right to win

[@juon2gamez679]

I agree with @sonChunk. I also think it’s a hit or miss with prospects. Either they turn out great or not.

[@gfox9295]

@@newyorknewsjunkie8883 I think most of the Astros fans saying that are just wanting something to bitch about, but... if there's any real regret in their hearts, it's that they think Verlander is about to fall off the table now that he's over age 40, so they think the Astros overpaid with those 2 prospects. Our farm system was already pretty dry, and now it's pretty much desert bone dry. But no, most Astros fans are happy to have JV back for another shot at the title in 2023 and 2024, esp with 3 of our starting pitchers out the first half of this season (Lance McCullers Jr... out all year, hasn't thrown a pitch... Luis Garcia... they (MLB) made him stop rocking the baby, he injured his elbow after a few weeks of his new pitching motion, he's out all year, TJ surgery... and Jose Urquidy... minor injury the day before or after Garcia, IIRC? at least he's almost back, but he was out like 6-8 weeks? ouch). Anyway, with all our SP woes, the RPs are being overused in the first 4 months of the season and cracks are starting to show in previously dependable arms. BUT... Some of our offensive player injuries are lightening up and we've gotten Altuve and Yordan back (still no sign of Uncle Mike, sadly)... so really, we just needed a bit of SP and RP help, and... in walks Verlander and Graveman. I say, let's give it a shot. But I'm not thinking this is gonna cure everything that ails the team in one week, tho.

[@nickc7494]

Sell everything

[@goewey11]

Do we believe they were telling max the truth. They knew they were sending him out the door

[@LORDMEDI39]

Lol maybe they can get back Matt Harvey Jason degrom and Noah synagogue

[@tornado154]

why wouldn't they atleast offer ohtani some absurd contract? not saying he'd come here but atleast just give him a godfather type offer and maybe he'll say yes

[@priestsonaplane2236]

$700 million for ohtani

[@tornado154]

@@priestsonaplane2236 as insane as that is he’s probably worth it

[@55darrwill]

Lol the Dodgers east.

[@martinconde9537]

I don't know why anybody with a thinking. Brain would be against what the mets did. Look, the Mets were going no place a lot of their players under achieved. So what do you do, you cut your losses? And they got some great prospects who could be the Stars of this team in the next couple of years. How could anybody be against that for a couple of 40 year olds? Yes, volander could still pitch, but he's forty years old. You have to always build for the future. This is not football. And the mets got terrific prospects. If the Mets did nothing and did not make the playoffs. Then where would we be at the end of the season? We would have none of these top prospects in our farm system which we have now. And I'll say it again for 2 forty year olds for crying out loud.

[@xKillZone99]

max just isn't a leader or great club house guy, was happy to watch him pitch mostly last year but glad he's gone, I think Verlander coulda been kept, only reason to validate trading Verlander is if you go all in on Ohtani, if you're rebuilding having a guy like ohtani would instantly give you someone to build around for the next 10 years

[@gfox9295]

Well, whether it was intentional or not, Cohen has set up an even more epic Texas Rangers vs. Houston Astros August+September AL West crown chase, so... if nothing else, he's creating content across MLB. I know that's small comfort for Mets fans, but... oh well. I do hope the Mets get Ohtani. That would be cool on so many levels. Good luck!

[@xKillZone99]

@gfox9295 I agree with that, personally I don't think Ohtani leaves the Angel's, I feel like they won't risk him going to the open market, cause in the open market Cohen has the potential to outbid anyone, but if ohtani hits the open market and the mets decide they don't want him then the fans will without a doubt turn on the team and not support them.

[@gfox9295]

@@xKillZone99 you think Cohen would go to a full 1 bil if that's what it took? Most people saying 700 mil or 800 mil (but those are mostly people saying for west coast teams to spend that much).

[@xKillZone99]

@gfox9295 no west coast team will be able to pay that much

[@gfox9295]

@@xKillZone99 well, that's gonna be interesting, then. Not even the Dodgers, eh? (the 700, I mean, not the 1b)

[@anthonypastore8378]

Love joes take on the jerseys so true gotta do something then we get them smart man I made that mistake with Sanchez so definitely going to wait and see with my next jet or met

[@brutusmax]

YUP!!!! We're getting hosed!!!

[@quinnayers]

Alonso is not the greatest every day player we've ever had.... He's one dimensional & just hits a lot of homers, NO WAY is he our best every day player EVER.

[@Joey_Pachangas]

As a Mets fan I want what the Braves and Dodgers have……PROSPECTS!! I want this team to start to get some talent in their minor league system. Plus when the Mets start winning we can easily trade for a big time bat or pitcher because we have the prospects to do that

[@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781]

When the Mets start winning? Lol. So you want prospects so you can trade them?!?!? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Joey_Pachangas]

@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 not necessarily but if the Mets build a better minor league system it can only lead to a sustainable success for a very long time. Once the Mets start winning again if they need that extra bat or pitcher they would have the prospects to do that without depleting it

[@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781]

@@Joey_Pachangas dude I understood what you said.

[@raysfan4211]

They basically r paying 90 mill for prospects lol😂😂

[@jerrscott6373]

They don't seem to want to focus on that part. And, of course, there is no guarantee that any of these prospects will cut it at the major league level. If that happens, we are looking at a very long dry spell before they will be competing in real time.

[@germannieto4501]

I find it impossible to believe they're not going to make a run at Ohtani. Ever think they just told that to Scherzer so he waives his clause?

[@nathanhansen1846]

Keep complaining. I’m sure Steve loves it

[@neilshah2867]

I love you Joe, but you gotta admit they are looking to build for the future, they were not going to win with these veterans we had, it was only going to get worst when they got older. and then we would have to wait and have no assets to build the farm system. i think the mets are headed in the right direction, all i can say is compare them to when the jets signed Joe douglas, and finally started getting rid of the old guys, and build a young core through good draft picks, and look where they are now ready to contend, and still growing. The mets can be really great in a couple of years and great for many years to come, if they start building the team young from now. we are set at catcher i can say that!! first base alonso, SS lindor. 3B and 2B is up for grabs, unless mcneil plays one of those postions, you can put MCneil anywhere. outfield nimmo is set, and we can move mcneil out there, or get one of these younger guys to come up and play right field, and put mcneil in left, and get acuna at 2B. we got a ways to go to build out pitching again, but we are headed in right direction.

[@mtp4430]

Don't be so quick to judge management. We weren't winning with these guys anyway. The plan was to win now while bolstering the farm system. Now that our plan has failed, go in a new direction, and focus on the prospects. We're building up the farm system, which needs to be top notch if we're going to compete year in and year out. You can't survive on free agents only. You must have the homegrown talent also. Cohen tried his best to buy us a playoff team Now, while retooling the farm. But it didn't work. Hey man, nothing ventured nothing gained. Developing players that can compete on this level is paramount. BTW don't write off next season so quickly.

[@steves9964]

Your comment is way too thoughtful, reasonable and measured to be on a forum like this. What's lost in all of this "highest payroll in baseball history" nonsense is that they're vastly overpaying for a number of older pitchers. Premier talent entering their primes doesn't hit the open market like it once did, with the exceptions of Judge and now Ohtani of course who both bet on themselves. If they had ANY viable young arms it would be a different story.

[@gfox9295]

@@steves9964 so IOW... the thing to take issue with was the big contracts to Max and JV in the first place, not so much the way they traded them away.

[@steves9964]

@@gfox9295 100%

[@mtp4430]

@@steves9964 I couldn’t agree more 👍

[@Playmakerrob]

No MAURICIO THANK YOU.

[@victortomasetti5186]

Steve Cohen performance performance of a owner this year makes the wilpons seem like geniuses.

[@jerrscott6373]

We got to a World Series a time or two on the Wilpon watch.