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@desmondclark3193
@desmondclark3193 Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story is, leave people alone who don’t want to be bothered.
@joaopaulo-tz5rv
@joaopaulo-tz5rv Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂yes
@TheeMattSmith
@TheeMattSmith Жыл бұрын
But, but, but what about Jesus?????? 😂😂😂
@Indigostarfly
@Indigostarfly Жыл бұрын
Very true!
@desmondclark3193
@desmondclark3193 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeMattSmith you mean that guy who claimed to be a God or at least the son of God. Yet he was subdued by primitive technology. What about him?
@KittensgiveMorbogas
@KittensgiveMorbogas Жыл бұрын
@@desmondclark3193may as well be a Harry Potter story 😂
@nightowl3582
@nightowl3582 Жыл бұрын
I have a hard time feeling bad about what happened to him. He was blinded and misguided by his own zealotry and should have stayed away from those people.
@peteshaw1739
@peteshaw1739 Жыл бұрын
Jebus made him do it....he's up there now sipping wine and laughing, waiting for the tribe punishment by the lord...
@dianasohn2515
@dianasohn2515 Жыл бұрын
@@peteshaw1739oh please
@diaryofafreebitch
@diaryofafreebitch Жыл бұрын
This. 🗣️
@avamaria8447
@avamaria8447 Жыл бұрын
lol @@peteshaw1739
@fastnetcyber3979
@fastnetcyber3979 Жыл бұрын
@@peteshaw1739 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@fundifferent1
@fundifferent1 Жыл бұрын
Looks like he was being enabled and encouraged by many around him. "Uh huh, yeah, you can do it, go ahead! I won't be going with you, but yeah, you go do that! Bye! Good luck!"
@LarsenTV1
@LarsenTV1 Жыл бұрын
They say he wasn't stupid. I'd beg to differ.
@ale_papa
@ale_papa 8 ай бұрын
I felt the same emotion. Trying too hard to make a moron seem like a hero.
@07Flash11MRC
@07Flash11MRC 7 ай бұрын
I think "stupid" is the wrong word. More like "delusional" and "arrogant"...
@ale_papa
@ale_papa 7 ай бұрын
@@07Flash11MRC TBH, I wish I can use more accurate words to describe him... but Im afraid youtube will ban me.
@jarrettalyssaneville1122
@jarrettalyssaneville1122 2 ай бұрын
@@LarsenTV1 I think he was courageous and faithful, lesser men will perceive those attributes as foolishness
@SomethingSomethingg
@SomethingSomethingg Жыл бұрын
Chau: I want you to meet Jesus! The Sentinelese: You first!
@D-ei1pc
@D-ei1pc Жыл бұрын
That's awful but hilarious
@SomethingSomethingg
@SomethingSomethingg Жыл бұрын
@@D-ei1pc Thank you! Lol I just hate these missionaries. They're so arrogant. To go to a country like India where their religion predates Christianity by thousands of years and tell them that they're wrong is the epitome of narcissism.
@kellypat125
@kellypat125 Жыл бұрын
@@SomethingSomethingg I don't think they're all narcissists. If you really, truly 100% believe in Jesus and the Bible (which most of the Christians you know probably do not), then you care about the salvation of others and you could be driven to do things like this. I don't know enough about this guy yet to make an opinion.
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee Жыл бұрын
@@kellypat125 And yet you have no evidence that such salvation even exists.
@kellypat125
@kellypat125 Жыл бұрын
@@LucareonVee No, I do not. I was speaking on a factual basis about Christians and was not speaking about myself. One can defend Christians without being one (I'm more agnostic).
@constance4375
@constance4375 Жыл бұрын
Jesus didn’t tell him to do it, his religion did.
@Awakegloriousbride
@Awakegloriousbride Жыл бұрын
Significant difference between religion & leading with Holy Spirit, Those that know that Mormonism is a doctrine of men both through study and revelation knowledge by way of the grounded doctrines of Jesus Christ will know what they know. PERIOD.
@wargamingwarships
@wargamingwarships Жыл бұрын
hubris
@IsaacHozz
@IsaacHozz 10 ай бұрын
@@Awakegloriousbrideso Jesus got him killed. Got it.
@Xarfax321
@Xarfax321 9 ай бұрын
Neither did: His psyche did. His Ego did!
@vladimirprotein3275
@vladimirprotein3275 8 ай бұрын
​@@IsaacHozz Jesus saved him once, when the arrow hit the Bible instead of him, he should have taken it as sign from lord to gtfo..
@VictorRochaGaming
@VictorRochaGaming Жыл бұрын
May they live in uninterrupted peace forever.
@Paine137
@Paine137 Жыл бұрын
Barf.
@jflinn7401
@jflinn7401 Жыл бұрын
In fairness, Chau's wish was that they might live in uninterrupted peace for all eternity.
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Жыл бұрын
@@jflinn7401 His wish, intentions and his actions certainly don't overlap.
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee Жыл бұрын
@@jflinn7401 But in a place that doesn’t exist. 😋
@madnessintomagic
@madnessintomagic Жыл бұрын
@@jflinn7401No. It clearly was not his wish. He was willfully trying to destroy a peaceful society for selfish, misguided reasons.
@PatrickWanisPHD
@PatrickWanisPHD Жыл бұрын
"On his final visit, on November 17, Chau instructed the fishermen to abandon him. The fishermen later saw the islanders dragging Chau's body, and the next day they saw his body being buried on the shore." - Wikipedia
@pradhyunmudaliar6606
@pradhyunmudaliar6606 11 ай бұрын
I thought they would have eaten him.
@sizaiiii
@sizaiiii 10 ай бұрын
They ain't cannibals actually even the pigs that researches or anthropologies have given them they just buried the pig after killing it​@@pradhyunmudaliar6606
@connieholle7920
@connieholle7920 Жыл бұрын
He should not have gone . He may have exposed the people to something that they have no immunity from . I have no sympathy . Your own decision and selfishness do what was not allowed caused your death .
@bbalderston125
@bbalderston125 Жыл бұрын
Great point on immunity. He could have easily infected the entire tribe.
@Andrew.W.19
@Andrew.W.19 Жыл бұрын
Happened to native Hawaiians. 1800s started with 200,000 native Hawaiians and colonial diseases killed over 160,000 Hawaiians near extinction.
@stevenjenga7171
@stevenjenga7171 Жыл бұрын
Colonization starts with missionaries being sent to soften the ground by preaching about love,hope selflessness etc.Then the army follows. In Africa it started that way.When the Africans closed their eyes to pray when the opened them their lands were gone and were being ruled by the European invaders. This tribe might be stone-aged but apparently they are smart to keep invaders away
@savonhayden1822
@savonhayden1822 Жыл бұрын
Glad you said it!
@troydeondaltonjr
@troydeondaltonjr Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯
@Raja1938
@Raja1938 Жыл бұрын
Apparently this is what happened early on with this tribe. They weren't originally isolationist & xenophobic, but became so because 19th century Europeans went in and would abduct their people.
@blank4381
@blank4381 Жыл бұрын
They had already suffered this they migrated here bcoz of that.
@mrstanskaggs1
@mrstanskaggs1 Жыл бұрын
actually the missionaries come and instill the love of Christ and what it means to be saved, then the non-believers come and destroy the lives of everyone that they can subvert. It has happened everytime in Central and south America as well as the colonies of Africa.. Christians bring dignity, and non-believers bring slavery or worse.
@anakirola9204
@anakirola9204 Жыл бұрын
I do not think it is right to go to an indigenous society and tell them what to believe in. It always ends tragically. It is sad this delusional thinking is still happening!
@dianasohn2515
@dianasohn2515 Жыл бұрын
Agree it’s so selfish there’s plenty of beliefs out here yet he wanted to go push his on a group of ppl whos not influenced by the world. If a belief was real they would know without his influence
@muse3324
@muse3324 Жыл бұрын
i don't think it's right to say someone doesn't have the right to preach to anyone..see the irony?..he may not have been 'telling them to believe' but definitely may've planned to influence them, which he has the right to
@capnjack7668
@capnjack7668 Жыл бұрын
@@muse3324 No he doesn't. It's a disrespect of their culture. This tribe is known not to welcome outsiders. That this arrogant, entitled, millennial, American male thought he knew what is best for these people says it all. His intrusion into their lives is much more about affirming his identity as an adventurer than anything else.
@rickyjames4228
@rickyjames4228 Жыл бұрын
Historically your wrong most place that have had indigenous society and people have told them what to believe in has gone wrong for the indigenous either their have been taken over by force or got killed by germs those places are no called 3rd world.
@ShneekyShnail
@ShneekyShnail Жыл бұрын
and they had the right to kill him for trespassing @@muse3324
@pawshands9706
@pawshands9706 Жыл бұрын
Leave people alone.
@Badluckgirl11
@Badluckgirl11 Жыл бұрын
I just hope it doesn't make people go after the islanders :(
@anomalocaris540
@anomalocaris540 Жыл бұрын
@@Badluckgirl11 if that documentary is as propagandistic as the trailer, it will only encourage more Christians to try the same.
@anomalocaris540
@anomalocaris540 Жыл бұрын
@@ethangrace4948 that's too abstract of a concept. we don't think he was an idiot for willing to die for what he believed in. we think he was an idiot being the thing he wanted to die was was stupid. that tribe is known to kill outsiders and have reportedly made it clear that they do not want contact... "but what if i tell them any jebus???" i would respect an anthropologist going there to study them more than someone who's main intention is to erase a culture.
@KnarfStein
@KnarfStein Жыл бұрын
​@@Badluckgirl11No harm will harm the islanders, because it's illegal to venture near that island and it's Indian policy to have the Navy patrol those waters to prevent outsiders from approaching. So Chau's death was entirely the fault of his arrogant religious fascist beliefs.
@katashley1031
@katashley1031 Жыл бұрын
​@@ethangrace4948risking your life to bring a fake doctrine to people to never asked for it is absurd, not brave or noble. Pure ego. And it's not what MLK Jr was referring to at all. He was smarter than that.
@juliestillman5615
@juliestillman5615 Жыл бұрын
The people were wise to defend themselves. Uninvited evangelism to recruit more followers to make you and your friends feel more secure in your specific version of mythology is not courageous. It is selfish, disrespectful, and arrogant, even without taking into account the criminal recklessness of carrying deadly diseases to people whose bodies have other immunities. It's tragic that this boy was so brainwashed he couldn't find a real way to help the world rather putting so much energy into trying to persuade strangers that his mythology was better than theirs. Sad that his parents and church leaders did not teach him better.
@ethangrace4948
@ethangrace4948 Жыл бұрын
It is love that compels us friend, not the need for more security. Being forgiven is a free gift from Jesus. Because we are loved so deeply we can't help sharing that love with others. We don't believe the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything. We believe our creator created us for friendship with himself. In addition John Chau prepared himself not to spread disease to the North Sentinelese by doing the following: Getting vaccinated against a wide range of diseases. He received 13 different vaccines, including those for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, hepatitis A and B, typhoid, yellow fever, and cholera. Quarantining himself for a period of time before approaching the island. This was to reduce the risk of carrying any contagious diseases.
@TryTheBLT
@TryTheBLT Жыл бұрын
@@ethangrace4948 Throughout history the Roman Catholic missionary, and afterward Protestant missionary, brought only misery to the cultures they forced their message onto. By their fruits you will recognize them. No mission has been holy, and no mission has resulted in a peaceful, loving, accepting, just, or equitable environment. Religion is antithetical to freedom of thought and democracy. Chau did not use common sense or Godly wisdom. He reaped what he sowed.
@katashley1031
@katashley1031 Жыл бұрын
​@@ethangrace4948love has nothing to do with it. It's brainwashing and ego, pure and simple.
@leicanyc8609
@leicanyc8609 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. The arrogance is unfathomable.
@martinsloan9785
@martinsloan9785 Жыл бұрын
Johns passion for Christ has touched you. Maybe not in the way it has touched me, but touched you non the less.
@Raja1938
@Raja1938 Жыл бұрын
"The Prime Directive is not just a set of rules. It is a philosophy, and a very correct one. History has proved again and again that whenever mankind interferes with a less developed civilisation, no matter how well intentioned that interference may be, the results are invariably disastrous." -- JLP
@TheThirdWiseMonkey
@TheThirdWiseMonkey Жыл бұрын
The Lesson: Mind your own business and leave others alone.
@msangthrope5396
@msangthrope5396 Жыл бұрын
That was incredibly arrogant and foolish of him to think he could change uncontacted people. Sorry that he died,but he did it to himself.
@isioma57
@isioma57 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Super arrogant
@Ponderingfr
@Ponderingfr 10 ай бұрын
@Loveabounds. they don't need to be bothered by any faith, they're doing just fine without it.
@GeorgeeJunglee
@GeorgeeJunglee 8 ай бұрын
@Loveabounds. You can have faith without being foolish, and I don't even mean faith in a god...
@daneryan1879
@daneryan1879 Жыл бұрын
“As ever, the true address of the missionary is to the self-satisfaction of the sponsor and the donor, and not to the needs of the downtrodden.” - Christopher Hitchens
@leicanyc8609
@leicanyc8609 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. And we don’t even know if they are downtrodden. Seems like they are perfectly happy as they are.
@annagarlington3447
@annagarlington3447 Жыл бұрын
What? This comment is way off, and shows that the author has not read many biographies of people like Mary Slessor of Scotland, who was instrumental in abolishing the practice of killing twins at birth in Nigeria.
@AndrewPalme
@AndrewPalme Жыл бұрын
@@annagarlington3447 you talk with your arrogant superioty complex your blind as a bat
@DonkasaurusNZ
@DonkasaurusNZ Жыл бұрын
​@@annagarlington3447 she might be the exception. This Hitchens quote may have been referencing Mother Teresa, who infamously cared a lot less about the people in her care than we were led to believe.
@biffalobull2335
@biffalobull2335 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@DonkasaurusNZ She wasn’t an exception CT Studd, George Muller, William Carey. I could go on and on about others who were instrumental in getting evil practices abolished or who cared for the orphans and the poor on shoe stringed budgets We know little to nothing of this type sacrifice today Many in that time period left their mission field a better place; they just didn’t have the media options we have today to be discovered
@D-ei1pc
@D-ei1pc Жыл бұрын
I believe he tried to get there once or twice before and was warned by local government, that the island and people are off limits and dangerous. I don't think he should have been killed for it but to be so arrogantly reckless, it's hard to feel much sympathy.
@carsondenny1986
@carsondenny1986 Жыл бұрын
Yes this is the popular take. And no one is asking for your sympathy. Also, you haven’t even seen the film.
@D-ei1pc
@D-ei1pc Жыл бұрын
@@carsondenny1986 Asking for sympathy? Who cares if no one asked for it or not, I'm giving my opinion as are you. Also, doesn't matter if I seen the film or not. I read the news on what happened and I'm commenting on that. It's a documentary based on a real life event.
@seeme-now
@seeme-now Жыл бұрын
@@carsondenny1986don’t invade people country, community. FAFO. He was told not to go by the local government …twice. Entitlement got him killed, it’s sad but his own doing. Happens in the US, trespass on people’s land, good luck.
@Indigostarfly
@Indigostarfly Жыл бұрын
A real life event and down right arrogance.
@jeffmays3159
@jeffmays3159 Жыл бұрын
So the Sentinelese pre-date Christ by thousands of years, but somehow this guy thinks they need him and Jesus? He really didn’t think this one through at all and it cost him his life.
@alvaroescalante1167
@alvaroescalante1167 Жыл бұрын
Your missing the point We all need Jesus buddy... the belief of a God that created and oradioaend everything has been there before time itself God is and was and will always be... Jesus is God manifested in the flesh so that makes this statement incoherent because jesus was already.. before humanity itself
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee Жыл бұрын
@@alvaroescalante1167 Could you provide evidence that such a god actually exists outside of your favorite fairytale book?
@floppinfrogs4468
@floppinfrogs4468 Жыл бұрын
Do you actually believe nothing created everything? @@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee Жыл бұрын
@@floppinfrogs4468 No. I, in fact, don’t believe that everything in existence was created. Nor do I believe that there was necessarily a time when literally nothing existed. Now, do you have evidence to the contrary?
@dianasohn2515
@dianasohn2515 Жыл бұрын
@@alvaroescalante1167Jesus is not every one belief!!! They lived for years with no knowledge of who Jesus is so no we all dnt need him! Cse clearly he don’t exist to some of us
@dfa3366
@dfa3366 Жыл бұрын
Imagine some nut case over and over again trying to trespass on your property. You protect yourself and that’s exactly what these islanders did.
@msangthrope5396
@msangthrope5396 Жыл бұрын
When they shot through his bible,that alone should have told him to back off. He was so religious he missed all the messages that his god was trying to tell him,not to go there.
@Dondonn8xm
@Dondonn8xm 10 ай бұрын
​@@msangthrope5396Our God. It's kinda like how you guys miss all the messages when you try to force your secular Western values on Muslim and African countries. How many Americans have to die in bombings before you get the message?
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee 10 ай бұрын
@@JohnJohn-nc8xc I bet no one is pushing anything on you in the name of atheism. 😘
@not.ordinary
@not.ordinary Жыл бұрын
Just watched this documentary....what happened to john is so sad but i wish he would have left to US after the first attack ... atleast he been alive today,my deep condolences to his parents
@JadedJarvis
@JadedJarvis 10 ай бұрын
Not as sad as John Jones who got buried in the nutty putty cave. Actually both are sad...
@not.ordinary
@not.ordinary 10 ай бұрын
@@JadedJarvis yeah 👍🏽💯 but John Jones didn't know he gonna stuck in there and yeah it was painful death ever .....coming to this guy he knows he gonna die yet he decided to go ....both are sad stories tho
@linda10989
@linda10989 3 ай бұрын
Where did you find this? I've been looking everywhere...
@not.ordinary
@not.ordinary 3 ай бұрын
@@linda10989 I've watched it in some website not sure what it was .....my bad
@linda10989
@linda10989 3 ай бұрын
@@not.ordinary nah, that's cool 👍
@Publiclighthouse
@Publiclighthouse Жыл бұрын
These tribes/cultures have survived for generations without the need for Jesus or any other outside religion. Why is it up to us to help them see different? Why are we so impelled to preach that our “God” knows best and is using us as a vehicle to spread the word of whatever our religion is?
@katashley1031
@katashley1031 Жыл бұрын
Brainwashing and hubris.
@joaopaulo-tz5rv
@joaopaulo-tz5rv Жыл бұрын
They wanted to buckbreak them
@Indigostarfly
@Indigostarfly Жыл бұрын
It all boils down to EGO and ARROGANCE!
@Manahyde
@Manahyde 4 ай бұрын
​@@joaopaulo-tz5rvLmao
@FranP25
@FranP25 3 ай бұрын
Because the bible says so bro
@barrymccaulkiner7092
@barrymccaulkiner7092 Жыл бұрын
Darwin Award Recipient.
@avamaria8447
@avamaria8447 Жыл бұрын
I have none, I am lmao @@Spiritdove64
@anthonygeorge5063
@anthonygeorge5063 Жыл бұрын
@@Spiritdove64he doesn’t deserve sympathy 😂😂 why should he get sympathy?? For facing the consequences of his own actions??? He got what he deserved and the only people who miss him are other cultists that would be better off joining him with their sky daddy in heaven
@grissom2023
@grissom2023 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AndThenShwarmaAfter
@AndThenShwarmaAfter Жыл бұрын
aaaah Natural selection, gotta love it!
@mogadon7
@mogadon7 7 ай бұрын
U S may use this as excuse to bomb the island.
@Flexicor
@Flexicor Жыл бұрын
"Not hearing about Jesus is violating humaan rights". Lol ok lady
@surfwriter8461
@surfwriter8461 Жыл бұрын
That's the twisted mindset of someone who is seriously deranged by their religious extremism and self-righteousness. Her view is both sick and insulting.
@jamisedenari2449
@jamisedenari2449 Жыл бұрын
Let her go and talk to them next. See what happens.
@jadedrac0
@jadedrac0 Жыл бұрын
Human rights are arbitrary, ethics are arbitrary without objective morality. If the Christian world view is correct than indeed its a violation of human right to be denied the chance to hear about it.
@surfwriter8461
@surfwriter8461 Жыл бұрын
​@@jadedrac0 That is totally specious argumentation, and pretty incoherent as well. Your initial premise is subjective and just plain wrong. What is "objective morality"? Do you mean mandated moral conduct or rules of behavior based in some objective foundation? Do you mean it's objective morality if it comes from a higher power with full authority like some deity you accept without question? It's very fuzzy thinking. Take a kind of existentialist world view of morality, like Sartre: I legislate for all mankind with every one of my actions. (That's the golden rule with some tweaking.) To behave well toward others has inherent satisfaction and sets the stage for others to reciprocate. Human rights are basic and universal.
@jadedrac0
@jadedrac0 Жыл бұрын
@@surfwriter8461 tell the rich and powerful who oppress the poor with chicken feed wages that “doing good “ is better. In a social Darwinism world view they are successful at securing resources , spreading their seed so that genetic legacy continues and having a higher chance of survivability. Heck a lot of them have doomsday bunkers. Why should they stop?
@katashley1031
@katashley1031 Жыл бұрын
I will never understanding being evangelical about any religion. I love my spiritual path, would never even consider trying to push it on anyone else. The whole evangelical thing is pure ego and brainwashing, nothing more. It's hard to inaguine this level of personal hubris and basic lack of common sense.
@kellypat125
@kellypat125 Жыл бұрын
Being evangelical is at the heart of being Christian, though. It says in the Bible to go and spread the good news to all people. If you truly believe, you should want to do that. It's not about keeping it to yourself, that could be seen as selfish in the Christian religion.
@lekhasound
@lekhasound Жыл бұрын
​​​@@kellypat125the problem is obviously when one religion claims it's the singular valid path to a higher truth or that one way is somehow better than the other. It's nothing but preying on those who one religion thinks is disadvantaged or doing a favor to people, who are in most cases there in the first place because of the ravages of such organized religions. These are not "unsaved" or "unreached" people as many Christian databases categorize them (and me). It's not a peaceful world view one can have being on a high horse about one path. There is no difference between saving someone in the name of self serving love and conquest
@alvaroescalante1167
@alvaroescalante1167 Жыл бұрын
Not all religions and spiritual paths lead to "heaven". We cannot all be right. There must be one way and one truth.
@kellypat125
@kellypat125 Жыл бұрын
@alvaroescalante1167 we can all be wrong, though. Or God could have spoken to different people at different times, thus creating these religions we have. Which I think would be kind of weird (even slightly mean) but definitely possible. Who knows with God!
@lekhasound
@lekhasound Жыл бұрын
​ @alvaroescalante1167 that is like saying there is only one way for a river to flow from the mountain into the sea. Nature, which according to you was also created by a God, has all the answers. Just gotta look with open eyes and without blinders.
@cindiareddy2370
@cindiareddy2370 Жыл бұрын
If the Indians on the main island had the same courage, India would have less problems after 281 years of British and 300 years of islamists. I hope we can learn from the sentinels to defend our culture when forced upon with out will.
@nishantujain
@nishantujain Жыл бұрын
surely you know so much about indians and their problems right? and who are you to talk about courage?
@blank4381
@blank4381 Жыл бұрын
Don’t say Hindus are cowards we have survived for 1500 years from these people who want to limit their knowledge by putting a full stop saying this is it this is the truth,they destroyed native Americans,Europeans and Africans and they say this is the truth.
@Mclovin96X
@Mclovin96X Жыл бұрын
1.8 billion islam and 225 million islam in india and not one have guts to mess with india now .
@T.C.Logistics
@T.C.Logistics 2 ай бұрын
See, Islamist rulers defeated indian kings before forcing their culture.sentinals don't need to face an army which is ready for war.
@alexandrathrift3805
@alexandrathrift3805 Жыл бұрын
The Mission was used as the title of a film in the late 1980s with beautiful music by Ennio Marraconi.What a pity they used the same name which will now get confused in all the searches.
@brothersupreme8844
@brothersupreme8844 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. These 2 titles should be tied together. I don’t see how someone could miss how they are about the same thing. H mission is about how the hutch went in and subjugated indigenous people. The underlying idea of both is the misguided followers are not necessarily evil or wrong for that matter. It’s who is behind it all. Zoom out to see the bigger picture.
@StormX6
@StormX6 9 ай бұрын
They changed the title to “The Mission to Contact”
@gingernightmare9152
@gingernightmare9152 Жыл бұрын
"In the 21st Century telling 1st Century fairytales." Best quote from the film.
@Samuel-hw4op
@Samuel-hw4op 10 ай бұрын
Nothing about Jesus was a fairytale though. Your belief in a universe from nothing and men being women if they identify as such is a fairytale though...
@josueprado777
@josueprado777 10 ай бұрын
​@@Samuel-hw4op👏👏👏
@frankgrimes2679
@frankgrimes2679 Жыл бұрын
Will this be available to stream online?
@msangthrope5396
@msangthrope5396 Жыл бұрын
Hulu
@RachelKaplanMini
@RachelKaplanMini Жыл бұрын
I really hope the directors handled this one without ill intentions or narrative manipulations. Because if they actually handle this well, with humanity and nuance and respect, it will probably end up being an amazing documentary.
@John3.36
@John3.36 Жыл бұрын
NG is leftist, so of course it will be biased against Christianity.
@carsondenny1986
@carsondenny1986 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that that they did exactly this.
@chirisici
@chirisici Жыл бұрын
It is a thoughtful, intelligent, heartbreaking take on the event. I'd recommend it to anyone.
@carsondenny1986
@carsondenny1986 Жыл бұрын
@@chirisici yes. The comments on this trailer are so annoying. They consist mostly of the initial reaction of “he deserved it”, and are mostly from people who haven’t even seen the movie.
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee Жыл бұрын
⁠@@carsondenny1986 Honest question: do you expect the documentary would actually change our minds on that?
@MerchantIvoryfilms
@MerchantIvoryfilms Жыл бұрын
ALL Christians are guilty of doing the opposite of what Jesus did...he didn't chase people down to force a conversation of God upon them...he sat in the open and let people come listen to him. PERIOD!
@mattstevens7601
@mattstevens7601 Жыл бұрын
You have it backwards. Probably at least half of Christians sit and do nothing, while Jesus told his followers to "go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation". It's recorded in Mark 16v15 and Matthew 28v16
@MerchantIvoryfilms
@MerchantIvoryfilms Жыл бұрын
@@mattstevens7601 Nothing you said changed anything i said. Jesus DID NOT force conversation on anyone, and yes ALL OF YOU DO FORCE IT!
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee Жыл бұрын
⁠@@mattstevens7601 Creation meaning what? Examples of things that are created: buildings, paintings, computers, clocks, cars, etc. Not sure how preaching to any of them would accomplish anything. 😋
@Jax2903IsRetarded
@Jax2903IsRetarded 10 ай бұрын
​@@MerchantIvoryfilmsYes it does change what you said. You claim ALL Christians are the same. Clearly not true...
@Samuel-hw4op
@Samuel-hw4op 10 ай бұрын
​​@@MerchantIvoryfilmsWhy are you making assumptions when it's only atheists here forcing their views down people's throats? And ALL atheists do it.
@jackieden6734
@jackieden6734 Жыл бұрын
I wish the Native American Indians were more successful like this tribe was when the pilgrims came with their religious garbage….. oh what a different world this would be.
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
Instead we have atheist garbage now in America like yours...
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
You think your atheist garbage is better? That's laughable.
@JohnJohn-nc8xc
@JohnJohn-nc8xc 10 ай бұрын
Instead, we have atheist garbage now.
@JaxIsanIdiot
@JaxIsanIdiot 10 ай бұрын
Instead we have atheist garbage now...
@FranP25
@FranP25 3 ай бұрын
What natives are you talking about? Because the english and portuguese colonizers just killed natives and displaced them, the spanish were the only ones converting and assimilating natives
@icerice8661
@icerice8661 Жыл бұрын
He came to introduce them to Jesus, but instead they introduced him to God
@elvaldemort
@elvaldemort Жыл бұрын
I remember when this happen. This doco looks great, but it's just going to make all of us come back out again and laugh. No one but his friends and family feel sorry for him - that's the truth
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 Жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@pelonrruesga
@pelonrruesga Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@adamg.4656
@adamg.4656 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@edricleung5337
@edricleung5337 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jeffmays3159
@jeffmays3159 Жыл бұрын
He’s dead. Why would anyone feel bad for him? I feel bad for his family, but they are complicit too. No one needs saving.
@RogerMurillo-k4p
@RogerMurillo-k4p Жыл бұрын
Where can we watch this??
@leighannechiasson1343
@leighannechiasson1343 Жыл бұрын
Where can you watch this?
@SharonM16
@SharonM16 Жыл бұрын
How did he expect to be able to communicate with them? They would understand as much English as he would know of their language.
@jadedrac0
@jadedrac0 Жыл бұрын
How it’s always been historically done when missionaries reached people of a unknown language. Get accepted, live with them learn their ways culture and language which takes years…
@birdman6427
@birdman6427 Жыл бұрын
​@@jadedrac0 so that was the plan hope to get accepted live a few years with them many things could still have gone wrong.
@jadedrac0
@jadedrac0 Жыл бұрын
@@birdman6427 that’s the risk they accept that things could go wrong.
@centaur70
@centaur70 Жыл бұрын
The trailer says in theaters this October yet I can't locate it anywhere, theaters or streaming.. Strange.
@msangthrope5396
@msangthrope5396 Жыл бұрын
It'd streaming on Hulu now
@joaopaulo-tz5rv
@joaopaulo-tz5rv Жыл бұрын
I love the north sentelise
@coffeebean8790
@coffeebean8790 Жыл бұрын
“And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.” Jesus, Mark 6:11. As a Christian, I have to say that yes, Jesus did tell us that we are to take the Gospel to all the nations. But he also warned us that not everyone will be responsive to what we have to say. If that's the case, we have to accept that we did what we could do and move on.
@vesperrose333
@vesperrose333 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@MeAuntieNora
@MeAuntieNora Жыл бұрын
Just saw it. Really great doc. Left with a lot to chew on.
@jflinn7401
@jflinn7401 Жыл бұрын
In theaters?
@MeAuntieNora
@MeAuntieNora Жыл бұрын
@@jflinn7401 Yep, Jacob Burns. It might be in a limited release or something, I don't know for sure. Frankly I hadn't heard of it until yesterday and saw it on a whim.
@jflinn7401
@jflinn7401 Жыл бұрын
@@MeAuntieNora Jealous! Sounds like you made a good choice.
@rahmonafaridian9982
@rahmonafaridian9982 Жыл бұрын
I want to watch it as well. I can’t find it playing in theatres I’m in Vancouver Canada
@venusknowme1743
@venusknowme1743 Жыл бұрын
@@rahmonafaridian9982 It started streaming on Oct 8 on Hulu and Disney+
@geekvinos
@geekvinos Жыл бұрын
'Stop resisting and let me help you...'
@anomalocaris540
@anomalocaris540 Жыл бұрын
Stop resisting and let me erase your culture so you can pay taxes to my specific church denomination.
@briancurtis6022
@briancurtis6022 Жыл бұрын
A missionary is a hostile invader just like any other, waving a book instead of a gun. (And sometimes both.)
@DonnieChoi
@DonnieChoi Жыл бұрын
He got what he asked for. Died for being naive.
@chuckkaufman7600
@chuckkaufman7600 Жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between nativity, stupidity and arrogance
@ad206
@ad206 Жыл бұрын
A life lost over delusion.
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
Plenty more lost over the delusion of atheism...
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
Atheism is the delusion.
@JohnJohn-nc8xc
@JohnJohn-nc8xc 10 ай бұрын
Many more have been lost due to the delusions of atheism..
@ad206
@ad206 10 ай бұрын
@@JohnJohn-nc8xc To be honest, not really. No.
@Boricua-fy2ky
@Boricua-fy2ky Жыл бұрын
hat people think THEIR god is so important that anyone else who doesn't know about THEIR god is somehow "lost" is a wildly stupid way to think. This was a really idiotic move. No one has to believe in anyone else's ideas to be "found".
@simonhayes218
@simonhayes218 8 ай бұрын
Anyone know where I can get this film? Can't find it on any streaming platforms.
@vh3240
@vh3240 8 ай бұрын
I want to watch this for free. I wish this is in Tubi TV so that I can watch it for free.
@olivertan6208
@olivertan6208 Жыл бұрын
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose", Jim Elliot, the missionary who was speared by the Auca tribe but something amazing happened among this native people after his death.
@chiaraubertino8156
@chiaraubertino8156 Жыл бұрын
I want to learn more about this story. It's true, we are judging what happened in their interaction from speculation and surface events. We have no idea what the fruits of John's visit are, but it could be revealed at some point.
@mmmirele
@mmmirele Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Huaorani (that's their name, not "Auca", which is a pejorative meaning "savage" in Quechua) were colonized and their land exploited by a Texas oil company (Maxus) working with/using the sister (Rachel Saint) of one of the guys killed with Jim Elliot. The missionaries brought death and destruction with them. *shakes head*
@bankerdave888
@bankerdave888 Жыл бұрын
Arrogant is right!
@jarrettalyssaneville1122
@jarrettalyssaneville1122 4 ай бұрын
Where can I watch this documentary?
@dreena7870
@dreena7870 Жыл бұрын
Where can I watch? I can't find it anywhere
@mladen5
@mladen5 10 ай бұрын
If you’re in UK (or outside USA) you’ll need a USA VPN to find it on Disney+
@linda10989
@linda10989 5 ай бұрын
Where can i stream this??
@Kforever-c4w
@Kforever-c4w 4 ай бұрын
Where can i watch this
@sarahevans3622
@sarahevans3622 10 ай бұрын
There's a time and place to share your beliefs. Going naively into a dangerous situation was stupid.
@KnarfStein
@KnarfStein Жыл бұрын
The moral of the story is don't be a fundamentalist fascist.
@patgreen9845
@patgreen9845 8 ай бұрын
When will this be available to watch in the UK?
@Backpfeifengesicht45
@Backpfeifengesicht45 7 ай бұрын
It's Nat Geo, so it's probably on Disney+
@lucasbrock7210
@lucasbrock7210 Жыл бұрын
Is there anyway to watch this? I’d gladly rent on demand.
@msangthrope5396
@msangthrope5396 Жыл бұрын
Hulu
@jadedrac0
@jadedrac0 Жыл бұрын
Disney Plus
@harshchaturvedi9507
@harshchaturvedi9507 Жыл бұрын
I watched this documentary on Disney+Hotstar had to say that it is great documentary.Hats off to the team
@FishDoExist
@FishDoExist Жыл бұрын
Three cheers for the archer who hit his mark! The world is a quieter, saner place without the likes of John Allen Chau.
@v.k.mensah2093
@v.k.mensah2093 Жыл бұрын
This is a disgusting thing to say.
@fornax5798
@fornax5798 Жыл бұрын
@@v.k.mensah2093 I am convinced this commenter is a child
@JohnathanN-ot5nu
@JohnathanN-ot5nu 10 ай бұрын
It'll be saner yet without you.
@zacharyholmes3375
@zacharyholmes3375 Ай бұрын
@@v.k.mensah2093to be fair John almost killed the whole tribe through disease.
@chrisbelli445
@chrisbelli445 Жыл бұрын
If people desire jesus, they will seek him. It's not a right to be approached with it.
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 Жыл бұрын
The the whole Bible, then it will all make sense to you.
@Badluckgirl11
@Badluckgirl11 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! They don't need it forced on them
@nathangrantham2677
@nathangrantham2677 Жыл бұрын
​@@jimmcdougall9973Stay in your lane
@nathangrantham2677
@nathangrantham2677 Жыл бұрын
​@@jimmcdougall9973I've read that tripe. It's full hypocrisy
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 Жыл бұрын
@@nathangrantham2677 nope, it was your opinion before reading it. So what do you expect to come from that mindset.
@FunkyBruja
@FunkyBruja Жыл бұрын
He really should've left those people alone. They wanted no parts of that cult!
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
Atheism is the cult.
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
Atheism is the cult.
@Dondonn8xm
@Dondonn8xm 10 ай бұрын
Says the person in the biggest cult of them all. Keep your atheist nonsense to yourself too.
@JohnJohn-nc8xc
@JohnJohn-nc8xc 10 ай бұрын
Just as most people want no part of the delusions of atheism. So keep it to yourself as well.
@Dan-ys8nk
@Dan-ys8nk 7 ай бұрын
​@@JohnJohn-nc8xc Faith is the art of self-deception.
@theboxingboy7422
@theboxingboy7422 8 ай бұрын
I mean it was just arrogant and ridiculously stupid that he went back not once not twice but three times!! These people just want to be left alone and are well known for being incredibly hostile to non-natives who turn up to the island hence why it was made illegal to go there. A saviour complex cost him his life
@osefsadiqi82
@osefsadiqi82 3 ай бұрын
1:02 1:19
@stevej7425
@stevej7425 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if the poster would state where/when we can see this docu.
@lovefauxtoes
@lovefauxtoes Жыл бұрын
It hit Hulu today
@FlavesGarage
@FlavesGarage Жыл бұрын
where can I watch the whole video?
@msangthrope5396
@msangthrope5396 Жыл бұрын
Hulu
@rca6576
@rca6576 20 күн бұрын
I'd like to watch this full documentary. I am in Canada and the HULU off shoot here is CRAVE. It's not on there.
@vesperrose333
@vesperrose333 Жыл бұрын
Where can I watch or buy this?
@RSG555
@RSG555 Жыл бұрын
Hulu
@wacwildlife
@wacwildlife Жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking their mythology and culture are better
@allytrudie864
@allytrudie864 Жыл бұрын
The Sentelese culture is better. Those of us living in “civilized” society just stress about money, living and have zero time for those we love. Sentelese are living life in a far more meaningful and happy way. The way we should be.
@Tasunka_Nightwolf
@Tasunka_Nightwolf Жыл бұрын
People of all cultures define the world as they experience it, so their mythologies must account for what they see. So you cannot compare your story or experience to somebody else's.
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
Atheism is the ultimate mythology.
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
​@@allytrudie864Lol keep telling yourself that.
@leighannechiasson1343
@leighannechiasson1343 Жыл бұрын
How can you watch this? Where can I watch the full documentary
@jflinn7401
@jflinn7401 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it looks like it's only in select theaters right now. 😞
@stevej7425
@stevej7425 Жыл бұрын
Where can one see this??
@jamaalbrunson4926
@jamaalbrunson4926 3 ай бұрын
I feel so sorry for this family. This documentary was so sad and so righteous, all those ppl should have told him no…
@bbalsingletpolitics
@bbalsingletpolitics Жыл бұрын
Anyone know where I can watch this? I'm in New zealand and can't find it anywhere
@lovefauxtoes
@lovefauxtoes Жыл бұрын
It hit Hulu in the USA today
@wadestclair249
@wadestclair249 Жыл бұрын
christian missionary or mercenary?????
@queenofhades46
@queenofhades46 10 ай бұрын
"That there's a group that we would decide, 'Sorry, you don't get to hear about Jesus'. That's a violation of their human rights." I'm sorry, what? Since when is it a violation of human rights that some people don't get to hear your narrative? I guarantee you that those people do not care about your narrative or religion. They have their own way of life, most likely their own religion, and their own narrative. And they've made it extremely clear that they do not want to be disturbed by any outsiders. They probably don't even have the same idea of human rights that you, as an American, have. If you tried to explain all this to them, they would likely laugh in your face before killing you for violating the boundaries they have very clearly delineated. I don't understand religious people sometimes.
@Flowergurl2000
@Flowergurl2000 Жыл бұрын
Not everyone wants to meet Jesus.
@keryzsuzsanna
@keryzsuzsanna Жыл бұрын
But everyone will.
@ericzommer5581
@ericzommer5581 Жыл бұрын
@@keryzsuzsanna That's true unless you are agnostic, Buddhist, Islamic or follow Jainism, Shintoism, Sikhism, Taoism, Tenrikyo, Wicca, Zoroastrianism or the plethora of other religions that could give two squirts about Jesus. Your arrogance thinking Christianity is superior is what gets conflicts started. Not everyone thinks Jesus is worth panning after.
@Kxnd4ll
@Kxnd4ll Жыл бұрын
@@keryzsuzsannaEvery knee shall bow and every tongue will confess!
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee Жыл бұрын
@@keryzsuzsanna Your evidence?
@ClassicRockMan70
@ClassicRockMan70 Жыл бұрын
@@Kxnd4ll you lead more people away from God with how you present yourself. My relationship with God is mine, yours is yours, leave it at that and you will be happy.
@uni.uni.corp.
@uni.uni.corp. Жыл бұрын
No mythology can resist the reality of facts...
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
Atheism is the ultimate mythology.
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee 10 ай бұрын
@@thebjorn273. Atheism is just a lack of belief in any gods. Are you saying it’s a myth that I don’t believe in any gods?
@jorossi927
@jorossi927 Жыл бұрын
The audacity to think that these people are not Christians, is very unchristian like🤷🏻‍♀️ Leave these tribes alone!!!
@1982cme
@1982cme Жыл бұрын
Regardless of what you think of John, he is the dictionary definition of a martyr. For some, this is ridiculous. For some, it is inspirational. John did live his life for Jesus. Again, some will say this is ridiculous. and some inspirational.
@never_give_up90
@never_give_up90 11 ай бұрын
If stupidity and disrespect is something to admire, then go on but I will never look at those people the same. This arrogance and disrespect is baffling! Shoving religion down the throats of others needs to be stopped. Let people have free will and decide for themselves, not force it onto our children and those who are not interested. Kids believe in Santa and Fairies for a very good developmental reason. So telling them stories about magical beings who created everything is very equal to that. It's okay to let them read books and answer questions but when they get older and start questioning Santa and God, let them decide for themselves. Don't force your beliefs and opinions on them, because at this point their logic is starting to develop fast and they can decide for themselves.
@zacharyholmes3375
@zacharyholmes3375 Ай бұрын
If you think it’s inspirational then you’re stupid because John almost killed all the people on that island. Even the common flu would take them all out.
@icecreamcheesesticks
@icecreamcheesesticks Жыл бұрын
Ideology makes you irrational who would’ve thought
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
Atheists are the most irrational...
@soundsgoodtome
@soundsgoodtome Жыл бұрын
So, Jesus didn't protect him. Funny how that works.
@aezakmi3766
@aezakmi3766 Жыл бұрын
Actually the Bible did catch an arrow for him(aimed at his chest) on his 2nd try forcing him to retreat but he still went back 3rd time.
@fastnetcyber3979
@fastnetcyber3979 Жыл бұрын
What i have learned is dont bother people who dont want to be bothered
@carolandre4373
@carolandre4373 10 ай бұрын
He had no calling there. You prolly believed it was gonna be like Africa.
@vh3240
@vh3240 10 ай бұрын
I think that John Allen Chau should not have went to that island. But what if a person was in a plane crash like in the movie Castaway? I think it would be unfair if the North Sentinelese will throw arrows at the person.
@homer3189
@homer3189 Жыл бұрын
Most Christians believe that those who never heard of Jesus in life will get an opportunity to meet Jesus after death. Did this guy not know this?
@Reese_Cup
@Reese_Cup Жыл бұрын
Very self righteous. Does one truly believe in a higher power when they can't SEE these people exist without that book and have been provided for and live like we should all live.
@Samuel-hw4op
@Samuel-hw4op 10 ай бұрын
Yet you believe the universe came from nothingness even though that has no evidence.
@Reese_Cup
@Reese_Cup 10 ай бұрын
@@Samuel-hw4op Did I say what I believe in?
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee 10 ай бұрын
It’s less about not seeing and more about not having any demonstrable evidence of it. Christians need to provide actual evidence instead of just quoting a nonsensical book.
@thisbodyisonpoint
@thisbodyisonpoint 10 ай бұрын
Christians should just accept that not everyone wants to practice this religion. There are more than enough followers. Focus on making them better christians and leave indigenous religions alone. Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean they have no God. Every tribe has a God they believe in.
@historychannel365
@historychannel365 Жыл бұрын
THIS is really educational. adored it
@RogerMurillo-k4p
@RogerMurillo-k4p Жыл бұрын
Where did you watch the documantary?
@ftjnusrat
@ftjnusrat 11 ай бұрын
Just leave them alone. they are literally living "our dream life". and they don't want to get introduce to all this nonsense of this world. if they wanted then they would have tried to contact with us. i don't think they want anything to do with us, all they want is space and peace. let's just give them that, leave them alone and let them be happy
@thebjorn273.
@thebjorn273. 10 ай бұрын
I wish atheists would take their own advice and stop spreading their nonsense too.
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee 10 ай бұрын
@@thebjorn273. What “nonsense” are we spreading? The only thing that makes a person an atheist is that they don’t believe in any gods.
@kaseycameron1408
@kaseycameron1408 Жыл бұрын
That’s wat they get. No need to shove religion into others
@mbryngelson
@mbryngelson 11 ай бұрын
My favorite is the cartoon depiction of the forged steel arrowhead. 😂😂😂
@dominicpetruzzi5872
@dominicpetruzzi5872 Жыл бұрын
Kinda similar situation happened to Michael Rockefeller son of Nelson Rockefeller
@mariorosario9081
@mariorosario9081 11 ай бұрын
Missionary: "Wanna know Jesus?" Tribe: "Wanna see Jesus?"
@ItsmeAnatasia15
@ItsmeAnatasia15 7 ай бұрын
It hurts me to see the world mock John's faithfulness time and time again, but I remember that Jesus honors him fully for his obedience forever. Praise God.
@JL-hs3uy
@JL-hs3uy 7 ай бұрын
If... and that is a huge IF, for when Christ was rejected He didn't go back... countless examples in scripture and even on this child's mission. He felt the Holy Spirit warn him of death AND then after an arrow struck the Bible. Clandestine, however his prideful zeal ended Him. The same as a drug addict that ODs. Perhaps, God sent him however, the evidence shows God warned him!!! The question is, Would God ask you to jump out of a plane without a parachute?. May the grace and peace of Christ our Lord cover you like honey fam.
@KeyforChange
@KeyforChange 7 ай бұрын
I can't watch this in the UK.
@heliomonteiro4200
@heliomonteiro4200 Жыл бұрын
He forgot the the Sentinels had a "stand your ground law".
@cafemolido5459
@cafemolido5459 Жыл бұрын
Gave his life to spread a fairy tale. Hope he told them about Santa Claus too. ...and the Easter bunny
@michaelantonio2702
@michaelantonio2702 Жыл бұрын
He made his choices. It was a bad one
@TheLegmann
@TheLegmann Жыл бұрын
Some Christians really have no respect for the beliefs of others. Somehow, they know that their religion is the correct one and all others are wrong. The level of ego is insane.
@Samuel-hw4op
@Samuel-hw4op 10 ай бұрын
Atheists are like that too.
@LucareonVee
@LucareonVee 10 ай бұрын
@@Samuel-hw4op No we’re not. For starters, we have no religion. 😘
@TheLegmann
@TheLegmann 10 ай бұрын
@Samuel-hw4op not anywhere near to this. Atheists don't care about other people's religions. They just don't want to be force-fed others' beliefs, and unfortunately, you guys just can't help yourselves.
@letthereberock1
@letthereberock1 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't sky daddy protect John, his faithful servant?
@JaxIsanIdiot
@JaxIsanIdiot 10 ай бұрын
Sky daddy is only something you atheists believed in, just as you believe in a universe magically from nothing. No theist believes in those concepts.
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