The MOMENT Kirby Reed knew Jill Roberts was Ghostface | Scream Theory

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Beyond The Mask

Beyond The Mask

Күн бұрын

Hello everyone and welcome to today's episode of Beyond The Mask. Today, we're going to be taking a closer look at Scream 4 and certain events that may have occured during the third act of the movie. More specifically, I'm going to be novelizing & breaking down...what happened following Charlie Walker's brutal attack on Kirby Reed and how she discovered her best friend, Jill Roberts, was involved as well.
As most of you know, for the past month I have been novelization various aspects of the Scream franchise to provide some much needed lore and backstory to the events. As such, the writings in this video are of my own making as a way to flesh out the events surrounding Kirby's final scenes in the 4th installment of Scream.
So was Kirby lifeless following her attack? Did she attempt to escape? Did she discover Jill was responsible for the Ghostface attacks? Sit back and chill as I talk you guys through... How Kirby Reed managed to survive Scream 4.
0:00 Introduction
01:24 Why Kirby Reed is Important...
02:04 Kirby's final scene in Scream 4
02:37 What happened Afterwards...
05:11 Kirby Discovers Charlie's accomplice...
09:31 How Kirby Survived Scream 4
11:01 Conclusion
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@patrickdempsy14
@patrickdempsy14 Жыл бұрын
Watched the whole thing. As someone who is a victim of a stabbing, let me just say that how beyond the mask details it here is scarily accurate.
@damianespana9753
@damianespana9753 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to ask but how did you get stabbed
@benchristoit1299
@benchristoit1299 Жыл бұрын
Getting poked in the butt doesn't count
@tedratchet8981
@tedratchet8981 Жыл бұрын
@@damianespana9753 I don’t know this guy but I bet it was with a knife.
@user-ld1nl4vv7t
@user-ld1nl4vv7t Жыл бұрын
@@damianespana9753 So basically when something is sharp enough like a knife it can penetrate somebody’s skin hence being stabbed. Hope I cleared somethings up for you.
@ayascamdzic3827
@ayascamdzic3827 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ld1nl4vv7t lol u didn't really
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 Жыл бұрын
And Kirby most likely heard Jill entire motive of wanting to become famous but couldn't help Sidney due to fatally being injured I hope in 6 she talk about her near death experience and what she thought of Jill and Charlie being Ghostface.
@spotthedott
@spotthedott Жыл бұрын
I kinda feel Kirby may be one of the killers
@bardigang9638
@bardigang9638 Жыл бұрын
@@spotthedott HELLL NO, I would cry if she was the killer 😭😭😭
@chadmeeks-martin6084
@chadmeeks-martin6084 Жыл бұрын
@@spotthedott honestly same
@Jays6926
@Jays6926 Жыл бұрын
@@spotthedott i used to hate fan theories like this… But, I’m starting to like them. We’ve never seen a survivor become a killer because of experience. That could be interesting
@dariuschisholm7317
@dariuschisholm7317 Жыл бұрын
@@spotthedott wouldn't be a shock
@vons_
@vons_ Жыл бұрын
I don’t think charlie actually wanted to go through with stabbing her after he realized she liked him.. I believe Jill got in his head like “NOW she noticed you? Really?” to manipulate him into killing her
@vons_
@vons_ Жыл бұрын
omg imagine an alternate ending where all this goes down, she surveys and she secretly records Jill hurting herself for the setup but instead of that entire showdown in the actual film Jill never finds out about Sydney surviving going along with the narrative that Jill is the victim/survivor but then as she’s basking in her five minutes out comes Kirby with proof for her arrest so then we’d have a killer alive for once ha
@MattCrider616
@MattCrider616 Жыл бұрын
See I wondered if Charlie didn't really stab her as deep as he made it look. He could have told kirby to play dead and perhaps even drugged the knife with a sedative so she wouldn't get involved. Then Kirby goes to her family's safe room and watches everything play out but passes out before she can help.
@justvibin7883
@justvibin7883 Жыл бұрын
The look on his face looked like he didn’t fully want to do it
@michealbanksjr.3630
@michealbanksjr.3630 Жыл бұрын
He only stabbed her because of how she finally noticed him, but at the end of the day that’s attempted murder and other charges he would’ve gotten if he had survived.
@ayascamdzic3827
@ayascamdzic3827 Жыл бұрын
@@justvibin7883 yeah,before he throws her to the ground his face expression looked like he felt sorry
@clandman
@clandman Жыл бұрын
I loved this idea. I do remember right before Sidney gets jumped by Charlie, she’s about to go back downstairs to Kirby and she hears the door open, call for Kirby, and it sounds like someone crawling. It had to have been Kirby since both Charlie and Jill are already upstairs.
@CB0915
@CB0915 Жыл бұрын
I still cant believe Kirby is back in 6! So sick! I remember just shy of 12 years ago now being so invested in the “is she alive or dead” content that was floating around back in 2011!
@HorrorParadise
@HorrorParadise Жыл бұрын
I kinda wanna see them open with 2011 and the remake massacre. Pull a Halloween Kills right down to the cinematography and anything else that may need to be done to give it that feel it’s the events of 2011. Hell, show us Kirby surviving then getting medical treatment for fun then we get the current day opening “kill” leading into her getting a call about murders or maybe she’s the one attacked but survives. Hell, have Dermot Mulroney’s character reminisce over his child’s attack even.
@XxDarkWolfxX888
@XxDarkWolfxX888 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly this !! Imagine we even got to see Dewey helping Kirby😪
@GregMuniz7
@GregMuniz7 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling we might get a Kirby opening
@slashersandfoundfootage6726
@slashersandfoundfootage6726 Жыл бұрын
@@XxDarkWolfxX888 Arquette teased Dewey returning. So maybe in flashbacks when Gale shows up on screen, god forbid dies or maybe in a Kirby flashback since he was sheriff at the time.
@adamsbriee6330
@adamsbriee6330 Жыл бұрын
They’ve never had a flashback in scream. It would either be really cool and new or be off
@LuhChance504
@LuhChance504 Жыл бұрын
@@adamsbriee6330 even tho they never had flashbacks they flirted with it in scream 5 with Sam psychological thoughts of billy
@regeneratedwitch
@regeneratedwitch Жыл бұрын
I hope we get a cool flashback sequence. Like...Final Destination 5 where we see a portion of the scene combined with the new actors. We could see Hayden dressed as Kirby in 2011 and some portion of that conversation or something close to that. I need a flashback to tie things together. Kirby's not just a survivor, we've been screaming (pun not intended) for 12 years to see her back so please do us justice and make her come back worth it.
@rafaelsteffen9368
@rafaelsteffen9368 Жыл бұрын
And let's hope they don't kill her off... they already regret killing randy, so let's see if they'll make the same mistake again
@tayloranderson7547
@tayloranderson7547 10 ай бұрын
For real life it is for real life
@ghostfacestreet6523
@ghostfacestreet6523 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know about anyone else, but this was that great it felt more like a deleted scene than his own work. Amazing
@j2174
@j2174 Жыл бұрын
I hope they have some flashbacks to Scream 4 in the new Scream 6, showing how Kirby survived and that she saw Jill and Sidney.
@ImFeelinALittleWoozyHere
@ImFeelinALittleWoozyHere Жыл бұрын
Do a camera blur and distorted voices or AI generated voices of them since she’s feeling a little woozy here so you can have Emma and Neve lookalikes be in the flashback, that would be acceptable in the case of her stabbed and bleeding out.
@j2174
@j2174 Жыл бұрын
@@ImFeelinALittleWoozyHere Yeah I am sure they can do many things to make us feel as though Jill and Sidney are there. I am sure Emma Roberts would come back if asked. And they can just cut footage together.
@Austinmoore2005
@Austinmoore2005 Жыл бұрын
My only issue is unless she was in the basement and it took them a while to find her, there’s no explanation to the media reporters saying Jill was the sole survivor. Even with Sidney in there it didn’t make sense but with Kirby surviving or being treated for her wounds they would have announced it. Also had she not been found later, Jill would have known she survived before going to the hospital. So I think she locked herself in the room in the basement, Jill was rushed to the hospital, they found Kirby and began some onsite treatment and she alerted the police of only Charlie since she didn’t know about Jill yet but she hadn’t been admitted or taken in before Jill was found out. I think she found out about Jill after the Sidney finished her in the hospital
@j2174
@j2174 Жыл бұрын
@@Austinmoore2005 Kirby would know there is a second Ghostface though, since Charlie was “attacked”. Maybe Kirby was in ICU during the hospital scene.
@Austinmoore2005
@Austinmoore2005 Жыл бұрын
@@j2174 I mean I know she would have known there was a second one but I don’t think she would have figured out who it was until after. I think she would have found out from Sidney or the media afterwards. And if she was in the ICU why would Dewey have only told her that it’s touch and go with Sidney but she just might make it but not Kirby who was Jills best friend? At the time they didn’t know it was Jill meaning Dewey would have also had to not know Kirby was alive when all of this was going down.
@davidwalker3198
@davidwalker3198 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else find his writing really engaging? His character work literally takes you through so many emotions with them in one small chapter. Just release the damn novels already.
@ghostfacestreet6523
@ghostfacestreet6523 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I never doubt the characters thoughts either, he truly gets them.
@scottchaison1001
@scottchaison1001 Жыл бұрын
No.
@Septymus
@Septymus Жыл бұрын
I’m an amateur writer, but this guy is a genius.
@korepersephone3471
@korepersephone3471 Жыл бұрын
😊p
@tayloranderson7547
@tayloranderson7547 10 ай бұрын
For real life agree with that
@ImFeelinALittleWoozyHere
@ImFeelinALittleWoozyHere Жыл бұрын
For a franchise that’s been around as long as this I’m surprised they haven’t pulled a flashback scene that’s in connection to a previous film adding to lore yet.
@1428elm
@1428elm Жыл бұрын
I mean the lineage of certain characters in 5 don't make a too much sense either
@mohamadafifazizizaidi5625
@mohamadafifazizizaidi5625 Жыл бұрын
You're right. We _never_ had or saw any *flashback* in every Scream film. They could make something different this time, at least by showing a flashback about some important details.
@salvatorestabile5547
@salvatorestabile5547 Жыл бұрын
The closest would be is in Scream 3 when Sid remembers her conversation with Billy on the set of the Stab movie
@jadegunner9234
@jadegunner9234 Жыл бұрын
This is my favourite one yet that you have done, I feel you understood Kirby as a character extremely well
@angelvasquez1592
@angelvasquez1592 Жыл бұрын
I think jill was overwhelmed when Kirby started saying all the horror movie remakes
@GhostfaceGil
@GhostfaceGil Жыл бұрын
Love these lore expansions dude! I'm currently writing an in-universe spinoff about an orignal Ghostface character and these are inspirational, it's good to know movies like this can be adapted into words :D
@BeyondTheMask
@BeyondTheMask Жыл бұрын
Keep me updated on your progress. Sounds really exciting!! 😁
@shaunbirrell7273
@shaunbirrell7273 Жыл бұрын
Remember when Sidney is at the top of the stairs and she hears the door opening from the room Kirby was in? Could of been Kirby
@MattCrider616
@MattCrider616 Жыл бұрын
And really it wouldn't be too far fetched if Kirby's family had a safe room and that's where she went until she decided who she could trust
@shaunbirrell7273
@shaunbirrell7273 Жыл бұрын
@@MattCrider616 yeah exactly. The Size of her house I would believe that she had a safe room
@mattkirby5151
@mattkirby5151 Жыл бұрын
Really clever writing man,you can tell you have a real love for the Scream franchise and a love for writing. Well done.
@jeremyjealousy
@jeremyjealousy Жыл бұрын
“Whatever she was doing… she’d won.” I LOVE THAT! 💀👻🖤
@Malgus-2023
@Malgus-2023 Жыл бұрын
Dude, that was so awesome! This scene should be included when they show how Kirby survived. 👏 👏 👏
@sandragoth8293
@sandragoth8293 Жыл бұрын
Beyond the mask would make a better writer for scream than radio silence. Fight me on this
@DAYUMDANIELL
@DAYUMDANIELL Жыл бұрын
@Joshua 1992 Jill 100%
@Lilt348
@Lilt348 Жыл бұрын
@Joshua 1992 Depends, Amber's stronger but Jill's smarter.
@williamsummerson1204
@williamsummerson1204 Жыл бұрын
Yes he would.
@TroyM777
@TroyM777 Жыл бұрын
Excellent writing! It’s edged in my head as a version of an official version for me! If they actually do have a scene where she does discuss it, it’ll still end up being a alternate version for me. Absolutely love it!
@adamafam4412
@adamafam4412 Жыл бұрын
EDGED 🥵
@Lilt348
@Lilt348 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS SO GOOD! NEW HEADCANON
@laronbradley2856
@laronbradley2856 Жыл бұрын
Your scream novelizations have been amazing!! Thank you for sharing your gifts with us! Looking forward to the next video!
@MaryTheresa1986
@MaryTheresa1986 Жыл бұрын
That was so well written! Great job! I can't to hear more of your work.
@shervongaskins1148
@shervongaskins1148 Жыл бұрын
This was amazing! Fit the storyline perfectly 😈🔪
@murphybeats8695
@murphybeats8695 Жыл бұрын
Your writing is so good! As a huge scream fan you are undoubtedly one of my favorite KZbin channels! Keep up the amazing work!!
@SembraviFrankSinatraierisera
@SembraviFrankSinatraierisera Жыл бұрын
Homies, full scream 6 trailer date: 19/1
@caiocostx
@caiocostx Жыл бұрын
this is SO GOOD! i don’t think they’ll do a flashback scene with kirby but this is definitely one that i would LIVE FOR!!!!
@staylurking4461
@staylurking4461 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Charlie even had ill intentions of killing Kirby like he just stab her twice enough to let her know the pain she put him through of wanting to be her boyfriend even though she had no idea if he told Jill that Kirby was still alive she go back and kill Kirby herself.
@jenniferbayarea5748
@jenniferbayarea5748 Жыл бұрын
Basically he did what a lot of people are doing today. Getting rejected or broken up they turn to harm them
@ghonnh20
@ghonnh20 Жыл бұрын
So even if Jill's plan worked, it would be ruines by Kirby
@perezdavidangel
@perezdavidangel Жыл бұрын
Lol you stab someone not once but twice with a hunting knife....yeah he wanted her dead. Come on now.
@ayascamdzic3827
@ayascamdzic3827 Жыл бұрын
@@ghonnh20 not really,Kevin wanted kirby dead in the original scream 5 which mean she would have died in 4,and Wes wanted her back in 5 without knowing that Jill was the killer,like she was unconscious the whole time in the backyard while act 3 was happening
@silenceone31
@silenceone31 Жыл бұрын
Technically speaking then Charlie wouldn't have tried to kill Kirby if he was her boyfriend basically and the fact his motive is very woke well all 9 of Ghostface motives are woke though half of them like this one is ridiculous.
@callumhignett-owen8322
@callumhignett-owen8322 Жыл бұрын
Can you do Liv's whereabouts in the gaps after she leaves Chad up to where she confronts Mindy, then where she runs into the house after having found Chad next?
@Caliboo29
@Caliboo29 Жыл бұрын
Um she said her Uber cancelled on her r u deaf
@swampcrotch8240
@swampcrotch8240 Жыл бұрын
Kirby showed zero affiliation towards serial killers, in fact, the exact opposite! She showed an affiliation for the heroes of horror movies, the final girls and those who show the strength to SURVIVE. She even spells it out in S4 with Sidney, the ultimate survivor! “She’s the reason I love horror movies”. So no, I don’t think Kirby would feel a draw to Charlie beyond a love for horror movies. If anything it would make more sense that she feel disconnected to Jill because she has the opposite energy of the thing she loves - the hero, the final girl.
@Septymus
@Septymus Жыл бұрын
Well done, great idea! We definitely need some flashbacks and scenes in Scream VI including the night when Kirby somehow survived. I hope they do it well.
@heliopolitan444
@heliopolitan444 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this. I know it's not canonical but I'm gonna imagine Kirby in the back hall when watching that Jill monologue scene from now on lol. I really hope we get some flashbacks from Kirby...yet again scream doesn't do flashbacks but that would be a cool way to introduce Kirby and show us what happened after she was stabbed
@krystalferguson8470
@krystalferguson8470 Жыл бұрын
The best thing I have read in years! You are insanely talented with writing!
@ethandoyle4978
@ethandoyle4978 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god , this it s is amazing , I hope this explains how she survived in the. Ext film . And that they release novelization s of all the films.
@williamsummerson1204
@williamsummerson1204 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal job, my dude. Best scream channel on KZbin hands down.
@shannoningle1642
@shannoningle1642 Жыл бұрын
I love these backstories keep them coming
@neen3348
@neen3348 Жыл бұрын
Love this and the one on Maureen Prescott.....keep 'em coming! 👏
@ghonnh20
@ghonnh20 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS AMAZING!
@leepchannel1337
@leepchannel1337 Жыл бұрын
It’s so sweet and sad how Kirby kept thinking of Olivia💔
@OnyxeBlade
@OnyxeBlade Жыл бұрын
This was such an incredible and detailed video. While we don't know what the story behind Kirby's survival is. I sincerely hope it closely resemble of the impeccable story you created
@sidneyvallesillo5964
@sidneyvallesillo5964 Жыл бұрын
Loved this!
@MattCrider616
@MattCrider616 Жыл бұрын
Kirby flashed back to the night Charlie stabbed her. He commented about how it wasn't like in the movies but then he whispered something else. "Pretend like you are dying," he whispered. He did stab her but nowhere near as deeply as it looked. Kirby realized thar Charlie was sparing her but he wasn't alone. Someone else wanted her dead. She went back toward house through the garage but instead of going there she pressed a sequence on the alarm system. Kirby's parents had installed a safe room years ago. She never thought she would have needed it and she never really took it seriously. She watched as the secret door creaked open and snuck in. The room was large with cameras set up throughout the whole house. She wanted to help but she didn't know who Charlie's partner was and she didn't want to be fooled again. She gasped as she saw Jill kill Charlie. She couldn't help but feel a bit sad for him, he did spare her. But it was obvious that now that Jill had brought out his dark side. He killed Olivia and it was extremely brutal. Charlie got what he deserved but Jill was three steps ahead of everyone. She watched as Jill stabbed Sydney and then she beat herself up pretty violently. She needed to call the police but the land line was cut and there wasn't a separate line in the safe room. Her phone was dead as well. She didn't know what to do, but the world went black. She had been going on adrenaline but now that she was somewhat safe she wondered if Charlie had drugged her to keep her from Interfering. She passed out and by the time she woke up, her house was empty except for the police. She called over the intercom and explained where she was and how to find her. She was sent to the hospital to clean her wound and she would ask for a tox screen as well. But when she got there she was furious when every single news outlet was there, saying Jill was a hero. There was no way she was going to let that happen. "Jill Robert's is not a hero! She screamed as the cameras all moved in her direction. I saw what Happened and Jill was the mastermind behind all of thus. Dewey came out right then, and was shocked to see a very much alive Kirby! "Sydney overheard Charlie tell Jill you were dead!" "I think he still had feelings for me, at least a little. He did stab me but he whispered for me to play dead. Then I hid in my safe room! Judy Hicks was next outsode.. sound to me like Kirby is your hero here. NO Kirby insisted. I don't want that kind of attention. I am just lucky to be alive. I hid through the worst of it." And that's how I would do it so it's a little more realistic
@a1sawse939
@a1sawse939 Жыл бұрын
I love this 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@cripheponine
@cripheponine Жыл бұрын
Or... she was in a coma for days or weeks and only found out about Jill when she woke up
@ZoCrawford
@ZoCrawford Жыл бұрын
I always love these videos brotha 💜
@lynseycobden203
@lynseycobden203 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the aftermath novelisation. Please post soon 😊
@Rowlayz
@Rowlayz Жыл бұрын
you made scream4's ending even better
@LLL417
@LLL417 Жыл бұрын
I know y’all love Kirby, but her being alive is a retcon. In Scream 4 reporters and even Dewey himself confirmed that Jill and Sidney were the only survivors of the incident at Kirby’s house. I really hope they come up with a convincing way she survived because to keep it a secret makes no sense.
@ChromaloxTTV
@ChromaloxTTV Жыл бұрын
Rewatching 4 Dewey mentioned to Jill in the hospital “she’s still alive and fighting”. Maybe he was talking about Kirby and not Sydney seeing as Sydney had gotten out of her surgeries
@divinepixilation9172
@divinepixilation9172 Жыл бұрын
It’s most likely that she hadn’t been found at the same time as Jill and Sydney. Since Kirby was outside in the backyard, and every other body was right in the kitchen.
@ChromaloxTTV
@ChromaloxTTV Жыл бұрын
@@divinepixilation9172 yeah and we never saw Kirby spitting out blood like a lot of other victims stabbed. Usually that’s a sign of internal damage and rarely anyone lives from that.
@jigsaw44
@jigsaw44 Жыл бұрын
Still say we might see Kirby either hearing and or seeing Jill's monologue, and showing how she managed to get away and disappear. And no one else knew she was still alive years later lolz
@jakecmoore
@jakecmoore Жыл бұрын
Great video, friend!
@MASTERTMUSIC
@MASTERTMUSIC Жыл бұрын
KIRBY is the NUMBER 1 CHARACTER who I can't wait to SEE in S6REAM!!!
@KNK2116
@KNK2116 Жыл бұрын
I like this idea! Very creative. I honestly feel like Kirby likely crawled back into the room she came out from to help Charlie. It’s likely she knew something was in there she could use to add pressure to her wound, slow the bleeding & she could hide. Kirby also still had her phone. When she ended the call with Ghostface (Jill) & went outside, she put the phone in her back pocket before untying Charlie. He walked off without grabbing it off her. I think she probably called the police from the downstairs room/basement. I really hope 6 goes into detail so we know exactly what happened. Hopefully they will & it won’t be stupid also lol
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 Жыл бұрын
There was going to be a scene in Scream 4 where police and paramedics find Kirby and say "We've got a heartbeat" showing she was alive but I don't think they filmed it.
@ayascamdzic3827
@ayascamdzic3827 Жыл бұрын
I think she was only at the stairs listening till she feel unconscious or she was unconscious the whole time in the backyard.And Imo Jill didn't had a rough childhood or a disturbing one,because there isn't one lol.She was neglected by her mom,abandoned by her dad and living in a shadow of sidney.Yes it looks bad but not bad enough for her to be completely evil like she revealed how much she was(Tbh with every spoken word by Jill Sidney was more and more shocked,at least it looked like it to me.And tbh I was too shocked,we saw in every killer at least some humanity, but in Jill it was just jealousy,envy, greed,evil...all the bad traits a person can have,nothing good ).She's my fav and imo best ghostface,but lets face it,she was evil even if she had the perfect life.But I do like it that you are trying to humanize her in some ways,even if she is a psychopath 85%
@jamescawthorne7557
@jamescawthorne7557 Жыл бұрын
Off topic, but if they kill her off in the beginning of S6 then I will RIOT
@heatheraucoin5832
@heatheraucoin5832 Жыл бұрын
I remembered in an interview that, Sir Wes Craven (I know he wasn’t knighted but he should have been) said he liked the character Kirby and wished she wasn’t killed off. I’m glad she’ll return for Scream 6.
@xeatdefeat179
@xeatdefeat179 Жыл бұрын
Loved this.
@myersfan5043
@myersfan5043 Жыл бұрын
I challenge radio silence to make kirbys survival better than this 😂
@tjfrizzi5965
@tjfrizzi5965 Жыл бұрын
We'll find out in a few months when the movie comes out! lol ;-)
@brash_and_sassy
@brash_and_sassy Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t Kirby have know right away there was another killer? Who did she think she was on the phone with while Charlie was in the chair? She wouldn’t have thought about that before thinking about Olivia and Jill’s childhood?
@psykoShr00m
@psykoShr00m Жыл бұрын
You mentioned that Kirby beat ghostface in the horror movie game, and that she was the first character to ever do so. But my memory serves correct all she did was name off every horror movie she could think of like a George Carlin rant... I don't know if that counts as winning if you answer the question 487 times
@ChromaloxTTV
@ChromaloxTTV Жыл бұрын
Haha such an iconic scene though
@mickcrump7799
@mickcrump7799 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your content and channel! I’ve been in love with Scream since 1996 and I also enjoyed the underrated Scream Tv show, but only the first two seasons. I’m still sad we never got any closure on that story. It would be cool to have Emma, Brooke, Audrey, and Noah brought into a scream film for a cameo. I thoroughly enjoyed your expansion of the movies bc I do feel that there is one issue with the films that always lets me down with each new release. I know these are slasher films and Sidney is the main character of the franchise and now the Carpenter sisters are transitioning into that role, but these stories are VERY self-referential and nods are always given to other horror films or past movies. The area that the franchise has never fully taken advantage of is Gale’s legacy of death, loss, and destruction because she chose to capitalize on the murder of Maureen Prescott, but also the killing spree of Billy Loomis and Stu Macher. Gale admitted to embellishing the events that she barely survived herself, and sensationalized the gruesome deaths of Steven Orith, Casey Becker, Principal Himbry, her own cameraman Kenny, and Tatum Riley. In Scream 2, we see the complete spectacle the studio has made to promote a film that REALLY IS BASED ON TRUE EVENTS! Gale sensationalized the deaths of all of these people, and made the killers household names by selling the rights to her book, the Woodsboro Murders to Sunrise Studios, which birthed a lucrative film franchise on the tragic deaths of countless innocent people, including minors. Fans of the Stab films only know Casey Becker as the “character” and not the person who was brutally murdered while on the phone with her parents. The fans also think of Heather Graham when they hear the name Casey Becker, which is similar for the other dead people that were replaced by actors in the film about the loss of their lives. The aftermath of these movies has led to decades of senseless murder, but the issue is never really explored in the Scream movies themselves. No one EVER mentions poor Steven Orith, who was the real first person to be murdered by his girlfriend’s psychotic ex boyfriend. Sidney and Dewey have NEVER ONCE spoken about Tatum, who was Sidney’s loyal friend that was gruesomely killed by Sidney’s boyfriend moments before Sidney slept with him. Dewey lost and failed to protect his little sister! Why is this a conversation that we never saw once during screams 2-5? With Dewey’s death, the Riley’s connection to Sidney has cost that family the legacy and continuation of their family line. This is never spoken about, just as the murders of Sheriff Judy Hicks and her teenage son, Wes, was simply glossed over instead of recognizing that the entire Hicks family is now dead, especially when these characters grew up together! The character most wasted in the franchise to provide insight into the origins of all of the death and mayhem, Maureen Prescott herself, her rape, her promiscuous behavior, and rejection of her own son, was Kate Roberts. Kate was Maureen’s sister and could have known so much about her sister that Sidney or her father never knew. But Kate and Sidney NEVER share a single meaningful conversation about their family and her mother in Scream 4. That’s why I was so glad to hear your expansion and listen to Kirby reflect on the brutal murder of their childhood friend Olivia. Olivia has one of the most brutal murders in the entire franchise, but NONE of her friends seem very bereaved by her loss or having watched Olivia fight for her life until she’s being flung lifelessly out of her window. We’ve seen Sidney think about Billy and Derek, but that’s about it! Sidney’s poor choices cost Hallie and Derek their lives. In scream 6, Kirby never mentions how it felt to know your best friend plotted to kill you like you were nothing more than a housefly. Chad or Mindy had no regrets for how terribly they were to Liv before she was shot in the head. Between the Stab franchise and Gale’s legacy of turning tragedy into movies and money, as well as turning tragic murder victims into “characters” in horror films, Scream has a unique angle that should resolve when the story finally comes to an end. The Scream franchise needs to end with the story and narrative being given back to the many victims who have been silenced by Ghostface killer over the past two decades and had their lives, names, and stories stolen from them by their killer and the Stab franchise. The stab movies should stop and Gale should do what she said she would do in Scream 5, which is write about the victims and who they really were, and what they could have become if not for a set of horror films that made the killer’s household names, when they should forever remain in obscurity. And the mask and costume should be discontinued and no longer available to be purchased every Halloween by fans that have no idea how much they are mocking the memory of every single person that had their lives cut short by some psycho or fanboy that wanted to be famous, or simply take a life “just cause”. Scream as a franchise has to face its sinister counterpart and self-created monster that is the Stab Franchise, for the story to finally be over and for those who survive, to finally find their happily ever after.
@psykoShr00m
@psykoShr00m Жыл бұрын
The only thing I don't like about Kirby surviving is that it made the events at the end of scream 4 at the hospital totally irrelevant. Eventually, whether Jill knew it or not, Kirby was going to wake up Just like Sydney and tell the cops what she knew. So yeah that's a little weird
@cindyanallywisconsin102
@cindyanallywisconsin102 Жыл бұрын
Well its not like she knew that jill was ghostface
@psykoShr00m
@psykoShr00m Жыл бұрын
@@cindyanallywisconsin102 you're right, however, it is possible that after she survived she made her way towards the kitchen and saw jill smashing herself into glass tables and shit. it's a stretch, but it IS possible
@cindyanallywisconsin102
@cindyanallywisconsin102 Жыл бұрын
@@psykoShr00m yes
@tjfrizzi5965
@tjfrizzi5965 Жыл бұрын
Like a lot of your takes on the Scream movies. If you haven't written your own original script or story (Not Scream Related) you should definitely do that!
@poltblissofficial8336
@poltblissofficial8336 Жыл бұрын
Would it be crazy if Kirby becomes Ghostface? That would take me for a turn. Something like her being truly in love with Charlie. And her blaming the Stab movies for Charlie's death.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 Жыл бұрын
9:34 You novelising certain parts is interesting. The idea of Kirby trying to get help after Charlie stabbed her only to find Jill ranting at Sidney and her realising Jill was the other killer is sad.
@qqok1
@qqok1 Жыл бұрын
I think Kirby is the new killer. She planned the murders with Jill. They both planned to be survivors. So, the horror movie geek didnt know her best friend and long time crush were the killers? Yeah, right. And she conveniently gets stabbed but not to die? I think the killers in the new movie are kirby, stu, and tara's dad.
@coolcooldude1631
@coolcooldude1631 Жыл бұрын
Noooo don’t give it away
@qqok1
@qqok1 Жыл бұрын
@@coolcooldude1631 I'm just guessing. I don't know for sure.
@qqok1
@qqok1 Жыл бұрын
Isn't so convenient that Kirby is a police officer in New York and guess what, the killers are in New York too!!! lol. She would have access to all the crime scene things found in the shrine, she would have insight to feed her partners, and tara's dad would be easy to motivate considering Sam outed the fact he wasn't her dad and Billy was her real father, and Stu is the OG killer who never died. It makes sense to me. Tara could even be in on it.
@513hook513
@513hook513 Жыл бұрын
Jill was hell bent on being the new Sydney and the lone survivor. That wouldn't work if Kirby was alive still though.
@katymbeke8400
@katymbeke8400 Жыл бұрын
@@qqok1 *sips tea in “I’ve seen the 6th film”*
@rileybradley27
@rileybradley27 Жыл бұрын
Now all tho this seems like a good theory, I rewatched the movie and If you have earphones in during that scene, after Sidney calls for Kirby she doesn’t respond but u hear some sounds down there in the basement like she’s finding stuff to cover her wound. I wonder if maybe they will let her explain what goes down after that or do a flashback similar to what Halloween Kills did, cause I think we all deserve some sort of scene or reason how she survived. But it’s going to be interesting to see scream 6 and what they do for her character. My theory is she heard everything going on above and cause Jill was screaming super loud at Sidney and her reasoning for doing all this and so she stayed down there avoiding anything and just trying to save herself cause she was weak losing all that blood
@TheJayden3977
@TheJayden3977 Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment this. Ever since that movie was released I always thought that was Kirby. I think Kirby made it back to the basement, but heard Charlie and Jill so stayed quiet as she was in no position to do anything due to the stab wounds.
@rileybradley27
@rileybradley27 Жыл бұрын
@@TheJayden3977 exactly and if everybody went back to watch it with earphones at that moment you can definitely hear movement and things clinging in the basement and plus Jill and Charlie were in the main level of the house so who else could it be? That’s how I knew she was alive, but yea she definitely was in no condition to help Sidney she got stabbed twice in the gut and was bleeding out I doubt she would try to play hero and plus she was a horror movie fan she knows it wouldn’t be the smartest thing to do to help Sidney fight them off
@MrJai044
@MrJai044 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this was impressive and creatively done! I just thought if Kirby survived, Charlie did maybe intentionally stabbed her once but didn't expected her to live since it was deep. Kirby run as fast as she could away from the house and called for help. If the police discovered that she was alive back then, they would mention it and have a scene at the hospital since Sidney, Gale and Kirby had only one stab wound each. It was just later on discovered that she was alive and also a victim.
@johnfinnie1181
@johnfinnie1181 Жыл бұрын
I always thought when Sidney asks kirby where jill is She looks as if something clicked BUT then GF appeared
@bradydefelice2944
@bradydefelice2944 Жыл бұрын
I really hope that the next ghostface gets arrested at the end instead of going out in a blaze of glory like the others. It would help set up the seventh film
@jasonvoorhssfan666
@jasonvoorhssfan666 Жыл бұрын
If Scream 4 had a novelization this would have been perfect in a book.
@j2174
@j2174 Жыл бұрын
"glanced down at the kitchen" - erhm, that doesn't make any sense given how Kirby's house is set up...what stairs was she at the foot of?!
@omarxperez
@omarxperez Жыл бұрын
the front stairs? where robbie died at. or possibly the front of the stairs inside her house that lead to her bedroom, etc…
@j2174
@j2174 Жыл бұрын
@@omarxperez " omar 32 minutes ago the front stairs? where robbie died at. " - Yes thats the only one that maybe makes sense. But its weird to say "down". "or possibly the front of the stairs inside her house that lead to her bedroom, etc…" - Doesn't make sense for this at all given that she is super weak and could not climb a proper flight of stairs, and she wouldn't be able to see Jill and Sidney in the kitchen at all. - She also goes back and forth to the living room/dining room.
@mr.sweetheart7507
@mr.sweetheart7507 Жыл бұрын
imagine if we get a flashback seeing this in Scream 6
@Mislavvvv
@Mislavvvv Жыл бұрын
Man, do you do podcasts? I'd listen to u retelling stories :)
@rafac7384
@rafac7384 Жыл бұрын
There's a moment, just before Charlie attacks Sidney, she heard the door opening and says: "Kirby?". Then Charlie attacks her! I think that was Kirby opening the door.
@austincicero227
@austincicero227 Жыл бұрын
Kirby was literally the ride or die friend and her best friend just was like sure kill her for toying with your feelings
@DiegoMartinez-nm8hz
@DiegoMartinez-nm8hz Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the novelization for the Scream movies?
@megcollier3588
@megcollier3588 Жыл бұрын
This is content 🔥
@Msstephanie
@Msstephanie Жыл бұрын
Im really glad kirby survived and that we will see her in scream 6!
@Son-Of-David1990
@Son-Of-David1990 Жыл бұрын
What if kirby was a 3rd killer on her own and when she found out Jill was along with Charlie and heard jills plan and heard they died, decided to steal her fame plan and f waited for stu to serve his 25 years in prison to come back again in 6 and the reveal will be Kirby and stu are the killers and stu is her older brother.
@sck_stitch
@sck_stitch Жыл бұрын
After seeing scream 6 I wish this is what Kirby explained rather than the whole “I was dead for 4 minutes but doctors rescued me” thing
@jaywest3734
@jaywest3734 Жыл бұрын
Kirby would have only found out at the very end of the movie or after the events of the fourth film. I imagine she was unconscious after being stabbed twice by Charlie.
@jordanrollins624
@jordanrollins624 Жыл бұрын
where can i read your novelizations
@Deathtimeproductions
@Deathtimeproductions Жыл бұрын
I was so sad i thought she died in 4 she’s my favourite but I’m so Happy now 😊 I found out she survived
@DannyPop2013
@DannyPop2013 Жыл бұрын
I just watched 4. I feel kirby started questioning at her house when she was looking for everyone and jill came downstairs saying she found her phone and that trevor never went upstairs to find her.
@alexaronson
@alexaronson Жыл бұрын
I NEED TO BUY THESE NOVELIZATIONS!!!! PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE RELEASING THEM!
@anacarolinaclauman7961
@anacarolinaclauman7961 Жыл бұрын
I loved it
@jahbvbypost
@jahbvbypost 3 ай бұрын
You should’ve helped direct scream 6. I would’ve been dope hearing Kirby explain her friendship with Jill for a few seconds. Scream 6 was too rushed and didn’t have enough love put into it
@billymoore7182
@billymoore7182 Жыл бұрын
Only Sidney wasn't dead. She survived her attack and killed Jill at the hospital. Sidney is a survivor and can not easily be killed. She's tough. This scene from Scream 4 I don't like, but it proves why Sidney is my favorite final girl and why Jill called her Michael Myers. She's the angel of death. If Ghostface can't kill Sidney with two stabs, then how could Michael Myers kill her with one? He wouldn't. Sidney is too tough and who be a perfect match for Michael Myers, more so than Laurie Strode.
@HorrorParadise
@HorrorParadise Жыл бұрын
What
@Lilt348
@Lilt348 Жыл бұрын
huh?
@lightwave3959
@lightwave3959 Жыл бұрын
I hope they don’t bring her back just to kill her off or sacrifice herself to save someone else.
@rannz8
@rannz8 Жыл бұрын
Trailer coming out on the 19th!!
@CaulfieldBrooks312
@CaulfieldBrooks312 Жыл бұрын
Please, please put out the next chapter
@user-rl2rw3tp6s
@user-rl2rw3tp6s Жыл бұрын
Hey could you do a video on Charlie I think he’s the most underrated ghostface even through he did most of the killings
@richchappell
@richchappell Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that Kirby had apparently beaten Ghostface at the trivia game. She didn't even wait for the end of the final question, then she blurted out an endless stream of potential answers, of which only the first answer would count to Ghostface anyway. That's actually my least favorite scene in the movie, because I don't believe Kirby would react that way. It never felt right.
@MrJ1Horrordirector
@MrJ1Horrordirector Жыл бұрын
In the movie when jill comes down the stairs and says Trevor Is a liar bla bla bla Kirby looks at her like, "yeaaah right sketchy bitch" at that moment I realized along with the kirby character that jill was a ghostface. Thats why we love her, she super relatable.
@uravirginwhocantdrive1400
@uravirginwhocantdrive1400 Жыл бұрын
Although I like what you wrote… In the movie (Scream 4), right after Charlie stabs Kirby… the scene draws back to Sidney hearing something in the basement (it sounds like a door opening slowly) and she calls out to Kirby… No answer and before Sidney is able to go down the stairs Charlie grabs her from behind in a choke hold (right before the Jill reveal). That sound Sidney heard could have maybe been Kirby slowly trying to open the door to get in hence she was most likely crawling and weak from her wound.
@ProdbyER
@ProdbyER Жыл бұрын
I think Kirby is going to be a secret killer in the next one. They can easily say Charlie turned on her in Scream 4, and wanted to be with Jill instead of Kirby. Like was said in this video, they both love horror and serial killers. It was their idea and took in Jill to get Sidney. For Scream 6 she’ll a detective but also the secret killer. I think that would be insane and a crazy twist!! I’m here for it
@aaronbruns2726
@aaronbruns2726 Жыл бұрын
Good, but I think Kirby got back inside much quicker, probably from an adrenaline rush. Right before Charlie grabs Sidney, without the costume on, Sidney's at the top of the basement stairs. There's a small squeak/creak sound, and Sidney calls out "Kirby?" right before she's grabbed. I think that was the sound of a door hinge as Kirby crawled back inside. Maybe then she passed out for a moment and the rest could've gone as said in the video.
@tjfinecey
@tjfinecey Жыл бұрын
Nice fanfic
@dougustofilms
@dougustofilms Жыл бұрын
What if Kirby was actually one of the killers with Charlie or became a killer later in the movie, without knowing that Charlie was working with Jill? That way she can be the killer in Scream 6.
@weaktea4252
@weaktea4252 Жыл бұрын
I will definitely buy this novel.
THIS Kirby Reed VS Jill Roberts scene was CUT from Scream 4...
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