THE MONTH OF MANIA IS HERE

[@telekinesticman]

If you guys are looking down here, you're probably taking a look at the other comments. Well I just made a whole video reading through a bunch of them! Give it a watch right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKq9aKyihK2ja8U

[@Ritz190]

Sonic mania = sonic cd good future Sonic 4 = sonic CD bad future

[@kn6361]

Kaylon Sherman LOL, wow probably true

[@JAIQMUSIC]

It is actually true. The opening cutscene in Sonic 4 episode 2 where Eggman resurrects Metal Sonic is set in the Bad Future of Stardust Speedway.

[@Blueflag04]

sonic 4 = not really a bad game

[@Lazypackmule]

Sonic 4 has bad physics, bad mechanics, bad level design, bad music, bad plot, bad level concepts, bad special stages, and a bad episodic marketing scheme that left it unfinished when it was unceremoniously canceled due to bad sales- but it's actually a good game, trust me I'm a sonic fan

[@ojluxy6625]

Sonic Ace 24 your right. It's not bad. It's fucking horrendous

[@SuperStaticPro]

Congratulations on also being off the day Sonic Mania comes out. 👏🏼

[@Spencer556]

Yes sonic mania

[@sirdarwin06]

The reason the insta-shield wasn't added is because it was completely broken. Firstly, it was insanely overpowered for people who knew how to use it. And it wasn't accessible to players who were knew. Most people, like myself didn't even know what it did until they went on the internet. And it wasn't even that useful to new players. It was unbalanced. The drop dash helps Sonic with his main thing, speed. When you jump through a gap and lose all your speed? Drop dash. Had a poorly timed jump? Drop dash. Speedrunning? Drop dash will shave off half the time it took to speedrun a zone. And you don't have to use it. There is a spindash. Drop dash is more accessible to newer players and isn't as broken. As far as all original levels go, I have to agree with you here. I don't think the dev team would bring back new zones like this. I think Sega made them do so. But they are trying to make them a lot different than what you remember at least. Green hill and chemical plant act 2 are a great example of this. They're trying to make these zones as different as possible because they want them to feel almost original. They didn't want for flying battery to return, because that's a part of Sonic 3's plot. They didn't want stardust speedway in because that's a part of little planet. What now? Is little planet returning? Though, the gameplay looks spot on and staying true to the originals. I have it pre ordered now. Time will tell what it will have in store.

[@telekinesticman]

i definitely agree with you the levels, I'm really hoping that Flying Battery and Stardust Speedway get some form of basic reasoning for being in the game, story-wise. I disagree that the Insta-Shield is broken, though. It has such a tight window and can only be performed once per jump that I feel it requires a lot of skill to properly utilise in most situations. You still need to aim your jumps in just the right way that you don't accidentally get hit after the Insta-Shield has been used. I think the Drop Dash is great, but the Insta-Shield is far more compelling to me.

[@fosterglucose3214]

I don't live in Australia, but i can't help but feel hype for this dude. Great video.

[@telekinesticman]

Thanks man!

[@fosterglucose3214]

No problem.

[@Glux247]

9:35 - 10:50; That may be the best story I've heard all week. Like, I was genuinely happy,excited,teary-eyed at the end.

[@telekinesticman]

Aha that's great to hear. I wasn't sure if anyone would care about my little story about how I'll be playing Sonic Mania. Good to know it warmed someone's heart out there.

[@sugarskull7743]

When sonic mania comes out it'll be my birthday so yeah

[@telekinesticman]

Couldn't ask for a better birthday present!

[@sugarskull7743]

Anime&manga 4Life thanks :)

[@dennisbergkamp17]

I'm beyond fucking hyped for this game, like, I honestly can't remember the last time I was THIS excited for a new game. I feel 10 again.

[@succojones]

In my opinion, the drop dash fits sonics character way more than the insta shield.

[@telekinesticman]

Sure, but I would've preferred having the Insta-Shield AND the Drop Dash, rather than taking one over the other.

[@SuperWHIIITE]

That bit about the momentum and importance of Sonic is probably the most well put thesis of the utter genius and nuance behind the classic games that I've ever heard on this site. Fuck me m8 You just got a subscriber and I hope you get a hell of a lot more of them from this point on.

[@SuperWHIIITE]

Also, please notify me if you're actually thegamingbrit in disguise. Thank you.

[@telekinesticman]

Thank you so much! And no, that is not me. I'm Australian if that's somehow similar? But again, thank you loads!

[@connor2603]

That release date reaction though. I honestly am excited for forces it looks interesting to me .

[@telekinesticman]

That's fine! To each their own.

[@semvision]

Nothing about Forces looks interesting. At most it will be an average game.

[@supersmashmaster43]

I think the insta shield will make a return. In the Christian whitehead version of sonic 2 they had it as an option along with the other shields. Maybe we'll even see the super peel out too.

[@telekinesticman]

Yeah i really hope so! That would be awesome.

[@dreamcastdazia4753]

SuperSmashMaster43 Oh I didn't know you could get the instagram shield in Sonic 2 remaster. That's cool!

[@grigss3027]

i got 100 copies of sonic mania. 25 copies per platform.telekinestic man i love you

[@telekinesticman]

If you've bought that many copies of Sonic Mania then I love you too

[@grigss3027]

TelekinesticMan im glad to know that you read comments! Would you make letsplay for mania?

[@telekinesticman]

I read all my comments! Mainly because I normally don't get that many, so it's easy to see all of them, but eh. I won't do any kind of let's play for Mania, but I might try and stream it if my internet wants to cooperate. I'd like to do a review or video essay-styled piece after the game comes out, but I'll have a lot of university work at that point so I can't guarantee anything. Such is the life of someone running their KZbin channel as a hobby rather than a full-time job.

[@Blueflag04]

can you give some of the copy to people?

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

Don't be cheap, cheapo.

[@cursedtg]

So close I can taste it

[@kitdaily8079]

Long story short, pre-order Mania, it's going to kick ass.

[@HallowedGreaves]

I had no idea the spike log from green hill can be burned by the fire shield in mania

[@CarlosSanchez-fl6nf]

I love sonics games then this....this is FRICKIN ART

[@MegaReedX]

The advance games nailed the physics, probably the only time after the classics when they were the same as them

[@telekinesticman]

The Advance games were very, very close in most aspects, but they do feel a little bit heavier in my experience, and not quite as fast.

[@MegaReedX]

TelekinesticMan I haven't tested the physics in a while so I wouldn't be surprised if you're right thanks for the info

[@axelgear666]

I like Sonic advance 2 and 3 for their difficulty,my god getting those emerald were a pain but advance 1 was waay too easy. Back to Mania, it is a return to greatness. I too preordered the Switch collectors edition. Heres the thing that bothers me about modern sonic. Lack of platforming and I totally agree with peeps not understanding that it takes skill to keep up with momentum and speed to play a sonic game and even rewards you with hidden passageways on some ocassions. Modern sonic goes too fast it omits exploration, the paths are too linear and like the 06 and sonic adventure dolphin scenes, to name an example, feel heavily scripted. Like the game is controlling you and not the other way around. It's incredibly lazy if you ask me and every modern sonic suffers from that garbage. I like to call it filler. Also I've noticed Sega has a notorious habit of releasing Xmas season to raise profits. This is where major hurdles and bugs come to play and break the game even further. I'm not excited for Forces, Every time sega slips up more info regarding forces, it feels like its gonna bomb big time but heey!!! all the little kids and autistic #^#^%s will pick it up so no problem there. Believe me, I'm not a Sonic fantard or a classic cuck, I like Sonic mania and the direction they are heading with but I feel sega should kill this hedgehog. I know it seems harsh but they have a whole lot of IP's that havent been released Toe jam and earl,vectorman or even a new altered beast for example would be a breathe of fresh air. NB = I'm more of a fan of Sparkster/rocket knight adventures than I am a Sonic fan. I grew up with the genesis and seen shit change for better or worse. The divided fandom for sonic is whats keeping him both alive and on life support

[@Blueflag04]

advance 2 kinda the weakest in the series

[@axelgear666]

sonic advance 1 was easier than sonic 1

[@jfunny]

8:55 oooooooh so sega does remember about their old characters

[@telekinesticman]

I actually really hate that they're doing that. Bringing back Chaos and stuff is just "wow, THINGS I KNOW!!!" pandering references. Chaos isn't even a villain after SA1, so they'll be some super contrived reason of as to why he is back, along with an evil Shadow and the stupid Deadly Six.

[@jfunny]

I was just watching your sonic mania video........weird

[@mps64]

12 days till MANIA!

[@stevenrivera802]

Baby Driver is awesome! It's now my favorite Edgard Wright movie.

[@telekinesticman]

I don't know if I'm more happy that you agree, or that someone actually watched that far into the video. Thanks either way!

[@Jarbloko]

mania 2, should have all brand new zones

[@JackGPH]

Did you notice how in mania the fire shield burns down the spikey wood bridge but doesn't go out in the water and doesn't burn down the normal bridge

[@telekinesticman]

I love the level-specific elemental shield abilities like that, such as how Flying Battery uses the Electric Shield for anti-gravity sections. I didn't catch the fire shield not disappearing in water though, I might need to scrub through some footage to find that.

[@themastergamerextreme9107]

First Mount of mania I've been in

[@jacksonroy3556]

I hope you now feel important and satisfied that your magnum opus is now complete

[@jscomment5466]

You know what I find interesting? Green Hill Act 2 looks like a hybrid of Green Hill and Hill Top

[@sonicmastersword8080]

It is now the week of Sonic Mania.

[@Sarbell111111]

Imagine sonic 3 ank knuckles ios and android comes out at the same time as mania as a surprise

[@gigidyyy]

Nice video... but em thanks for spoiling Sonic Time Twisted in the blink of an eye!! Was not expecting that and was planning on playing it! :p

[@MegaReedX]

Awesome video I cannot agree more

[@MisterX867]

Lol good use of the Palmtree Panic music

[@_mango_]

If Marble Garden is the Sonic 3 stage being added (there was a leak that made it seem so), there is only 1 classic stage to represent each game, thus leaving the rest of the levels to be original, then Hydrocity will be DLC (I say will because even if I’m correct that the water level will be original, they will make official DLC because of the high demand).

[@StarWyse]

5:26 *looks at background* I THINK I'M GONNA BE SICK!!!

[@evanatorextreme1065]

HOLD UP! What about Nov. 23rd? The "Sonic Mania Day"

[@JAIQMUSIC]

The drop dash looks amazing I would choose that any day over the spindash.

[@telekinesticman]

I've got nothing wrong with the Drop Dash! I just like the Insta-Shield a lot, is all.

[@jasethomas1]

Really great video. Also, as far as Sonic Forces goes, I feel that it takes the best parts of Colors and Generations and that's why I'm excited for it. Colors is my favorite Sonic game (yes, even over the originals), and I loved the speed in Generations as well, so that's why I think Sonic Forces will be very enjoyable.

[@telekinesticman]

Fair enough! I really like Generations and personally think Colours is pretty good, but to me Forces is adopting the worst features of both. That's just me, you're entitled to your own opinion.

[@SoniMarSponge]

I cant believe its coming out next Tuesday now

[@SoniMarSponge]

Wow time flys!

[@balmymussel266]

One zone I would love to see for water level...

[@CounterVen]

telekinesticMan IM SO SORRY for you pc version for mania is coming out 26th august im in pc too

[@telekinesticman]

Yeah I know, it stinks. I'm buying it on the Switch again anyway so I can play it on release day.

[@CounterVen]

well i dont have a switch so bad luck for me

[@tepigplays52]

LESS THAN 1 WEEK TILL IT COMES OUT WOOOO

[@Splonton]

Thank you for the flattering comments but modern me deserves some credit his new game probably won't be that bad. But thanks!

[@telekinesticman]

Hey no problem! I love Modern Sonic as well (at least, when he's voiced by Ryan Drummond and not written like an arsehole try-hard hipster) but his current game isn't exactly filling me with high hopes. Now if we had an Adventure-styled fully 3D momentum-based platformer with Modern Sonic, a la Sonic Utopia, I would be incredibly happy.

[@Splonton]

Btw I only agreed to be in forces because sega promised me my own game (mania) but I can tell you it isn't as bad as you think. I would know, i'm in it!

[@telekinesticman]

Well you better not let me down, it looks like you forgot all your momentum and controls after Mania by the time you show up in Forces. Maybe cut down on the chilli dogs for a bit to get some better physics again? Or spend all the Mania money on liposuction?

[@Splonton]

Nah that's on sega, the new physics are... Questionable, but dont worry my sections are only 1 third of the game, plus if you dont like forces you can alwase wash it out of your system with some mania.

[@Splonton]

I told them not to go with the generations physics, but boom sonic was in the room and he isn't the best at making decisions. And you know how that worked out.

[@_mango_]

Sonic Mania will break the Sonic Cycle (not Forces, I think people now it will be less than expectations, even if it’s good) because it will actually be up to expectations (even though it might be better).

[@MolatinoSuperStar]

the month of sonic mania is the month of my birth, my birthday is on the 6th of August

[@leopjesus]

14:03 Sonic Official confirmed that Sonic Mania and Forces isn't the last time we'll see Green Hill ;(

[@telekinesticman]

Uh oh.

[@Blueflag04]

hooray

[@steamy1386]

I subscribed because I totally agree with you on forces

[@JakeG246]

It didn't even occur to me that us Brisbane-folk get the day off for Mania ^_^ thanks for the reminder!

[@telekinesticman]

No problem! Weird hearing from someone in the same city, let alone state or country actually watch my videos. Hope you enjoy Mania!

[@JakeG246]

I know right? I saw your video and was like "awww yeah, Mania hype!" and then heard your accent "hey an Australian, nice!" and then when you said you were from Brisbane I almost spat my coffee out all over my computer in an over-the-top cartoonish fashion in disbelief. You've earned yourself a subscriber! S3&K is one of my favourite games of all time and I can't believe we are a week away from finally playing something of that quality once again!

[@JakeG246]

We ended up getting Mania on the Switch eShop at 12am this morning after all :) Didn't get as much sleep as usual last night, naturally.

[@teengamerboss888]

I just got what the elevator buttons were representing in the trailer and I feel dumb now.

[@telekinesticman]

Aha, I guess if one said "CD" it may have been a bit too obvious.

[@TheSwordofFlames]

I'm really excited for Mania too, but I certainly don't think Forces looks bad. I think for the most part, it just looks like a Colors/Generations hybrid. The modern Sonic stages look exactly like colors, and you have classic Sonic in Generations style. I'm more skeptical about Forces than I am Mania, but I'm optimistic about it.

[@shortstopgirl9729]

I preordered on Xbox one

[@lcvd7880]

Xxgamer MasterxX Same

[@Blueflag04]

$20 is kinda expensive tho

[@tepigplays52]

Xxgamer MasterxX same

[@sapien537]

Xxgamer MasterxX you shoulda had a pc

[@shortstopgirl9729]

Anon Unknown I have a pc but a do not how it preordered on pc

[@champ6959]

just a question if sonic ad the peelout , would he be broken or equal to tails and knucks ? and i can't wait to go super but i hope that it doesn't play a jingle but instead keeps the music beacause its SO GOOD and imagine super sonics drop dash , i hope it gets special effects

[@telekinesticman]

I don't think the Peel Out would break Sonic's movement over the other characters, not at all. It's basically just an alternative to the Spin Dash, but takes more time for revving up. I think you can easily balance it out. In fact, when I play Sonic 3 Complete, I always enable the "Max Control" option, where Sonic gets the Peel Out back. And yes I do agree with Super Sonic. I can't wait to see what they do with him, and while I prefer the fast music over a different looping jingle, I kind of want both in the game as options, just so we can at least get another new piece of music. Who knows, maybe the Super Sonic jingle this time will be really good?

[@humbletom49]

intsead of asking of meaning of life adk IS SONIC MANIA GONA SURPASS ANND KNUKLES!!!!!!!

[@BahnDaten]

Does it work on mobile?

[@balmymussel266]

I can totally imagine they could have the pipes and stuff the iconic water bubble boss fight maybe a bubble shield or two? Eh? eh? Then again it could always be a new stage but if it's a classic water level I place my bets on tidal tempest

[@balmymussel266]

Even though some of you are thinking aquatic ruin or hydro city or labyrinth (maybe not) I'm gonna say tidal temptest

[@telekinesticman]

That could be an interesting choice. Hydrocity is the more prominent fan-favourite, but Tidal Tempest is possible, too.

[@waterfowlgeneral]

Sonic is not the sequel to Sonic 3 and Knuckles.It is the sequel to Sonic CD

[@Alex-su3cu]

THE WEEK OF MANIA IS HERE BRUH!!

[@SS3Dman]

Must suck for you now that the Pc version is been held back

[@FranboiseSenpai]

Me I think Sonic Forces could be a good game, if they're making it like Sonic Generations, which is for me the best 3D Sonic Game, I think they could make a pretty good game

[@gamingenelixer2172]

Great video!

[@kerrodjohnson5098]

Ok, i just have one thing to say... I never thought that I would ever watch a Sonic the Hedgehog video and have the f***ing Ekka mentioned hahahaha

[@telekinesticman]

And I never thought someone else in Brisbane or Queensland would watch this! Haha.

[@kerrodjohnson5098]

TelekinesticMan haha Roma to be precise ;)

[@telekinesticman]

Ah, I'm not exactly close to there but my university isn't too far off!

[@iTZzG4M3rHD]

and its also the month of me “Neon!” august 14 is my birthday! :D

[@hazzabe32]

Caelum, Did you pre-order Mania on Switch, PS4 or XB1? Either way, great video :D

[@telekinesticman]

I preordered it on Steam, then the Switch Collector's Edition, and will be buying it again (digitally) on the Switch on launch day so I can play it straight away (the CE will take WEEKS to hit Australia, and the Steam version has been delayed). Thanks for the praise!

[@hazzabe32]

You're welcome. This is a very detailed video and I continue to watch it over and over again

[@PokechiYT]

hey why did sonic do a peel out in sonic 3 at 1:44

[@telekinesticman]

Oh, I'm playing Sonic 3 Complete, as I sort of mentioned in the video. It lets you enable the Super Peel Out for Sonic.

[@Ada_EXE]

Nice Video

[@deadchannellol2889]

Eh I kinda think forces will be good but I'm way more hyped for mania

[@brendarocks23]

It on my birthday

[@sonicthehedgehog2854]

Enjoy your birthday! It's gonna be great!

[@cesaro876]

Sonic The Hedgehog Woag that sounds awfully similar to the "Enjoy your future! It's gonna be great!" From Generations

[@Blueflag04]

+Noss what could possibly go wrong

[@caseymaher1]

I swear to god if they don't bring back hyper sonic I'll shoot myself

[@No-hl5vs]

I'm not a fan of classic sonic, that is why I'm not that excited for Mania. But Forces on the other hand, I can't wait, looks great to me!

[@RubberYen]

I like how Forces gets shat on even though it tries to replicate what made Generations good.

[@telekinesticman]

Generations did some things quite well, but still wasn't perfect. For example, Classic Sonic in Generations feels nothing like Classic Sonic. The difference is that Forces is just being lazy and trying to be Generations again without putting in the effort to improve anything. Instead it has regressed. The level design is filler, straight-line nothingness in every level they have shown off, and the characters (appear to) control worse, which is backed up by a friend of mine who has played a demo of Forces at SDCC. Doing the same thing as another game is only good if you actually try to make some improvements, or at least match it in quality. Forces, to me, is a complete drop from the high of Generations.

[@RubberYen]

I think you're just better off waiting until the full game actually comes out to give impressions. Sega haven't really shown off too much of this game aside from a couple of different levels and a boss battle. Classic sonic gameplay I'm not entirely impressed with, but it's mostly modern sonic that I'm personally looking forward to the most. What I'm worried however is that two classic levels are making a comeback (green hill and chemical plant) and I pray to god there is no more after that since Mania and Generations already did so.

[@telekinesticman]

I understand what you mean to an extent, but Mania has been fairly quiet as well in terms of major content to be shown off, as we've only seen a few acts, a boss, a miniboss and then a few glimpses of other acts. All of these pieces of content look fantastic. Sonic Forces, on the other hand, has shown nothing but disappointing information with every reveal it's had. I don't think it's healthy to get your hopes up on the idea of "well maybe they just haven't shown all the good levels yet!!!" or something like that. I'm not directing this criticism directly at you necessarily, as I've seen it all over Twitter a heap of times.

[@RubberYen]

To YOU yes Forces does look disappointing, but for me it just looks like more of the same that I saw in Generations which is a game that I enjoyed a lot. You make it sound like I'm not supposed to be optimistic for this game just because you don't like the way it looks and plays. Of course I'm not saying that you yourself have to be hyped for this game. If the game looks like trash to you and have valid criticism (which you do) that's perfectly fine. In regards to Sega keeping "quiet" about Mania, now I could be wrong about this but considering how this is a $20 game I don't really think Sega has much else to show for Mania before revealing like 90% of all of the levels. Plus on top of that, Mania is coming out first and they want to advertise this game as much as they can before Forces steals show.

[@telekinesticman]

I just feel that in terms of controls and level design, Forces is a massive drop in quality from Generations, which already had some issues. If Forces had actually shown some cool new stages with multiple pathways and slopes, I'd be interested! But everything they've shown so far is a straight line with block platforming, and rows of enemy chains. It's so boring to me. Also everything else surrounding it in terms of presentation and tone (including the music) is not my thing at all. Again, even the music is "bad" in my eyes, which is such a shame because Tomoya Ohtani has composed most of my favourite Sonic music. I guess in a sense, I am still "hopeful" that Forces does turn out to be good, but literally everything they have shown to me so far is a bad sign, and I haven't even mentioned the pandering custom character and edgy rapping villain yet. I still think I probably should do a full video on this to get my points across before the game launches. If you like the look of Forces, that's perfectly fine, but to me, I have much better games to look forward to instead.

[@TheGrassySceptile]

I'm just buying this game cuz I need a new game to play (and my bro and nephew likes sonic too I guess) i'm slightly hyped so yeah...

[@eyitsaperson]

The month of mania is also the same month as the month of jailbreak, coincidence? I really think it is. (I say it's the same as in it's in the same month, not that mania and jailbreak are the same, why would I say that?)

[@waterfowlgeneral]

Sorry TelekinesticMan.This is the first video i have seen on your channel,so i don't know what are the main Sonic games you like.

[@FireBlades]

I need snoc mania

[@CdotNaoki]

Most people don't get why Sonic 3 is so good - and the OGs in general. You hit it on the nail. I won't give u on Forces though. I think it has a chane to be good, but honestly Modern Sonic games are staring to look arcadish. It's not just the boost gameplay, but the lack of well rounded gameplay in general. Sonic hasn't had a proper hub world since Unleashed. Now the other boost games just feel like arcade games because realistically you just play one level when you feel like it and go to something else. Maybe it doesn't apply to everyone but the streamlined feel of them is too pick-up-n-play to feel lie Sonic. Yes other Sonic games have been like that, but not to the point where I feel like they shouldn't be on a console. Oh, and those "other" games I was speaking of were the Advance games - but honestly those are much deeper than what we have right now. Btw Sonic Advance 2's "hold right to win" thing is complete bogus with all the Dimps placed enemies. That said, this game is really satisfying when you earn your speed with the air dashes and timing your tricks - and air dashes. Deceptively difficult. Speedrunnig that game successfully will give you a moaning disorder. I have an obsession with going fast - the right way

[@KennyAims]

I thought the month of mania was in November...

[@Orange_Swirl]

I'm kind of "meh" about _Sonic Mania._ This game would just be *so,* *so* much better if it were 100% percent original stages! Also, Takashi Iizuka (current head of Sonic Team) is the one came up with _Sonic Mania's_ concept. Most specifically the "unoriginal stages."

[@telekinesticman]

Yeah, I do agree the game would probably be "better" without the old levels, but we'll have to see. For the most part they do seem to be taking the concept to quite new areas, but Green Hill Zone in particular is still a bit of a "oh boy, this again". I really hope a Mania sequel is nothing but all-new levels, as I said in the video.

[@TurboPikachu]

10:42 lmaoooo

[@B_schnak]

It comes out on my birthday 😋😋

[@alexponteri8293]

>published July 31, 2017 What did he mean by this?

[@telekinesticman]

You mean how KZbin displays it as being uploaded on the last day of July? I dunno, I released it when American had hit midnight August 1st, so it's odd. KZbin is stupid.

[@TopherCadence]

Really? Because I'm equally hyped for this and Forces

[@MegaReedX]

Topher Cadence same I'm hyped for both

[@telekinesticman]

Eh, me not so much. I might do a more in-depth video after Mania launches if I get the time, and hopefully when we get some more footage. I've covered this more in my previous videos, but Forces just looks really lazy to me.

[@TopherCadence]

TelekinesticMan to each his own I suppose haha

[@MegaReedX]

TelekinesticMan thanks for clarifying your gripes

[@bluevelocity9166]

What really concerns me the most is sales Mania is going to do well like REALLY REALLY well I know it. So we'll that even if forces does sell well as well it might give the idea the Sonic should just be a 2D franchise and never go back to 3D and Iam most likely wrong but the thought kinda scares me a little that's why Iam at least hopeing forces sells well

[@dominiqueguenette2794]

Sonic mania is sonic 5!

[@daillouanimations7924]

Sonic Mania is a prequel to forces.

[@telekinesticman]

Correct! Keep in mind this video was released before the game was even out, so nobody knew that yet.

[@daillouanimations7924]

TelekinesticMan I know that. Someone said 12 days 'til mania.

[@rainopaino]

As excited I am for Mania. I'm a bit cautious for Stardust Speedway, the music is god like which is the only reason I wanted it in Mania, but the level design in CD, like you said was too bouncy and Stardust was guilty of that too imo. I kind of hope they release a little trailer for Stardust like they did for Knuckles in Flying Battery. Only show of 1 minute of it to get an idea of its level design. Last thing I'm cautious about is if Super Sonic will have a theme or not. I usually prefer the music to just be sped up instead of a repetitive theme like Sonic 3 has. Maybe if it's so fantastic I won't care? I dunno, I still prefer sped up music regardless.

[@telekinesticman]

You bring some good points about Stardust Speedway, I can see your worries. I have thought about that a little bit myself as well. I'm wondering how the game is going to tie in all of the locations from across different islands (and the Little Planet) in Mania, too. I agree with the sped up stage themes for Super Sonic, as well. That's what I use for Sonic 3 Complete, so I hope this is the case, or at least an option. Maybe give him a theme that isn't just ten seconds long? I dunno.

[@susanfranklin8499]

I might sub Btw forces is gonna be good 2

[@unknownperson9681]

Sonic mania comes out 8:00 AM american time

[@Gestersmek]

unknown person Um... in which time zone? America spans 4 time zones.

[@unknownperson9681]

Jamal Mian pacific time

[@telekinesticman]

Really? Have SEGA officially confirmed this?

[@unknownperson9681]

TelekinesticMan yes

[@telekinesticman]

...source?

[@bluewulv]

I'm... Still worried about how many levels the game has... and if it'll get online updates with more levels. I still don't get why they hate thw super emeralds so much though.

[@telekinesticman]

I completely understand the idea of ignoring the Super Emeralds. I love having something else to unlock in the game, but the idea of an additional Sonic transformation is a bit silly. Also, they said the game will be comparable in length to Sonic 3 & Knuckles, which has 12 zones (Angel Island, Hydro City, Marble Garden, Carnival Night, Ice Cap, Launch Base, Mushroom Hill, Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Lava Reef, Hidden Palace/Sky Sanctuary (too short to count as a zone each), and Death Egg). So I'm not too worried!

[@bluewulv]

TelekinesticMan So you're saying you don't like the super emeralds? And 12 is too short a number of levels.

[@telekinesticman]

I love the addition of the Super Emeralds in 3&K, but I do feel they aren't needed any further than that, due to the reasons Aaron Webber explained at the Mania event, which I paraphrased before. Sonic doesn't need to be more like DBZ. And 12 zones is fine, honestly. It's more than most of the classic games (Sonic 1 had 6, Sonic 2 had 10 if you count Sky Chase and Wing Fortress separately, Sonic CD had 7, etc. So I feel that 12 is a fine amount. Keep in mind that's 12 zones with 2 acts each, and then there will probably be separated final boss acts and things, too.

[@bluewulv]

TelekinesticMan So no future updates for more new original and reimagined zones? And the hyper forms... as long as they're fun and satisfying, people will love to have them back in. And it's not like having a hint of dbz inspiration is a bad thing. Lots of cool stuff we love is inspired by that franchise.

[@bluewulv]

TelekinesticMan What... were Aaron's reasons?

[@michaelferguson7032]

Sonic Mania will have The Following Stages: Stages That will be added or not added to Sonic Mania and Why: Sonic 1: Green Hill Zone Confirmed These Stages Wont be added : Marble Zone: Too Slow. Some stage gimicks will likely get used for Lava Reef Zone. Spring Yard Zone: Studiopolis Zone uses similar gimmicks as this zone Labynirth Zone: Hydrocity is a better water stage by design. This zone is very bland by comparison. Predicting only one water level and this isn't it. Starlight Zone: Would love to see this zone but it Wont beat out Stardust Speedway as a City Scape Zone Scrap Brain Zone. This Death Egg, Metropolis, and Metallic Madness level elements will be combined to make a original zone. This, eliminating Scrap Brain. Sonic 2 stage that get included Chemical Plant Confirmed Mystic Cave Zone:There really isn't another stage like this in the sonic series. Haven't seen any gimmicks such as the 3 boxes rotating or the levers used an any of the sonic mania stages yet. This stage gets included These stages wont be added: Emerald Hill: Too similar to Green Hill Zone. We don't need another green and brown themed stage.Same goes for Angel Island Aquatic Ruin: Hydrocity will be the main water level. Although certain elements from this stage could be used in that level. Casino Night Zone: A bit too similar to Studiopolis Zone with those bouncing stars. Zone 2 of Studiopolis will probably look like Casino Night or Carnival Night. Result___ not included in Mania Hill Top Zone: Just a Green Hill zone color palate swap. Wont get included Oil Ocean Zone: Would be a cool Zone to have. But we already have a desert themed stage. Mirage Saloon. We wont get to desert stages. Metropolis Zone: gimmicks from this stage have already been used in other stages revealed for Mania. What do we need this stage for then? Sonic 3 stages that get included: Hydrocity Zone: The best water stage in all of Sonic Ice Cap Zone: The only thing that would stop this stage would be the music from Michael Jackson. These stages won't be included: Angel Island: This is just another Green Hill Zone. Not needed and nothing special about this zone Marble Garden Zone: Good zone but with the limited amount of stages, it does't make the cut. Would be nice to see this stage mixed with Marble Garden though Carnival Night: Too similar to studiopols. Not neded Launch Base Zone: With gimmicks from this stage already used such as hanging and pipes. What good is this stage for? Sonic & Knuckes stages that get included: Flying Battery Zone Confimed Lava Reef Zone: Seriously, there isn't another stage like it. the Lava stage that gets included without a doubt is Lava Reef. These stages wont be included: Mushroom Hill: Just like Green Hill, Angel Island, Emerald Hill, and Palmtree Panic. They're all the same category Sandapolis Zone: Really Cool Zone but we already have a desert themed stage. Wouldn't mind to see this remade though. Sky Sanctuary Zone: This stages element will go into a new original stage. Death Egg: Elements from this stage have already been used in flying battery. This stage won't make the cut either. Sonic CD stages included: Stardust Speedway Confirmed This is the only Sonic CD stage with a decent layout. These stages won't be included: Palm Tree Panic: We dont need another stage with Green Grass, What does this stage have to offer? Collision Chaos: Several elements of this stage has been used in Mirage Saloon. Thus rendering it useless. Tidal Tempest: Nice music but Boring Stage. Hydro City is Mania's water stage. Quarts Quardiant: I hear a lot of people want this stage, I just don't see anything special about it. Metallic Madness: This is just another Scrap Zone stage with awful music and bad stage design. Plus several elements of this stage have been used in other Sonic Mania stages. All other stages will be orginal

[@telekinesticman]

Wow, I agree with pretty much all of your stage ideas and reasoning. Great comment! I still hope that there ain't toooo many old levels, as I really want to see a lot of new ones. That being said, I would love to see Mystic Cave, Hydrocity and Lava Reef in some respect.

[@brandonstinson4988]

Metallic Madness US version doesn't sound as good as the JP one, but it instills the sense of dread that fits the stage. Its more serious.

[@_mango_]

Michael Ferguson saw a leak from an art book or autograph thing for mania and the stick figure Sonic (and Tails) have the blue wheel pulleys fro Marble Garden, with some of the unique dirt (crumbly, like M A R B L E) and grass. You can probably look it up, and i saw a video on it as well. Also, that might mean that there’s a unique water stage, unless we clamor for Hydrocity DLC. (There’s also the off chance they could do the multiplayer levels from Sonic 3 like Balloon Park as DLC, too.) There is another, less plausible theory that there are multiple per each classic game, but that doesn’t make much sense for the rest of the original Zone additions. I’m HOPING, though, that Hydrocity is the water level (and has the snazzier Act 2 Music, which is arguably better than the jazzier Act 1 Music).

[@bluewulv]

Michael Ferguson Sadly... I wish Death Egg or something similar in atmosphere would make it in

[@bluewulv]

Michael Ferguson But I do have to agree that I want more new original levels. Like having updates like Freedom Planet. And I also want the insta shield and super emeralds and hyper transformations back. Tails needs one too.

[@100Bucks]

I liked sonic 2 better. Sonic 3 not so much. I think it had something to do with the music in sonic 2.

[@austincrafton178]

Okay let me make this perfectly clear SONIC FORCES HASN'T CAME OUT YET SO STOP GIVEING IT HATE after all it's giving you oc's the boost formula and classic sonic gameplay what more do want from sega that's why we get sub par sonic main games like why!?!

[@telekinesticman]

If I can't say Forces looks bad when it's not out, then you can't say it looks good, by that logic. I disagree with that mentality entirely. Also, compare the Classic gameplay in Forces to Mania. One is CLEARLY better than the other. If Classic Sonic in Forces was actually good, I wouldn't really be complaining, would I?

[@austincrafton178]

TelekinesticMan Ok one I never said that it was good or bad what I am saying is to give he game a chance and second the gameplay in mania maybe or is better than forces but the fact the there giving the option is nothing to complain about

[@telekinesticman]

Why care about being given an option if that option is bad? Being able to eat your own vomit is an option, but that doesn't make it a GOOD one. And I did give Forces a chance, all up to the day they showed off the first piece of gameplay (the Modern Sonic footage in the city level from the day they announced the game's title). Once they showed off that gameplay my interest dropped significantly. I was still open to see improvements, and while I would still LIKE to be pleasantly surprised with the game, every single time they show off more of it, it looks worse. So I have given Forces multiple chances. It just needs to start improving and maybe I'll sing it some praise.

[@celestialstar5563]

sonic fans live here :)

[@Blueflag04]

watch as ign give bad review on these game

[@colostomybaguette6122]

8:21 jayman9609

[@Blueflag04]

Sonic 4 Isnt a bad game

[@telekinesticman]

Nah, not a fan of it. Sonic 4 completely misses the point of the classics, and is not a sequel to 3&K at all.

[@drasconboy6349]

Sonic 2 was better than Sonic 3

[@zebuez]

then it sucks

[@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688]

Why are you guys acting like cycle forces going to be a horrible game

[@telekinesticman]

Watch the video, and my previous E3 videos to see why I dislike the look of the game.

[@Dangerous2099]

Sonic Forces looks wack

[@axelgear666]

forces looks scripted, I bet theres gonna be moments where the game takes control of you rather than you take control of the character in game.The Orca scene from Sonic adventure and 06 is an example of automated scripted play plus Forces looks very linear and you can't even go back to explore the stage so platforming looks to suffer quite a bit. It sucks that the Sonic fandom is incredibly divided but I also feel that gimmicks add insult to injury just to be able to please everyone. Chris chan must be having an orgasm by now with forces. Just you wait!!!, Some asshole is gonna create a SoniChu character

[@axelgear666]

btw ordered mania collectors for switch, it looks breathtaking and a return to greatness

[@Dangerous2099]

Good 4 u buddy, I'm gonna buy/download on the 15th..

[@luigismansion44]

No offense but ur a total fanboy lmao

[@telekinesticman]

For Classic Sonic, yeah I am quite a bit. I like to think that I can ignore my bias in some regards. Again I did specifically mention some flaws in Sonic 3 despite it being my favourite game ever made. But yes, I won't disagree that I am a fanboy.

[@yxng_xav7166]

I ordered the PS4 collecters edition but all you classic fanboys critics talking shot bout forces is annoying I have a the original sonic game and I have most of the releases after stop bitching bout modern sonic just be happy we are getting games for fucks sake forces will probably as good as Mania this game has been developed for 3 years have faith in Sonic team

[@telekinesticman]

That's an extremely close-minded way of looking at things. Videogames are an art form, treat them as such. They are creative works that shouldn't be thought of as "oh be thankful we are getting more!".

[@telekinesticman]

Oh, and they are also products that you purchase with MONEY. Demand something that is actually good, don't be "happy" that you're wasting money on garbage, that's complete ignorance.

[@yxng_xav7166]

TelekinesticMan the game isn't released yet but you call it garbage who is the close minded one and I'm trying to say be happy that we get to amazing games Sonic is one of the best franchises but has a toxic un agreeable fan base forces will be a great game and so will Mania but you constantly bash Forces but we barley know anything about it maybe try forming an educated opinion

[@telekinesticman]

I didn't say Forces was garbage, I meant that in a hypothetical situation, don't just accept that you're being sold a garbage game. Be a smart consumer, see through lies and expect thought to be put into your games, just like any other medium. So why is it ok for you to say Forces "will be a great game" when it hasn't released yet, but not for me to say it looks bad? Sounds like a double standard to me, and it's one I hear all the time.

[@yxng_xav7166]

TelekinesticMan I said it will be a great game your just a classic fanboy that probably hates all modern Sonic games so your literally being a complete ass to the rest of the franchise your calling Sonic Mania the greatest Sonic game ever made and it hasn't released yet and i can't say a game will be great sorry that my double standard is worse then your praise for an unreleased game 😐