The Montreal ScrewJob! Bruce Prichard & Eric Bischoff Explore Both Sides

[@Razorback667]

This seals the deal…Bruce and Eric need a podcast doing this for the Monday night wars!!!

[@williammitchell4417]

The only thing that could make it better?? CORNY¡!

[@feralspamlet]

Bruh seriously. This is so good. Their chemistry is off the damn charts

[@deathomega6208]

You stole the words from my thumbs. Their dynamic is great, and they were key players on either side. It would make for a great insider view of the business, for sure.

[@bigdaddyroy5382]

Without Conrad you forgot to add, or Conrad can be the sidekick who brings up the observer and Eric and Bruce shit on it and Meltzer and Conrad can't whine and cry about it. As in he does own the show

[@craigugulini3409]

They are great together there both funny as fuck too

[@cjvaye99]

I love how everyone Conrad does a show with will never miss an opportunity to bury Dave Meltzer

[@craigugulini3409]

It’s because Dave is the biggest mark in the history of wrestling

[@craigugulini3409]

@@cjvaye99 the guy has made a living off of kids buying his newsletter as he would make up random shit about storylines, debuts, backstage drama etc…….he’s really just a loser

[@TL2354]

Not burying if it’s true

[@brianmorgan6524]

It's because Dave is a total mark being worked by all the wrestlers he thinks are his friends like the so called "Elite" 🙄

[@elmer0308]

FDM

[@mattthomas1442]

Reasonable creative control is that it's within reason on BOTH Sides not just WWE like Bruce/Eric make it sound like. Was it within reason for Bret to lose to Shawn? Sure, but it also was within reason for Bret to say they either have a non finish, Shawn put him over 1st then return the favor or Bret put over an opponent of his choosing. Bret didn't ask to beat Shawn clean, then beat Austin clean on Raw the next, Taker the following Raw etc. and basically run through WWE's roster before going to WCW. That would be unreasonable. He said not to lose to a specific opponent on a specific night even saying that he didn't have to win, just not lose. That's within reason.

[@1981bigdee]

It wasn't reasonable to have a non finish in the last ppv match they'd have for at least 3 years. What would've been reasonable was for Shawn to win the title due to outside interference. The bottom line is Bret just didn't want to drop the title because he truly thought all this was real

[@ashleyvanheuklon7661]

The issue with Brett coming back at later time and dropping the belt was after SS he would no longer be under contract. So how was that fair to other guys in the locker room to have someone who no longer worked for the company to be champion. That makes no sense. Brett couldn't understand it wasn't all about him.

[@berkajr3685]

One of the more interesting podcasts in a loooong time. Way to go guys.

[@KennyHinz]

I've gotta say... Hearing Bruce and Eric talk about the behind the scenes of each side was brilliant and amazing to listen to. I hope these 2 do more shows 1 on 1 together in the future!

[@ettoresantarelli7430]

😂

[@TheEWFX29]

One of the best shows in a long time. Unique prospectives from the inner circle. Great stories and anecdotes. Such a unique take from both sides all we needed was Bret to have someone from each side. Great show guys.

[@hitmangfx7162]

Eric is by far the best "B" host for these podcasts. More please!

[@ILoveFilm247]

I wish he was the A host

[@88smjls]

Vince on any podcast giving a real interview would break all records.

[@joeyzapata6786]

Vince's appearance on the Pat McAfee show was great.

[@franklinmardy8171]

@@joeyzapata6786 yea word

[@billieboybuddha4238]

@@joeyzapata6786 Absolutely man! I was not one of them anyway, but I hope many people who think Vince is a horrible monster go watch it and see a different side. Not that Vince cares, as he says himself in that show, if people think you are evil, you can't change their mind anyway

[@OmegaRedFan]

​@@joeyzapata6786👒👒

[@Rich51185]

Bret never had an issue losing the belt. It annoys me when they say he didn’t want to stop the title. Shawn literally said he wouldn’t lose to Bret ever and he wouldn’t protect him in the ring. Bret didn’t want to lose to someone that wasn’t a professional and wasn’t a quality human being. He would have lost to ANYONE ELSE. It wasn’t about legacy. It was about integrity.

[@mj-7444]

Shawn Michaels tapped out to the sharpshooter.

[@DR.64A9]

Brett has literally complained about every single time he dropped the WWF title. He always says it was a bad idea and that he didn't think it was right. Brett definitely didn't want to drop the belt to HBK, but I don't think he wanted to drop the belt to anybody. I find it hard to believe that Vince didn't come to him with an alternative match for Survivor Series.

[@mj-7444]

@@DR.64A9 He’s an asshole. Shawn Submit too his finisher at the survivor series and then had too steal the return favor.Brett is an idiot.

[@mj-7444]

Sharpshooter, Intercontinental vs Heavyweight. Bret wins clean.

[@bloodalpha1170]

Bret Hart has gone on record saying he didn't want to drop the title in Montreal he wanted to walk out on raw the next night and hand the title

[@quicoboy]

...cant wait till they fire Bruce again so we can do the podcast more often...love both of you guys...

[@karlgildea6153]

Bret hart is the greatest of all time facts made every other wrestlers look like gold

[@fabulousat40beauty]

Dont say that to brian James haha😂

[@dezhayward]

Awesome hearing both sides. I remember watching it live and was so shocked and confused, I recorded it on vhs, me and a friend watched it over and over again at 4am here in the uk trying to make sense of it. I still think it might be a work, no matter how many times Bruce says it isnt.

[@deepzepp4176]

That’s great. I love stories like that.

[@michaelrubin9547]

You're an imbecile it's not an angle

[@miamimagicians]

"What makes you think we were going to do what we did with medusa throwing the title in the garbage can with Brett". Answer, "because you've done it before you'll do it again". Holy shit that was deep

[@JeremyNoblitt]

I'd listen to 3 hours of burying Meltzer from both of you.

[@williammitchell4417]

Corny and Brian butchered him already and JR put BBQ sauce on it

[@m8datmoney837]

Facts can you imagine a podcast with Eric, Bruce and Jim

[@williammitchell4417]

@@m8datmoney837 In a way it's like a Table for Three

[@williammcmillan-johnstone3962]

Eric Jim and Bruce money podcast lol most viewed ever Jim wouldn't do it

[@freemind6954]

Who? What's his name?

[@craigugulini3409]

I love how they all hate meltzer….who is probably the biggest mark in the history of the wrestling business

[@p-can5487]

Tony khan is the biggest mark

[@SomethingToWrestle]

Be sure to give us five stars Craig ;)

[@craigugulini3409]

@@SomethingToWrestle only if the pod was done in the Tokyo dome

[@joe_zeay]

This is great! Want more behind the scenes of the screwing in montreal. For the newer generation that didn't see it nor hear of it until recently it's all new to that generation. Those born 2000 and later werent alive to see it or the fallout at the time

[@JoeyMartz]

Millennial's RANGE from (birth year )1981 to 1996.... We were very much alive to see it and the fallout, guy. :-)

[@SuperTicklemonsters]

Yeah I was gonna say I'm a millenial and I started watching wrestling in 90 lol

[@ACOB]

Nobody said millennial.

[@JoeyMartz]

@@ACOB - I responded to a post referencing millennials. I don't recall it over two months later... but in the current context, you are right.

[@mattjoseph896]

As someone who suffered the same injury as bret but in mma. I was beyond bitter and angry for years. I was put in a coma, with a stroke and a skull fracture. Some days are better than others but to know there are things in life ill never be able to do again. I spent a couple of years stewing and pissed off

[@Frankenberry]

Hey Bruce, Eric, Conrad... I heard you ask at the beginning of the program why the screwjob was still so talked about. I'd like to tell you from a young (at the time) fan's perspective why I think it's talked about so much still today. In my opinion, The Montreal Screwjob is still such a popular topic because it was basically the hook on which so much of the golden era of wrestling hangs. Think about what all happened BECAUSE of the Montreal Screwjob. The Monday Night wars hung on that hook... The Attitude Era's beginning hung on that hook.. The Greatest WWF villian of all time was born in the screwjob... Mr. McMahon... The Birth of that Character led to one of the biggest rivalries in wrestling history... Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Mr. Mcmahon... And the ripples from the Montreal screwjob just go on and on and on from there... It was the MAJOR event that set SO much wrestling history in motion, and lets face it... The Attitude Era was the absolute pinnacle in all of professional wrestling... So, ofcourse.. the event that set so much in motion is a big deal... That's why we still talk about it.

[@jeremybragg6576]

But we gotta tell our own lies, (while at the same time corroborating what's his name)

[@tokesalotta1521]

Sean ruined the whole screwjob by acting confused. I get he was afraid Brett would beat him up in front of everybody, but he could've celebrated and acted like he thought Brett submitted and said "thank you" or something. However because he stood there acting confused everyone watching was thinking and asking "what happened?"

[@MaximusX67]

Because Vince told him to swear to everything holy he didn't know about the screw job. McMahon told Shawn, Triple H, anyone/everyone that was in on it to deny it and put all the blame on Vince for the whole thing. Shawn wouldn't admit to knowing about it until many years later. So he couldn't celebrate or thank Bret, etc. He was to act as if he didn't get it either, grab the belt, and get to the dressing room. Earl Hebner ran out of the ring and jumped into a running car his brother had waiting outside the building!!

[@Rick-si1re]

It wasn't about losing the title, Bret didn't have a problem with that, his problem was two fold, A) He didn't want to lose it to Shawn specifically and B) He didn't want to lose in Canada, Bret claims that Michaels told him to his face that he wouldn't put him over, so that's a big part of it.

[@evilsWa]

Cool the why did he refused to drop the belt to Stone cold before the pay-per-view? And by the way would it be reasonable for Hulk Hogan to say that he didn't want to lose in America? You don't understand how idiotic that sounds? You're acting like Canada is a small little island and not as big as the entire United States. Losing in Montreal went to losing in New York when he was born in Texas

[@cjvaye99]

I like Eric but him saying he doesn't understand Bret not wanting to drop the belt is hilarious since he worked with Hulk Hogan for like 6 years. I'm sure there were plenty of times Hulk refused to drop the belt.

[@TL2354]

Hulk was still the biggest draw in wrestling then. Bret wasn’t. Hulk also wasn’t crying about Shawn saying he wasn’t let anyone go over on him anymore. Also, if someone did what Bret was doing to Stu do you think Bret would’ve sided with the wrestler? Never

[@Michiganfan105]

@@TL2354 You fail to mention that Bret had reasonable creative control at that time. It was in his contract, so he literally didn't have to drop it to Shawn if he didn't want to. Obviously he would have to drop it to somebody, because not dropping it on the way out wouldn't be "reasonable," but Bret would have literally dropped the belt to anyone else but Shawn, because Shawn was a giant prick who nobody could stand, and had heat with everyone else in the locker room outside of his little clique.

[@mugabi9502]

@@Michiganfan105 exactly right. Bret was going to drop the belt the next night on raw so there was no need for the screwjob.

[@kevinlee9929]

Many people have heard "That doesn't work for me, brother".

[@acidmack1041]

​​@@TL2354 Bret never said he wasn't going to let anybody go over on him anymore. He pitched to lose the title to Shamrock, Taker or Austin...just not Shawn until Shawn proved he would put him over first after Shawn had "lost his smile" so that he could hand the title back rather than lose it to Bret at Wrestlemania 13 and also because when Bret told Shawn he was happy to put him over and Shawn would be safe with Bret, Shawn told him he wouldn't do the same for Bret...and numerous wrestlers like Jericho, Austin & Taker have said they would have had the same attitude Bret had if a wrestler had said the same thing Shawn said to Bret

[@OneUltimateWarrior]

Wish Bruce would get on camera again.

[@bigc2626]

I listen sometimes. What’s Bruce’s reason for not being on camera? Is it like a WWE rule that he can’t be?

[@davidkinnear2270]

Loved this podcast between bruce n eric need to do more like these on the monday night wars, mayb a discussion of scott hall n diesel jumping ship in 1996 n the birth of the nwo

[@juniorthomastuilagi4289]

Could listen to these two talk all day.

[@davidlawrence7681]

Of course no one was more notorious for refusing to drop a belt in the ring than Shawn Michaels. McMahon violated Hart’s signed contract twice. Michaels went out of his way to stir the pot. Nobody is 100% right here but Hart is the least wrong.

[@JuanJohn-Raytheon]

The most notorious wrestler to ever not drop the title is Bret Hart. They literally had to double cross the man to get their belt back from him. They never had to do that for Shawn Michaels.

[@TheScarletSpidey]

More of Eric and Bruce together, please and thank you.

[@MDeezy42069]

One of the best episodes of all the podcasts. We need more Eric and Bruce. Also a JR + Foley crossover would be awesome

[@txmetalhead82xk]

I look forward to this. I have so much respect for Sean and Bret. These guys are awesome, too.

[@OriginalFatCat]

This was awesome perspective. Bischoff as a host adds a different perspective in the questioning.

[@thewondertaker1348]

47:49 I think Bret felt he could do that because Shawn faked a knee injury and lost his smile and Vince let him go out on tv and hand over the title, cry, get sympathy, and leave.

[@thewondertaker1348]

Also, because of Shawn already having a title win at mania in 96. Also, because Shawn had just dissed Bret by saying he'd never put him over. Also because now they want to have Bret put Shawn over in Canada of all places. Also, because it weakens his WWF comeback, which he obviously planned on in 3 year's from then. Bret wanted to come back in 3 year's on top. It was business. Bret's business.

[@thewondertaker1348]

And Sunny days fight in locker room. Bret really felt he deserved to not have to lose to Shawn on a ppv in Canada.

[@JuanJohn-Raytheon]

@@thewondertaker1348 Bret didn't decide who got the belt. Vince did. Bret started burying Michaels first,in the Toronto Sun calling him gay. Bret made the problems and then put everyone is into a difficult position and spent 25 years crying about it.

[@RobJNathanSings]

“They fooked ‘im” absolutely classic.

[@DeeVeeOus]

Best work in wrestling history. 25 years and still people are profiting off it.

[@Ricardo-go7yu]

Honestly, "reasonable creative control/input" to me would let the screw job be ok. Because no wrestler ever left an area without dropping the title. You can argue that under the circumstances, what WWE did WAS reasonable given the competitive situation with WCW.

[@matthewbabakhanoff6724]

Plain in simple, Bret did not wanna lose to Shawn period. Especially in Montreal. Bret was willing to drop the belt to Austin , Mankind, or taker. Bret was ok to drop to anymore but Shawn. Bret took it personel that year in June, when Bret told Shawn he would have no problem putting him over. Shawn replies I've would have not done the same. That's it. Bret took it personal. Why would I put a wrestler over? That wouldn't do the same. Both Bret and Shawn have gone on record. So has Mick Foley and Jim Ross. To clarify the conversation backstage that summer of 96.

[@joedavidson6556]

Funny part is Brett ended up putting Shawn over one way or another anyways. It was great.

[@TL2354]

Plain and simple

[@williammitchell4417]

In Bret's case, it would be Bill George anyone from Shaun

[@joedavidson6556]

Lol too bad for Brett it was Shawn 😆😆

[@acidmack1041]

​@@joedavidson6556 Bret did not put Shawn over at all...I don't believe that anybody in their right mind would look at Survivor Series 1997 and say that that's the PPV that Bret put Shawn over for the title....unless they are weird 😂

[@liontone]

Love this. Wish Eric’s audio was a little better.

[@reallyretro]

Please for the love of good pick another topic! This has been beat into the damn ground since '97.

[@williammitchell4417]

True... Bruce and Conrad, Corny and Brian, JR and Conrad, Road Dogg and Casio, this was covered as much as 9/11

[@mikedeck8381]

What happened to Bret that he got screwed over? He had to give up the belt like he promised and he got a multimillion dollar deal from WCW. I wish I could get screwed over like this.

[@freakinflax]

As someone who became a wrestling fan in 1998 right after this happened, never experienced it live and can only go on the reports and testimony like these - Vince Screwed Bret. He allowed HBK to forfeit a title in Lowell, MA earlier that year because he lost his smile but he couldn’t do the same the next night on Raw? I also fully admit that this ushered the era of the villainous McMahon character and the rest was history

[@Lord_Bibulous]

Vince's "rationale" is that he didn't want Bret showing up on WCW television while still being the recognized WWF Champion. But even that was something Vince could've dealt with waaaay before that day. Plus as you said letting Shawn get away with almost everything didn't help matters.

[@douglasmurphy3266]

How in the holy hell is Bruce Prichard's podcast going to have "indeed" as a sponsor and there is no Evil Kaientai Bruce spot?

[@SomethingToWrestle]

That's a fair assessment, Douglas

[@shadycnetwork]

They could call a show with both of them, a Monday night war to wrestle with Bruce prichard and Eric bischoff.

[@Redeyezsmokeshow]

Conman ain't letting that money train leave without him lmao

[@earlpaige9746]

A private company does what it wants ,Ted was corporate at the time,vince wasn't til he won the war..

[@trevormurraymusic4975]

I think the biggest enemy in this situation was timing. If Bret had been able to stay until Wrestlemania 14 he could have dropped the belt to Austin. That would mean Austin would've beat the top heel for the belt and got revenge for his loss to Bret at WM 13. Plus it would have allowed the Sting/Hogan rivalry to finish up in WCW clean without the cloud of Bret coming into WCW and despite being red hot, put on the undercard. Sting could have had his run and Bret could come in and go straight after Hogan.

[@jefriefultonii3666]

I agree with this

[@blueblur2329]

It's not as simple as that at all

[@estn-nv5xn]

Nah it was Shawn telling bret I wouldn't do it for you. That made bret not want to lose it. That's why his attitude changed

[@adam96blackss]

This was a great podcast, very great to listen to unexpected the hero podcast between Bruce and Eric which made it all that much more exciting. Hopefully you guys can do it again

[@p-can5487]

99% of the guys take the wcw offer. It was Vince didn’t want to pay hbk millions or have him leave. Not let Bret get paid more bs

[@PCat2385]

Am I the only one creeped out by the Prichard photo? Love Bruce but that photo 😂

[@jamescoker2773]

The Monday Night Wars were the most interesting time for me as a fan.

[@douglasjarnagan3835]

Let's not forget the stories of HBK telling Vince that he was unhappy in early '97 and asked for his release.. I'm absolutely convinced that Vince promised HBK that he would get the belt at Survivor Series, and was concerned about his reaction if that plan was altered. Bret didn't want to lose at Survivor Series, HBK was already promised the win, and both hated each other. But Bret was leaving so we get the screwjob.

[@bryanmack4054]

I have to agree with Cornettes take…I like Bret, but I don’t really feel sorry for him in this particular case….he’s leaving from a job making $1.5 million to WCW where he’d be making twice as much and he’s concerned about losing a scripted wrestling match? I know people can have principles but that’s just ridiculous…at least we got the mr mcmahon character out of it

[@dexenationgracey1979]

​@@bryanmack4054 Even Jim Cornette thinks Bret takes wrestling too seriously.

[@TruckerJenkins82]

Still a fascinating subject, never tire of hearing accounts from that entire period. The bit between Bruce and Taker, I'd never heard that before. Great stuff, guys, thanks to you both.

[@joeyzapata6786]

And yet, after all these years, I still get the feeling that someone is holding out an important part of what really happened.

[@TruckerJenkins82]

@@joeyzapata6786 I'm still open to the idea that it was a work or at the very least, as you say, an incomplete story.

[@joeyzapata6786]

@@TruckerJenkins82 From what Bret has stated, the initial feud between he and Shawn started as a work but soon spiraled out of control.

[@TruckerJenkins82]

@@joeyzapata6786 which casts a major doubt on the "work" theory in Montreal. The heat between those two was off the page by the end. Either that's as real as it got in pro wrestling or those two are Oscar worthy actors.an, it was so intense...and that's before you get into all the backstage shenanigans.

[@deepblue8143]

@@joeyzapata6786 like what?

[@nbaldwin45]

I came here for the Manscaped commercial

[@Warlow1980]

The WWF shit on Bret Hart. He was the best wrestler from bell to bell without question. Who else had been there that long clawing through the ranks? From Survivor Series 95 to Survivor Series 97 he had great match after match and each one was completely different. His promos in 1997 were the best he ever did so I just don't see why WWF were so eager to get rid of him. Why would you just betray a guy who loved your company? Everyone knows that Bret was supposed to get that WrestleMania 12 return win over Shawn Michaels. He did make someone before he left and his name was Steve Austin.

[@michelledavidson8190]

Very interesting discussion about the screw job, I learn something about this from different points of view.

[@BKKri77er]

Never mentioned it again?!? Survivor Series '98, Benoit v Austin, HBK a number of times, Jason Sensation and HBK the week after the DX "Nation of Impersonation" promo, hell even Owen showing up and attacking HBK at In Your House in December was "mentioning it". Man, Bruce is good at revisionist history... Great interview however, just thought this line was pretty bad...

[@BigBlack81]

Bruce and Eric: 83 Weeks. Let's make it happen, folks.

[@keithzatkalik5805]

The wwf had no problem having Ric Flair showing up on their TV with the NWA title belt

[@frankyturrizo4240]

I miss the days pre ad-casts

[@mister.caroll]

Like I have heard it said hard to believe that Bret couldn't see it happening a mile away.

[@danielescalera6638]

The dynamic duo here Bruce and unlce Eric

[@TheBaitShopGuy]

Damm this Montreal thing never seems to end. Bret never really won the belt or lost a belt what an a hole for making a drama of a belt owned by Titan Sports which McMahon owned

[@waboom248]

This episode was awesome.

[@concerta56]

Did you notice Brother luv aka The Office Stooge and Easy-E aka Hogan Stooge didn't mention Hunter except for one part about who knew and who was in on it?

[@bobmarshall8527]

Doesn’t wanna piss off his new boss 😂

[@DAR0BA]

That pic of Bruce is crazy

[@Sealdog8321]

The Bruce image is to creepy for me to get thru with screen of tablet in view reminds me of that tom banks Xmas movie

[@jeremycr8ivesoul543]

Imagine if Eric ceased the opportunity to let DX enter the arena when they invaded Nitro during Bret's Mic Promo that Night!!

[@iGotEm]

I wish I could find the Audio where Brisco says the screwjob was just a way to make Bret more money, and that everyone keeps it alive because it’s the “last bit of kayfabe the industry has left”

[@axel4clover1]

Does anyone know the reason Vince didn’t think he could fulfill Bret’s contract all of a sudden? They had the money for Tyson, and on top of that Brian Pullman died only a month prior, Bret didn’t want to go to wcw his hand was forced and then screwed on the way out. That always boggled me, Bret was at his leak at this time,

[@SomethingToWrestle]

Bret was offered big time money from WCW. Tyson was there for a smaller stint and grew up a fan of WWF. That would be my best guess!

[@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207]

I think it was something like Vince wanted to bring down the long term liabilities of the company.

[@blueblur2329]

It wasn't all of a sudden. It's not like he told Bret that he couldn't afford his contract and then the next day paid Tyson to come in to his company. All this took place between months of each other and a lot can change after a few months.

[@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207]

@@blueblur2329 I know. Just as he could've taken the belt off Bret at any point prior to getting into this ridiculous situation...

[@blueblur2329]

@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 🤨 You know what? I was responding to the original comment not yours. In any case, why would Vince have to take the belt off of Bret when Bret initially agreed to lose to Shawn? It wasn't until the last minute that Bret changed his mind because of what Shawn said to him.

[@jeremybragg6576]

"The way I was brought up in the business"😂

[@twankistevenson3884]

Bret always has been and always will be my #1 (going back to his original short 1989 solo run). Despite that, if Vince says you're dropping the belt... you DROP the belt!. End of story. It doesn't matter how big an a**hole Shawn was at the time. Bret should be remembered soley for his career, instead, a big part if his legacy IS the screwjob. For Bret to have refused and begun to politic when he has always been critical of others who did, no matter the cause, did his career more harm than some of the worst political players there have ever been

[@DarkDestroyer98]

This was fascinating. I go back to Corny's kayfabe commentary timeline comments....why in the fuck would you not take the belt off of him PRIOR to Survivor Series. He's leaving. He's in talks. He gets the belt...Shawn says his stupid comments about not putting him over when Bret is trying to give him an olive branch. You could have continued with the whole screwed angle...but have Undertaker as champion. Bret and Shawn just as a regular match. I know in reality this was due to already promoting Survivor Series in Montreal with Bret as Champion, but instead you could have promoted it as a loser leaves grudge match. I also get that the reasonable creative control clause comes into play here but if Bret isn't champion going into Survivor Series...that's a moot point surely?

[@jmendoza2003]

If Bret Hart had never left WWE and if Vince would be able to afford to keep Bret would Bret still had won? I always wonder what the outcome could have been if the Montreal screwjob never happened. I had heard that were plans for Bret to drop the tile until WrestleMania 14 to Austin. Or Bret Hart and Michaels rivalry continue at Degeneration X PPV. Lots of what if questions if Bret Hart stayed.

[@ryanevans126]

Really good show a Monday night war podcast would be awesome

[@Gary-su8sb]

What's up with Bruce's video?

[@KylePrime_1986]

I wish Bret had been able to show up on Nitro the very next night. That would have been massive

[@nojozol1816]

Bruce doesn’t have a webcam ?

[@KylePrime_1986]

Ive always felt deep down it wasn't about the money. Vince turned around and dropped massive $ on Tyson. I always thought the reality was after Bret and Shawn got into that squabble where Bret ripped Shawns hair out, Vince either realized he had to choose one guy or the other (not sure if Shawn may have told him he had to choose or he came to that on his own). Bret was doing some of his best work of his career and the $ excuse is BS or they wouldn't have been able to get Tyson so why get rid of Bret if not having to choose one or the other.

[@jeremybragg6576]

Also, Vince McMahon sued WCW because the Diamond Stud was quoting Scarface.

[@ralphbonness8777]

Why isn't Bruce on camera with Eric?

[@SjC420]

The best solution for Montreal was a triple threat with Bret vs HBK vs Undertaker. Taker gets added because Kane screwed him out of the hell in a Cell match which was a number 1 contender match. Taker pins HBK & wins the title. Bret comes out on Raw & says it's bullshit he lost the title without being beat & quits. Then HBK beats Taker at the Royal Rumble due to Kane's interference that way we still get Austin Vs HBK & Kane vs Undertaker at WrestleMania 14.

[@mickD87]

How many shows can we get out of this topic? I love Bret and I always feel he needs to move on more then he has. Then I see another God damn podcast about it by someone else and it's like holy crap. Let it go guys. Run everything into the ground.

[@williammitchell4417]

Where did they find Bruce's old photo from Houston??

[@crushthecrusher7134]

That is crazy Montreal screwjob what happened at survivor series on November 9, 1997

[@PogLife2171]

Everyone crying about it being Montreal again, do like your parents should have done and change the damn channel. Crying about it is what killed this era to begin with.

[@LoricElf]

Eric starts off calling Conrad a beached whale. Classic.

[@jamescooper3324]

Bischoff has seen one night in chyna confirmed

[@kellyremple1041]

I cannot for the life of me understand why two things are SOOO difficult for people, even biased opinions like Bruce & Eric to understand. 1. Bret told Shawn he would be happy to put him over, Shawn responds by saying, "I appreciate that. but I would NEVER do the same for you..." For anyone to not understand WHY Bret would be extremely pissed by that is mind bending. Even for an idiot like Eric. 2. Vince gave Bret a "Reasonable Creative Control" clause in his contract in his last 30 days. Period. End of Story. Bruce's nonsense about "Bret didn't get to make that call - Vince does" doesn't work under this scenario. Vince forfeited that right when he gave Bret that clause in their deal. Final point. Bret gets criticized for talking about Montreal. But whats he supposed to do? People are STILL talking about this years later.

[@codyglover9317]

I thought Eric was going for a beached whale joke about Conrad at first...

[@williammitchell4417]

Or Eric would make him like Heyman

[@andrewgilmore1443]

I’m half way through. I like both guys, but how is there not any discussion about Eric’s plans for Bret. Everyone has analyzed Montreal to death. It would be so much more interesting if Bruce pressed Bischoff about his lack of plans!! That is the real crime of Montreal. Vince beat Bret twice. Once in the ring and then he took over as the #1 heel attraction in the business. Bret went to WCW where they gave him zero. He should have immediately funded with the NWO and beat member after member until a major build to Hogan.

[@armandogomez2677]

This should’ve been a special named “well you know… 83 weeks”

[@fishhookism]

Two guys that hate Bret Hart talking about Montreal.

[@mentalhealthawarenesswithg8178]

When did Bret EVER say he wanted to leave WWF ?

[@McMahonHater]

Bruce just can't get his nose out of Vince's ass.

[@1burnman]

Brett should have dropped the title but the way Vince did it was underhanded

[@duaneshank6788]

They let Shawn hand over the title when he lost his smile. They should've let Bret do the same thing.

[@p-can5487]

Nobody saying Bret’s last day was in dec. not after ppv nov 9.

[@Lord_Bibulous]

There's some dispute about that. I've even heard Bret say that he had actually fulfilled his contractual obligations before the Survivor Series. That if he wanted to he could've just not shown up. Not sure of that's true.

[@troystaunton254]

The problem was that the contract was done on the Thursday or Friday, and wcw was going on tv for the 1st time post signing the day after survivor series. Which if bret has the belt bischoff goes on tv and announces that wcw has signed the current wwf champion. Where as if bret loses then it’s “former wwf champion.” Not a big deal now but back in that early-mid 90s the champion was pretty much everything.

[@catchcan221]

@@Lord_Bibulous it’s true, he worked 270 days before Montreal.

[@CT9905.]

If something is predetermined, how are you getting Screwed?!

[@TheBaitShopGuy]

Bisch paid Bret like 3 mil a year to come to WCW in the first place was a dumb idea

[@undertakerfanz628]

Now they have Eric quoteing Dave

[@boombringer4078]

Everyone hates meltzer, I bet that would be a better sitcom than everyone hates Chris!!

[@Tburt-mx5kg]

how anyone can possibly believe this isnt a work is crazy to me. use some logic please. these guys are characters, actors and showman. they make tv shows for you multiple times a week. bret happens to be leaving the company on the day they are doing a show in his home country. They also just so happen to have a full film crew all around everyone because they are filming a coincidental documentary at the same time. bret just so happens to have access to wearing a wire for a meeting with vince, so every major part of this is fully documented in the best possible way. the wwf, at the time, was still trying to recover from the post hulk hogan era and was losing popularity rapidly. this is so obvious, its frustrating lmao. but i shouldnt be surprised at how ignorant the general public is, they believe everything they are told....everything.

[@KizzMyAbs]

I fell asleep listening to this and dreamt I was with Vince and Brett in Brett’s country house in the farm. So weird 😂