The MOSAIC Martial Arts Assassin ISN'T Broken !!! Diablo 2 Resurrected

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Dbrunski125

Dbrunski125

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@SyntheticNight
@SyntheticNight Жыл бұрын
also protip for chaos runs: use mind blast on last seal mob, kill the boss, dia is spawning. While it takes some time the monster under the effect of mind blast survives, you can kill it with a kick to maintain your charges after the effects worn off. Then you have enough time to get to dia and hit him with full force :D
@KhanhPham-ev7kc
@KhanhPham-ev7kc Жыл бұрын
or tp home, go to wp2 act5, kick the unique boss their, go back and kill Diablo.
@SyntheticNight
@SyntheticNight Жыл бұрын
@@KhanhPham-ev7kc depends on your loading time. while also doable you dont need to go twice through a portal, use 2 wps and change acts. my pc is not the best anymore, using mind blast works better for me
@OLONOODLE
@OLONOODLE Жыл бұрын
I just tele to the river, kick something, come back. enigma makes this build insane.
@SyntheticNight
@SyntheticNight Жыл бұрын
@@OLONOODLE best found rune was Lo so far.....so no enigma :D still having a lot of fun with fortitude
@kingbirdIII
@kingbirdIII Жыл бұрын
Nah. Lose your stacks to get the meteor and nuke Diablo with just that
@grasgruen84
@grasgruen84 Жыл бұрын
i am not to much into d2r anymore, but played the mosaic this season. it just feels that you only need those 2 claws and some points into fade to be unkillable and not use any potions anymore, if you leave out the fists of fire you have so much leech. you dont need anni torch or skillers or enigma or anything to have decent 1 button chaos clears. it just felt really relaxing to not have to use potions like crazy.
@lullylew9083
@lullylew9083 5 ай бұрын
It could do with a little bit of balancing sure however, how is it any different to a Lightning Java? Mana steal, Life steal one click screen clear that wrecks bosses and looks flashy af while doing it which is also built at a similar expense.
@SonyEricson850
@SonyEricson850 Жыл бұрын
Something I feel you missed about the Diablo 3 comparison isn't that the build is dependent on the Runeword, but that Mosiac and metamorphosis completely change how the skill functions which is a pretty notable departure from LOD. The only thing I can think of that's close to that in LOD is Delirium. Even Full Trang's or Chaos don't change the way an ability functions. That being said, I really enjoy playing my Mosiac Assassin. I'm currently doing a Tiger Strike + Cobra Strike + Death Sentry build that isn't as strong as Phoenix Strike, but also doesn't destroy my eyes and framerate.
@tbone8358
@tbone8358 Жыл бұрын
I disagree completely. Legendaries with affixes replaced runewords. There’s no loss of powerful items in D3 vs D2.
@sherizaahd
@sherizaahd Жыл бұрын
I agree. I think the main drawback is the GFX issues with the tanked frames. Without Mosaic, or mechanics like it, the MA sin just doesn't see much play, from what I've heard, so it's making a different build have playtime, so that's awesome.
@LuckyLuciano6
@LuckyLuciano6 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying it!
@sneakysneakthief2051
@sneakysneakthief2051 Жыл бұрын
I think my main complaint after playing Mosaisin is that once you have the charges the interest of the build plummets. At that point the character just runs around holding down the finishing move and watching things explode. As someone who played MASin through season 2 I feel like they left the clunky part of the build in charging up initially, but took away the fun part of keeping stores balanced and switching depending on the enemy types, if I'm in a cold immune area keeping PS1/2 running, if I'm looking for more crowd control using PS3. Now I just do all damage all the time and it's taken a very technical build and made it much simpler. Also a lot of the times I'd use PS3 to freeze whatever I could, then the other charges would kill any cold immunes that wouldn't shatter, providing corpses for my death sentries to kill other stuff. There's a few points where synergy between the skill mechanics is gone, or just isn't really relevant anymore. I think the problem of locking the charge maintenance to the items isn't so much a point of "Need these items to define the build", but more it feels like other options lose a lot of value compared to running dual mosaics. In my testing there's shortterm fights where using plague or some other option has merit, but for the most part if you're mfing in an area or farming tzs dual mosaics wins out because of the constant uptime of charges. I kind of would be more interested if running such high damage made the character more of a glass cannon and there's more of a question of "Do I high damage or do I survivability?" but the Assassin is quite a tanky character between things like claw block, fade, cloak of shadows and mind blast, then the innate cold freezes from charges so the loss of things like stormshield is a bit of a non-issue even in hardcore the only thing that really scares me now is accidently dragon flighting into a pack of dolls in the throne room and having them all explode around me.
@sneakysneakthief2051
@sneakysneakthief2051 Жыл бұрын
Also I contest the argument of this build being "cheap" compared to a hammerdin, if hammerdins "need" enigma to be completely unlocked, then the sin does as well since if she gets caught running long stretches of no enemies she loses her charges
@brandorando6377
@brandorando6377 Жыл бұрын
As for the eye candy overdose I'd like to see a new setting in either the graphics or gameplay tab that enables or lets you slide a bar that makes skill effects (including summons) more transparent for yourself and/or just other party member's skills. I believe that's a win/win for those who'd like to keep their eyesight and those who don't
@MapHKid
@MapHKid Жыл бұрын
A suggestion I found interesting was shifting away from dual Mosaic "100% not consume charge" into skills like Claw Mastery in such a way that you can achieve the build with end game gear and 1x Mosaic. This does two things: - Allows for a smoother build-up phase towards the first Mosaic, with charges progressively being consumed less and less and/or lasting longer - Allows for a second different claw, or shield, to be used After watching you analysis, it seems you're right that in terms of clear speed it compares to other S/A tiers and mostly needing tweaks to the graphics overload.
@Doost311
@Doost311 Жыл бұрын
Thats a cool idea for claw mastery change!
@iiMAGINExThis
@iiMAGINExThis Жыл бұрын
So true! I would love to use both Mosiac and Plague.
@brainwasher9876
@brainwasher9876 6 ай бұрын
It one shots entire screens of mobs, 2-4 shots any boss other than ubers, has class-native teleport, kills regardless of resistances, insta-refills both mana and health whenever you attack, can have max resistances with barely any gear, runs and attacks faster than any other class barring sorc, and is made with rune words that cost 1/100th of an infinity. But yeah, aside from that it's not that OP
@Larkstongue1
@Larkstongue1 Жыл бұрын
It's basically the only character that can kill ubers WITHOUT gearing for it. Yes. The smiter does it very early but he is also still geared around doing it. The mosaic assassin really doesn't need to do shit to consider farming ubers. She just does it, while still being ready to go run whatever else she wants at P8 difficulty.
@danielhenderson762
@danielhenderson762 Жыл бұрын
You're not making any sense. Both builds needs certain items to be able to kill ubers
@tobiasholmberg2834
@tobiasholmberg2834 Жыл бұрын
@@danielhenderson762 I think what he is trying to say is: "Mosaic is dirt cheap and you only need that. With a smiter you need a lot more than just two, easy to get, items.
@marcorossi8345
@marcorossi8345 5 ай бұрын
yes try to kill uber meph with you base 1200hp and 2 mosaic. u will see how easy it is
@marcorossi8345
@marcorossi8345 5 ай бұрын
​@@tobiasholmberg2834no he is saying literally that mosaic assasin can uber withouth item but mosaic, he underlined that even smiter needs to gear up something
@Intregus
@Intregus Жыл бұрын
I like your take. There can also be a mix of a D3 itemization to unlock or make a specific build viable without ruining where D2's meta currently is. For example, Frozen orb just needs a little bit more of something to compete with blizzard sorc....why not have a runeword or god forbid updating a unique item to specifically buff that 1 skill to make that build more viable?
@Patatmetmayo
@Patatmetmayo Жыл бұрын
This is the definition of power creep, the game becomes too easy if we keep buffing every other build up to S tier. I'd say the game already has become too easy with the addition of sunder charms. I would like them to increase the difficulty of the game, at least for terror zones since they are very easy now.
@jasonbonadio8870
@jasonbonadio8870 Жыл бұрын
They kind of did that with metamorphoses giving a plus 5 to shape-shifting crushing blow increase the attack speed and other effects. So it's definitely achievable for other skills and classes.
@jasonbonadio8870
@jasonbonadio8870 Жыл бұрын
@@Patatmetmayo another He'll difficulty, like Hell 2 would be amazingly fun to try.
@Stompy1984
@Stompy1984 8 ай бұрын
@@jasonbonadio8870Normal -> Nightmare -> Hell -> Pandemonium... something like that. You could up unit levels (level 100+ units or something) but once you have the best gear that should still not make that much difference. Apart from the usual resistances and immunitie(s) on units, you could also add that every single unit in the game has an added random power (like Lightning Enchanted/Aura Enchanted/Stone Skin etc). This with a higher monster density could make for a nice extra difficulty in D2.
@bobnewkirk7003
@bobnewkirk7003 Жыл бұрын
Mosaic Sin falls into the same camp as the Bliz sorc: the barrier to entry is too low for the output. You can run a trapper through to Hell A1 and spam farm countess for 4ist, cube up to 2x gul and you are dealing endgame damage. There is no reason why a player with a plan couldn't have a dual Mosaic by day 1 ladder, where anyone who needs Infinity or Enigma is going to have to wait for at least a couple days.
@contris1
@contris1 Жыл бұрын
not to mention mossaic Sin melts everything in the game from ubers to p8 packs
@Roland597
@Roland597 Жыл бұрын
Why people think its OP is that getting infinity is the largest hurdle for 99% of the playerbase. The issue is that this game has immunities, and basically every other class requires a way to break it. The mosaic assassin does not. That is huge. So instead of needing 2x Ber runes to ignore immunities, you need 2x gul / mal runes. Its WAY cheaper. Also considering the assassin has one of the smoothest leveling experiences through traps to 53, and then you can swap over, its pretty easy. You can farm NM cows for most of the equpiment, and with a bit of help online you can get to hell cows for the Gul / Mal combo. Last thing is that once you get a hustle, you can swap over to Fade, which is another silly powerful ability solving resistances trivially. Not that you need them, because with simple build optimization the build is leeching nearly 500hp / second even on hell. I don't think its OP. It doesn't need a nerf. Its just easier to get to a similar power level of a nova sorc, but with WAY less upfront cost.
@TheInfinityMaster1
@TheInfinityMaster1 Жыл бұрын
I think it looks awesome (even the crazy animations it is producing) and I REALLY want to try it (looks insanely fun to play), but I'm legitimately afraid that the developers will eventually *nerf* this build so much that it won't be as fun/appealing to me as it is at the moment, so rather than dealing with that frustration during my playthrough of this character, I'm gonna wait and see the FINAL developer balancing of this build before I decide to whether invest time in it or not.
@ArchDaemon41
@ArchDaemon41 Жыл бұрын
for the price of two mals and two guls you should really try it before they nerf its quite fun
@simony9611
@simony9611 Жыл бұрын
Tried playing it. It gives me a headache after 30 minutes… I never get headaches from games either lol. It’s way too bright.
@SoyDrinker
@SoyDrinker Жыл бұрын
You aren't really investing anything into the build by making it. What items are you going to really go for. It's all super standard items that half a dozen different builds would use, other than the weapons themselves but they are cheap as shit.
@nicolaorsi4862
@nicolaorsi4862 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is so awesome! Melee builds definitely needed some help!
@Tunichtgut789
@Tunichtgut789 Жыл бұрын
I had a perfect geared fire sorc before I started testing mosaic assassin. Even with decent gear, she felt tiering to me. building up charges, keeping charges all the time. Clicking on enemies directly. Slow teleport as soon as you can't use dragon talon. And i don't know why people say she doesn't even need potions. Most lategame builds do not need any potions, but my mosaic assassin did regularly.
@Phrex89
@Phrex89 Жыл бұрын
I think what makes it relatively op is that you need much cheaper gear to be able to run basically all areas of the game without the need of any special class for Ubers,clone etc.
@ericneuman9130
@ericneuman9130 Жыл бұрын
I thought the main gripe is that the assassin’s power is locked behind lesser runes to obtain for Mosaic vs. what it takes for Enigma, Infinity, etc?
@UnderworldGrim
@UnderworldGrim Жыл бұрын
Yeah but you can say the same for a blizz sorc, cold mastery, and a sunder. It is less for sure but not “blizz sorc less” lol.
@Dbrunski125
@Dbrunski125 Жыл бұрын
04:15
@CramusLair
@CramusLair Жыл бұрын
Hammerdin power is locked behind leveling up skills, i finished the game naked with the build once just to prove it. Enigma is also what makes the mosaic build become fast, dragon flight is clunky and if you cant see the enemy over a wall, you cant tele. Also, without good level and equipment, only with mosaic you are a glass cannon, on p1, its even dangerous to get charges with it at its starting level.
@VileVamp
@VileVamp Жыл бұрын
That's a stupid complaint though when you consider how sorcs don't need anything to be good out of the gate.
@contris1
@contris1 Жыл бұрын
@@Dbrunski125 the main gripe is that mossaic sin is S rank for p8 monsters pack AS WELL as for ubers. Javazon cant clear ubers safely and fast. Mossaic sin is the best build atm for PvM. cheap, safe, best = OP
@dwinterx
@dwinterx Жыл бұрын
Like the new setup to start. Agree about this build. I've been running it on ladder only in the last couple of days. Great fun unleashing the charges, but can be tricky to play and build them up.
@CamSally27
@CamSally27 Жыл бұрын
Looks like sub-optimal gear setup but I agree that it is not OP compared to a Javazon. If you swap the shako for griffons, use Phoenix Strike charge 2 and make sure to hit the 65fcr breakpoint and either tele back to river or mind blast a monster to attack and keep stacks for Diablo then IMO the clear speed would match that of the Java. Also, you can tele backwards in the throne and attack those mobs to keep stacks after wave 3 and before Baal
@darthleader5806
@darthleader5806 Жыл бұрын
I am happy to see you do more D2R content! :)
@andreychetvertakov4574
@andreychetvertakov4574 Жыл бұрын
Played this build on ladder. My take on it. Cons: 1) Expiring charges - 1 HC death for me is enough to quit this build :D 2) Excessive animations (eyes hurt literally. Had to lower brightness). 3) Telestomping is the best - but risky (not doing it on HardCore) 4) Cobra strike is inconsistent: undead, ubers, d-clone - oh well.. 5) Not easy to waste away charges in case you have more than you need. 6) Weapon slots are locked 7) Resistances are a big problem 8) Sin makes noise when attacking 9) Tons of competition for GG items on ladder / popular build ==> expensive gear. 10) MF is not reasonably easy to stack ---- Pros: 1) Flexibility: cold / fire / lite damage sources 2) Excels with good gear 3) Can do any content solo even on p8 and fast! 4) top tier build.
@jasonbonadio8870
@jasonbonadio8870 Жыл бұрын
Love that you went to bat for mosaic, this is my first time ever playing an assassin and it's really been a lot of fun. I definitely agree on the pros and cons and I agree that people do not like this build because they don't like something that seems shinier than what they've been playing.
@zackfea6498
@zackfea6498 Жыл бұрын
To not worry about charges, i only use PS charge 1 to kill most things. That meteor flame on the ground last a really long time to set a foundation to build up charges easy, but just a little slower waiting on the meteors to fall.
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos Жыл бұрын
I think the Mosaicsin is a hair overtuned. It does a variety of things very well on what is comparatively a shoestring budget. That said, I think the MA tree is in a decent spot currently, and it shouldn't be nerfed or even significantly reworked to rein in Mosaic. If the build needs to be overtuned to keep Martial Arts functional, so be it.
@dimitarangelkovski9877
@dimitarangelkovski9877 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the runeword that makes barbarians get melee splash
@MarkMiller304
@MarkMiller304 Жыл бұрын
@Patridge nah I really like legendary powers on runewords, they should make d2 exactly like d3. D3 has the best itemization like Dbrunski was saying.
@tomas_esconjaureguy
@tomas_esconjaureguy Жыл бұрын
@@MarkMiller304 why not just play d3 then?
@MarkMiller304
@MarkMiller304 Жыл бұрын
@@tomas_esconjaureguy I’m just agreeing with Dbrunski, he makes pretty compelling arguments wouldn’t you say?
@smite0568
@smite0568 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, I like the comments about the Fury druid crushing ubers as I play one however I have always had major trouble with Ubers just with Baal with mana drain. How do you deal with it?
@QuisMagister
@QuisMagister Жыл бұрын
As a dude who went back to d2 to avoid screen vomit and zoomboom meta from poe, seeing mosaic introduced was a concern. While getting all the power along with the annoyance of the charges might seem good, Id much rather see them re-design the runeword entirely to be more in line with d2 general design. 1: Make only 1 claw be needed(so the offhand becomes interesting) 2: Increase the rune cost appropriately 3: Change the mechanic to allow only 1 type of charges to be active, while making those charges last forever. It would remove the stressfull charge management, while limiting the power without diminishing player choice. Essentially you getting downtime for switching between charges rather than an All or Nothing approach.
@BMFP1
@BMFP1 Жыл бұрын
Maintaining charges is a pita, already made a alt for a fb/hydra sorc. Gonna keep that sun build together in case they change it to be a smoother play style but in pub Baal games I couldn’t maintain charges
@namonamo494
@namonamo494 Жыл бұрын
wouldnt say as a big con that's it's locked behind mosaic like hammer for eni, java for infi and so on i mean we are talking about 2mul 2 gul VS 2gr rw, that's far to be as much as a burden
@daysleeper9579
@daysleeper9579 Жыл бұрын
One shotting an entire screen filled with monsters is kinda OP if you ask me.
@MrHellweasel
@MrHellweasel Жыл бұрын
Yes, other characters can do certain specific things better but I think that what people are saying is that the assassin can do it all, on very little investment. Yes, other class builds are also locked behind certain items but enigma or infinity are nowhere close in terms of rune value to mosaic. Personally, I do not mind. I think each class should have a build like that. What does baffle me is that the same patch that nerfed cold mastery because it was out of line introduced this monstrosity :D
@WooliteMammoth
@WooliteMammoth Жыл бұрын
You have to take into account the cost of things and ease of play. Even the hammerdin, who also requires enigma and a full inventory of charms to clear P8 that fast, doen't wipe the whole screen with one hammer. The blizz sorc got a big nerf with cold mastery this season, which sucks btw since everything is cold immune, and even so is much slower just by the nature of the animation and the area it hits. Sure she doesn't need any big RW and has native tele, but you're not doing P8 unless you have a good fathom, nightwings, cold skillers, arachs, etc. All that costs more than 2 guls and 2 mals. And the sin has a teleport-ISH skill too.
@invoker5632
@invoker5632 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I used to play Diablo 2 Plugy and just bought Diablo 2 Resurrected and I was wondering if there are any changes in new diablo versus Plugy? can you restart your skills unlimited times ? or just 3 times per character via the act 1 quest?
@jasontachell9858
@jasontachell9858 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this build. I was able to make one of these and get to killing everything on players 8 in hell difficulty in three days. I’m level 91 and I definitely still die sometimes, it’s usually quite sudden when it happens. This is also an offline character on the switch, all self found items. I use a helm I rolled that is +2 to all skills and 19 resist all, skin of the viper magi with um +50 resists, raven frost rings, random +2 amulet with resists, lightning + fire + cold sunder charms -70-74 to resists. I also have one +1 to skills grand charm and a bunch of resist small charms. This character can kill anything, some things can kill it lol. I also use a frenzy merc with lawbringer and crescent moon crystal sword, I believe that’s the name of the runeword, it has static field. I’m basically using this guy for his procs and not for his ability to kill, I just want him to not die and slow down the enemy, so I can get and keep charges.
@contris1
@contris1 Жыл бұрын
bro, MA assasin with mosaic has the fastest ubers clearspeed and fastest or nearly fastest 8p Chaos sanc clearspeed matched only with much more expensive javazon. Try ubers with javazon vs MA assasin.
@daemok4752
@daemok4752 Жыл бұрын
at this point if fps is the only issue with MA mosaic sin, they could make it so we could adjust how many effects we show with a minimum of 1. that would be a rather simple graphic adjustment to this game
@randomnobody660
@randomnobody660 Жыл бұрын
IMO the only reason this build doesn't seem op is because of a lack of difficult content. I've been playing ssf for a bit and in my experience the big difference between mosaic sin and the other "top tier" builds is that the sin actually doesn't need anything other than the claws. Outside of the random insta-deaths, she farms with poverty gear p5-7 MUCH better than my blizz sorc, or hammerdin, or javazon with less poverty gear. I'm talking about mosaic, lore, smoke, death's guard etc doing a good bit better than hoto/spirit, shako, vipermagi, arachnid mesh etc. There's also a point about sin now being able to do literally everything, albeit sometimes with a bit of fiddling to keep up charges. Also in a pinch, just phoenix strike + some potion chugging is typically enough if charges do fall off.
@Coooley
@Coooley Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Finally a Sin is good in P8 PvM and not broken in other regards (like PvP). Well said. And welcome back :)
@contris1
@contris1 Жыл бұрын
I dont. Javazon doesnt melt ubers in sub 1min. Mossaic sin melts PvM like no other build and no prebuff needed. fade + leech from cobra strike - S rank low cost super safe build for entire PvM. What is comparable.
@asharedo
@asharedo 7 ай бұрын
The prebuff is standing there trying to get charges up. As you can see in the video, javazon clears P8 chaos sanctuary faster than Mosaic sin. And as he pointed out, fury druid (and tbh a decked out smiter) clears ubers just as fast. Also this is for P8, if we talk about P1-3 then there is no competition at all, nova sorc and javazon will clear way faster. Nova dude to high tele rate and nova skill owning in lower player counts. And java as you will legit 1 shot the entire screen and even mobs off screen, whereas Mosaic sin AOE is a lot more concentrated/smaller. Also it's annoying to get charges up, which is a big put off for many people. @@contris1
@sobrewfinssomgosawyer1990
@sobrewfinssomgosawyer1990 Жыл бұрын
the worst problem about this is the massive lag it loads on buffer and may cause bad game exp for people with pc that cannot render such flood. so alone that, the stricts need to be fixed and certainly effect on outcome of skill use in the future.
@LateKnight347
@LateKnight347 Жыл бұрын
what about boss kill time?? faster than cs zon? how it works with dragon talon is op.
@7kortos7
@7kortos7 Жыл бұрын
I really want to try 3 charges of Phoenix strike because the chaos bolts look super cool, and the ice bolts are a lot less "screen aids" than the lightning. the lightning does have better clear speed but the ice bolts seem to shotgun bosses and the slow is insanely helpful. I have a really nice Nightwing and a cold sunder in Non-ladder. might wait until season ends to try it out. another upside is i don't have to count 2 charges before spamming the rest of my skills, minor thing.
@KahluaBomb
@KahluaBomb Жыл бұрын
wind druid and kicksin require no runewords to be really good builds. I'd argue that wind druid is maybe even the best everyday build for anyone, budget or godly. He's so strong and absorbs 3-4k elemental damage before taking any damage? Beast
@HoustonPlaysGames
@HoustonPlaysGames Жыл бұрын
Let’s not confuse viable and optimal. All the builds you mentioned were viable without enigma or infinity.
@KATAKOTO69
@KATAKOTO69 Жыл бұрын
Ive build this with infy and enigma and honestly although different and enjoyable, im not making this again in the future, getting the charges and knowing which exact charges you got so they do the effect that you want (fractal lightning) is a colossal pain. No idea why people say this is op.
@nAmE7056
@nAmE7056 Жыл бұрын
I made a Marts assassin last season and could clear every area in game and Ubers with no problem. Ofc this build is OP lol
@bradleybarker4833
@bradleybarker4833 Жыл бұрын
What boots are best in slot for this? Trying to figure out what gloves amd boots i should use. I was thinking uped nats for the res and trangs for fcr and res intil i get 2/20s
@zieg0r
@zieg0r Жыл бұрын
Imho it's Gores or Goblin's vs Ubers (as basically a Kicksin on steroids, crushing blow still reigns supreme vs high hp targets), otherwise whatever you're lacking in resists and life.
@MarkMiller304
@MarkMiller304 Жыл бұрын
Why would you not want chance to not consume on the skills themselves? That’s a straight up buff for the assassin, I thought you were all about buffs.
@marcusfarrell7478
@marcusfarrell7478 3 ай бұрын
We MISS YOU DBRUNSKI😢
@MarkMiller304
@MarkMiller304 Жыл бұрын
Finishers always hit, it’s smite on 3fps, all you need is the 3000 ED on tigerstrike and crushing blow to demolish Ubers. Stacking meteors? Do you even know how to play? You can’t seriously suggest fury Druid is a match for it on Ubers.
@gstvntt
@gstvntt Жыл бұрын
I found 3so runic talons with +2 shadow master, is that any good for mosaic?
@polkhigh_33
@polkhigh_33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion and being one of the very few D2 content creators who dont just blindly drop huge clickbait titles and clips to mislead people watching it for them clicks. Agree with your take for the most part, with some minor exeptions. Yes, MA sin is strong, but its not an S-Tier build, since it really pales in comparison to the existing S-Tier builds. Especially considering the fact that the vast majority of players doesnt do runs beyond p3 or p5 splits. And yes, several build's endgame viability is locked behind certain high rarity drops. But gotta be honest, most of these builds are decently strong by themselves already. Like you can absolutely play a nova or furyzon without Griffon and Infinity at great efficiency, just like you really dont need that enigma to rock a hammerdin or foh. With MA sin however the difference in power is HUGE. Having duo mosaic instantly turns your barely p1-able meleesin into a p5+ smasher. I really dont like this type of D3 Itemization aka having single build-defining items with unique effects. Therefore I'd like to have mosaic stay the way it currently is, but also give claw mastery a small %age to not consume charges per level. Which would to a certain degree even out that huge power spike, make playthroughs and stuff much more enjoyable and give more endgame options. On the explanation part instead of just benching runs I wouldve gone for the mathematical explanation. Cant stress enough how much attack and cast frames matter in terms of killspeed, plus the damage profile of the particular effect, but maybe thats too much of a theorycraft for some players to digest.
@frankenstein3163
@frankenstein3163 Жыл бұрын
I hope they make druid near op next. Doubtful .. But like you I have always loved the druid.. All builds.. Hardly have any time behind the wheel of the wind druid. Ever going to tell me info about you're outro music ?
@Pharmacopium
@Pharmacopium Жыл бұрын
Can you do a DPS mathematical breakdown of the fully charged up mosaic sun unleashing charges with dragon talon vs other characters? Like a Baal kill time comparison if you don’t want to do the math?
@JayTheProduct
@JayTheProduct Жыл бұрын
Proper geared hammerdin still blows it out of the water tbh.
@ashuragaming1981
@ashuragaming1981 10 ай бұрын
Java can kill baal on full gear with a single hit😀
@drjagged
@drjagged Жыл бұрын
100% agree dbrunski. I would still like to see the charges maybe last 30 seconds or more , as I feel like I can’t chat with anyone in game with fear I will be losing charges >.
@TopSecretGG
@TopSecretGG Жыл бұрын
Nice working enviroment, looks comfy! :)
@pascaltomasovic3586
@pascaltomasovic3586 Жыл бұрын
I mostly agree. The issue however is that mosaic is really cheap with only Mal Gul Amn. Should be like VexGulZod tbf
@Unusualhairyload
@Unusualhairyload Жыл бұрын
Heres the way around it, Use claw of thunder 1 charge, 2 pheonix 2 fire ( dont max fire) 3 boi .. Make damage out put, Do not run claws of thunder 3 pheonix 2 , It is slower. ITs faster to run Boi 3 pheonix 2 , than having all 3
@noneyabusiness5455
@noneyabusiness5455 Жыл бұрын
why do your test in CS when Diablo is one of the few fights that your charges drop? You other "op" classes that either require high runes or can only do limited content well. The MA sin can do everything and only has to worry about dropping chrages in a few fights (but can still get them). Imo mosaics are 100% op at a very cheap entery point.
@alexanderthegreat3424
@alexanderthegreat3424 Жыл бұрын
I beg to disagree. Mosaic is OP for the mere reason that it produces S-tier farming advantage with lesser investment. 1.) Gul rune is the highest rune for the RW 2.) Doesnt require Enigma. 3.) Doesnt require Infinity. If Mosaic RW has to be nerfed, they may reduce it from 50% to 25%. Or if not Mosaic RW, just remove the 'sure hit' on finishing moves when there is at least 1 charge.
@7kortos7
@7kortos7 Жыл бұрын
3:37 i'd be ok with that. or give me transparency/ opacity settings for skills. I've been wanting that forever. it won't help the fps but it fixes the screen vomit. if they gave us an option to turn of Global Illumination for skills that would help FPS by a lot. all those lightsorces happening every kick...
@icyu2252
@icyu2252 7 ай бұрын
Blizzard had to pay this man to say mosaic isn't op lol. No way he thinks this isn't op. He either delusional or a sell out if he really thinks this is true.
@ShaveItDown
@ShaveItDown Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you're back! I checked your twitter last night to make sure you were okay lol.
@GetenTheG04t
@GetenTheG04t Жыл бұрын
You don't ever have to lose your charges when doing CS or Baal runs. When you pop the last seal in CS, just tele out and kick a monster in the river of flame and tele back to Diablo before he even spawns. When doing baal runs, you can usually kill the 3d wave before they spawn hydras, and even if you don't, you can just tele back and kick a monster farther back in the throne room.
@mathieublanchet7137
@mathieublanchet7137 Жыл бұрын
agree that what i do!
@raminmueller6888
@raminmueller6888 Жыл бұрын
This is true, but it's still very annoying we have to do that. I don't even chat anymore when I have my charges up just because I don't want them to expire
@DDHO
@DDHO Жыл бұрын
Not something you’ll wanna do over hundreds of runs. Fun for a day or two because it’s shiny but has become a chore after just three weeks of ladder
@jurajtkac2192
@jurajtkac2192 Жыл бұрын
Hi… Can i use this build on single player ? Thx..😉
@lucasgiunta8874
@lucasgiunta8874 Жыл бұрын
How do you keep your charges up at 100% all the time ?
@elchucko7
@elchucko7 Жыл бұрын
I look at it this way, I can finally play a MA Assassin and have a good time while clearing end game content. Also, great take, great vid.
@NightwingSWGOH
@NightwingSWGOH Жыл бұрын
I think whats really great about this build is budget. Its not super expensive and does a ton of work.
@Fadeddeath
@Fadeddeath Жыл бұрын
Welcome Back! Been dying to try this build but I have had no luck with gul rune drops or even a single mf charm this season...
@Eatlead727
@Eatlead727 Жыл бұрын
I think what I didn't like about it is I always felt stressed to keep my charges up. I like to take my time when I want to take my time.
@Kuposaur
@Kuposaur Жыл бұрын
Good to see you Dbrunski. I really enjoyed your DeadSpace Remake Streams. Cya soon!
@Private-lw1td
@Private-lw1td Жыл бұрын
I think it's very OP. I mean it can kill anything that moves in the game with ease, and all you need are 2 mals and 2 guls which are much easier to obtain than the jahs and bers that most characters need. I think a good balancing would be to only be able to charge one type of skill at a time instead of all at once. That way,. players can choose between either fire, cold and lightning. Also you don't cook your gpu.
@Tyrael538
@Tyrael538 Жыл бұрын
are you serious? pre-nerf cold sorc was OP but not mosaic assassin?? it only needs 2 mal and 2 gul, it's dirt cheap and once you get 2 mosaic you can kill anything anywhere on any player count. clear speed isn't everything, the ability to farm any area chosen is wayyy more important IMO.
@RickeOOO
@RickeOOO Жыл бұрын
YEP. A just decently geared nova sorc, full tals, insight, sunder, couple skillers torch+anni is twice as fast and efficient in p8 games than a fully decked out MA sin. Just the time you spend having to stack upp charges in every new zone u enter, and the slow teleport frames, (even with 102+fcr swap) is just not enough to even compare to a Nova sorc, which still to this day is just so much more effective than anything else when it comes to gathering currency. You could make an arguement for trav-barb if u can put in 2 leechers rq and spam trav in less than 40 seconds over and over. This character is hyped by people that dont understand that movement is the key to farmspeed. Not damage lol.
@JerBear0328
@JerBear0328 Жыл бұрын
I have mostly optimized gear on my mosaic assassin and nova sorc on singleplayer. I have not found a monster type that doesn't get obliterated with a single cast of phoenix strike on players 8. No elite pack in any terror zone has survived more than 1 right click. The only reason the sorc cleared anywhere close to that is that her fcr frames are better. Clear speed and kill speed shouldn't be conflated. I don't think it's okay for the martial sin to be able to teleport to a pack, right click once, and repeat on the most difficult content of the game.
@tonyr8816
@tonyr8816 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos and normally I agree with your take - but not in this case. I think that comparing mosaic to D3 itemization is on point. You literally MUST have this to make the build work. It is taking a step away from what makes d2 great, itemization and hard choices. The other builds you mentioned like nova sorc, fire sorc, javazon don't "need" infinity like the MA assassin NEEDS mosaic. It's like a 10X damage buff (I don't know the literal increase but its a lot). Not only that, mosaic is way "cheaper" than infinity or enigma because you can get the runes from hellforge or countess runs. Hot take - Do you think you are somewhat biased because you suggested buffing it to 50% and feel the need to defend its current place in the meta?
@opk168
@opk168 Жыл бұрын
It is really not that OP. People who say that 2xmosaic is all you need are very wrong and most likely have not really played the class at all. There is plenty of maps that do not work without enigma. You can move with dragon flight to one direction fast and then when you hit dead end, run back and loose all charges. Building up charges without CTA will lead up to accidental deaths, because the survivability is not that great while charging up, you also miss a lot while charging up due to low accuracy. Try joining baal run, if there is hammerdin, blizzard sorc or javazon present, mobs are dead before you get half of charges up. Join cow run, charge up somewhere safe, enter portal and find everything dead before you get to hit anything, loose charges and try to generate charges from cow pack using mindblast. While half way done charging, someone kills the pack, find a new pack and try to charge up again. Group play with random groups is really an issue. When you have all the high end gear and you get charges up, martial arts is fast and powerful. But so are many other classes when they have the same gear.
@kaelos4
@kaelos4 Жыл бұрын
Main issue I have with this is how much effects it makes. This needs to change. Also they should work on skill tree not "fix" it with a single expensive runeword limiting viable gear and making it more item dependent. It overall feels like D3 designed build not D2 style. Yes many builds need good items that's why everyone just plays sorc since forever but drops are rare anyway. I don't think it's good to make it worse. I don't trade much so I can only test cheapest builds and sorc is still my strongest character even got another buff with Cold Sunder Charm + Cold Mastery while others need expensive -res or sunders are useless.
@Hyperion856
@Hyperion856 Жыл бұрын
Where I feel like it's broken is the damage type spread. You do not need any sunders or infinity to kill everything which is certainly a big step above most classes
@MajinHuffy
@MajinHuffy Жыл бұрын
yeah build wasnt op til i was properly geared however like blades of ice freezes everything around you for 20 seconds lmao, and true no need for sunders, also u get crushing blow from gloves/gores and the physical dmg buff blam even elemental resistants get killed wit phys dmg lol.
@kxstkv333
@kxstkv333 Жыл бұрын
>Hdin just existing
@Hyperion856
@Hyperion856 Жыл бұрын
@@kxstkv333 >MOST classes
@eserxxx3211
@eserxxx3211 Жыл бұрын
Play thro Tiger Strike Dragon Talon and Tail + Phoenix Thunder and Ice Charges , ah and cobra strike 1 point for heal mana life , on the left button i have Phoenix + Thunder + Ice + fiz dmg of tigger strike charged on dragon talon , its vs fire imun , when no fire imun i use right click Dragon tail 60k fire dmg charged with tiger strike ... very cool bild , easy to play
@Beardmanman
@Beardmanman Жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with it is the graphics vomit on the screen like you said. If it didn't look like your character was hacked up and shooting out a grand finale fire works on the screen I would like it more. I know you can fool with settings to tone it down but still feels bleh.
@shinoobigod3363
@shinoobigod3363 Жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who says cold sorc is op every season lol. Mosaic is definetly stronger than cold sorc pre nerf.
@KarolPirog-m8t
@KarolPirog-m8t 8 ай бұрын
Agree
@Gauldoth06
@Gauldoth06 7 ай бұрын
Cold sorc is OP and I don't understand why do people play it every season. 🤡
@shinoobigod3363
@shinoobigod3363 7 ай бұрын
@@Gauldoth06 mosaic sin is way stronger than pre nerfed cold sorc. It not even close. The fact that he thinks it doesn't need a nerf is complete my point. The fact that he complained every season about cold sorc but think mosaic is not op is completely a bad take and is my point.
@williamestabrook3624
@williamestabrook3624 6 ай бұрын
Teleport is broken.. add the farm speed for aoe clearing and yeah.
@Gauldoth06
@Gauldoth06 6 ай бұрын
@@shinoobigod3363 What? Wait what? Pre-nerf sorc. You mean the sorc that was able to solo any content in the game - except Ubers - at level 60 or so because all you needed was cold mastery and blizzard? That sorc was beyond broken. It was so broken that when I got my first infinite after the nerf the infinity felt like shit.
@13deke
@13deke Жыл бұрын
Completely agree that it's not OP. It is another fun build with a ton of variables to keep you interested in the character and build out end-game gear. You can run it with a shako and hustle armor just fine while farming or building trade-value to get enigma or griffons or flickering flame, etc. It keeps the game interesting, which is exactly what D2:R needs at this point. I am so happy to have a non-caster build that can farm basically anywhere - CS, Baal, Cows, TZ's, Ubers.. anywhere. BRING ME MORE, BLIZZARD. I LOVE IT
@iproge
@iproge Жыл бұрын
Mosaic only OP at visual vomiting and its unbilievable absurd game mechanic wise to activate so much crap so fast, and only thing that can cure that is less visuals. So adding time delay between finisher activation and keeping dps by upping skill numbers would be a great fix. This would open up more build variations also when Dragon Talon isnt must pick, and most imporantly, less vomiting.
@1ove1ess
@1ove1ess Жыл бұрын
You completely miss the fact that despite the fact that you can find A build (sometimes 2) that does something better than this assassin, it still performs almost as good, but in ALL areas of play bar PvP basically. Comparing this to some fury druid or some javazon that only does 1 thing better than the rest is completely missing the point imo. How do you explain that this character does literally everything better or at least almost as well as each and every single best character in the game for that specific role? Yeah it is op, there’s no point in arguing otherwise honestly: it is op because it is *almost* the one best character for every role. What you argued here is that it’s not op because it’s only *almost* the best at everything.
@BobSmith173
@BobSmith173 Жыл бұрын
I do think it is interesting that you compare a single build of Martial Arts assassin with generally the same gear (dual mosaic, Enigma, 65FCR, helm that boosts elemental damage) with multiple different builds and classes that have comparable clear speeds. The MA assassin is doing everything roughly as well as other classes can do just that one run. The build would be more interesting if you had to tech more into 2-3 different skills so you couldn't just use all 6 in combination and vary you PS as to what does the best DPS vs what you are clearing at any given moment
@arthur1418
@arthur1418 Жыл бұрын
I only disagree with your comparison to the were druid being better at Ubers. Yes, they probably are better for this specific situation. But can they also clear a /p8 chaos faster than a Nova sorc?
@MrMannerless
@MrMannerless Жыл бұрын
I remember when my friend and I invented a wwsin back in the day… that shit was op.
@tryllejens
@tryllejens Жыл бұрын
Turning down "VFX lighting quality" really makes a difference for the GPU utilization of this build. I put it to low, everything else at the highest, and can't tell the difference.
@ghostpos
@ghostpos Жыл бұрын
I agree with you but I think there's also some server impact with the skills in this build, confirmed by many.
@Abber64
@Abber64 Жыл бұрын
I tried the Mosaik Assassin, and I honestly did not like it. It really sucked always running out of charges, especially during Baal runs. I also found that the brightness was so intense in a lot of scenarios where you couldn't even see enemies or yor drops. I switched back to my Javazon in Season 3 which I really enjoy playing and works well in all scenarios. In my opinion, there are a lot of better builds out there.
@Kylethejobber
@Kylethejobber 7 ай бұрын
I have a 7900 xtx with a 5800x3d and this Build loves to hit the FPS
@damil5721
@damil5721 Жыл бұрын
It's obviously way over tuned, it's cheap AF to make, and yes it's OP. Hardcore really shows how absurd the build is, able to push into the 90's extremely quickly while buddy playing mosaic carried us practically. Eventually we said screw this and played PD2 instead. He did everything with ease, ubers, chaos, all p8.
@M4RTN11
@M4RTN11 Жыл бұрын
Best guides out there with well balanced verdicts not only looking on the damage dealt! Glad your back, looking forward for more Diablo2 and Diablo4 content!
@guilhermebasso9219
@guilhermebasso9219 Жыл бұрын
For Diablo, I think you can Mind blast some mobs to convert them and then kill them just before Diablo appears.
@Papapep9
@Papapep9 Жыл бұрын
I want to point out that the setup you used for your chaos test was not optimal for clear speed. 2 charge ps clears much faster while being less defensive. Also, a giant con in my opinion os the amount of particles generated using all charges combined. This mixed with the lava in river of flame is enough to consistently crash my game
@kylesmith987
@kylesmith987 Жыл бұрын
You can fix the crashing issue with mosaic assassin by turning the VFX settings to low and it barely has any impact on how the game looks.
@jdg_9
@jdg_9 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. While d2 has been a great game for many years, subtle changes over time are great and add some diversity to this simple game.
@LeslieSnipes
@LeslieSnipes Жыл бұрын
Is there a build that can clear everything faster??
@nodamnclan
@nodamnclan Жыл бұрын
You're losing it DB. Mosaic sin is absolutely go anywhere OP rainbow damage with just 2 mal. Its laughable that people are calling for QOL buffs to stack durations.
@Dbrunski125
@Dbrunski125 Жыл бұрын
Try the build without skillers infinity merc etc. You can't just slap perfect t gear and say its op. Wirhout enigma it becomes very hard to maintain charges efficiently. Without infinity its a big step down in damage.
@xorxeloco8708
@xorxeloco8708 Жыл бұрын
your streaming setup looks great. good to have you back for d4 beta. I basically agree with your opinion on the mosaic-assa, but I'd really like to see some tweaks: i'd like to see around 1,15% chance on not using a charge on claw mastery. so it is possible to get away with only 1 mosaic and still use the effect and have some more situational punch while playing through the game. in addition I'd reduce attack speed and number of hits on dragon talon and vastly improve ias scaling for dragon claw. so i'd would be a possibility to use mosaic even with a shield and make it a safe, yet lower dmg build. or go fully offensive with high-dmg claws
@bobnewkirk7003
@bobnewkirk7003 Жыл бұрын
easy fix would be to only use one charge on the first kick of Talon. Then Sins would run Claw for the 2x charge proc, tail for the AOE, or Talon for all the small hits focusing on something like CB for bosses. The claw mastery fix seems like the best option for me. keeping this entire playstyle locked behind both weapon equips is going to stifle progression and feel really stale by June. maybe buff charge duration by 5 seconds to make up for some of the issues cited in the vid, but something needs to change.
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