The Most Advanced Digital Government in the World

[@freethink]

Should this approach be adopted in other countries?

[@XINN1X]

Everything but voting seems great. Online voting seems like it would lead to a lot of people selling their vote since you can just video chat with someone after they pay you and they can watch you vote for their candidate while in person voting they can't come into the voting booth to make sure your voting for who they paid.

[@EmilyJelassi]

Yes, yes, yes.. a thousand times yes!!! I definitely think that the US should go this way!

[@karya1176]

@@XINN1X in Estonia, you can change your i-vote during the early voting period so unless lots of people schedule their voting to the last minutes, it would hardly ever become an issue.

[@XINN1X]

@@karya1176 Oh wow thats a super simple and effective way of getting around this issue! but couldnt people sell their account and password so whoever buys their vote can just check and make sure the vote is for the person they paid for once early voting closes. so you dont get paid until the early voting is done and then they check and see you did vote for the candidate the paid for

[@karya1176]

@@XINN1X I guess you could overcome it by allowing people to vote on paper during the election day, but honestly, I've never even heard of anyone trying to buy or sell votes. You'd need an ID-card or your mobile phone to identity yourself instead of an password, so I think the bigger issue might be of people taking their older relatives' cards and voting in their stead. But if you think of voting in the paper ballots, it's not entirely safe either. Nowadays people can take pictures of their votes to prove them; more often in earlier times but also today some women do not dare to vote differently than their husbands because they are afraid to lie. It all comes down to the trust in the society. Due to widespread frauds on voting during the Soviet times, Estonians don't think that voting with the paper ballots is always the more trustworthy way. I also don't remember if you can actually check your vote after the election period has ended.

[@reality8763]

Petition to rename the system as "E-stonia"

[@muhsin_sultan]

Exactly my thoughts

[@cwildeman]

Right?! How was that not the first and only name they thought of?

[@megahello9029]

We don't want it like. Sounds like a joke.

[@LukeVilent]

Estonian language is known for long vowels, the name Estonia in Estonian is Eestimaa. So E-Estonia is very authentically Eestooniiaan.

[@TørvikEU]

I agree they have lost an opportunity with that one.

[@DarkGT]

Being a Blockchain makes it secure from tampering and is publicly verifiable, by design you can't augment a part of a chain without re-doing all of the following blocks in the chain (at least not fast to fool the rest of the de-centralized participants). Well done for using so futuristic stuff Estonia.

[@freethink]

Yeah, really cool to see it used in such a smart, practical way!

[@DarkGT]

@yeah I'm John Assal With every new technology there are way to improve the security. There is work in this direction.

[@elsaltamonte]

It does not make it secure from tampering, just it's more difficult than other electronic systems. Any blockchain system just requires to have 50% + 1 agents to reverse everything and no one will know or have a track record only because of the way it works. Any current electronic system (banking, voting, government, health, you name it) is never secure enough because there is always many ways to bypass them. Paper AND electronic is the safest way, so an electronic signature requires to be generated once a paper version has been issued, not the other way around.

[@koisose0]

is there a whitepaper for this? didnt know that it was a blockchain i thought just a database?

[@gigachad1983]

Estonia has a game funded by estonian goverment, thats a gamer move by the goverment

[@freethink]

Good flag! It's at www.ekuubis.eu/ if you want to play (it's easier if you speak estonian).

[@zaktripper4908]

Just like the US government funding Pokémon Go?

[@tankart3645]

@@zaktripper4908 this game is a joke, it was just a way to wash money

[@skiledR]

way to give me hope for the future. You made the future a little less bleak today. thank you freethink

[@freethink]

Glad to hear, thank you for watching!

[@ssiddarth]

Really interesting & definitely something the whole world needs to learn, Great video 👌

[@freethink]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

[@geoffmooregm]

Simple, free, uncomplicated online taxes have been presented many times. However it is the professional accounting companies that rally and protest it because they are the only ones with something to lose.

[@Siranoxz]

Someone has to pay for their overly expensive bureaucracy right?..

[@MrVaunorage]

This guys sounds like an old grandpa telling stories of the past from the future

[@freethink]

"When I was your age, we had internet speeds of 2mbps both ways."

[@minaDesuDesu]

Thanks for a well produced introduction video that I can now show to my foreign acquaintances.

[@YeikyRivera]

American -- *Watches video* Estonia -- *Has online voting and allows you to fill up applications with 6-7 clicks all while storing your information* Americans -- *Have a complete paper trail from every application that each individual has filled up that will eventually get tossed in the garbage and anyone can get access to your information ~~ that's so-called secured* Americans: Why would anyone want to store all of their information online, any hacker can get access to it??? Estonia with end to end encrypted data for its citizens: ok.

[@Mythhammer]

Encrypted data, say hello to quantum computers...

[@freethink]

Very real! People are often more comfortable with the flawed or insecure systems we have than potential improvements they don't trust. There's a certain point where it's prudent, and a point after which it's a real impediment to progress.

[@Mythhammer]

@@freethink Progress is all well and good. But it needs to be taken in a thoughtful and truly transparent fashion. It also has to address real problems. Not contrived ones.

[@prasun6084]

@@disstanum Harder not impossible. Blockchain is as good as they are coded. $30 billion worth of Bitcoins disappeared forever even with biggest blockchain network. On top of that quantum computers will be more disruptive. Nobody really cares to hack election of Estonia, but for big powerful countries it's a big deal.

[@AdhikJoshi]

This is typical adoption curve, Estonia has proven system works perfectly. Now slowly few more country will join in, And it won't take long that paper system will be obsolete in coming decades

[@identi8040]

Ngl a digital government was a bit terrifying for me, but knew it was going to be a required step in societies evolution.

[@freethink]

It's a good point. It's definitely understandable to be wary of more personal information going online - and yet, do we still want to be waiting at the DMV with copies of our electricity bills in 30 years? The earning trust part seems crucial. Perhaps if cities or states in the U.S. were able to pioneer it and get it working well, it could spread to other areas from there.

[@BlaCkySNipEr]

3:58 that the most truest thing i ever heard.

[@2onceuponatime]

Spot on..

[@geographytimes6172]

This is the future of Govt.

[@MrKh4O]

3:30 what you'll hear here is mind-blowing!

[@freethink]

Haha yeah, we didn't know that was an option

[@justbegentle]

Especially 3:37... it's shocking. And 3:58 "... Don't worry about the government doing it directly, Worry about the govt doing it indirectly". So true!

[@sleepyjoe7843]

From my experience last 5 years Russia surpassed everyone in Digital governing. Maybe South Korea is still ahead but ever there I doubt it.

[@ultravidz]

America is the “Bitcoin” of countries: Pioneering and innovative in its heyday and a good store of value.. but now outdated, bloated, unable to change and becoming more useless in the face of more nimble countries that can try new things and advance.

[@olufemidavies2135]

Well this comment didn't age very accurately, Apologise to Mr Bitcoin

[@ultravidz]

@@olufemidavies2135 Yeah? Just wait a while for Walstreet whales to pump & dump it and destroy confidence in it for the next 5 years again. True value is based on utility, otherwise it’s just a gambling asset that’s doomed to crash if it can’t justify its own price.

[@pynzlyngdohnonglait6698]

Estonia is like an e-digital technology country ever, with online computer classes,online schools,e-identity,e-marketing,e-residency and others...

[@Whoo711]

I heard about this a while ago, and I was BLOWN AWAY I kept wondering, "Why do so few countries- esp. in the Western world- STILL not do much with this approach?? How did ONE OF THE SMALLEST COUNTRIES start before any of those others? Why do the other countries NOT USE their extra resources to emulate, in more ways, what Estonia is doing here??" Seems like a no-brainer, at least to some extent

[@_Fanzy_]

Another reason to be proud of my country.

[@xboxgamerr3660]

I love Estonia

[@freethink]

It's a fascinating place!

[@xboxgamerr3660]

Freethink Yeah

[@dxelson]

President of Estonia speaks perfect American English wut 🤣

[@nononsense424]

Meanwhile in America.....

[@hexaltheninjawow9531]

That's what happens when you live in America

[@jjmarcos]

He also left Estonia and lives in America. Kind of suspect if you ask me

[@nononsense424]

@@jjmarcos lol he's still a citizen of Estonia and either has dual citizenship or a working Visa. Thats like saying business men who live in China or Japan leaving America means they like China or Japan more lol

[@zertvert]

He was born to Estonian immigrants/refugees who escaped war and at first landed in Sweden and then moved to America. So he kinda grew up there and thus speaks English perfectly.

[@ilmco]

an entire nation at the mercy of one “wrong” click… 🧿

[@LaurenceCoonfield-z6q]

Cheers for sharing! I need advice: My Tron Wallet contains some USDT, and I have the seed phrase: -clean- -party- -soccer- -advance- -audit- -clean- -evil- -finish -tonight- -involve- -whip- -action-. How to go about moving them to Coinbase Exchange?

[@Penname25]

I’m seriously thinking of moving there.

[@darcflame37]

Just don't bring covid

[@anasbenbrik622]

if it has good lgbtq+ rights im definitely moving

[@Ulrich_dArth]

@@anasbenbrik622 There are ideas in motion; the local Russians prefer 'dont ask, don't tell' attitude, but Estonians appear to be more accepting of LGBT. Gay marriage is still unavailable as of yet, but they did allow formalized cohabitation back in 2014 I think

[@wadetalks8171]

You would think it would be a no brainer for the U.S. to go this direction ASAP... In terms of the video, great editing, narration and all around information. Well done Freethink!

[@seco000]

well Estonia has a 1.3+ million pop vs a 328+ million pop.

[@potatomo9609]

@@seco000 that’s a even bigger reason to go digital if anything. Internet had proven to be a perfect tools for mass communication.

[@DaraulHarris]

How secure is it?

[@allgoodnamesaretaken.8296]

Hacker paradise.

[@bogdanbogdanovich140]

That swamp is Latvian

[@astraviil3043]

In my opinion it’s time to let Estonia be a nice small Nordic country. Estonia very deserves to be a Nordic country, because Estonia has done a lot of work, we have many smart people, we are good at digital things, we have northern lights and we are very similar to Finland and other Nordic countries like: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland and Greenland. We are not similar to Latvia and Lithuania and the other Eastern Europe countries. It’s time to stop calling Estonia Eastern Europe country and Baltic country and forget all this terrible, rude and mean Soviet times. Let’s just stop this Eastern Europe and Soviet stigma thing and let Estonia turn the new page and let them be a normal small Nordic country next to Sweden and Finland!!! Estonians call themselves the Nordic country and many other people and tourists had also said that Estonia should be a Nordic country, because Estonian people are Finnic people not Balts and we are more similar to Scandinavia. Yes many people had agreed with that Estonia must belong to the Nordic group and seperate from Latvia and Lithuania. They don’t even need these countries, because Estonians communicate more with Finns and other Scandinavian countries. Estonia will be a very good partner for the other Nordic countries. We will do a very great work and we will be very strong!!! ☺️🙏

[@alnvgraha]

Ain't this too short? 😧😣

[@k999ford]

0:28 DANG MAN’S GOT NO ACCENT.

[@matthewv4170]

2:58 is that Peter jones

[@HaiyaAlalfalah786]

Believe or not but Computers is most important thing's but without internet Computers is Nothing I love Computers & internet

[@wendyshoo3476]

Wow Awesome

[@adityahegde4892]

one small breach and BOOM! 😂

[@adityahegde4892]

@@NightProxy I agree

[@freethink]

The security implications are definitely the biggest concern! They were in Estonia as well--as the video mentions, building up trust over a period of years is important, and that the system has not been successfully hacked in 20 years is impressive. The intelligent use of the blockchain to make transactions transparent also seems helpful. That said, not sure that every government in the world would be as technologically competent or trustworthy as Estonia's, so it would definitely have to earn the confidence of the public. But their example - and perhaps people's own experience banking and shopping securely - shows that it is something that can be done.

[@Mythhammer]

@@freethink Building up trust is vital. But never think of ANY system as 100% secure. Trust, but continue to verify.

[@adityahegde4892]

@@disstanum What about human error?

[@adityahegde4892]

@@disstanum makes sense

[@aleksberks]

As an estonian **idk cuz im in finland so I got nothing to say**

[@msluvan4634]

convenience or is it CONTROLL

[@penguii1242]

we need an e-merica

[@freethink]

It would be awesome to get to the point where we could do that; would save people lots of time and likely be a big economic benefit to streamline services.

[@pilotreg]

i love this

[@WendyHuNanNZ]

Very impressed ❤❤❤honestly

[@janecantdance7369]

WAIT YOU DONT FILE TAXES ONLINE? excuse me?

[@harriswelsh1309]

Jane where are you from

[@shad0wyenigma]

I completely disagree that this is the way to go. A system like this may be a good option for things like creating contacts, etc, however for voting it's a terrible idea. Tom Scott created a very good video on why e-voting is a terrible idea, it explains it 100x better than I could.

[@eruno_]

It worked wonders for Estonia.

[@elsaltamonte]

Any blockchain system just requires to have 50% + 1 agents to reverse everything and no one will know or have a track record only because of the way it works. Any current electronic system (banking, voting, government, health, you name it) is never secure enough because there is always many ways to bypass them. Paper AND electronic is the safest way, so an electronic signature requires to be generated once a paper version has been issued, not the other way around.

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[@jamesdavies3815]

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[@UmbralMxx]

4:29 INE, qué haces en Estonia?? 😂

[@symphony858]

That Blockchain runs on ethereum and been hacked several times,over 500 000 I'd was hacked

[@kalx007]

not accurate.

[@LuisMendoza-pp9qi]

It's almost as if Americans WANT to make it harder on all of us!!

[@habibnurjaman5160]

good european

[@Ninjaeule97]

Tom Scott did I great video why online voting (and even voting machines) are a really bad idea. Keep voting analog and digitalize the rest of the government.

[@Ninjaeule97]

@@disstanum still it is a lot of hassle and the likelihood that your conspiracy will get caught is pretty high considering everyone casting the ballot needs to be part of it. Simply not adding a large amount of entries to the block chain/adding different entries then casted or adding entries that were never casted just needs one person. Also it's much easier to cast wrong doubts on the results were 90+% of the people have no idea how blockchains work.

[@Ninjaeule97]

@@disstanum Well count me the 90+%. See most people have no idea how blockchains work, which breaks trust. Also having everyone's voting record public or announcing it to everyone would break anonymity, which is a vital part of the voting process. I don't see a way to get around this. You should watch Tom Scott video, he does a much better job of explaining the subject than I can.

[@ayoiawe]

@@Ninjaeule97 unless it's some kind of unique code which cant be known by your peers unless they have your information. Then again a system like this is more possible in a small, well educated homogenous society.

[@tankart3645]

He left out quite a lot of technical stuff from his video, and was kind off biased the whole time.

[@SherriP]

For everyone who thinks or feels God doesn't care, that He is indifferent and or mean etc …. Why is the world as it is, evil everywhere, sickness and death, tyranny and over ruling by government?… People ask where is God and His faithfulness, and His love … God does judge sin which is evil and if people don't stop sinning they will die for that disobedience,that sin. When God said if you take from that tree you will die He was saying if you disobey, you sin, I will punish that sin because God does punish it, sickness, demons and death. And if you keep sinning I will punish you to the point of death, is that punishment. Sickness is a consequence of sin and it is a judgement God makes upon the people for their sin. All sickness takes its toll on the body and will result in death unless you stop sinning and that brings a reward from God for the righteous decision to stop sinning that brought that illness. Throughout scripture God tells us these things. God does love and there is mercy in His punishment too. He chastises those He loves. His wrath doesn't mean He doesn't love, it doesn't mean there is no mercy, it means He puts His law first and He obeys it first. He punished sin and then punishes sin and so forth and if someone doesn't stop sinning or sins more then that judgment is death just as He said, sin is death. Scripture says we are all responsible for working out our salvation with fear and trembling. Seek scripture, learn who He is and what He said to obey and do it. if you obey Him you live in blessings just like Deuteronomy 28 says and it also says disobedience is curses, that's sickness, demons possibly and again to continue in sin results in death. God told all the details, and paid for us to get out of sin and how we should live and when people don't live righteous then the world looks like it did in the days of Noah, violence, drunkenness and such lovers of self, pleasure and all sin and life apart from God, life in disobedience to God. Why should He bless sin? He punishes it then punishes sin more if someone keeps sinning. Is it tough people die from that choice they make, their sin and lack of seeking God to obey what He said, yes it hurts. How do you think God feels, He loved the world so much He gave His only begotten son and Yeshua died in agony for us to be out of that sin, taking God's wrath upon Himself so how do I think He feels, grieved so grieved but I know from scripture He always obeys what His word says, He never changes and that includes every word He said. Now Yeshua took God's wrath upon Himself for our sin Isaiah 53. We get peace with God and can come before Him to be heard and we get to be cleansed from our iniquities, sin. Just like the lamb sacrifices in the old testament Jesus was that for us a peace offering and forgiveness offering. We get freedom from that sinful past, from that sin and we get our healings because His stripes healed us from the consequences of sin. He gave us a way out. A way to start again out of that wrath. How loving is that God gave us His son who took God's wrath for us out of love. How loving just how loving is our God who made a way for us to be out of that wrath? Wrath we deserved by our sin and continued sin. But God so loved the world He gave us Yeshua. Yeshua gave His life to rise to life for us to give us new life. A new creation to begin again a new life, having been born again. Having received forgiveness for sin and a pardon from God's wrath, that very wrath you talk about. But God gave us a way out of His wrath when Yeshua our lamb paid for our sin. Again how loving is that our way out of God's wrath. Our new life. Our second chance to live rightly before our Holy righteous God our being born again to live right because God planned for us to not all receive His wrath yet His son for everyone, one for everyone and a way out, pardoned and free to live life righteous whole healed delivered, how loving oh so very loving that is. All that is in scripture too. Seek and find, learn who He is and obey and see more of it. Mark 4:24 the more you obey God the more He reveals to you, it means that. Matthew 6:33 live it daily and understand who He is and just how loving He always is and honestly how loved you are will be seen felt and KNOWN too. 💕 May you come to understand Him all your days seeking and finding and growing in the knowledge of God in Yeshua's name 💕 Do you believe in Yeshua as the son of God who died and rose 3 days later? If yes you are saved, receiving eternal life in heaven. If no, call upon Him and believe believe because if you don't choose to believe while alive you will spend eternity in hell, agony. Choose to believe and then seek Him to know Him from scripture. Seriously ponder God, believe for salvation and obedience because He is faithful in every way to His word, blessings and curses, healings and deliverance, peace and patience, love and joy and so forth ❤️

[@aarejaanus1394]

There is no god you silly:)

[@SherriP]

@@aarejaanus1394 God is real, He's alive and He is faithful, healer, savior, deliverer our faithful father and God.. He's loving and forgiving. He answers prayers 🙏. My life is proof of Him 🙏💖 the earth is proof of Him, it didn't make itself nor the contents. The sun, moon and stars are proof of Him 🙏🕊️🔥💖

[@salahaosamaelhoseneyali7019]

great

[@kennethhudson8013]

Knowing the Chinese minions, they would find a sneaky way to hack it

[@WendyHuNanNZ]

Tiny country but it is leading digital service in EU

[@muhsin_sultan]

Brb boutta immigrate to estonia

[@habibnurjaman2501]

good estonia

[@osemeosobase1487]

MARVELOUS. ALL THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES CAN QUICKLY ADAPT TO LEAP FROG CURRENT WASTES AND CHALLENGES

[@Alexe1.]

intersting

[@freethink]

Glad you liked it!

[@TempestasAurum]

Russia wants to know your location.

[@namanchauhan245]

that's it moving to Estonia 😂

[@muhammadalihassan]

Blockchain Technology !!!

[@professordrabhijitsayamber2299]

Om

[@andrewhaddick8955]

At least its not Albania.

[@freethink]

Just waiting for the pissed off Albanians rn

[@lombardo141]

Yes it works in smaller countries where everybody looks and speaks the same and pretty much have the same values. America is unlike any country in the world. It will never work this good.

[@Ulrich_dArth]

I'm sure each individual state would be small enough; a bunch of state-based systems being synchronised within federal standards could work country-wide IMO

[@lombardo141]

Ulrich d'Arth you missed my point on “homogeneous society “. America can’t see past its differences to allow something like this to work.

[@jonsouth1545]

Ah because America is the only multi-cultural and multi-ethnic society in the world, oh wait it isn't many others are much more ethnically or culturally diverse.

[@Newgodlove]

this is Jesus Christ of God Love New Earth Wave 🌎🔉🌊❤️😍🥰

[@jeanpaulfelix4095]

This is a great idea. This MUST be the future. I will accept a digital ID and I am (was) a strong opponent against it.

[@unpopuIaropinion]

Erm no thanks

[@realdripmeister]

Electronic voting is never a good idea

[@ronnieb.pardillojr.9132]

Hello classmates haha

[@deznutsz]

Hahahaa

[@long-timelistenerfirst-t-us2yy]

*uprated the video but this is **_OLD_** news lol*

[@eruno_]

🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪

[@90HardyA]

No way I’d ever want to live there

[@freethink]

To each their own! Why not?

[@looking_4_afair_game781]

Not going to matter unfortunately , All countries heading this way and with this Covid19 as a helper it's happening now. Your digital vax record is just the start.

[@fuqupal]

NWO propaganda!!

[@freethink]

*whispers into collar* they're on to us!

[@amandawilcox9638]

Fuqu Pal, you have 45 subscribers, one download about India, and a bunch of shooter and warfare downloads. Your functioning emotion appears to be unthinking anger. Why should anyone on Freethink pay attention to you?

[@Mythhammer]

@@freethink Never mind Comrade, we've already closed their account ^^