Zentimo + Hex = 49.8% winrate Zentimo + Volcano = 50% winrate that's interesting to say the least.
@YetAnotherYoutuber5 жыл бұрын
LuL
@benydavid12535 жыл бұрын
Usually Zentimo + Hex is used as last resort when your opponent has 4-7 big minions and you are behind and is not enough to turn the table. But Volcano usually is used when the HP of all minions on the field is 15 or less and you don't care about Zentimo dying (you just want to clear the board and you don't need triple value), because you have a game plan (at that time 99% of times Zentimo + Vocano got played was in Shudderwock Shaman, where you only need to survive to pull the combo and win)
@theonebutcher6775 жыл бұрын
Of course cubing a cube is really good. It means you've drawn both of your cubes!
@DLSacks5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not differentiating between cubing an empty cube, and popping out two win conditions.
@vincentpelletier575 жыл бұрын
@@DLSacks Indeed, I think cubing a cube is essentially an expensive way to trigger the first cube's deathrattle, which could lead to a win if it had eaten, say a King Krush.
@AnatnasL5 жыл бұрын
@@vincentpelletier57 pretty much the reason why Cubing a King Krush skyrockets the winrate to 86%. 24+ damage charge is pretty decent to finish games.
@hollycardinal52945 жыл бұрын
A 5 Mana 12/18 summon 2 of whatever you cubed last is, unsurprisingly, pretty good, most of the time you end up getting more value than THE DARKNESS as long as there’s literally anything in the first cube
@Mathmachine5 жыл бұрын
Give me charts, graphs, and data all day long and I'm a happy boy.
@SkipperinoHS5 жыл бұрын
0:52 watch 20:23 skip
@TheJosephoenix5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the skip! Saved me from looking for gameplay.
@jacobamroyan58075 жыл бұрын
I added a skipperino on hs was it really you? My name is GloriousOne
@juneace985 жыл бұрын
Cubing a cube triggers the first cube's deathrattle which is why it's so high. Not sure if I'm the only one who saw that.
@ZackBogucki5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I dunno how Kripp thought that cubing a cube was equivalent to cubing any decent-statted body... I also don't think he realizes how often people would have to play it without cubing anything to drag the card down to an overall 50-something% winrate if that WERE the case.
@mbrunkhorst38435 жыл бұрын
You can't just look at the win rates of cards when they're played to judge a card. Combo/finisher cards like Leeroy Jenkins have massive win rates when they're played because you only play them if you can win the game on that turn. This is why you have a 75% win rate for cubing a Doomguard and a 86% win rate for cubing a King Krush. Also, some cards are only played when you are winning on the board. This is why Zentimo into Rockbiter Weapon/Lesser Sapphire Spellstone/Earthen Might/Ancestral Healing/Unstable Evolution/Big Bad Voodoo have higher win rates than any of the other spells listed - You would only use those combos when you have several minions on the board. Additionally, Zentimo into Hex and cubing a Spider Bomb have low win rates because you generally use those combos when your opponent has several minions on the board.
@MidnightBloomDev5 жыл бұрын
Tavern brawl metrics are usually misleading. Most of the players don't even read the description and go full blind for the pack. Then back to arena
@admiraltonydawning38475 жыл бұрын
>most of the players >arena Choose one.
@TrimutiusToo5 жыл бұрын
Kripp underestimate popularity of Baku in Standard... That is main reason why 3 mana Ooze is run and not 2 mana one...
@JimDaMagik5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much exactly this, as it's not the main reason, but just about nearly the only reason. I can't think of any other valid one, except fresh F2P players who haven't unlocked rogue class yet (which unlocks the 2 mana ooze) but have gotten a 3 mana one from a pack.
@TrimutiusToo5 жыл бұрын
@@JimDaMagik other reason to run 3 mana ooze is actually Keleseth...
@JimDaMagik5 жыл бұрын
@@TrimutiusToo Well sure, it absolutely WAS. But Keleseth decks aren't really in meta right now. But on the other hand, you must be 100% correct for lower ranks and possibly wild as well (I don't know jack about it). Anyway, I think there's enough reason already there for me to stand corrected. Thanks man.
@Biyte5 жыл бұрын
14:17 ah the glutenous ooze, not okay to eat in your gluten-free diet, and 1 mana more expensive than the vanilla flavored ooze for 2 mana.
@AlecMunro5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@neiltolbert37005 жыл бұрын
he seems to have forgotten spell hunter runs both Zul'jin and Rhok'delar. I'd say there's a 99% chance that those lowest % cast spells were generated by the weapon, not put in the deck.
@clickbaiterinokripperino47445 жыл бұрын
LOOK AT THESE GRAAAAAAAAPHS!!! -> #ClickTheKripp
@crunchytoast60075 жыл бұрын
I feel like unstable evolution might be skewed because you cast it more the once
@nogaxeh65 жыл бұрын
"when you cube a cube, it's not even good" Kripp is missing something huge here; when you cube a cube, it means the first cube most likely ate something potentially good. So you use your second cube as an enabler for the first one, which is why the winrate is "sooooo good". Out of context the winrate seems too high, but when you think about it, it's not so crazy.
@ZackBogucki5 жыл бұрын
15:20 - High winrate on Corridor Creeper doesn't mean it should go into more decks, it means Odd Paladin is bonkers! It shows up almost exclusively in that deck, with a few appearances in Token Shaman, but if you're not flooding the board and pumping out tokens with your hero power, don't expect results anywhere near that high.
@ZackBogucki5 жыл бұрын
19:38 is another questionable correlation. No one's playing Avalanche in constructed, so the only time an Avalanche-Zentimo pairing shows up would be after playing Hagatha (or outliers like Haunted Visions), whereas Hex is already in your low-winrate deck. Makes it hard to tell if it legitimately a strong combo or if it exists only in game states where you're already more likely to win (eg. a Shudderwock deck that didn't get blown out before reaching its late game).
@admiraltonydawning38475 жыл бұрын
Goblin Prank had an OTK deck with Zul'Jin. It was rarely cast with Zul'jin without killing your opponent, so that's why the win-rate.
@changemankind5 жыл бұрын
"It's infographics like this one that LETTUCE understand…" 17:50 It's vegan language lmao
@voidgods5 жыл бұрын
The least cast spells by Zul'jin are ones probably generated by Rhok'delar. And some of them are indeed surprisingly good when combined with things like zombeasts! Shows how good spell hunter is
@ahawkone88505 жыл бұрын
In Re: A New Challenger, the other thing to keep in mind is that a less experienced player is more likely in a worse situation and looking for defensive options. A better player is more likely in a better situation and will be looking for a snowball. Also, a better player might see an opening to use a high attack card that a less experienced player would miss. So it isn't as cut and dried as "maybe higher attack is better"
@falseparagon5 жыл бұрын
For “Least Popular Spells Cast by Zul’jin”, I play Academic Espionage Rogue, and both times I recall getting Dinomancy and then later re-casting via Zul’jin were both games that I crushed my opponent. Might explain some weird spells on that list and why they had a better than expected win rate.
@unluckygamer6925 жыл бұрын
Also spells that were created by rhok delar can influence the stats.
@grrrama5 жыл бұрын
A couple issues with the analysis: Conclusion: New Challenger - picking higher attack is better. Issue: It is likely that people pick higher health when they are facing lethal and higher attack when they are pressing lethal. Conclusion: Bad Zuljin spells have high winrates and are surprisingly good. Also so many people are playing them/weird archetypes. Issue: Those are coming from Rhok'delar. The high winrate comes from still being in the game at turn 10, having Rhoked and played the spells.
@Oz18885 жыл бұрын
For the last one when you cube a cube it's usually not an "empty" cube it's just to make your 2 doomguards or 5/5 so that's why it's 70%
@kent51115 жыл бұрын
If you cube a cube you are in most cases getting its death rattle, which is why its good. Cubing a naked cube would be bad.
@Mr.Knubbles5 жыл бұрын
For the spells least cast by Zul'jin... I've played those spells as well because I've gotten them through Rhok'delar in Spell Hunter.
@bliggmusik5 жыл бұрын
Krippers my boi, the cube the cube isn t about spawning 2 cubes but a lot of the times its to spawn the minions stored in the first cube ( which might be 2 doomguards)
@mike-fb4fw5 жыл бұрын
cool video to watch during my last hour of work! always love seeing stuff like this
@andresperezchacon48955 жыл бұрын
Hey @Kripparrian , I enjoyed this video a lot, very interesting and helps us mortals XD to have a better perspective of the game. Please consider doing this as a mini-series maybe like once a month? Keep up the good work and have a good one.
@crunchytoast60075 жыл бұрын
The least played spells are probably just from rhockdlar
@SettTopsMe5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for linking hsreplay and not the reddit post, real helpful kripp
@forestskilbred94615 жыл бұрын
I once made a deck wrapping together Linecracker, GuruChicken, Holomancer, RegenThug, Mosh'ogg announcer, Priestess of Elune, and Arena Patron, because I just wanted to see how often my opponent's emoted. Pair the overkill minions with Rush, and it ain't so bad. Okay, it's still really bad.
@agr0nianTV5 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting. Some more arena stats would be nice like the most picked minions ect.
@intently5 жыл бұрын
I really like the recent new types of content, instead of only arena clips.
@ПавелМунтян-д8к5 жыл бұрын
Hey Kripp, you should keep in mind that you will cube the cube, only if you cubbed something before already, for example doom guard. I don't think someone will cube an empty cube ever at all.
@BenStarling5 жыл бұрын
Really informative video. Would love to see more content like this.
@whereisnokripperinointheth8375 жыл бұрын
On the Zentimo's frogs
@nemolilalu16475 жыл бұрын
Good video. But dont forgett that cubing a cube is a way of activating the deathrattle of the first cube.
@memkoz5 жыл бұрын
Zenkrippo is looking good!
@DedP1xT05 жыл бұрын
yeah let's watch some infographics
@summmarizerinokripperino6475 жыл бұрын
Kripp copies HSReplays homework.
@lesiegelad5 жыл бұрын
So should I invest in a Zilliax right now or should I save my dust for the next expansion?
@TheNewton5 жыл бұрын
15:46 Carnivorous cube stats just show that duplication mechanics are inherently broken and the rule of two needs to be more strict, possibly outright removing such things, in the game because the lack of drawbacks vs benefit is so ridiculously high.
@Art-zs6sl5 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff! Thanks
@frankbauerful5 жыл бұрын
They should add "Can not be targeted by spells" to Cube. What makes it broken is the ability to trigger your own Cube on the same turn with no counter play opportunity.
@brotherjohnwc5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy stuff like this, keep it up
@klxroly15 жыл бұрын
okay priest hero power is really good if you can put a trade off really well every turn healing your minions.
@MegaKGame5 жыл бұрын
Love these kinds of videos, keep them coming :D
@princepersona5 жыл бұрын
The Volcano + Zentimo combo is probably people confusing Volcano with Mage's Meteor spell.
@TrimutiusToo5 жыл бұрын
Corridor Creeper is just in Odd Paladin... and that archetype is insane...
@TheOblomoff5 жыл бұрын
I say - if cube had 0 attack, the effect would still be powerful enough to run in deathrattle and buff decks. With it having reasonable stats, the card value is insane!
@OHA975 жыл бұрын
That Gurubashi chicken stats is probably Famous Jake alone xD
@theshadynorwegian60365 жыл бұрын
Arena patron was the one win where a hunter got the all minions have rush minion against a violet worm and got arena patron.
@HeavyMetal-jy4vj5 жыл бұрын
Shaman shouldn't give up, I still think there has got to be a Zentimo deck to reign on ladder!
@ReganSpor5 жыл бұрын
I was playing Dinomancy and Quest with Zuljin.
@ReganSpor5 жыл бұрын
42% winrate overall though. Obviousy if you get to replay them with Zuljin then things are going pretty well anyway.
@TomHacks5 жыл бұрын
Marsh Queen + Goblin Prank + Play Dead + Zull, yepp... that was me. However not so much won though.
@BurningtreePoGo5 жыл бұрын
The least cast spells for Zuljin are such high win rate because they were generated by rhokdelar in spell hunter. Not because people played them in decks...
@aliasanonym97785 жыл бұрын
The Zuljin statistic actually hides some hilarity with the Dinomancy Recast. "Hell yeah, great hero card now I can deal 2 damage to minions AND the enemy hero if i wa... FUCK!!!"
@КірылПрыходзька5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, that's why Doomsayer says "The end is coming!"!!!
@Letsgo_NMIXX5 жыл бұрын
I want more content like this, but would prefer for arena.
@lapatjani31715 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@chaosmastermind5 жыл бұрын
Thijs did a game recently where he couldn't get anything good to cube in his rogue deck, so he just cubed his other cube, and then triggered the death rattle like twice, getting 5 cubes.. yeah it was broken as Hell. And even if you nether portal the board, he still respawns 2 more cubes.
@antiMatterDynamit5 жыл бұрын
spider bomb being the worst thing to cube is surprising
@sigurdhendsethyan56415 жыл бұрын
Well, when you cube a cube you might do it cause you know they dont have removal and the other cube had something inside it.
@masterplusmargarita5 жыл бұрын
Zentimo->Volcano is next level starts.
@hansoskar19115 жыл бұрын
The cube numbers seem heavily inflated. If you can cube any of these cards you are in a very good spot, but you can only do that if you're not dying at the moment. if you're on the brink of dying you are sometimes forced to play tempo cube without eating something. since you almost never beat Cube Hunter(the most important deck) by going over the top once you are in the position to cube on of the broken cards it is not so much the cube (though it represents a lot of value) but the position you are in. The games cube hunter loses is when it gets pressured early and never cubes anything meaningful.
@gwgoulinos5 жыл бұрын
If Arena Patron summoned a copy of the same card,things would've been VERY different.
@quadrophrenic5 жыл бұрын
I'm actually kinda surprised cube gets cubed more than charged devilsaur
@warptens56525 жыл бұрын
Kripp still doesn't understand that removal and aoe having bad played winrate is to be expected and doesn't mean the cards are bad
@AaronTheC5 жыл бұрын
warptens exactly because you’re often playing those when you’re behind anyways
@MoreCowbell1475 жыл бұрын
He's talked about this before, I believe in the Blast Wave vid, he does understand, I'm unsure why he neglects to mention it here
@warptens56525 жыл бұрын
In "how good is blast wave" he says the card is great at high wins but has a low winrate (he doesn't say which winrate) because it's bad against aggro at low wins. I'm pretty sure he simply doesn't understand. See 18:30.
@nickwelch14615 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong, but surely if playing the card ends up more often than not as a loss, then isn't it bad? As in removal cards should be good enough to win (as an average across all removal) around 50% of the time. As it is the meta means you often get overwhelmed anyway, but that still means they are bad cards.
@warptens56525 жыл бұрын
No, a card having
@oldpoppywasop50385 жыл бұрын
9:33 and it is. 36,6% is the pick rate, not the win rate. So there is that about the lesson there
@magicmanscott40k5 жыл бұрын
I lost to a chicken paladin deck. Turns out a one mana card plus blessing of kings is not bad
@WolfBergMenace5 жыл бұрын
Blast Wave is not good, It is ALRIGHT, i use it as a Dragons Fury activator and it does that pretty well^^ Also when you run Blast Wave most of the time your hand is full all the time. Meaning that getting even more cards is worse. The Ooze is so popular because it is Odd and seeing how odd mage and paladin were quite around, they were included there.
@duxwontobey48875 жыл бұрын
Sadly tho when i checked the site this morning it asked me about advertizing cookies, and as I tried to uncheck all of the cookies it just exited from the menu and gave me the cookies anyway, hsreplay better fix that lol
@tiagotaparelli5 жыл бұрын
I passed that along to our devs!
@duxwontobey48875 жыл бұрын
@@tiagotaparelli Thanks, I'd prefer you didn't use billions of cookies at all but I understand you have to run a site that I use for free :P
@AlexAlex-nm4qm5 жыл бұрын
8:24 taunt AND divine shield *
@drxd36595 жыл бұрын
Best chart, kripps old flow chart.. WILL THERE BE A CONTROL META...NO... It flows look..
@Silith135 жыл бұрын
Corridor Creeper is for like evolve decks.
@HighOverlordBeardo5 жыл бұрын
any time kripp gets near analytical data i feel my shaft harden slightly
@topdeckerrinokripperrino76915 жыл бұрын
Top: 0 Deck: 20, the least picked cards for a new challanger are really surprising to me. Mossy may have 7 health, but it's not that much, why give up 2 or 3 attack, for 2, or 3 health, when You have divine shield?
@DadTales5 жыл бұрын
Science + HearthStone -> “Automated playtesting in collectible card games using evolutionary algorithms: A case study in hearthstone”, Knowledge-Based Systems, Volume 153, 1.
@benydavid12535 жыл бұрын
Those infographics are just informative, not 100% accurate. If a bad deck use a good card, the stats for that card will go down. Of course removal spells like Hex, Brawl, have win rate under 50%, because usually you use them when you are behind and you won't use them when you are winning. Usually you use Brawl when your opponent has 4-6 minions on the field. Winrate when played alone, shows you nothing. You must compare it with the winrate of the deck that included that card.
@tjcamall5 жыл бұрын
Creeper winrate is from odd paladin
@samk80055 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 14:00 Glutenous Ooze would be disgusting :)
@shelbyreissman89025 жыл бұрын
10:30 Kripp repeatedly confuses spells cast after created by Rhok'delar with spells that were included in decklists.
@djafar6995 жыл бұрын
i don't think you play on curve cube just to cube it... it has that winrate because it already cubed one of the other high winrate powerfull card when cubed.
@Keksuchen12975 жыл бұрын
That Zul´jin card came all from Rohkdelar
@topdeckerinokripperino61355 жыл бұрын
Topdeck of the game: big stats = quick mafs
@betorodolpho5 жыл бұрын
People don't play goblin prank and the other trash spells in their decks, they cast it because rhok'delar draws.
@akselhansen3045 жыл бұрын
Krip correlation doesn't equal causation!
@TrimutiusToo5 жыл бұрын
You need to understand that Rhok'delar is a thing Kripp... so Zul'jin would play weird stuff that the weapon gave you...
@sander85815 жыл бұрын
People played play dead and dynomancy because the spell hunter weapon generates it
@TheFlashohol5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is the audio just a bit off?
@Danmagermoret5 жыл бұрын
Zentimo Kripperino PogChamp
@PcBrEaK3R5 жыл бұрын
Check the stats for popularity of Jaina before and after they nerfed her , pls.
@jonathanlui9305 жыл бұрын
We should rally together and give Arena Patron the play rate it deserves!
@yangould87815 жыл бұрын
Yup! I enjoy.
@ExKiwi-yw8er5 жыл бұрын
those must be cards that actually Did see play, there's no way arena patron saw less play than gurubashi offering. Serpent ward? Dozing Marksman???
@superstarDJ5375 жыл бұрын
Isn't Kripp the Arena Patron? :)
@NezzFtw5 жыл бұрын
King Krush... itty six!
@michaelfellner98225 жыл бұрын
regeneration thug that bad? whut? i drafted it a couple times now, also having it in my Arena run atm (10-2 with rogue ), and its Always doing a good Job. rn its actualy insane bcuz ye i did draft a bunch of buffs, it almost singley handely won me a game earlier.
@Andreych955 жыл бұрын
Hey Kripp, why wont you play MTGArena?
@eduard4765 жыл бұрын
Arena Patreon should have summoned 2 patreons.
@MultiArtartart5 жыл бұрын
how the hell can you 17.7% cube the doomguard lel
@sindrimyr49385 жыл бұрын
Holly cow that is *abysmal*
@chloricoyster105 жыл бұрын
Yet another video where Kripp doesn't know the constructed meta. Him being surprised that Master's Call had a high % play rate shows just that. Midrange hunter is one of the top decks and thats the best card in that deck