The Most Bizarre Fighting Game Franchise Of All Time

Dead or Alive is a fighting game franchise that many see as a gimmick. In a landscape of series like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter, Dead or Alive should have been Dead on Arrival. But 20 years later, the franchise that gave us "Jiggle Physics" is still one of the most popular fighting games out there. Dead or Alive and it's spin offs may not be for everyone, but their fan base is beyond dedicated.
#deadoralive6 #deadoralive #nerdstalgic
Written by Dave Baker
Edited by David Sadvari

[@eropandasennin13]

Honestly the franchise's biggest problem today is how it's DLC is being handled.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Wow, it looks like that other thread we were on got deleted.

[@eropandasennin13]

@@dalekrenegade2596 That happens sometimes.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@eropandasennin13 A whole thread though? And it happens when we were calling out those "anti-wokes" guys.

[@DanArnets1492]

*its DLC

[@eropandasennin13]

@@DanArnets1492 Here's your cookie sir.

[@geraldhenderson8474]

It had breakable backgrounds, as well as multilevel arenas. It was revolutionary.

[@berryindahouse]

Something i would love to see in modern Mortal Kombat too. It‘s such a great idea.

[@Love-Sensibility]

I love the part where if you kick or punch your opponent so hard they jump out to the bottom and you jump too. Certainly unique~

[@poopyfartboi]

Dude what? I've known about DOA for a long time as that titty game but THAT makes me want to go download it and check it out rn more than anything!! As a kid those were both my dream mechanics for fighting games

[@poopyfartboi]

​@berryindahouse I just started playing mk4 for the first time and I'm having a blast with it outside of that classic 90s difficulty lol. Good thing there are save states for noobs like me

[@RARufus]

DOA 3 is one of the best fighting games of its day. The multi level arenas were just fantastic and it had a ton of extra modes and content to weave through. Very spectacular game!

[@TheRealHoodedGeek]

This is a weird franchise, but its nowhere NEAR the most bizarre fighting game. Not by a long shot

[@aegisreflector1239]

Agreed, Power Instinct for example is a million times more bizarre.

[@vinsent2013]

Not bizarre. But probably the best looking 3d fighting game and have that title for a while. The fighting is good, fast, lore is ok, it's a good piece of art, the fan service is a bonus

[@bobtomia]

It's his first fighting game. Let him dream.

[@aegisreflector1239]

The fighting games Jojo's Bizarre Adventure are also, well bizarre, and well done. Those are great fighting games and A LOT more interesting and of course bizarre than DOA

[@vinsent2013]

@@SnakeInTheRain one of the first 420p, 720p hd 3d fighter? Here it took 8 tekkens where as DOA 2 look good but DOA 3 look real good, at the time I never seen anything look this good and play fast, it was a first to me. Tekken 6 came close to DOA 3,4 graphics but I think they finally caught up til Tekken 7, but Tekken got good gameplay

[@lukeamparo6586]

Correction: Americans don’t like sexualization in certain media. Music Videos and ads however seem fine.

[@Lightna]

Companies don't like it because of the dreaded AO rating. A lot of people do not care otherwise

[@MrAjking808]

A lot of isn’t needed.. it’s cringe especially for fictional characters

[@TheRoleplayer40k]

@@MrAjking808 You're cringe.

[@MrAjking808]

@@TheRoleplayer40k that tells me you don’t talk to real women 😂

[@sjue316]

@@MrAjking808 The average woman doesn’t play games and the ones that do don’t have a problem with it. Maybe you don’t talk to real women.

[@smok3ywuff784]

Euphoria: *has excessive nudity scenes of teenagers* Modern audience: “This is fine” Dead or Alive: *has fan service and attractive female characters in bikinis* Modern Audience: “ThiS iS WrOnG!!!”

[@theguy6787]

MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD🔥

[@poopyfartboi]

I think it's people's view of the audience that's the problem. Like a hypothetical person in this scenario could think of Euphoria's viewerbase as mostly women/teens so they don't kind THEM being exposed to that. But God forbid those greasy middle aged nerds see big tiddy 4D physics on screen! Idk, I'm just drubk talking shit but I might have a point, I can't tell

[@user-vi4xy1jw7e]

You're going off the assumption that there's overlap in people being okay with Euphoria, but not DOA. I've seen plenty of people say "THIS IS WRONG!" about Euphoria.

[@user-vi4xy1jw7e]

​@@jehuty1122Of course they wouldn't. People who play DOA are playing it because of the fan service.

[@smok3ywuff784]

@@user-vi4xy1jw7e Not as much as the video games.

[@spongebobfan78]

9:08 This is the thought that always comes to my mind whenever people react to Japan's censorship of gore. They'll be like "Japan is stupid for having so much tentacles and anime girls but are scared of blood and guts", but fail to realize that other places, especially America, allows extreme violence yet screams like a banshee and cry for censorship when a fictional, not-realistic, and hyperstylized anime girl have their cleavage exposed a little bit.

[@OliverNorth9729]

The U.S. is cucked.

[@iAmNothingness]

America.

[@Ramsey276one]

I wonder if the Japanese think it's "weird" USA movies are mostly explosions and bloody Violence

[@MrInuhanyou123]

The issue with doa6 was it's outrageous predatory dlc schemes which killed the whole franchise. I didn't mind them trying to make it a bit more reigned in as a series veteran in terms of bouncing boobs, but when your telling me I have to pay every time I want to just change my characters hair color from one color to the other, and pay 100 dollars for just one season pass of costumes, the people in charge have clearly lost the plot

[@MoldMonkey93]

It was honestly the fighting system which hard-core players weren't all excited for.

[@hyliannerd4541]

Exactly, thank you. DLC is very expensive in both games.

[@vanitysfantasy6233]

@@hyliannerd4541 no the fuck it wasn’t as a player that’s been playing the game since 2014 I can assure u the dlc was 1.99- 2.99 for do5- last round then that other game ruined the whole dlc thing because play station told them they take up to much space in the store that’s why they do those tickets now

[@hyliannerd4541]

@Vanity's Fantasy but still, I really don't wanna spend lots of money on DLC. I apologize for not doing my research on DOA5 but still, I really dislike DLC that costs too much as well as loot boxes.

[@eropandasennin13]

@@vanitysfantasy6233 Uh, last time I checked all the DLC in DoA 5 combined is over 500 dollars. That's pretty insane.

[@dances_with_incels]

I still don't get this problem with sex appeal in video games

[@CrystalMang0]

Dude, a game can have sex appeal, but having to much can have negative affects

[@dances_with_incels]

@@CrystalMang0 no it doesn't. Body shaming is never okay

[@JcgLounge]

I used to have a problem with it. Then I just kinda stopped caring too much.

[@dreamydreams2694]

the problem is when you instead of making a game WITH fanservice, it turns into a fanservice with a random fighting game, look at street fighter, they are not scary making fanservice for their last game, why? because is a game WITH fanservice, they would never release a game like DOA xtreme, SNK tried with kof frenzy and it was a complete failure.

[@dances_with_incels]

@@dreamydreams2694 kof frenzy was just a bad game. I liked the fan service aspect. But the game play is just way too weird.

[@NeoKokoro20]

You know, every fighting game franchise seems to have their "thing." For DOA, it's sex appeal. For Street Fighter, it's projectile attacks. For Mortal Kombat, it's blood and gore. For Tekken, it's long movesets. For Soul Calibur, it's weapons. For KOF, it's 3-on-3 fighting. For Virtua Fighter, it's deep fighting. For Bloody Roar, it's animal morphing. And so and so forth.

[@baziworld]

said the word right out of my mind(mk so much controversial ,especially mk9 with tones of bikin customes, and super violence or some other older mk games in ps2,and when they decided to torn it off, mk vs dc happends, so the answer is no, mk must have violence, and doa musthave some customes like that, but they can control it to level that everyone can enjoy these games)

[@user-me2hi4zp5z]

Still, DOA is the worst 🤣

[@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483]

@@user-me2hi4zp5z weird way to spell best, nothing beat sex appeal:)

[@thewinner4319]

​@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 THE WINNER agrees 👍

[@kaitoracing9391]

@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 Huge W

[@kyanidee]

Me and my girl absolutely love this fighting game franchise. I myself am a huge fighting game fanatic, playing everything from Virtua Fighter to Brawlhalla, if that's even considered a fighting game, but my girl refuses to play any other fighting game with me due to how good I've gotten at them, but for some reason, no matter how much I try, I can't beat her at this game, no matter how much I study. (current record is 64-20 in her favor..) The mechanics of this game are so cool, from the stuns forcing a 4 way mixup between highs, mids, lows, and grabs, to it's complex but super fun juggle system, you never NOT have a unique interaction. Overall such a fun ass game, in my opinion.

[@krustygraze189]

Both the juggle system and the jiggle system are top tier

[@StunningSilken]

​@@krustygraze189😂😂😂

[@KenSan1414]

​@@krustygraze189 indeed

[@shamimaramannan375]

Yea I mean playing with one hand while ur girl has 2 is harder of

[@TheSinlessAssassin]

@@krustygraze189 this comment is only made better by your name

[@LINKchris87]

The thing that DoA has always stood out for me is the fluidity of the combat, the counter/hold system and the interaction with the stages. Having pretty babes ( who are only 50% of the cast) is just the cheery on top.

[@quatjohn4375]

I think critics mostly focus on the babes. The point of the game was the whole package to deliver a visually appealing game that was fun to play so the babes were part of the visually appealing aspect. As in equal parts was consistent frame rates and motion capture

[@omarjimenezromero3463]

i want a kof game with doa graphics, that would be awesooooome, at least we have kula diamond and mai shiranui as guests to the game, if only the nintendo switch game of gals of kof had at least doa5 graphics will be great. Ahh yes i like the fighting style it drops, it is basically rock scissors paper but at a fighting game, it is pretty fast and you can do an easy combo without trying to play moonlight sonata pathetique with your control at a church in rome, the only a button combos are pretty confy if you want only to smash buttons, or you can do the traditional long combo with a lot of combinations, cancel movement and the new breakers move, i hope in a future we have an "easy button mode" for every fighting game, like the easy combo control from street fighter 6, i hope tekken some day do something like that, and kof too.

[@TechNinjaSigma]

Wait, DoA was the Father of Counters AND Jiggle Physics?!

[@sjue316]

Yes it was.

[@melficexd]

No, only jiggles, but made counters a general ability for all fighters, not some selected ones. Virtua Fighter 2 had already counters and Dead or Alive began essentially as a mod of vf2

[@AlbertBalbastreMorte]

​@@melficexdas a mod of vf2? Can you tell me more?

[@enrique7934]

@@AlbertBalbastreMorte He's talking outta his ass. That's not true. DOA was asked to be made like VF but that's it. It also was on the same arcade board.

[@SevenlivesDesigns]

I believe Soul Edge/Blade may have had them first. Taki.

[@SlvrWlf88]

Still one of my favorite series. The juggle and different attacks patters mixed with the instant counters for those trying to span or just the ability to read before they do anything…just cursed with the extra, I mean idgaf I love the tit physics and sexualizarion…the dlc thing is it’s biggest problems

[@staticshock4239]

I just hate the absurd amount of DLC Dead or Alive has now and the pricing of them. That honestly killed the series for me. That and it seemed like Dead or Alive 6 didn't have the passion to it that previous games had it.

[@vanitysfantasy6233]

Dlc in doa 5 was 1.99 wtf ? Are y’all talking about the dlc is expensive where are y’all even from

[@thedarkderp2520]

​@Vanity's Fantasy oh yes how convenient of you to ignore the 16 season passes full of nothing but cosmetics that cost more than the base game itself it's egregious and it dug doa's grave but you go ahead and live in your fantasy world where it's fine

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

@@vanitysfantasy6233 why are you defending this so much? Do you realize how much it would cost to buy every piece of dlc for 6? It’s insanity. Us old school fans of this game loved having all the costumes by unlocking them. They were all on the disc. Now you’d have to pay an arm and a leg for everything

[@vanitysfantasy6233]

@@chiarosuburekeni9325 I’m talking about do5 not 6 lmao but okay

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

@@vanitysfantasy6233 oh

[@CrimsonNinja001]

I hope this video gets many views. We need DOA to come back with better DLC practices.

[@StunningSilken]

Exactly

[@vanitysfantasy6233]

Y’all talking about the dlc still that’s not why doa 6 failed it’s really because people in the main fan base didn’t like the game play …

[@vanitysfantasy6233]

Why would u make a game easier for knew players when the game was never hard in the 1st place

[@CrimsonNinja001]

@@vanitysfantasy6233 No you have a point as well. The overall game design was a slight step back from what DOA5 was doing. Also the direction of the game flipping between straying from its identity (core values) to trying to maintain it up until launch, due to some fan backlash, lack of game modes…etc - yeah there’s various levels as to why the game failed. The egregious DLC that carried over and was double downed from DOA5, plus people’s growing awareness of it between the release of those games hurt it a lot too. Clearly Team Ninja relied too much on those DLC sales to see higher profit on the overall game. Rather than just focusing on giving people what they wanted and then some.

[@vanitysfantasy6233]

@@CrimsonNinja001 FAIR and correct assessment I’ll give u that one cuz we can’t just blame the dlc cuz as soon as i pressed one button to counter anything I almost threw up

[@Sjono]

While Dead or Alive 6 toned down its sexual content, Soul Calibur VI toned it up and succeeded way more. Street Fighter and King of Fighters also toned up the sex appeal and achieve far more success as well, with them even being featured in EVO nowadays Dead or Alive seems to be having an identity crisis

[@sjue316]

DOA tried to be tournament friendly. Which basically was a middle finger to anyone that loved the series for what it was. Then put all the sexy costumes behind expensive DLC packages. It wasn’t a good move for them.

[@ashchisalleh1454]

Team ninja seem learn lesson by ignore so call Evotard and seem slowly back to og fanservice.

[@elmono6299]

Well I wouldn't say Street Fighter and King of Fighters tone down the sex appeal as the gentlemen at both Capcom and SNK are still perverted and their recent games are no exception. King of Fighters has alot of their busty babes such as Mai Shiranui, Angel, and Blue Mary and for Street Fighter 6, just take a look at Cammy's new outfit and pose to get an idea.

[@Sjono]

@@elmono6299 I clearly said Street Fighter and King of Fighters *toned up the sex appeal*

[@elmono6299]

@@Sjono sorry about that. I miss read it.

[@LEGNDARY_MIST]

Most Disrespected, Most Underrated 3D fighting game franchise next to Virtua Fighter. It doesn't help that the developers nowadays don't even try their best to make a completely game either that isn't rushed, let's hope to a better future for the franchise moving forward. DOA7 or Reboot, whatever better take notes from Street Fighter 6, Tekken 8 at the moment and soon MK12 as well and get new developers cuz the one's right now you can tell don't care about the franchise other than just milking money out of people's pockets.

[@StunningSilken]

Exactly

[@2bornot2b255]

America MK11: Rips off face and dunks it😇😇😇 DOA: Honokas oppai jiggle physics 🤬🤬😡😡 Me: visual confusion

[@angelchang5194]

I actually do like the fighting mechanics in Dead Or Alive. I don't mind looking like lil pervert. Game is worth it lol😊

[@StunningSilken]

Indeed 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂

[@mrsamuel5572]

It is worth it

[@danielwilliams3161]

That's what I'm saying like the 1st time I played this game ps 3 it was free it was a game that was fighting that was fighting and I tried it out and it was absolutely awesome right and literally the only one and literally the only reason why I know about this game in the 1st place was because some girl at my college was playing this game on b**** was playing this game on her nintendo freedom alright and that's how I So I played the game and it was a good game it's the weather good game and I played it they're close but fine it was just we know women fired and it was cool until I got to the other outfits and then I was like oh this is something interesting but even besides that it was that is that it was a great game it's a great game still it's a great game it's such stand it's been altered People's ideologies

[@bananasean5145]

DOA4 had the best online lobbies for any fighter ever! So sad they abandoned it.. Everyone had their own lobby which you could run around with all kinds of Avatars emotes voice chat and text. You could customize your room and unlock more Avatars and cosmetics for them. There was a TV showing the matches and you could sit and watch or join.

[@ChrisCarlos64]

I miss some of the creative systems for online games during the Xbox/360 era of fighting games. Now it's all streamlined and so simplistic because it all just bog downs to menus. I loved the lobby stuff in DOA 4. I'd get money, buy new things, change my avatar, chat with some peeps, wait my turn for a match while chatting about stuff, and that was it> it was just fun to explore and made the environment so much more casual and fun to engage with. Now a days, you just hit a couple buttons and you get thrown into a match, then you leave or get a rematch.

[@presoulz5718]

I think its the best lobby system in any fighting game ever. It was so fun and ahead of its time.

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

@@presoulz5718 Agreed

[@alexmaganda5827]

@@presoulz5718 yep

[@locjake7230]

@@ChrisCarlos64 this comment!!!!!!! The era of the 360 was so creative compared to now

[@DeepestDankest]

Even before DoA 6 kind of shit the bed between trying to appease a group of people who were never going to play the game to begin with and its loyal fans, DoA5 started the whole "please take us seriously" phase of the franchise. The promotional ad campaign was "I am a fighter" and it tried to be a lot more serious than just "bouncing tits and panty flashes: the fighting game" but then they rolled back on that angle because DoA5 is utterly infamous for its sheer amount of sexy DLC outfits as well as introducing three of its most fanservice-oriented characters. Then 6 came out looking like a less substantial version of 5 with things taken out of it. Also the faces of the franchise shifting away from Kasumi to Marie Rose and Honoka probably sealed the coffin too, along with the Beach Volleyball pursuit. It's funny to me, as an outsider looking in, because DoA's gacha game takes out the middle man of the fighting game getting in the way of looking at girls and dressing them up in photo mode and is still massively successful. It reached the pure essence of what it was trying to sell to its audience before without the fighting game part and the "fans" seem receptive to it, for better or for worse. And let me remind others that Marie Rose was made in response to Sweden banning the release of a DoA game and Itagaki was like "make our next character a Swedish girl who's 18 but looks 13" just to rip on Sweden, hell, they made Marie's birthday National Sweden Day, what a guy. Also I'd wager Arcana Heart is a bizarre-er fighting game franchise.

[@bulletproofman323]

Itagaki was out of the picture right after 4 released and had nothing to do with 5, which was Marie Rose's introduction to the series.

[@arbsan8366]

@@bulletproofman323 yeah Itagaki had nothing to do with those anime lolicons Marie and Honoka. Itagaki himself said he felt DOA5 ruined the franchise

[@seapeajones]

That's a lot of words to say you beat it to a game.

[@spacewargamer4181]

​@@arbsan8366 The oversexualization did, no doubth

[@kaisarr7632]

@@seapeajones lol

[@Leukick]

The thing I realized I LOVE about DOA over other fighting games is that the character models actually HIT each other in combat, which makes the combat much more satisfying... Most other fighting games the characters don't actually touch, there is a gap in between them and the gap is usually covered up by massive bursts of colored energy sparks and such

[@StunningSilken]

VF hits their opponents too if you're referring to 3D in particular.

[@Leukick]

@@StunningSilken Thanks for letting me know that, I'll check it out

[@StunningSilken]

@@Leukick Welcome

[@ii-ii-ii-ii-ii]

👏👏👏

[@baxterstocksandbondsman6321]

​@@Leukickwhat game(s) were you referring to?

[@nightssega4260]

the doa 2 being shoved out thing was about the ps2 port of doa 2. every single version of doa 2, even different regions had additional/changed content. the ps2 port was pretty barebones and more unfinished than normal. if you want the actual most bizarre fighting game series, look into Power Instinct lol.

[@StunningSilken]

I love Power Instinct 😂😂😂😂

[@skywardgaze]

Personally the thing that ruined Dead or Alive for me the most was the new addition to the combat that all the main fighting games have now because of Mortal Kombat's success. Even though its technically different in DOA6. The addition of Fatal Stun attacks and Break attacks has just ruined the gameplay in my opinion. It feels like it was added to help players even the odds when they are getting owned. Kind of like the bone breaker move in Mortal Kombat 9, 10, & 11, and the critical edge + Soul Charge moves in Soul Calibur 6. This kinda stuff ruins these games for me. I feel its an unnecessary addition and makes the combat less fun. The other thing that is ruining it, to me, is the reselling of old characters instead of just including them day one. I don't mind paying for DLC characters, but it gets a bit scummy when its characters that existed in previous games from the start. Not to mention the sheer amount of DLC costumes and lack of actual in-game earned ones. I know all the fighting games do this to some degree, but DOA is especially egregious with it. It all just feels so predatory and less like they care about making a good fighting game and more about scamming you out of your money. However... it IS optional, still feels messed up. The lack of game modes kinda is disappointing as well. Story Mode is great, Survival is great, but the lack of like Tag Team, maybe some kind of innovation like how Tekken offers Tekken Force mode (a beat em up style mode), or bowling. Mortal Kombat has offered things like Chess and Motor Kombat (Kart Racing) as well as a full on open world-like story mode. It would just be neat to see Dead or Alive do something like that even if it were simply combining Beach Volleyball with the main series. Also, yes, downgrading the sex appeal of the characters hurts the game as well. Its more the principle of the thing. Don't give in to the censors and easily offended people. Make the game you wanted to make. Them trying to please the people who don't even wanna play their game is just sad and makes me lose respect for them. I'd feel the same way towards Mortal Kombat is they tried to tone down the gore, and also think MK's toning down of the sex appeal has been cowardly. That all being said, here's hoping KoeiTecmo will make DOA great again whenever they make DOA7. It would be great to see DOA back in the spotlight again. It is one of the better fighting game franchises in my opinion.

[@eropandasennin13]

You know, R34 exists. That might come in handy.

[@andresavendano9266]

Your comment is all I expect from DOA7. Get the series back to it's roots, preserve it's play-style by getting rid of the meter nonsense, include all the game modes and characters fans are accustomed to and maybe adding the volleyball stuff to the base game just for fun's sake. Honestly that's why I like these games, pure casual silliness with a great fighting system underneath.

[@morganandrew-morganson8276]

I would love to get a new installment of DOA; it's one of my favorite fighting game franchises. Hopefully if/when they make a new game, it has rollback netcode.

[@jaydee6675]

Team Ninja said in a press conference few months ago that they're rebooting both Ninja Gaiden and DOA after they're done with their initial projects

[@BeeLy1011]

@@jaydee6675 Unfortunately they later said it was "misinformation"

[@BakiX]

DOA5 was absolutely fantastic. Introducing some of the Virtua Fighter staff into the mix made the entire project feels as thought it finally came full circle. DOA 6 on the other hand is what I think really sank the ship.

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

I HATED DOA5... So bleak

[@davidback2144]

It bothered me that they just reused the voice lines from VF5 instead of re recording.

[@jp3813]

DOA5 is the first of the franchise to have Mai Shiranui as a guest character. Perfect!

[@rookless4121]

DOA 2 is one of the greatest games ever! I remember clearly beating my brother multiple rounds with just only reversals and grabs. Everyone raged so much it was a great time! Though the sexuality controversy seems a bit hypocritical especially with how the new Street fighter characters look these days.

[@NihilistSolitude]

Doa5 and 6 was the slide down because of the insane amount of micro transactions

[@Rationalific]

I think the DOA series (up to and including 4, at least) is stellar (and my favorite 3D fighting game series of all time), and sex was never a major consideration (and there's also no gory violence anyway...unlike Mortal Kombat, etc). I did love the looks of it overall, as well as the gameplay. It's so fluid and relatively simple yet versatile. The ability to predict someone else's move and reverse it was literally a game-changer, that elevated it for me past Virtua Fighter (and Tekken, which I wasn't into anyway for various reasons - two being that King and others would just keep comboing me and I couldn't do anything, and also the infinite stages). DOA2 had the most interesting multi-layer stages of any fighting game, and again, the reversals made people have to be creative and not use the same combo over and over again like in Tekken. Even though sex was not the primary factor for me, I did love the multitude of free and interesting costumes. These days, they are for sale. And I don't like their "more realistic" faces in recent games. I like the somewhat anime-ish look.

[@versatilelord8893]

You can’t win spam the same combos in tekken and expect to win. It just doesn’t happen. You can’t get knowledge checked in doa the same that you can in tekken. You clearly don’t play tekken lol

[@Rationalific]

@@versatilelord8893 I don't play Tekken, namely for the reasons above. And I'm not saying that you can spam the same exact thing and expect to win because the other person will never be able to find a way to avoid/punish your same exact hit you always start with. However (to my knowledge), like almost any other fighting game, once you are IN a combo in a Tekken game, the combo can be finished (and some can be long and devastating). In DOA, there are really no such things as combos. There are strings that can yield impressive results. However, if you get the first hit and then continue with the same exact string multiple times in a row, then you can be countered DURING the combo. Thus, you can never take the next hit for granted. That's good for some, and bad for others, but that is my point.

[@agt_pendergast8899]

I really liked the fighting system of DOA games, how smooth the controls are, the levels are just insane and the tag team mode is a heck of a lot of fun. I don't mind the fan-service, although it is kind of annoying that it seems like that's all its known for nowadays.

[@versatilelord8893]

When you don’t have a good lore foundation which doa lacks it’s no wonder they rely so heavily on sex appeal

[@Shin-iv6yc]

@@versatilelord8893 Let's be real: If it wasnt for Chun-Li's and Cammys overdrawn "thiccness", Street Fighter 6 would have been way worse received. 90% of the SF6 youtube shorts are either about some new sexy nexusmod or Cammys ass. Let's not pretend that Capcom's fighting game would be just as successful if their female fighters weren't sexy.

[@wangtoriojackson4315]

Come for the videogame franchise history, stay for the sunglasses puns.

[@radicaledwards3449]

There is no way on earth that DOA is the most bizarre

[@personaphantom5543]

Not when Fighters Megamix exists.

[@radicaledwards3449]

@@personaphantom5543 I'm sure there are better examples than that

[@personaphantom5543]

@@radicaledwards3449Darkstalkers and Bloody Roar?

[@radicaledwards3449]

@@personaphantom5543 Thats more like it

[@radicaledwards3449]

@@personaphantom5543 Killer instinct, clay fighter, any of the mortal kombat games

[@MasakanSolaris]

Simple answer? No. Its as you said, Westerners on average are perfectly fine with blood, gore and brutality and have no qualms showing it to their kids. But for some reason show em a pair of boobs and they lose their ever loving minds. (An issue i've always had with western society) Trying to be more gritty and violent not only will not appeal to westerners who if they know about the series have already made up their minds, but will upset the people who DO like DoA for its sex appeal. They are trying to play both sides and are going to end up shelving the franchise for good as far as fighting games are concerned. Koei Tecmo needs to accept that DoA IS Sex Appeal, and they need to stop trying to make it something it isn't.

[@eropandasennin13]

Meh, plenty of fighting games today have sex appeal. The problems are it's spinoffs, the DLC and never hittimg it big as other 3D fighting games from around the same time.

[@develish1111]

Oh they've already accepted it.... By killing the fighting part of the game. DOA6 hasn't had an update since 2020, but Xtreme Venus Vacation still gets at least monthly content.

[@zelohendricks51]

@MugenTako well...one is a fighting game, one is a gacha game

[@develish1111]

@@zelohendricks51 exactly my point lmao. They've abandoned the fighting game part of doa entirely for gacha hell

[@zelohendricks51]

@MugenTako well they made bad moves with DOA6 and effective killed the franchise. Gacha appeals to more people in general as well

[@Lowlight23]

It’s interesting that the Jack-o & Cammie poses from other fighting games have filled the gap Dead or Alive has left behind. 😅

[@fernicusmaximus9282]

We can't have DOA Xtreme 4 nowadays because the big corporations, lesbians, feminists, and soy boys will throw a fit.

[@Randomgames97]

based Tifa

[@BeeLy1011]

DOA got me into the FGC and to this day it's the fighter I've put the most time and effort into, "dead game" or not. It truly is the most misunderstood fighting game of all time.

[@pdraggy]

yeah I can't believe NOBODY mentioned Ninja Gaiden until I did EIGHT MONTHS LATER!! Hayabusa IS Ninja Gaiden wth bunch of casuals.

[@cyberbird451]

Sexuality over extreme violence any day, rather be called a perv than a psychopath...just look at how much violence is in America and the sad thing is dead or alive could get rid of the jiggle physics and have their women being ripped apart and Americans would be totally fine with it...

[@develish1111]

Big DOA fan here since I picked up the game with 5 Ultimate. It's the game that got me into fighting games. There are just as many things the series does right as it does wrong. The free to play system they introduced in 5U was revolutionary for the genre. I'd argue 5LR was still the best looking 3D rendered fighting game all the way up until Street Fighter 6 and Tekken 8. Then they added the insane DLC. 6 was one step forward five steps back. They tried to make the game more mainstream, but failed badly thanks to a release state worse than SFV with the nearly $100 season pass available right from day one, with two characters (my two mains, I was not happy about that) being locked behind preorder/deluxe edition. The new engine didn't really look as good as the old one, despite the higher detail. It was also disrespected by not even being in the Evo roster for 2019 (though the series hadn't been to Evo since 4).

[@ryantheanimator1156]

Tecmo really needs to stop pandering to the overly sensitive Western, specifically Twitters and game journals. Also it's always ironic the very same people that complain about fan-service in DOA are the very same people that would thirst over sexy male characters in anime and video games, always a bunch of hypocrites.

[@eropandasennin13]

Sounds super believable.

[@sjue316]

@@eropandasennin13 Because it is.

[@eropandasennin13]

@@sjue316 Only in one's own delusions.

[@sjue316]

@@eropandasennin13 so yours

[@eropandasennin13]

@@sjue316 Not really dude when you think about.

[@FupaDoncic]

The creator looks exactly what I imagined he’d look like.

[@LeeoGoneWild]

It’s the best fighting franchise out of all fighting games, amazing and gorgeous characters, maps, and loved the fighting mechanics with the amount of counters and grabs. It’s unfortunate they tried going a more “serious” route in 6 and removed all of the fun stages.

[@versatilelord8893]

Don’t know about the best fighting game franchise but it is good tho. The reversal mechanics (even tho I think it’s way too strong at least in doa 4) really make up for the games really bad movement. While doa doesn’t have much going in terms of lore the cast is still cool they’ve always had great stages

[@saynotop2w]

Gorgeous, sure, but amazing? I don’t know. This is what the typical motivation for them fighting is like: “you forgot to invite me to your party” “you need to clean your laundry” “let me have a bite of your lunch” etc

[@LeeoGoneWild]

@@saynotop2w gorgeous and amazing.

[@KenSan1414]

Honestly, I like this game a lot. Despite of people saying that we only play for the boobas or so, the game system is very unique and has a frenetic action. Plus the fanservice, it mades a top tier fighting game

[@StunningSilken]

Right

[@DanArnets1492]

I love how this video completely ignores the incredibly sexualized females (and some males) on EVERY OTHER FIGHTING GAME EVER - The main difference between DoA and SF, Tekken, KoF, Soul Calibur and such is the honesty and how unapologetic it all is

[@eropandasennin13]

And that's why they ignored it.

[@SoggyHotDoggy]

In all seriousness, are we actually gonna pretend that any of those series play up the sex appeal the same way DoA does?? I don’t have an issue with it, but let’s not act like there isn’t a CLEAR difference there. We never got a Mortal Kombat Xtreme Beach Volleyball for a reason.

[@eropandasennin13]

@@SoggyHotDoggy We should have gotten a Cooking with Scorpion game instead.

[@renatopinto3186]

Even when Tekken had a volleyball mode the cast wouldn't show up half naked 😂

[@UGNPFU]

Koei Tecmo announced quite some time ago that DOA7 was cancelled indefinitely after the failure of DOA6. Meanwhile DOAX3 is going stronger than ever with updates.

[@BeeLy1011]

That was proven false like months ago

[@KenMasters.]

The most bizarre fighting game was truly Clay Fighter.

[@AlynRapi]

Dead or alive has the hardest hitting visual and sound design of any 3d fighting game imo Other 3d fighters just look too smooth or try to sound too realistic, which other people might appreciate more than i do, but i prefer when it's so hard hitting you recoil when you look back

[@javiersoriano671]

For DOA7 or at least its reboot I hope they provide DLC at a more fair price. In the next game there are tons of other martial arts styles I'd like to see showcased through future characters like the other animal kung fu styles like the Tiger, Eagle, Leopard, or Monkey styles since Christie already has Snake style. I'd say add Wing Chun, Ba Gua, Sanda, Chuo Jiao, Shuai Jiao, Hung Gar, Choy Lei Fut, maybe one of the many various Long Fist styles like Fan Zi or perhaps Pak Mei because of the game Sifu. Non Chinese martial arts they could use would be Vovinam, Savate, Hapkido, Taido, Bokator, Goju Ryu or Uechi Ryu Karate, Judo or perhaps Bokh (Mongolian Wrestling). As for fanservice I really hope they wise up and realize fanservice and huge bouncy boobies is a bad thing of the past even if there was an option to adjust/turn it off like 5 did... *PSYCH BITCH YOU THOUGHT!* I want them to bring that DOA5 LR level of fanservice or maybe even double down on it in their next installment in spite of all those pretentious weak ass morally posturing ass game "journalists" and twitter loudmouths who think bullying and slandering devs to "do better" by either covering up or reducing the size of all the ladies' curves is somehow revolutionary and righteous. The next game must give the fans what they want and not cave into the demands of the ones that have always looked under their noses at this beautiful series

[@StunningSilken]

Omg 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂

[@stepanserdyuk4589]

Non-ironically, I loved DOA for its Reversal mechanics and how it turns the combat into a tactical rock-paper-scissors, rather than just button-mashing or combo juggling.

[@d3nworth1]

The quality of the stages were on the decline after DOA 4. DOA 5 had some interesting and fun stages. Skyscraper, the one with the raft, the oil rig, the circus when you knock the other player into the clowns mouth and shoot them out the cannon was fun. And the destruction made fights feel more dynamic. The cliffhanger mechanic was interesting. DOA 6 just gave us basic stages. The most interesting stage was the one with the dinosaurs.

[@doodskie999]

Hardest game series ever. It was so hard to play this with one hand

[@BP-dn9nv]

I'm going to be honest, I don't see Dead or Alive using sex appeal to sell its games as any different from Mortal Kombat using blood and gore to sell its. The average joe can't differentiate between the technical elements of fighting games so each one needs a way to stand out.

[@legendaryocelot]

Legend says that the developers all made this game only using one hand.

[@afsasdsd1420]

Aside from the DLC, it’s soooo good. Combo strings that other games don’t have AT ALL and the effects and how you can FEEL the impact of the hits, it’s so good 💅🏼

[@marsbitrona5920]

It’s weird that being an excellent fighting game is seen as a minor footnote in the franchise history.

[@beetheimmortal]

Dead or Alive's gameplay is so fucking great. The fanservice is fun and a good way for the game to stand out, but it all comes down to gameplay in the end, and DOA fucking nailed it. Despite all that though, I think it's better to let it go. TECMO proves it time and time again that they are not worthy of managing this franchise, and Team Ninja seems to have sold out to the ESG insanity.

[@connorg3693]

At first I thought the sunglasses joke wasn't funny, but the 157th one really won me over

[@BruvahSulaiman]

Weren't they the first to have stage transitions as well?

[@agt_pendergast8899]

I think that would be Mortal Kombat 3.

[@javiersoriano671]

@@agt_pendergast8899 true but I think he meant for the 3D games

[@Ryanska_u]

People were offended about the sex appeal of DOA after 4 entire games + beach ball spin offs? That sounds ridiculous lmao

[@Tysonator1000]

Outside this franchise, there's not a lot of good options for beach volleyball games. Same goes for sea doo racing. That's mainly what got me into the Xtreme series. There's a lot of untapped potential there if they fleshed out those games more. Going the free to play model didn't help the main series either. The amount of DLC that DOA6 had was beyond ridiculous and there's still no complete version available for it.

[@systembinarygaming]

You've made an excellent video: informative but not encyclopedic, with only pertinent data to drive home the point; charming delivery (no axe to grind, and not too dry or wry or smug); and fun thematic writing (a fresh Itagaki reference *every* *single* *time* he's brought up!).

[@zammich3649]

doa2 and 3 were absolutely amazing. heard 4 was top tier, too, but i never played it. dimensions on the DS was a surprisingly great rendition. to be honest, it's weird seeing people look on DOA like it's the most pervy game there is, because tbh a lot of the popular anime fighters -- and even some of the 3D ones -- are also pretty damn pervy with the female characters. yeah, at the time it was shocking that the boobs were rendered with so much detail and care, and that there was a volleyball spinoff game... but the fighting entries themselves are just so good, and they're surprisingly grounded compared to most other fighting games.

[@CrimsonPunk]

Entertaining wordplay aside, I thought the video missed out on some major points: • Like Tekken, Dead or Alive has roots that can be traced directly to the godfather of 3D fighters, Virtua Fighter. • DOA not only made a name for itself with it's rock-paper-scissors combat mechanics, but also its stage mechanics that Tekken eventually adopted into their series. • DOA2 Ultimate on the original Xbox was the first fighting game to truly get online done right. Online fighting games were few and far between in 2004, and the ones that were available offered extremely janky online experiences. • DOA3 on Xbox was not only ahead of every 3D fighting games in terms of fluidity upon its release in 2001, but it was also one of the best looking video games ever released at the time. It still looks good even by today's standards. • DOA4 was immensely popular in the 2000s and the Hollywood movie did nothing to hurt its popularity. Everyone knows Hollywood adaptations are trash. I went to a game convention called G.A.M.E. in the mid 2000s and DOA had larger lines than Zelda: Twilight Princess. You can google articles about this and you'll see most articles spend more time talking about DOA than Zelda. • DOA6 was not going for a gritty style. The gritty style was already done with DOA5. DOA6 turned up the brightness and saturation while the characters looked like plastic dolls- an art style that many fans disliked. The music was far less aggressive as well. • The verdict on DOA6 was out within weeks of its release. DOA6 felt rushed and incomplete compared to DOA5LR - a game which Koei Tecmo consistently invested in. DOA6 had less stages, costumes, dropped tag team mode, and had a bare bones story mode compared to DOA5. There were no online lobbies at release, while many fans criticized Koei Tecmo's DLC practices. • The director of DOA5 and DOA6, Yohei Shinbori, was released by Koei Tecmo in 2021. This was considered a significant blow to the future of the fighting game series. • There is a major disconnect between old school and new school fans. Most of the time, you can tell if someone is an old or new fan just by asking them their opinion of Honoka and Marie Rose. • Koei Tecmo has dedicated far more resources to the spinoff series than the fighting game series over the last five years. They dropped support for DOA6 after a year or so, yet Venus Vacation apparently continues to be supported with new content seven years after its release. The future of the series is likely in the live service spinoff games and most fans are 50/50 about DOA7 ever being released.

[@fantoniumnitrous]

100% agree my dude. The sheer disrespect towards this franchise has always been insulting. What's wrong with fanservice in fighting games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat have it but I guess Dead or Alive just isn't popular enough to brush past that. But you what, screw popularity. This franchise clearly has its own fanbase which is all it needs but Koei Tecmo stupidly pushed them away and it backfired in their faces. Just like SENRAN KAGURA, Dead or Alive's future seems to be extremely bleak.

[@Leifang12]

DOA for me is the greatest fighting game series! As a gay man, boobs never was the main point for me, but it was the only fighting game who actually promoted their female fighters and they were the main characters of the game and not just side characters. All fighting games sexualise women, but DOA gets so much hate, where we just gloss over the overtly sexual characters in other fighting game franchises! DOA has the best stages, graphics and the fighting system with the counters is magnificent ! You have to think to play doa because you can’t spam the same move over and over again, because you will get punished, so you are forced to educate yourself and evolve how you actually approach the game and change your style and moves !

[@wesker8814]

as someone who played DOA5 (U and LR) at the highest level for years, it is so tragic that they pushed the sexuality so much. The game had potential to become even bigger. Anyways, I miss those days man :(

[@StunningSilken]

Exactly

[@lazarushernandez5827]

They could easily solve this be either releasing a tournament edition, or a tournament mode in the regular release that limits the costumes you can use as well as the amount of 'bounce' allowed. Ranked/Tournament mode would leave these choices to the host/organizer. If you want free reign to use whatever costume, have an unranked mode especially for that.

[@spacewargamer4181]

True

[@churchofthetea4273]

its sad to see that after itagaki went away the direction of the franchise took this much of a turn doa 3 and 4 were two of the best fighting games i've played

[@cartoonvideos5]

Itagaki is a fraud and a hack nowadays, instead of good games he’s working on NFT mobile games to leech money from whales and cash cows.

[@joecrazy9896]

If jiggling honker bother you that much, you can always go to options and turn it off or just not buy the game.

[@paparoxo3606]

Itagaki is for sure, a man of culture.

[@officialbeezaymolotovy6787]

worst thing about DOA is the DLC... all the DLC together cost a fluccin PlayStation 5. INSANE

[@MoldMonkey93]

Used to get competitive for this year's ago. Shame what happened to 6. Most of us went back to 5. Made me get into VF too, played both for 10-7 years For DoA and VF respectively.

[@KarmaTube5]

“I only play for the fighting” Sure you do buddy! There’s no shame in playing for the physics 😂

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Sex always sell, people that cry about this stuff need something to put their time into

[@supergiant92]

As my favorite fighting game franchise, I want to say thank you for bringing the spotlight to it. Great video!

[@AtomBacon]

I first learned about it from the 3DS game DOA Dimensions. And I learned about that from the old 3DS Showcase episodes that aired on the Eshop in the early days of the console.

[@ROCK_UNIVERSE97]

dead or alive 3 will always be one of my favourite fighting games.

[@AntaresArcade]

I will always have a special spot for DOA, it's one of the few fighting games I'm competitive in. We need DOA4 rollback. :'(

[@raul7193]

I’ve played MK, SF , Tekken (literally my childhood ) and others. Nothing beats the grabs, offensive holds, tag fighting and overall how dynamic DOA is, specially characters like Ayane and Hayabusa with mind boggling agility. Say what you want about DOA , but it really is the most enjoyable fighting game I have ever played.

[@honeypeadigital]

We just need bloody roar to make a return.

[@elmono6299]

Yes please. Bring everyone back including Hans the Fox, Mitsuko the Boar, and Greg the Gorilla (all 3 were only playable in the 1st game and never returned since). 🐺🦁🐅🐆🐇🦊🐈🦇🦎🪲🦍🐗🐧🐘

[@StunningSilken]

​@@elmono6299Right

[@thegamingprozone1941]

​@el mono Jenny the Bat 😊

[@syd.a.m]

Darkstalkers, too.

[@matthewharris517]

I love how he's renaming the guy constantly 😎

[@CappuccinO80]

Somehow I don't think "bizarre" was a good choice of words here, nothing too strange about the series at all. Probably "shameless" instead. And I hope it gets back to its shameless roots if it ever comes back... enough with appeasing the gringo "kill OK titties bad" hypocritical mentality.

[@KueztionX]

We have mk where you can literally tear your opponent apart, make them suffer and bleed too much. But "DOA" is the bizarre one... LOOOOOL

[@JustMeIon]

The DoA Xtreme series is definitely a double edge sword. On one hand it's a harmless and mindless fun time with funny minigames and genuinely a technical graphical marvel. On the other hand, it completely ruin the entire franchise's reputation and arguably development. DoA6 was rushed to hell and back and never got the proper development it needed. DoA6 could've been great with stuff like rollback, crossplay, an actual decent progression system, and more characters. But Koei Tecmo completely gave up. I feel really bad for Team Ninja. I know there are other factors as to why DoA failed as a whole, but it genuinely went downhill after DoA5:LR. I'm still hoping (and coping) that there'll be a DoA7 once they tone down production on DoA Xtreme Venus Vacation and DoA Xtreme 3 in Asia, but still... One can hope...

[@JuanGomez-ke5py]

Can we get more yet I hope the next game bring throwing throwing frisbee fishing scuba diving building Sandcastle finding buried treasure

[@StunningSilken]

I was told that China and Taiwan have a large fanbase when it comes to DOA. However, they are disassociated from the rest of the world. It would be good if they could associate with the rest of the world more, maybe DOA would be more popular in that case, considering China's population.

[@lazarushernandez5827]

@@StunningSilken Well consider that Koei-Tecmo actually decided not to release DoA Xtreme 3: Fortune/Venus (you could still import them as the PS4/Vita were region free) or Xtreme Venus Vacation (originally available but was quickly removed in western PC storefronts) in western markets, it makes sense that the popularity is greater in those markets than in the west.

[@lazarushernandez5827]

@@JuanGomez-ke5py Xtreme 3 was a letdown in that area. They did not include activities from the 2nd game (Jet Ski, water slide). Could have easily included those, as well the ones you mentioned. Nor did they improve certain areas: They have a fully rendered casino but you don't have the 3D characters interacting with it, just headshots and voiceovers. Imagine if you were playing a game of poker with the other characters present, and you could determine if one of them was bluffing by their actions. Plus the game is essentially a wardrobe collect-a thon, have the characters dress up for the casino.

[@StunningSilken]

@@lazarushernandez5827 Exactly

[@miliart7695]

You deserve it, for the rapid string of shade themed... shades.

[@buttonmashranker]

heyyyy thanks!

[@bottomlefto]

if we can enjoy violence and its more extreme depictions like in mk, i see nothing wrong with sexiness and its more extreme depictions in doa being enjoyed in equal measure. my personal issue is hiding the sex to appeal to evo during mk6, chucking the preferences of older fans, and subsequently locking it behind really high paywalls thinking it'll bring them back. i'm on pc so i can just mod things to my preference, but console players don't have that option.

[@gunnarhassing5875]

I went to the horse races once. There was a horse named “Righteous Tatas.” When that race started the announcer said “and Righteous Tatas comes bouncing out of the gate.” Remind me of this series.

[@douglasbriel6103]

I hate gamers who don't have the balls to say they love this game. The women you think are going to judge you, were never going to date you in the first place. And Feminists who don't play games aren't your followers.

[@cartoonvideos5]

Good comment. Females are really difficult nowadays anyway, especially western ones where modern feminsim only makes them go after 1% of the male population

[@renatopinto3186]

​@@cartoonvideos5 🙄 mother of Jesus. Western girls are far more into gaming nowadays and plenty of them date geeks too. The issue likely sits with you.

[@douglasbriel6103]

@@renatopinto3186 The gaming girls aren't the ones judging. In comics, half of Michael Turner's fans are women. I'm just saying if you like a game, you like it. You don't need any disclaimers.

[@bluedude05]

The problem with the game was how it was sold and how the DLC was handled. Those are the biggest things that are stopping the game from actual success, in my opinion. That and they need to stop adding stick figure Teenage anime reject girls that are somehow power house fighters.

[@StunningSilken]

Exactly

[@GizmoHibiki]

Huge correction: Snowflakes and non gamers didn't like the sexualization and were angry about it. Actual fans of the series wanted more or fine with how much it had.

[@eropandasennin13]

You mean, the same fans that threw a hissy fit when Tecmo wanted to focus on a little less sexualisation starting with DoA5 by redudcing the breasts sizes?

[@GizmoHibiki]

@@eropandasennin13 Why reduce the amount of something that was a key feature?

[@eropandasennin13]

@@GizmoHibiki Because that "key feature" was most likely seen as an hindrance to a wider audience and to be taken more seriously competitively. Probably juvenile as well, which I can understand.

[@personaphantom5543]

@@eropandasennin13DOA was never taken seriously competitively and never will be Perfect Legend gets made fun for being good at DOA by the rest of the FGC.

[@eropandasennin13]

@@personaphantom5543 Not with it's current reputation no but the same could be said about MK and now that's competitively viable as well as being enjoyed by regular fans/newcomers.

[@phuckerpower]

Because you could play your own custom tracks from the Xbox hard drive, Xtreme Beach Volleyball was actually pretty fun.

[@rockduck2210]

LoL I have both of them

[@tgtg7182]

People complain about women's breast physics in video games but they'll watch two men with beards kissing on TV and won't complain .

[@eropandasennin13]

Not really the same though.

[@astasui]

Episode 3 was so TRASH

[@eropandasennin13]

@@astasui You upset?

[@DarkOverlord96]

You know, the fact taht DOA still gets backlash for its fanservice while MK is now basically gore pornography but no one cares about that or the fact that NRS employees developed PTSD because of crunch time while having to look at *REAL LIFE GORE* to make the violence more "realistic" but also make the female characters less sexy because "it's not realistic" is sitll fucking *DISGUSTING.*

[@derheadbanger9039]

I loved DOA 2 and 3 (it went down hill from here), it was my favourite fighting game.

[@MortalRoomba]

I don’t get how everyone was horrified about jiggle physics in DOA while also no one says anything negative about jiggle physics in the new street fighter. In terms of portraying females in a sexualized caricaturistic light is the same.

[@uhobme2028]

Says something about the monetization, when you have so much DLC that you can't even find the game itself

[@rosumin38]

I love the DOA series. Took the Virtua Fighter formula and built up on it in fun and creative ways. Not to mention the amount of innovations it brought to 3D fighting games. However for all its plus sides DOA is also its own worst enemy at times i.e the Extreme games.

[@Love-Sensibility]

Its not its worst enemy when the extreme games did sell. However I totally agree they took up lessons from VF and perfected it. Even early Tekken games don't look that good

[@namekiz3199]

Dude literally said: "You don't understand, the breast physic engine was critical to the fighting game industry"

[@jimijames27]

I honestly loved DOA 2 I believe it pretty much was the best fighting game ever. It was super fun. I obviously was aware of the sexual side of it but didn't really realize that was a huge selling point until later. The game as a fighter stands on it's own.

[@KadeemG61]

Boy, this franchise hasn’t aged well. They hadn’t have a better DOA game since Dead Or Alive 4 and now, DOA has been stuck with too many season passes and too many sex-crazed outfits. Same as Dynasty Warriors, they repeatedly used the same formula over and over again. Fans just sick of it and just move on to another franchise that is better rebooting new ideas and cramming into a solid game.

[@bulletproofman323]

My favorite 3D fighting game series hands down. Fast, fluid, fun, great mechanics, quite underrated and horribly demonized. Like what, y'all don't like titties? Shit.

[@charlesfarley28]

Other potential monikers for Itagaki include The Ace of Shades, The Spectacular Spectacle-Man, Anteojos Del Soul Calibur, His Horned Up Hornrimmed Highness, The Grand Poobah of Booba, Teat Fighter, and The Ecchi In Oakleys.

[@ipeeontheworld]

doa isnt weird its one of the better franchises. All the random hate is completely cringe and undeserved. The game has really good gameplay and the men are badass while the girls are waifu, as it should be.