That van is almost as amazing as the loyal doggo-friend. What a set-up. Thanks for the walkaround from Norway across the Pond.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@followyourheart78189 ай бұрын
Love the van but also loved how he makes sure it's comfortable for his dog... looks out for him.
@dianalee5089 ай бұрын
Beautiful build! I love all the safety/security features. This is a MUST for a single traveler, with or without a dog.
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
Always felt super secure!
@TrinkaPolite9 ай бұрын
Buddy is beautiful 😍 I've never seen a dishwasher in a van. Nice van🎉
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Me neither
@michellegulden10529 ай бұрын
I like the dishwasher. I also like the decor. There are some different elements, I enjoyed seeing them.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! 😊
@1truthseeking89 ай бұрын
@@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventuresI want to do a semi trailer with R-50 or higher.... Milled square log wall interior, marine shipping container exterior ... Main focus is on moisture /vapor preventing mold /condensation... Any advice or any one that has experience building similar?
@poms_beats24 күн бұрын
Lol I love the fact that he always acknowledges his dog, it's so sweet
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures24 күн бұрын
Yes 🙌
@JRZGRL559 ай бұрын
Wow! I know I use that word a lot too. But it fits. Actually wow wow wow - amazing! Thanks Patrick & Dominic!
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@suzannecranford68199 ай бұрын
This Promaster build is awesome! What a great home! I think you got it right the first time, and have a unit that will give you many happy years to come! By the way, I also have a Waggle system (for 3 or 4 years now) that I think is a must if you have pets. Thank you so much for the tour!
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
I agree! Give a great sense of security when you need to be away from the van!
@donnettewebster25049 ай бұрын
This is a beautiful and well thought out van. It’s probably one of the best I’ve seen
@cigarmann9 ай бұрын
Really doesn't need anything else, the dishwasher is a unique feature I think most van travelers would not want but......
@coffybrooksclausell8839 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@coffybrooksclausell8839 ай бұрын
Simply going on. Great job ❤❤❤❤
@Erin-Thor9 ай бұрын
For anyone who has had food poisoning having a dishwasher that heats water to 130°+ becomes a serious want. 😊
@name.terrie9 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for featuring this van build.
@nunyabeezwacks14088 ай бұрын
Dishwashers help to conserve water, because they use less water than hand washing.
@joakimhjelm-svennesen89849 ай бұрын
Man that van build is perfect!! Surprisingly spacious inside. And that kitchen got all the appliances you need. Although the dishwasher is rather excess, but then again why not. The seating area looks quite cozy under the raised bed, which in itself is a space saver. And the bathroom is nice too. The cassette toilet is a nice touch too - especially when you grabe the cassette from the outside. And the fact that the van got both solar and a generator well thought too
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
The generator adds a lot of freedom to enjoy all the power you want, but TBH, when I was living in the van I rarely used it. The 600 watts of solar and huge battery provides ample power, but I'm glad we did it.
@jennifer18729 ай бұрын
Best part your beautiful furry buddy he practically never left your side 😊
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
So true
@danamabey64508 ай бұрын
This Jersey girl wants this van! It hits everything I need and want for myself as well as my furbabies! I may just want a gas top. I'm sure that glass top would break with me.. lol clutzzzzy.. Thanks again, Patrick for another amazing find!!!
@ekdaufin14859 ай бұрын
Great dog!
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
True
@rattlecat59689 ай бұрын
🤣👍👏🏻
@pakrve9 ай бұрын
I am ready to buy a similar and winter insulatet home van like this with maximum amount of solar panels on the roof in about a year. What will you estimate the cost to be? I am living in Sweden in the south, and it needs to be delivered here?.
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
My Buddy! :-)
@shelly4109 ай бұрын
This is an amazing van! All the comforts of a brick and mortar home. :-)
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
It really is!
@lizzym90299 ай бұрын
Really cool van. Dishwasher is really nice and hopefully saves on water. Generator addition is great! 27 north does quality build. But the Pup is star of the show 😊
@RR-ss7dn9 ай бұрын
Love this van. Love the colors too. Great choices and great build.
@ennzee53939 ай бұрын
The best part is the doggo, so well behaved!
@drea35569 ай бұрын
Throughly enjoyed the tour. I felt everything outlined definitely 💯 a great livable or rental. Love the additional features and generator. Thank you.
@olebloom16419 ай бұрын
Dishwasher is awesome. Figure out on of those micro clothes washer from the marine industry and it would have everything.
@Me_Me_J5 ай бұрын
The most I like its how much time you spend understanding all the safety issues.
@barclayej9 ай бұрын
Really nice. Thanks guys.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@Erin-Thor9 ай бұрын
I’ve seen more than a few Van builds, this one by 27°N is EXCELLENT! Dishes are a pain in a van, and to be able to stick them in a dishwasher, do a quick rinse, wash them all and sanitize them when full is Genius. The drop down bed with the dining/work area underneath is the perfect use of space! My only question is if that wonderful 🐶 comes with the van? Can we rent it for a weekend? 😊
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you! Daily and weekly rentals available, dog not included
@Erin-Thor9 ай бұрын
@@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures LOL!
@blessedone57129 ай бұрын
This is definitely one of the nicest setups
@amiralions26819 ай бұрын
Wow, this is a very impressive build. I never thought I'd see a dishwasher in a B van. I wonder if they could put in one of those washer/dryer combo machines instead 🤔. Thank you both for doing this in freezing weather.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
That would be cool!
@kiefferkeepinon8289 ай бұрын
Oh, wow! Now, there's an idea. 🤔🤯
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
we actually planned on having a mini washer and dryer, but we used up a lot of storage place and decided to cut it out. However, you definitely can get a mini washer / dryer combo in this van w/some floor plan adjustments.
@Roadghost889 ай бұрын
Great build. Really packed in the features. Very impressive.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Glad you like it!
@markk27458 ай бұрын
Nice van. Love Buddy and he pops up for the camera every chance he gets. I take my dog (Also named Buddy) every place on my motorcycle in a k9 dog backpack .
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures8 ай бұрын
So cool
@mamabear52899 ай бұрын
One of the best build I’ve seen
@KyleRuggles9 ай бұрын
Great design! I'd probably take out that convention oven and use it for more storage. Great run through, Patrick! Happy Easter!
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
Storage can be any issue, but there's tons of cabinet storage and a big garage. However, the more the merrier!
@anserkhan94309 ай бұрын
Looks amazing bro!!
@goofe.washington9539 ай бұрын
Nice rig…and geezum that dog is friggin’ beautiful.
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
He's the best and what an amazing experience to travel the U.S. and experience the great outdoors w/my best friend!
@brendanripper19778 ай бұрын
Man I want this van so bad it has all the comforts and it's so cosy
@shirleylaracuente80219 ай бұрын
Very nice. Cozy neat. Love it
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@mofoq9 ай бұрын
SimpliSafe? who needs that when you got Buddy? 😍
@Erin-Thor9 ай бұрын
Because sometimes you are out hiking/walking the dog, and it’s nice to have some protection on the RV.
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
😂
@ninabains43499 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this van tour. Well done tour, well done filming, well done van.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@MoonSmiles99999 ай бұрын
I especially love the auto temp. system you have in place. And all the terrific amenities! Dishwasher! Oven! Great Fridge and Freezer! Big deep sink! What other type mattresses could you install? This is the first van layout I truly would choose! Have you parked in Urban areas? Could you share the time needed for this build and the costs? Including all the upgrades? Thank you!
@magneto95559 ай бұрын
Very pleasantly surprised to see that you have a new video out this morning. Great way to start my Saturday 😊
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@skapunkoialternativeliving65229 ай бұрын
Enjoy gotta be a sheep. Who enjoyed that stupid video with manufactured people trying to take advantage of the system trying to get advantage of working class people who want to build their own vans
@carolsakaguchi37399 ай бұрын
That’s an incredible van!
@lauragosnell24819 ай бұрын
Fabulous! Love Budy!!
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
Ditto!
@lok40589 ай бұрын
Fabulous. I could move right in.
@MrBlackblacker9 ай бұрын
i prefer this layout❤ well thought of!
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
I do too
@Sharon-jz4ri9 ай бұрын
Awesome van! Best wishes for fun and safe travels!!
@dennisbravo26129 ай бұрын
I love it especially the power generator it's perfect you might go out then you have low energy so option generator it's perfect
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
the generator was a game changer! Especially during cloudy days!
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
This generator by Cummins is amazing and Super Quiet!
@dawnkangas29689 ай бұрын
Awesome thanks for a tour
@joshremington9 ай бұрын
Ty❤
@amyhagerman96709 ай бұрын
Nice Van! I love your dog
@BrittMFH9 ай бұрын
Nice build! Never seen an oven and dishwasher in a van. I've been living in my Solis PX for six months and wouldn't need but I can see if you're renting it out. Very nice!
@fredministryofjesus9 ай бұрын
I Love this van especially the security features with is awesome, i'll take note to those features. I would get a small oven and get a mini washing machine instead of the dishwasher and it would be perfect it. this van is so cool. i'd like more storage like closet or bookcase. another option I was thinking of doing not sure if can be done but have on the roof catch rain water and fill a tank inside the van with rain water for the toilet and if had filtration system use the rainwater for the shower.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Glad the video was helpful
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
I love the rain idea. Our roof is pretty packed, but there are air to water generators that can produce up to 6 gallons of water daily. This would allow for a smaller fresh water tank opening up more interior ideas.
@Bigcat6249 ай бұрын
I love this van
@luishernandez57329 ай бұрын
I have abused the "this is the best van I've ever seen" comment many times, but this IS the best one yet! Surprisingly big inside, everything you need and more (dishwasher is an excess, in my opinion, but heck, why not). The fact that the heater and generator tap onto the gas tank is perfect, the auto on for the generator is an excellent plus! The fridge is one of the largest I've seen in a van of that size, thirty gallons of fresh water is amazing, big sink, excellent shower and shower head, even a roof top deck...perfect van! My only concern is the under-body generator; the worrier in me think is too low, but you wouldn't take that awesome van off road anyways. Perfect for the city and the coastline!!!
@dianalee5089 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not a city like Houston. Regular cars “bottom out” on some roads and parking lots! I would have to spend the money and have a van lifted or there would be damage underneath.
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
I agree w/the generator so we added 1.5 in lift. However, light off roading only; LOL.
@ilovevanlife9 ай бұрын
So clean!
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
it was definitely a daily chore w/the dog. hair ...
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
Loving all the comments! Currently getting ready for our 7th and 8th Adventure.
@sharonsegal97849 ай бұрын
Love this build! ❤
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Yay, thank you!
@cookiewm9 ай бұрын
Awesome build
@franflannery87119 ай бұрын
Great van great review
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@killtrocity68578 ай бұрын
He must alot of fun in that van with his BF
@pavelbosovik9 ай бұрын
We love you guys!! Keep it up!!!
@gregpendrey67119 ай бұрын
This is cool. Super informative. There are pleated tailored grey merc. curtains for privacy. I would get those. The Roman shade is too cumbersome in this window. Idk. though im not there. No color allowed haha.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
So cool!
@Me_Me_J5 ай бұрын
Im calling this guy once im ready to Build mine.
@kiefferkeepinon8289 ай бұрын
This is a great build. I would like to know about the "extra" insulation. Especially, as the doors are still metal on the interior, without any obvious buffer for blocking heat or cold conduction. Also, would love to know more about the elevator bed, the glass breaking alarms, and the oven details. I love this video, and not once am negative about who built it, but how it was built and the unique touches given it, which gets MY creative juices going for my own build. 😊 Thank you for putting out another wonderful video. I know a lot of work goes into them. ❤
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
We added additional insulation in the floors, ceiling and behind all the wall. With the Window Covers and additional insulation you get great comfort!
@TheVirginiaStew9 ай бұрын
Great Build
@biancakaye27219 ай бұрын
Fabulous
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Great 👍
@scrapdaddysgarage50279 ай бұрын
The dishwasher blew my mind! Give that dog a treat! Good boy.
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Me too
@JessicaFerri-um4hf9 ай бұрын
Nice rig, has everything....(dishwasher..?!). Smart. 👌✨
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Yes, thanks
@robin547339 ай бұрын
Amazing for a 136 build. They have stuffed everything into this that you could think of and then some. I was waiting for him to point out a washing machine 😂. Maybe put the clothes in the dishwasher. 😂
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
we actually purchased and planned a mini washer and dryer, but cut it at the last minute. #toomuch
@NoteFromSELF9 ай бұрын
When I build my van, I will hide all the controls. But I really like this build overall. It has a good feel.
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
I agree, I wasn't supper happy w/the control center. However, working w/27 North they have made some great changes. Next time.
@NoteFromSELF9 ай бұрын
@@ViralVans I think a cover could be made for the monitors. But given the totality of the build, I'm just nitpicking at this point.
@ViralVans8 ай бұрын
@@NoteFromSELF that's a simple fix; you can just turn off the monitor. However, when I'm traveling I like to keep them on so I can quickly look up if I'm sleeping and hear something I need to check out.
@NoteFromSELF8 ай бұрын
@@ViralVans I don't mind the monitors being on all the time, I just want as many utilitarian items as possible to be hidden. It's the minimalist in me.
@TravelingSag9 ай бұрын
🎉Patrick🎉
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Hello 👋
@paullehto22949 ай бұрын
Your could build a basic simple van with fixed bed, portable generator, no shower or a/c, heat and portable toilet for 10k over van cost and have good time with it. I did it in my early twenties. But if you can afford it , it sure nice to have a van that does it at a high level of comfort like this van
@hmmm25649 ай бұрын
That's a waste of money . 10k plus van cost sounds miserable
@paullehto22949 ай бұрын
It’s great when your twenty, better than sleeping in car, now at 70 I need a van like this
@orlandolucas84219 ай бұрын
not bad for 200k
@coffybrooksclausell8839 ай бұрын
Roof deck to. I gotta build
@NewJerseyOutdoorAdventures9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah
@Me_Me_J5 ай бұрын
Fancy!
@1LLU5IVE9 ай бұрын
Dudes been in retail for 30 years. Looks not a day over 35! So young bro!
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
made my day! Thank you!
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
I turn 45 on July 2nd. 😳
@jodycoyote39169 ай бұрын
Wow. Incredible build with everything you need. Dishwasher, oven, always bed, amazing. What water. does he drink? Bring with him or clean the water from the faucet?
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
the water if filtered.
@PaulBunyan19639 ай бұрын
The guy is addicted to the word "GREAT" LOL
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
When it's GREAT it's GREAT!
@lisahurst19409 ай бұрын
How does your water not freeze when it is that cold outside? And is the heating gasoline or propane. Nice build but I am going to guess this cost as much as a house. Live that fridge and bed!
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
Hey! So we did have our grey water tank freeze over. Tip: keep your valve upen in freezing weather. The heater was AMAZING. It runs off the gas and is only 12v. The van cost about $200k all in.
@ToniAdventures9 ай бұрын
Wait… a dishwasher?!? Tell us more about that!
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
just be creative. There are so many mini-dishwasher options on the market.
@joselito77769 ай бұрын
Too many uses of the adjective 'great'. Really impressed with the tech though and this is the first time Ive seen a dishwasher in a van build.
@stephennowicki71589 ай бұрын
OMG! Did he miss anything 😳😁
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
😂
@skapunkoialternativeliving65229 ай бұрын
Insulation, don't do a d*** thing when it's cold. Your vehicle is cold and it's hot. The vehicle is hot insulation doesn't do a d*** thing to it except slow down the mold.
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
not true at all. Insulation is an important feature that needs to be thought out and prioritized in any build.
@skapunkoialternativeliving65227 ай бұрын
@@ViralVans Actually, it is true because migrants are comprehensive. The best installation money can buy and it's still hot as hell when it's summer time, and it's still freezing cold in the winter explained that to me that part. You're not explained explain why it's still hot in the winter. I mean sorry, hot in the summer and freezing cold in the Sun with no winter. Explain that to me. I will agree. It does something it stops the mold and stuff which it does. But as far as the cold whether or the heat, it don't stop that. This is why you have a heater or you have a air conditioning in your vehicle for a reason.
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
@@skapunkoialternativeliving6522 You can't just insulate a van, no matter how much you spend and expect you wouldn't need any climate control. You don't insulate a home and not put in climate control! Insulation and A/C and Heating need to work together not alone. Just as you cannot just depend on a heater or A/C to provide comfort.
@enidshear28479 ай бұрын
Sprinkled
@ericmed9 ай бұрын
👍Do you have the make'model of motion sensing light?
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
the cabinet lights? I ordered them from amazon.
@yutuber59 ай бұрын
You guys must be in THE MOST Northwest part of Sussex county cause I live in Essex county and I haven’t seen the temps drop to 15 degrees this entire winter 🥴
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
It was brick in Jersey this winter. I was also out west and it was so cold the grey water tank froze over. I definitely recommend a thermostat in any van build. It did an amazing job keeping the inside of the van very comfortable regardless of the weather.
@wendykinsey-o6x9 ай бұрын
Incredible features to the van. The only problem is the Unending gray. It gives the place the look of a business work space. No offence, gray and taupe are still overused today. Color lifts the spirits for many people, others prefer gray black taupe. But it is impressive.
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
Unending Gray? There are 3 upper cabinets in grey and the cushions. We have GREEN, Natural Wood (dark and light ones)👀
@sashabenoit15189 ай бұрын
Calling this a "very unique floorplan" is reallyyy stretching it... The only thing that I would even consider to be unique is the oven placement. Other than that, it's literally the same basic floorplan that 99% of vans have.
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
We chose a standard floor plan however (which we highlighted at the top of the video), we modified that plan by adding the elevator bed and extending the lounge area to 32 inches deep. We eliminated the dinning table and put two table mounts. We also added additional outlets and a water outlet for a Washing Machine. Overall, the basic floor plan is pretty standard.
@allthegearnoideaoverland9 ай бұрын
Nothing revolutionary at all.
@MoonSmiles99999 ай бұрын
Will you add more solar panels? Am I understanding you have three sources of power? No propane. A Generator. An 800 watt battery. And solar?
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
We started w/300W and it was not enough. 600w has been perfect. Living in the Van for over 6 months I only used a total of 10 hours of the generator and with over 13 completed rentals, the generator has not been needed or used once.
@victorventura19569 ай бұрын
How long is the two twin beds under big bed that goes up and down? 72" by chance?
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
The lounge area is deep, but the two sides are about 54 inches.
@lengwei48648 ай бұрын
Being honest I'd rather a small washing machine than a dish washer seems a when just you,could skip thr oven too but apart from that it's great,should tinit windows too
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
We designed the van w/a mini washing machine and dryer, however ... it's faster, cheaper and more efficient to drive up to a laundry mat to do all your laundry
@janeconnors18079 ай бұрын
A very posh camper van
@YouTubeCensor8 ай бұрын
Beautiful, and I love all the security, but I'll bet there are people who could shimmy in through the toilet port! 😧
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
LOL, impossible.
@YouTubeCensor7 ай бұрын
@@ViralVans What are the dimensions?
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
@@KZbinCensor approximately 22 ft long and 10.2 ft tall
@YouTubeCensor7 ай бұрын
@@ViralVans Thanks, I meant the port.
@YouTubeCensor7 ай бұрын
@@ViralVans And shall we give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't being deliberately obtuse?
@MoonSmiles99999 ай бұрын
Does your van not have a black water tank since your toilet is a cassette type of toilet?
@MoonSmiles99999 ай бұрын
No, if I remember your description.
@kayfay5029 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Me_Me_J5 ай бұрын
An Oven?
@Tesla-Cannon9 ай бұрын
I wonder how many gallons the dishwasher takes
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
about a gallon
@MM-fe9mz9 ай бұрын
What is the exterior length of this? Didn't see anything this short on 27 north
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
22 feet
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
27 North is focusing on Sprinter Vans. I requested the Promaster for our build.
@kimdagnillo82468 ай бұрын
So what does that do to your insurance when you rent out the van ? If they get into an accident you’re the owner and you can be sued if it’s the drivers fault. Can you explain please.
@drea35568 ай бұрын
I believe you buy insurance when renting it.
@happyguilmore42538 ай бұрын
Huge huge lounge area 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
Yes, HUGE when you're living in a class b. We extend the bench over a foot.
@daniellerae17169 ай бұрын
The most water I have seen in a van was 75 gallons. Almost all have 40 gallons an under. The most I’ve seen in a bus was 400 gallons 40ft bus. The average bus has about 100 gallons sometimes 200. Some of these small shuttles vans have 12 passengers. 12 x200 pounds is 2400. I saw online these vans can carry 6400 pounds. Why is there not more water? You should be able to put at least 100 gallons in these (4) 25 gallon water tanks evenly. That’s only 800 pounds. Buses should carry 200-400. The wonderland comes with 200 pounds & can be custom made for more. It waste too much gas to go get water. If these carried more water many more people would be interested . They need vans that carry more weight specifically designed for this. Water trucks almost the same as buses can carry 50,000 gallons or more. I get people don’t want to drive with this but driving you would not stay full. You would only fill up right before boon docking.
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
The more water you add, the more space you take up and more weight you add to the build. 30 gallons of water is more than enough to last days between refilling. It's all about prioritizing and planning.
@jacsjacs21089 ай бұрын
Cost of house almost with land?
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
All in $200k. Comparing a camper van to a standard house with land is comparing apples to oranges. When designing a van build you need to balance function, style, and overall cost.
@jacsjacs21089 ай бұрын
What is the cost of the build???
@ViralVans9 ай бұрын
all in a little over $200K
@daniellerae17169 ай бұрын
The biggest thing is water these need more water.
@ViralVans7 ай бұрын
the more water you add the more weight and space you take up. 30 gallons of water is more than enough to support several days of use.