The MOST CONTROVERSIAL JERSEY NUMBER in Seattle Seahawks HISTORY

[@jeffanderson3962]

Seahawks QBs with "I before E" in the middle of their name always wear #17

[@eddisonfoncette9103]

I am old school Hawks fan from the UK. Dave Kreig, out of tiny Milton College, who worked his way up from 4th on the depth chart to become our starting QB for 9 years and ultimately a well deserved place in the Ring Honour. After Kreig left it took over a decade and a plethora of QB'S including three 1st round picks before we got anything resembling consistent quality production out of the QB position. When I was a kid I had his Sports Illustrated poster on my bedroom wall, so here's to Dave Kreig, aka " Mudbone" who will always be my favourite player . And by the way Jacob Green, Curt Warner and Kreig's numbers should be retired. Go Hawks

[@CTubeMan]

Easley’s number has been retired. I don’t believe any Seahawk wore it in a regular season game since he retired.

[@eddisonfoncette9103]

@@CTubeMan Thanks for clearing that up. Go Hawks

[@efinden]

Mudbone! I forgot that. And the OG curt warner! Don’t forget John L. Williams! The guy caught and ran some great screen plays!

[@rwboa22]

As a lifelong fan of the Philadelphia Eagles, a similar controversy occured when the team signed Michael Vick, who was then just reinstated to the NFL after the dog fighting debacle, as the team's backup QB, and then, allowed him to wear No. 7. While signing Vick was sort-of controversial, the biggest controversy was his jersey number (7), which, despite the number being associated with QB Ron Jaworski (who, along with HC Dick Vermeil, got the team to their first Super Bowl appearance in the 1980 season), despite giving Vick his permission to wear No. 7, was very controversial to the point that die-hard fans demanded that the team retired No. 7 in Jaworski's honor. To this day, only three notable players since Jaworski has worn No. 7: Jeff Garcia, Vick, and Sam Bradford. Currently, Haason Reddick (outside linebacker) wears No. 7.

[@eddisonfoncette9103]

@@rwboa22 Even back then, we in the UK, knew the reputation of the fans in Philly. That they didn't play , were uniquely hard core and the only thing tougher and more intimidating than them was # 92 and the killer turf in Veterans Stadium . Go Hawks

[@stuartdollar9912]

It'd be one thing if Freisz was a serviceable QB, but he was crap on a crap team. And yeah, Dave Krieg should be in the Hall of Fame. Only three QBs in the 1980's threw for 20,000 yards, over 169 touchdowns, and had over 57 wins as a starter. The other two were Joe Montana and Dan Marino. It's easy to forget just how good Krieg was. File this under Reason #1,000,003 to despise Ken Behring.

[@rwaitt14153]

I like Krieg but he is a "Hall of Very Good" candidate. HOF requires somebody to be very special.

[@saintbrownthetrojan]

Who knew numbers could be so controversial?

[@Lil_C_024]

Right lol 😢

[@michaelmapes4119]

I went to college at UI same time Friesz.did. Yeah, he was the center of attention and *everybody* thought he was going in the First Round of the NFL draft. Well that was the year also that Jeff George decided to come out early and was the first QB taken. Friesz wasn't picked until the 6th round!

[@bb-gc2tx]

krieg and ken obrien the two most underrated qbs of the 1980s

[@JasongCLJ]

I can agree ,yea.

[@ProStriker92]

I remember in NFL Gameday 97 for PlayStation (based on the 1996 season) playing with the Seahawks i always traded for Dave Krieg sending to the Bears Rick Mirer (who joined to Chicago in 1997 in real life) but because you cannot change the numbers in the game Krieg got the 3 from Mirer. So i made a series of trades between both Bears and Seahawks so Krieg got the 17 and the starting spot, Friesz the 3 and the backup spot, and finally Mirer becoming a Bears QB (i wanted to keep Friesz as backup, although perfectly him could have been a Bears QB while Krieg and Mirer where in Seattle with their identified numbers)

[@TheZXKUQYB]

Krieg was signed by the Bears in 96 not trade. He left the Seahawks in 91. Miner was traded in 97

[@teen_laqueefa]

@@TheZXKUQYB cool, he is talking about a video game.....and also this is a Wendys

[@archie7186]

Dan fouts record as a starter 86-84-1 , warren moon 102-101-0 , Dave krige 98-77-0 mudbone has both them beat ,

[@imaouima]

All 3 at one time or another held the NFL record for most fumbles.

[@astrostar49]

Always love a Krieg spotlight. Definitely an underrated triggerman. If the Seahawks had a couple of more pieces in place and/or Krieg was on a franchise with more consistent ownership he could have taken a team to the Super Bowl. Really though, he should have dropped the jersey drama.

[@soxbigdog]

All it takes is an equipment manager saying "How about no?"

[@CTubeMan]

I’ll take that number for…ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

[@thezenitsufan1249]

Dave Krieg I think should be in the Hall of Fame

[@johnselwitz5362]

I like Dave Krieg, as a Steelers fan, I always wished we had a guy like Krieg under center after Terry Bradshaw retired, he would’ve given us stability at the position for years to come, something Pittsburgh didn’t have in the time period between Bradshaw’s retirement and eventually drafting Ben in 2004. But unfortunately, Krieg is in the “Hall of Very Good” category. I don’t think he’s a Hall of Famer. When it comes to whether or not someone is deserving of the HOF, the best criteria is you shouldn’t have to think about it when asked “is this player a Hall of Famer?” You just know automatically. Jerry Rice, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers when he retires, you don’t have to think about it when asked if those guys are HOF’ers, you know immediately that they are. But with Krieg, you’d have to think about it first, and I think that’s gonna stop him from ever getting in.

[@bighoss8793]

I just a number. Who cares? Retiring numbers is stupid.

[@redmustangredmustang]

The thing is once Dave Krieg left the Seahawks after the 91 season, the Seahawks just went down the toilet until they made a wildcard in 1999 with Mike Holmgren. They tried Rick Mirer and he wasn't it. John Kitna was a short term solution, but the real guy was Matt Hasselbeck and then getting Shaun Alexander that turned things around. Dave Krieg and Steve Largent were the offense and yeah you can Curt Warner was good in the running game, but sadly once he tore his ACL he just was never the same.

[@marcus813]

Considering that Krieg was playing for the Cardinals by the time this happened, what could he really do? Also, it's not as if Friesz had worn some other number before landing in Seattle and randomly requested No. 17, which would make this situation vastly different.

[@mgb4692]

I guess he sort of got a measure of revenge in '95 when the Cards beat the Hawks in OT though neither QB was good in that game (hell Rick Mirer threw two passes that were both picked, so it was QB Nightmares all around)

[@jackmessick2869]

The Cowboys and Raiders do not retire numbers, when they could easily have a dozen each. I think it's fine.

[@Hutch76k]

Krieg made 3 Pro Bowls in the 1980’s. The AFC had 5 hall of fame quarterbacks during that span. Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, John Elway, Warren Moon and Jim Kelly.

[@curtisjoseph]

I fear we're running out of material...

[@kevinramsey417]

Kreig could really throw the rock.

[@ihateapplebeeswa]

Krieg

[@msarzo]

How about a QB for the Packers wearing No. 12 for Lynn Dickey 😂

[@juliansmith1951]

He should've had his jersey retired by the Seattle seahawks

[@mgb4692]

Then we wouldn't have had Braylon Edwards and his magical lone Hawk TD vs the Patriots in the You Mad Bro? game

[@LegendaryDorkKnight]

Fun fact: My dad had his name legally changed from Craig to Kriegg in honor of Dave Krieg after he retired. Dave Krieg was his favorite QB and he followed his career from his start in Seattle to his final season with the Oilers. For some perspective on that, my dad was 8 when Krieg started and when Krieg retired, he was 26 and I was about to be 5.

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

Just wondering why he spelled Krieg with 2 g's

[@LegendaryDorkKnight]

@@dallasbrubaker6054 Funnily enough, it was a typo. Filling out government documents over the internet was relatively new at the time and he made a typo by putting 2 g's. He just kept it like that once he actually went to the DMV because they told him he'd have to fill out another form.

[@mobey68]

I don't understand why 19 would be a big deal. Yes, Johnny Unitas wore 19 with the Baltimore Colts who moved to Indianapolis and took their history with them. I could see the outrage if he was a Colt and wanted to wear 19. The Ravens have the Browns history and I don't think anyone is upset that he wore Bernie Kosar's number.

[@DolFan316]

Even back then people were constantly looking for something to get angry about. I know, I was there.

[@chrisp679]

The Ravens actually don’t have the Browns’ history at all. It was required to stay in Cleveland. As I said in another reply, Unitas disowned the Colts when they left and declared his loyalty to the city of Baltimore, having settled there after his retirement and becoming a significant part of the local community. So you might wanna think before commenting next time.

[@JasongCLJ]

Kosar was super accurate, brah. One of the lowest INT %s you can find.

[@RetroJR3379]

Least it not the Bengals. Boomer criticize the Bengals and the owner got back at Boomer by unretiring #7 and gave it to future hall of famer Dave Klinger

[@teen_laqueefa]

Lol......HOF.. more like foh....lol

[@RetroJR3379]

@@teen_laqueefa Dont mess with The Kling LOL

[@CTubeMan]

The Bengals have only retired #54 for Bob Johnson. If they haven’t retired the numbers worn by Anthony Munoz, Ken Riley, and Ken Anderson, they wouldn’t retire Esiason’s number.

[@JasongCLJ]

Hey he is a college hall of famer , or something. He broke records in college. The Bengals were hoRRible (atleast one year they were the worst team in the league) when he was there. Look at esiasons last season there. Old offensive line , etc. etc.

[@J-LO_18]

@@JasongCLJironically enough set the single game TD record (Klinger) against Eastern Washington University

[@humperdink1979]

Was a kid during the '80s Seahawks era. He was the most bi-polar quarterback in the league, and you never knew beforehand what you were going to get. If a defense could do a decent job on holding down Curt Warner and get a pass rush (basically if they could dictate to a thoroughly average Seahawks offensive line), Krieg had a 50/50 shot of completely falling apart and posting an atrocious performance. But if the running game was decent, and protection was good enough to let him get comfortable, he could positively shred a team. League leader in touchdown passes, and fumbles. The tldr of his career is that game against the Chiefs when Derrick Thomas sacked him like 6 times, and he still managed a last second win off that throw to Skansi WHILE EVADING THOMAS AGAIN.

[@JasongCLJ]

Yep (: .

[@flyinelvis69]

Irony of this all is that Kreig was playing for the Cardinals wearing the 17 that should've been retired long ago for Jim Hart

[@ihateapplebeeswa]

Krieg

[@Rockhound6165]

The whole kerfuffle over Mitchell wearing 19 is stupid. Unitas played for the Colts and not Ravens or even the Browns. This would be like after the Cardinals left St. Louis and the Rams moving in people getting upset that someone on the Rams was wearing #8.

[@chrisp679]

Except you’re missing a key contextual point. Unitas disowned the Colts after they moved to Indianapolis, and still kept a connection to Baltimore by returning there after his retirement and spending the rest of his life there.

[@marcus813]

I agree. I know that Unitas disowned the Colts after the controversial move, but the Ravens are a different franchise and haven't retired a single number as of 2023. I have no issue with Mitchell wearing the number 19 mainly because that's what he had been wearing since at least his college days at Utah. It wasn't as if he had worn some other number elsewhere before joining the Ravens and suddenly requesting the number.

[@chrisp679]

@@marcus813 doesn’t matter. 19 is synonymous with one figure in Baltimore football history and it ain’t Scott Mitchell. Doesn’t matter what number he had his whole career.

[@mgb4692]

BTW Friesz is also in another JG9 video, getting picked off by Glenn Cadrez in '98. You can learn more about that game by clicking the card in the upper right hand corner.

[@ghostchili100]

Maybe he should have played for the Raiders. They have never had any reservations with reissuing famous players’ numbers.

[@dangeiger9796]

Did you see tonight’s Cubs-Phillies game tonight? It could definitely be the subject of a dumb decisions video for David Ross calling on Christopher Morel to bunt with runners on first and third and none out down 2. Ross has been pretty incompetent this year and he’s destined to be in a dumb decisions video

[@CTubeMan]

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about the bizarre explanation given by Vikings Receiver Aundrae Allison as to why he felt he should wear #84 in 2007.

[@matthewstewart7712]

This doesn’t sound like the same guy

[@slibertas1996]

The #19 is part of the Colts legacy not the Ravens legacy. The colts are in Indy. When the colts moved to Indy they took all of Johnny U’s legacy with them. So I have no issue with that an using it in Baltimore (Who should not have a franchise while St. Louis should)

[@dtplusthepoints3409]

This is not, by any means, tantilizing subject manner. But, the question that no one has asked is, if it was such am egregious thing, why did the Seahawks ALLOW him to wear that #. They couldve just said no. If he balked at that, then hit the road.

[@tracylareau6493]

when is the championship game?

[@CTubeMan]

JG9, if you had the power, what would you say is the “Statute of Limitations” for a jersey number to be out of circulation? If you want to speak specifically to Krieg, go for it.

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

Hall of Famer: retire Team legend but not a HOF player: 10 years, but only reissue if necessary

[@ThatonecrazyJagsfan]

Let's go Jaguars

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

He was loved even less in Detroit. Sorry, but there's nothing wrong with wearing jersey #19 in Baltimore. It's the Ravens, not the Colts. It'd be like someone wearing #34 for the Houston Texans (Earl Campbell for the Houston Oilers) if his number was retired by the Oilers.

[@stevenbauer4799]

No jerry rice stubbornly wearing largent's no. 80 (i know largent gave him his blessing-what else was he supposed to say) for that cup of coffee stint with seahags in '04 was the most controversial and stubborn jersey number in seahags history. Rice was so washed up by then and should have just retired when raiders let him go. Just an i wanted to pad the stats a little more move.

[@astrostar49]

Largent could have simply said "no". No one forced him to give out an endorsement.

[@ihateapplebeeswa]

On the contrary Largent was told that Rice asked if he could please wear his number while Rice was told Largent was cool with it. Lies. Google it up

[@mgb4692]

@@ihateapplebeeswa Also confirmed by Chris Cluff in "The Good The Bad the Ugly: The history of the Seattle Seahawks"

[@J-LO_18]

@@ihateapplebeeswayup, reporter or someone told Rice that Largent wants you to wear it and told Largent that Rice really wants to wear it

[@J-LO_18]

And I saw Rice last TD wearing Largents number 80

[@mekhan-sj7vt]

hi

[@Fireyninjadog]

13:10 wtf

[@rokrV]

Nice vid. I liked the claustrophobic feel of the editing/vintage Friesz clips-that felt appropriate somehow. I grew up watching Friesz, backing up and starting every so often. It does make sense he’d want to keep wearing the number he’d always played in. It’s too bad the two couldn’t connect publicly back then. Perhaps they couldn’t connect as easily as today. Lotta ego with two small college qbs! I’m sure I’d think differently if I were an older Hawkshead! I’ll add this to my epic chronological hawks history yt list, thanks!

[@peterd7653]

Friez is barely a foot note in Seahawks history anyway.

[@bobbynesbitt1863]

I love DK he was awesome 😎

[@barbaracaroll]

Seattle never won anything with him plus really has no history of winning outside of spurts here and there

[@curtisjoseph]

Dave Krieg was that generation's David Carr. *yawn*

[@barbaracaroll]

@@curtisjoseph lol good comparison 😂

[@jeffanderson3962]

As a Seahawks fan who was around then I agree. I liked Krieg but people also forget he was a fumble machine. Never even considered him as a HOF guy.

[@jefesbox]

@@jeffanderson3962It was those small hands lol

[@rwaitt14153]

The Seahawks had really good teams in the 80's. The problem was that the AFCW was absolutely stacked with good teams. It was tough to get anywhere back then.

[@mrmonty86]

John Friesz; a crappy QB with a huge ego.

[@mgb4692]

Indicative of how useless the Hawks were in the Behring years that Friesz actually started *against* them in the '94 opener in DC, was terrible, and naturally, with David acting as de facto GM the next year they would go out and grab him to be Mirer's backup

[@charismatic9904]

Dez Bryant wearing 88 for the cowboys is worse.

[@charismatic9904]

Listen to ONLY number that the seahawks should retire and never allow anyone to wear is #3 Rick Mirer was the best ever. 😂😊