The Most Controversial SDA teaching

[@whatyuhthink]

And this is why the SDA Church NEEDS TO CONTINUE teachING AND PREACHING The TRUTH BECUASE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING INTO WHAT WE BELIEVE

[@kingsamuelofficial]

No law, no sin. No sin, no need for Jesus. No need for Jesus, then you are perfect by yourself…..

[@SamSups]

Sorry, you got it wrong defending the LAW, saying NO LAW, NO SIN, therefore NO JESUS. Before the Law sin EXISTED, but when Abraham believed (had FAITH), GOD CREDITED ABRAHAM UPON HIS FAITH AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. GENESIS 15:6

[@ep73rhodes83]

What you said does not make sense as far as the Bible is concerned. Sin didn't start with Abraham. Law and sin existed before Abraham and Moses. Did Lucifer sin against God? Did Adam and Eve sin against God? What about Cain? Did he sin against God? Do you know which sins Eve committed? What is the biblical definition for sin? Answer.

[@ep73rhodes83]

Just to be clear, my comment was in response to @SamSups who disagreed with @Kingsamuelofficial.

[@fournierro1]

The point is so simple. The wages of sin is death. Sin is the transgression of the law of God psalms 111 : 7, 8, 10. All of God’s Commandments are sure. They stand Fast of ever and ever. Those who say God’s ten Commandment laws are no more needed are on the side of the idiot of Revelation 12 : 17.

[@kingsamuelofficial]

@@ep73rhodes83 don’t back out now mate make your point.

[@raulshaw4365]

Grace without Law is a DISGRACE. God requires OBEDIENCE

[@nsabagwabrenda9924]

If Grace gives you freedom to sin,or gives a sinner a feeling of peace while sinning,then that grace is not from GOD,for GOD'S grace enables man to understand HIS voice and teachings,Pastor!!! I always pray for people like you to receive GOD'S grace so that you get the true revelation God's law reveals the nature of SIN ,and you are free to ran away from it or disobey, Let me ask,Can worship an Idol? Can you Kill? Theresfore the law is still acting, God's law is Holy,and anyone who disobeys it becomes sinful, 1John,3:4(Definition of sin)

[@letsomathambo]

Did you listen?

[@ji7448]

Thank you my brother for making it plain. God bless.🙏🏿❤️

[@keithraynthere6594]

In the SDA there is no teaching to say the Law was done away......i am not sure which kind of SDA is being talked about here

[@joelchirchir242]

The presenter has not said that the law was done away with.

[@naomiaddai2095]

God bless you abundantly, Pastor 🙏🙏🙏

[@voiceofhopemedia]

And bless you too

[@MaryNyarkoh-w8y]

As born again Christians, we don't have to even worry about the law. For the book of Hebrews 8 tells us that we will all know God from the least of us so that no one will teach his brother the law

[@voiceofhopemedia]

Which law are you talking about? Do you mean born again Christians can kill or steal?

[@nanakyeremeh7839]

if we should not care about the law, then we shouldn't border ourselves to obey God? we should worship idols,? mention His name in vain?. We should not obey our parents? We should not care about the law, so we can kill? or no one teaches you that stealing is a sin? Then, why do we preach on the pulpit? You shall know the truth and it shall make you free. John 8:32

[@aussierose9015]

Difference between Moses law and Gods law

[@SamSups]

Remember, Jesus said, he demanded MERCY NOT SACRIFICE. The Old Covenant leaders knew and kept the law but were fighting and killing and committing adultery and you name it. The new Commandment of Jesus Christ as us to do what the Good Samaritan did UNLIKE the Pharisees who obeyed the law but in their mind said, "We did not kill nor stole from the poor man in pain on the road.' But the Good Samaritan offered mercy accordingly, and that is what Jesus called his New Commandment. John 13:34. If you love, according to the laws of the Holy Spirit you won't break the law(Gal :22-23) adhering to the Holy Spirit which discerns Jesus Christ accordingly. (John 16:13.)

[@cliffmgwisi1159]

@SamSups what, they knew and kept the law by stealing and committing adultery? Where do you get that teaching? You mean they kept the law by breaking it.

[@malcolmnoel9044]

The bible teaches that God's MORAL LAW is PERFECT. See Psalms 19 :7 The bible teaches that God's MORAL LAW is PURE. See Psalms 19 :8 . The bible teaches that God's MORAL LAW is HOLY, JUST AND GOOD . See Romans 7:12. The bible teaches that God's MORAL LAW lasts FOREVER. See Psalms 111:7,8. The bible teaches that God is coming for a commandment keeping people . See Revelation 22:14 The bible teaches that the seventh day weekly sabbath .. WILL BE KEPT IN HEAVEN. See Isaiah 66 :23. The bible teaches that God wants us to meditate on his law both day and night . See Psalms 1:2 The bible teaches that God wants everyone to be AQUAINTED with his law . See Ecclesiastes 12 :13 , 14. The bible teaches that SIN is defined as the transgression of God's moral law .See 1 John 3:4 Since there would be no sin in heaven ... everyone would be keeping God law . See Nahum 1 :9 (Affliction ...which is cause by sin. ...will not arise a second time .)

[@voiceofhopemedia]

God bless you

[@mbonyctee2859]

Thank you Pastor , this is the truth the Adventist preach and you made it simply to consume!😊

[@yaadansoa3329]

OK interesting, but I'm asking you, is the Grace of Almighty God allow us to sin?,

[@joelchirchir242]

Forgiving grace washes away our past sins so that we may start on a clean slate. The empowering grace (justifying grace) enables us to keep the law. However we may still decide to sin even with the provision of grace. This is taking the grace of God in vain. But after being sealed it shall be difficult to sin again.

[@geraldholloway8133]

I understand as I am a SDA, I was an Anglican b4 2002

[@voiceofhopemedia]

God bless you so much

[@nsoroma_00]

Wow❤ this is so clear. Some people have just misinterpreted all verses regarding the Law. I love this teaching, may God bless you more Pastor🙏🏿.

[@voiceofhopemedia]

Amen and amen. Please share with all

[@nsoroma_00]

@@voiceofhopemedia Alright

[@allendlikando496]

The only controversial teaching is your teaching which suggests that the law was done with. The commandments or the law is God's character. Should we do away with the law, God forgive that's what Paul talks about. Stop misleading the people

[@voiceofhopemedia]

I don't think you watched the video?

[@letsomathambo]

Hes right there with you, listen to him

[@joelchirchir242]

You didn't listen.

[@Donebsen92]

Should we continue disobeying the commandments because of the grace will save us from being judged under the law

[@larrybedouin2921]

To be under Grace, means that sin no longer has dominion over you. For Christ is the end [objective] of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. {Romans 10:4} That the righteousness of the law *might be fulfilled in us* who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but *they that are after the Spirit* the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but *to be spiritually minded is life and peace* Because *the carnal mind is enmity against God* for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. {Romans 8:4-7} I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then *with the mind I myself serve the law of God* but with the flesh the law of sin. {Romans 7:25} Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or *of obedience* unto righteousness? {Romans 6:16}

[@joelchirchir242]

Grace here is the power to obey God's law and hence avoid sin. Rom.6:15.

[@carlostrotman29]

Let me ask you a simple question, please tell us what is sin?

[@voiceofhopemedia]

According to 1 John 3:4 sin is the transgression of the law

[@joelchirchir242]

The presenter venerates the law. You are not listening patiently.

[@UserUser-gq1ir]

Be blessed pastor

[@RenatoD.Demavibas]

Only the Ten Commandments. It is the ordinances, and the rites of worship and the feasts that had been had been do away with. Obedience is the fruit of Faith.

[@voiceofhopemedia]

So you mean now as a believer of Christ I can steal?

[@RenatoD.Demavibas]

@@voiceofhopemedia of course, the Ten Commandments still stands, and civil and criminal laws of world governments are based on it. Those who promote and advocate the doctrines that Ten Commandments were included in the abolition because of Grace, still follow it, but AVOID THE FOURTH, BECAUSE THEY ARE USED OR PREFER TO WORK ON SATURDAY, AND ENJOY FOLLOWING SUNDAY REST AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES.

[@RenatoD.Demavibas]

@@voiceofhopemedia Christ set an example of following the Father, and so He lived a sinless life while on earth. His Father's Commandments He followed. so, why won't you?

[@cyprianpeters9110]

Is sin the transgression of the commandment law? if so explain Rom 514 and explain it through the word please.

[@voiceofhopemedia]

1 John 3:4 defines sin as the transgression of the law. Adam's transgression according to romans 5:14 was also a transgression against God's law

[@joelchirchir242]

Adam sinned by breaking the first commandment. Rom. 6:16 implies that you become a servant and worshiper of the one whose voice you obey. Adam sidelined God's voice as he hates the forbidden fruit in obedience to the voice of Satan. The first commandment forbids is to worship another god befyGod.

[@merlynpowell3444]

How do you know when you sin?

[@MaryNyarkoh-w8y]

Also, according to the books of Romans and Galatians, the law brings wrath, is not of faith and by its deeds no man will be justified. Let's focus on the Grace of God that brings salvation and by the Grace, you will be empowered for greater works. God bless you, Pastor.

[@TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl]

Paul, though, also says " It is not the hears of the law that shall be justified, but the doers of the law shall be justified."

[@CleopatraMubemba-od3dv]

What you are talking my dear doesn't contradict what SDA church teach. We do not obey the law of God to be saved but because we have been saved. In fact that contradicts protestant teaching that ten commandments were done away on the cross by Christ.But you said it all that Jesus died the death that was ours for we to live the life that was his. So, through the power of Christ I can keep all the Commandments of God including the fourth. Now, we may conclude that whoever is at war with the law of God and claiming that is not needed, is the one who is still in the flesh because those who are in the spirit they delight in the law of Jehovah psalm 1:1-3.In other words, SDAs are right because they are doing what Jesus told them to do,to keep it through his might and teach others to do likewise. Shalom shalom

[@carlnaitram6522]

but How can i keep the Sabbath as it is laid out in the OT from sunset to sunset if I live in a country where for months there are no sunsets

[@carlnaitram6522]

Your principles are. correct conclusion contradicts your doctrinal and practical points for You still sin and break the law and if you break the law in one point you are guilty of all

[@carlnaitram6522]

does eating pork a civil dietary law if so then it has blotted out. why then SDAS make it such a big sin to eat it. Also if you keep pigs then it is wrong because it is an unclean animal yet SDAS keep dogs and other unclean animals in their houses..

[@carlnaitram6522]

YOU SOUND SO SELF RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE SOUNDS AS IF YOU DONT COMMIT ANY SINS AND HENCE DONT BREAK THE LAW.

[@carlnaitram6522]

so according to SDAS DOCTRINE WHEN YOU SIN YOU LOSE YOUR SALVATION ETC

[@theloudcryministry]

All I can say. You have no clue on which law was done away with. The Bible says in 1 John 2:4. "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.". It also says in Roman 6:1-2. 1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, (breaking the Ten Commandments) that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? The Bible has many other countless passages to support obedience to God's Ten Commandments, and you choose that route. I pray you would reconsider. The definition for Sin is found in 1 John 3:4. "Whosoever committeth sin (breaking the Ten Commandments) transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Then the Bible says this in 2 Peter 2:4-6 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, (breaking the Ten Commandments) but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly. God left us an example on what is going to happen to those that do not obey, and He means what He says. Again I pray that will reconsider. God Bless.

[@jeffreyoivo]

My brother , you seem to answer the question yourself from the bible. Jesus said, I did not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. The law shows and points out our wrong and makes us realize the need for Jesus forgiveness. Seventh day Adventist believe in the word of God alone. The 10 commandments are part of the scriptures and was written by God himself and has not changed and will remain until all things passes away. You see , you just romans 8:9 and you just explained it. That's what the law does!!! So what are you trying to say about Seventh day Adventists regarding the law? I think you are misinterpreting

[@voiceofhopemedia]

You are right. That is exactly what I said in the video

[@EarlMaphike-st5pl]

If you read, Romans 6:14) you must also read Galatians 5:18. By the way, Paul is not the only one that speak about the law. Jesus speak in the book Matthew 5:17-20) just like James 2:10--12 finely Jesus said John 14:15. Remember Jesus saved us not Paul. You need to ask the help of the Holly Spirit. Many people miss understand the writing of Paul. Including you my brother sorry you need to study more. God ten commandments, must obay and practice it.

[@charlessabuta8934]

If there's no law, no sin, no grace and no judgement. SDA teaching based on the Bible only.

[@RocksieKoa-ul7pl]

John 14:15 read "If you love me keep my commandments. Whoever does not obey God is aliar.

[@AlbertinoSchorea-d1l]

Jesus says if you love mi keep my commands. Revelation 14:12 here is the patient of the saints that keep the commands of God and the faith of Jesus. Now, which commands Jesus and John was talking about.

[@giftmuntanga2354]

Maybe the thing you don't understand is the term law. If you decide to not obey the law you create your own law of not abiding by God's laws. Which simply means you believe you are by yourself. Understand that law brings order that is why christ lived sinless so the law is important. I wish to explain more but I hope you find what you are looking for

[@paulwatson4574]

Brother please go and learn the difference between the moral and the ceremonial law, the word of God said in 1 john 2: says he who says I know him and keeps not his commands is a liar and the truth is not in him.

[@EarlMaphike-st5pl]

Gods seventh day. Sabbath is still very much important. Jesus capt it pual capt it and the disciples of Jesus. Sunday believes are disobedience to God's seventh day Sabbath.

[@voiceofhopemedia]

God bless you so much

[@osofomaamefelicianyamaah1414]

You are true pastor may God bless you

[@voiceofhopemedia]

God bless you too

[@HaggaiArito]

“27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. ” Romans 3:27-31 KJV Brother Paul's epistle is too hard for you? WHEN he uses the law He refers to the the ceremonial statutes like circumcision Don't wrestle the Scripture Peter warns all. “As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. ” 2 Peter 3:16

[@maryachuti4997]

Saved by faith is true but grace does not allow us to commit a adultery or steal, and this law that you av been freed from is only the sabbath? The rest its okay you can keep them 1 John 5:3

[@joelchirchir242]

No bbl verse says that the Sabbath was done away with. Even if we keep nine out ten commandments we shall have broken all. Jam.2:9-10. Besides, sin is the transgression of at least one commandments. 1Sam.15:24.

[@carlnaitram6522]

ALL ADVENTISTS BREAK THE SABBATH .

[@josephyasi101]

Don't worry about law, if you believe in Jesus and his Pure Gospel than already You will not break any law. Keep any day holy and worship God, not Saturday alone.

[@kingsamuelofficial]

You can keep all you want… But God ordained a day since creation and MADE IT HOLY. You can’t undo it. Or change it.

[@justinmaranga4978]

Remember THE sabbath dayto keep it holy. THE not A

[@AliciaThomas-h3z]

So now you can do away with the laws of the land because the laws of the land are based on the 10 commandments. Why then are thieves and murderers and rapists etc still in prison if the law has been done awY with. Please explain. You need to pray fir guidance from the Holy Spirit. I pray for you. You are so confused. The ceremonial laws were done away with at the cross. When a person sins now do they have to kill an animal no because Jesus blood has been shed so the ceremonial laws have donecaway with. The 10 commandments portrays our Holy God's character. Go and search the scriptures again for in them you find eternal life and they testify of Jesus. You are so confused mister.

[@joelchirchir242]

You are not patient enough to listen. The presenter is in agreement with you.

[@geraldholloway8133]

Pastor, I like your greeting at the end "Shalom". Remain Blessed

[@voiceofhopemedia]

Shalom my dear friend

[@philanirobson8995]

Psalms 19:7 (KJV) The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. According to you,that is FAULTY,how can it be perfect and faulty at the same time,which should we believe?

[@joelchirchir242]

He said the location of the law as inscribed on stone left us faulty for we couldn't keep the law. But when the law was written on our hearts we could now keep it. The dynamics of the old covenant was faulty from the side of man, not from the side of the perfect law from a perfect God. The presenter venerates God's law as far as I understood.

[@philanirobson8995]

@@joelchirchir242 We were faulty from the moment we sinned, our being faulty was not caused by the Law but it just exposed it.

[@philanirobson8995]

@@joelchirchir242 What is different between the Law on stone and the Law in our hearts,the requirements are still the same

[@joelchirchir242]

On stone there was no empowering grace to enable us to keep it. In our hearts through the grace of Christ we can keep it. Otherwise the law is the very same one.

[@philanirobson8995]

@@joelchirchir242 indeed the Law is the same and the means by which it is obeyed/kept is still the same, the very grace that you and me are covered with,is the same grace that was available to anyone who surrendered their life to God by faith

[@MaryNyarkoh-w8y]

The SDA teaching on the law is not as controversial as the teaching that Sunday worship will be the mark of the beast in the future. I don't understand why Sunday worshippers can't have the mark of the beast today but in the future meanwhile the issue in the future will still be around Sunday worship.

[@muzooradan5725]

Time will tell. The reason many xtian doesn't know the mark of the beast is because they don't know the beast. So would tell me what the beast is?

[@joelchirchir242]

Probation is still open, and it will close after everyone has been warned enough against Sunday error. My.24:24; Rev.,14:9-12.

[@philanirobson8995]

The problem pastor,is that you do kill,you do steal,you lie and you covet and this can only be known if the Law of God is still in effect, which it is.Know which Law was done away with,don't assume every law was done away with, no government can reign without a law to guide it's citizens.

[@sylviamanring9975]

Romans. Not the hears of the law but the doers of the law are justified! If you love me Keep my commandments John Revel here are they that Keep the commandments and have the faith of jesus. Nowhere in scripture are the 10 commandment nullified. Break one GUILTY OF ALL.

[@larrybedouin2921]

To be under Grace, means that sin no longer has dominion over you. For Christ is the end [objective] of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. {Romans 10:4} That the righteousness of the law *might be fulfilled in us* who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but *they that are after the Spirit* the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but *to be spiritually minded is life and peace* Because *the carnal mind is enmity against God* for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. {Romans 8:4-7} I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then *with the mind I myself serve the law of God* but with the flesh the law of sin. {Romans 7:25} Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or *of obedience* unto righteousness? {Romans 6:16}

[@gunnargarda]

It's not the Sabbath that is the problem. Saturday or Sunday? It's all the other funny stuff they come up with . EGWHITE is the most obvious.

[@samuelhughes289]

Right from the very beginning, I knew you were going to spawn this in a different direction having started your argument well. Like I always say, SDA is false and can never be true untill they come to the actual teachings of scriptures. Question: Do Christians sin? Yes they do, but in what manner? This is what Adventists are unable to recognize. Sin was already in the world before the Law was given (Galatians 3). Now sin is described to be transgression of the Law so how was Cane slewing his brother was put to him as sin at a time when the law was not given? Because sin had already entered into creation. Know this, Adam ate fruit that contained knowledge of good and knowledge of bad and possessing this power meant he has to decide for himself, as a result GOD who was good in himself and had given all that is good to man and was already deciding for man, had to separate himself from man, because as God put it in Genesis that "Behold, man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil". Now, it turned out to be that, mans state innocence and righteousness actually wasn't his own doing but rather the spirit of God dwelling with him from the very beginning, and so found himself naked. Fast forward to the time of the Law. Now this was at a time where the spirit of God had not been given to men. Now man although possessing knowledge of what is good, he is unable to do what is good. The law therefore made them captives to sin or proved to be weak in the flesh. Now here's the confusion. Adventists claim that now that we have the Holy Spirit, we can keep the Law but NO. Let me explain: The Law and it's ordinances were not the actual thing or the real thing but rather it was a symbolic presentation of the true thing that was to come and the body of that shadow was Jesus Christ himself. Remember this, the manner that fell from heaven was kept in a jar and placed in the ark of covenant and the tablets on which the law was written was also placed in it and also Aaron's rod that budded was placed in it, but what does this mean? The ark of the covenant was the body of Christ. The jar of bread from heaven (manner), the tablets on which the law is written and the rod of Aaron symbolizes that in Christ, who is the word of God, we will be provided for, we will receive his righteousness according to the Law, and he is the high priest interceding or doing all these for us. You see, believing in Christ Jesus, the righteousness of the Law is bestowed upon you and this is not your own doing. Therefore since the righteousness demanded of us by the law has now been fulfilled for us through Christ, there is no need to place yourself under the Law, this only signals that, you do not need Christ's righteousness but rather you are fulfilling your own righteousness by the Law. Here's the problem, Adventists do not believe that atonement was finished on the cross, oh No No No, they believe that atonement of our sins is actually and currently still ongoing but scriptures teachings that, atonement was actually finished at the cross. Remember on the cross, when he realised that the Father was pleased and that all has been fulfilled, he requested for water and was given vinegar not the one mixed with gall, raw vinegar soaked in a sponge and was given him (John 19) he gave up the ghost. On the cross, he said it is finished (Matthew 23). Adventists do not believe in the spirit of God, trust me, they say it but do not believe it. They reject the Scriptural teaching that man is spirit, soul and flesh. They simply deny the spiritual aspect of the gospel so are unable to grasp what scriptures truly teaches. They do not study scriptures but rather the writings of Ellen White and this just projects their ignorance of scriptures. A great majority of them do not know scriptures, they only know their verses which they always take out of context to suit their 28 fundamental beliefs. I mean, Adventism bus just FALSE and can never, I repeat can never be true.

[@joelchirchir242]

Welcome: in the name of Jesus whom you love allow me to comment on your honest contribution. 1. The moral law is a transcript of the WILL and character of God. Rom.2:18; Ps.40:8. Therefore God's law is as old as God. That's why the angels in heaven keep the same commandments that we are supposed to also keep. Ps.103:18-20. Christ Himself keeps the law because, being written in His heart, the law is part and parcel of His character. Jn.15:10; Ps.40:8. Adam and Cain sinned by violating the first and sixth commandment, respectively. For if there was no law they couldn't have sinned. Rom.4:15; 5:13. Therefore being obeyed in heaven by the angels before Adam's creation, the law was existing from Genesis only that it had not been written on tables of stone. 2.The law, ALL the ten commandments of God are righteous because they are the perfect principles of God's righteous character. Ps.119:172; Rom.8:4; Ps.19:9. And unless we experience these principles ourselves we shall fail to acquire the righteous character of God. 3. Prejudice and hatred against fellow Christians on the basis of different faiths and denominations is dangerous. What you need is the truth from the scriptures. Now, did God promise us prophets through the gift of prophecy? The answer is yes! Mt.23:34; Eph.4:11. Your duty is to test the prophets before despising their contribution. 1Jn.4:1; 1Thes.5:20 - 21. If Ellen White is a true prophet of God then you shall be quenching or offending the Spirit by despising her. 1Thes.5:18. That's an unforgivable sin. God has given you both intelligence and time to test the prophets but you have chosen the popular way out, just to despise wholesale.

[@samuelhughes289]

@@joelchirchir242 I am not going to pretend that you truly understand scriptures because all the quotations you quoted you take it out of context. Maybe in your mind you are actually saying something but these things have already been taught you to say, in other words mindless obedience thou you say to me that I have intelligence to think and test Ellen White as a true prophet or not. I have red her GC book and found most things in there to be uninspired. Ephesians 4:11 do speak of "prophecy" being parts of the gifts but if you are reading from the KJV and RSV and other translations, then the prophecy becomes translated as prophets. Now whether you take prophecy or prophet, it will still not support prophets still being used by God. 1. The gift of prophecy doesn't necessarily mean one is a prophet. Through Christ Jesus, we received the gift of prophecy that sons and daughters shall prophesy and this came through in Acts 2. 2. If we take the translation to be prophet, then we should know that, at the time the prophets were being used by God, there were no apostles, and at the time that the apostles were being used, there were no prophets being used. So if Ellen White was the first fruit of the spirit of prophecy, then why isn't the office of a prophet continuing in the Adventists church? You see, either way you take, Adventism is false in this sense. Now, you speak of Angels adhering to to 10 commandments in heaven as well. So is that to tell that Angels are keeping the Sabbath too. Is there day and night in heaven? We cant choose to be this naive, can we? Commandments can come in a whole lot of form. Adam was told to not eat of the tree, was there any commandments telling him to rest on the Sabbath or to not covet the house of his fellow men. If yes then who was this man? Oh come on. Let not add to scriptures just because we want something to be true or think that something must be true. Your will is yours alone. Concerning the 10 commandments, I choose not to delve into that but if man could've fulfilled the Law, then why did Jesus has to come to fulfill it? Romans 10:4 destroys Adventists notion adherence to the Law. You have no one to blame for not being able to understand scriptures.

[@joelchirchir242]

​@@samuelhughes289Only the truth shall set us free. However the truth in the word of God is apparently offensive and divisive. Mt.10:34; Heb.4:12. The saints shall endure persecution for witnessing the truth. Rev.12:17; 14:12. Nevertheless, they have a duty to God even as they shall be held accountable for lost souls. ISA.58:1; Ez.3:18; 33:6,8.

[@johnmidi8689]

What you are saying about the Law contradict what Christ Jesus says about the Law in Luke 16:17 so you are a liar and the Father of all lies is always the Evil one himself so be careful what you preach brother

[@DennisDakota-eq6pk]

Yeah your teaching is seriously controversial it only shows how shallow your biblical understanding is. When the Bible says you're under the law it doesn't mean you have to be lawless. The Ten Commandments are eternal thus why Jesus said not even one jot or tittle will be removed till Heaven and earth pass. Has Heaven and earth passed yet.

[@jerrykiwanuka1525]

Today's Christians really hate God's law, no wonder there is too much lawlessness in the church today, they say implicitly, you can go on with your sins , don't worry Jesus saved you. What sheer nosense5😮

[@carlnaitram6522]

I bet you are referring to the Sabbath when you said Christians hate the law. Who have you ever heard say you can go on in your sin ….send me the quotation

[@fournierro1]

Jesus died to take away our sins. Not to find a way to justifying them.

[@fournierro1]

I know you know that.

[@dontfeedthepirates]

Sin is defined as transgression of the law (ten commandments) 1 John 3:4. The ordinances of sacrifice and mosaic laws are “nailed to his cross”. The ten commandments point out sin, The relationship between law and grace can be understood this way: Where there is no law, sin is not imputed. Where there is no sin, grace is not imputed.

[@TheInjuredPreacher1844]

I feel pity for you