THE MOST EXPENSIVE 2019 DRIVER IS NOW THE CHEAPEST IN 2020!?

[@oldtimer5111]

Just thought I'd say, I love these second hand club and price reviews .

[@SASGolf]

Thanks for watching them mate! I find them interesting to make to be fair, best of both worlds.

[@masterbeernuts9344]

I've hit both the 455 and the 460 (in reg flex). They do get out there - and forgiving. 455 goes like the Callaway epic flash sub zero and the 460 is samey to M2/4/6. Good clubs.

[@timlyon3570]

Saw this video a couple of weeks ago, went over and bid on a brand new 747. Got it for $155. It's an absolute steal. Thanks.

[@jamestown4867]

10/13/2022. Picked up a pristine 455 in Japan for ¥12,000 or about 72GBP. Got delivered last night and can’t wait to try it out. My TS 3 got a scratch on the crown from letting my friend’s son hit it. I love the Titleist and have never had a driver that gave me so much confidence. But the scratch, I can’t live with. A replacement (TSi 3) goes for about ¥30,000 so at half the price, I thought I’d give the Honma a try. I generally never allow anyone to hit any of my woods or hybrids and if they insist, I tell them, “scratch it, you buy it.”

[@SASGolf]

Thanks For Watching Guys! I know I didn’t test it but any 2019 driver for £150 is a steal. Let me know your thoughts. 👌

[@jaybyrne4562]

I tested this when it came out with another KZbinr. It looks crap doesn't sound great, but went miles, and I mean average carry for me on GC2 was over, 300 yds. (my driver was 280 yds). BUT everyone else who tested it, slated it! Nobody got on with it. The reviews were that bad it didn't even get posted!

[@uNkLeRaRa4]

These still go for $500 used here in Canada. About a month ago I picked up a Mizuno ST190 in basically brand new condition with head cover but no tool for $200 CAD. Now that was a steal!

[@markrobert244]

Hi Simon, great content as always. Is the value in the head, shaft, or both? $120 for a brand new head on eBay seems great...

[@dangerdad1970]

I just won a auction on ebay australia and got the tw747 brand new not second hand. $315 australia including post.

[@ciaranbyrne1906]

I am currently in the process of bidding on several of these thanks to this video :)

[@James_Vaughn]

Marketing, and the resulting customer perception, does make a big difference.

[@puttputt524]

James Vaughn their goal was to sell to americans and europeans at a comparable price, while dropping the price point for JDM clubs. They accomplished neither. Too expensive for the west, too cheap for the east.

[@NeilJones-y8u]

Just bought 747 460 brand new $A 300 , used at driving range and hits and feels great , nice control , not super long but good enough . Found it easy to draw and generally decent control .

[@andrewlarmour2946]

I think the people selling Honma drivers on eBay just had a nice surprise. Price spike incoming!

[@canadafirst8985]

couple months ago there were tons of these on ebay us going for under $200 canadian and the rose proto irons and 747v iron sets going for around $600

[@MrGlobeking]

I almost pulled the trigger on them a few times

[@mikeprobert3348]

I worked for Honma for a year in 2018 , they sadly decided to go after the mass market rather than stay at the super premium end of the market as they had been at for 50 years previously, the move to go after mass market was a disaster and it’s ruined the brand

[@barrysmiley5434]

I love the honma 747 clubs . got the driver for around 140 dollars brand new. Then got the 3 & 5 woods. Love the feel off the face.

[@Not_To_Golf_Is_Not_An_Option]

Currently you can buy the 747 range dirt cheap for new. Like 195$ for the driver, set of irons around $700-$800 hybrids $119

[@kilometersbennetdyson2399]

I’m waiting on the prices of 2i/driving irons to go down, prices seem to keep going up for these clubs lately.

[@SASGolf]

2 irons are always sought after, so imagine they will hold there price better to be honest. We shall see though mate. 👍

[@xavierhoward1214]

Always enjoy the videos , just got the deal of my summer which was full of reselling or trading in second hand golf clubs. Last week I picked a taylormade spider tour limited edition(red) putter with cover for $45 at a garage sale. On the hunt today just out of town to pick up a taylormade RBZ Driver S (flex) for $20 Off facebook marketplace

[@chriswixon6955]

Thanks for the advice, Went straight on Ebay and picked up a Honma Bezeal for 90 quid. Suits me much better than my Ping 410 which i received a lot more for from a leading used clubs retailer.

[@ddarrenwillsond3620]

I just bought, cleaned and restore a set of 1967/1969 Top-Flite Professional blades ( Bird on Bird ) . I got them looking mint !

[@markclements7055]

Played the 737 455 for a year and loved it. Would love to hear what you think of the Radius putter. I have one in my bag and it's as good as anything I've tried.

[@jimadams5279]

You are correct, on Ebay in the US I see a lot of them for 78 to 120 pounds. Cool but doubt if I change my Great Big Bertha Black Diamond but I never hit a Honma diver.

[@puttputt524]

I love Honma golf clubs. I keep a set of LB280 irons at my grandfather’s house because Asian golf clubs draw less attention (good and bad) at driving ranges and golf courses there. It is just for the occasion I do not feel like explaining where I live and why I have loud American golf clubs (as novel as Callaway is there). The honma TW series is their budget model, scaled for international pricing. Expensive honma clubs go really nuts. I have seen Asian businessman and military generals with Honma Beres four stars. These are guys who have Maruman Majesty clubs as well. Edit: I picked up the 3 hybrid and 5 wood in June for 75$ each.

[@rossline2543]

PXG Drivers Gen 2 have dropped from over $570 to $275. I came across a few Honma drivers at local shops that were trade ins. Not bad but I picked up a Taylormade M4 for $150 in great condition.

[@useyourblues]

I'm looking to upgrade from my old TaylorMade Burner Superfast 2.0 for a newer (not new) driver. I hit my driver just fine, but people give me a look on the teebox when I pull out a driver from 2011 with some sky marks on the white crown from my horrible first year of playing. I've never hit a Homna of any kind. But I do love a good deal...

[@davidmillertemporaryworks]

Could you check out PRGR Japanese clubs? I'm selling some. They are such high quality, expensive but as you say not Taylormade, Callaway etc

[@ChoppedMutton]

I just picked up a new Mizuno ST190 for a similar price (approx. £160) but they originally retailed at the opposite end of the specturm from Honma in 2019. I've seen some some good deals on F9 Speedbacks as well.

[@ChoppedMutton]

Guess I should have waited until the very end of the vid before mentioning the ST190 and F9. Sportchek was selling off new old stock F9s at the equivalent of £199.

[@cdolson5889]

Got mine new in wrapper for around $150 USD from eBay. Reputable dealer unloading a very large stock in auctions. Club feels great and really rips.

[@flipdawhip2573]

Is it any good?

[@bennettfornal6952]

Their irons are a bargain now too. Just got a set of 747v's

[@relaxnchill9335]

good vid as per usual, has the same happened to their irons?

[@docomo661]

I had this driver for about a year and barely hit it, couldn’t launch it properly and it wasn’t going anywhere. Also felt way too light. Best thing about it is the head cover, super light and easy to put on and take off.

[@kurtiss3227]

One just sold in the States on eBay brand new still in the wrapping $113.50. Also selling on eBay brand new in the wrapping at buy it now prices between $169 and $189. BRAND NEW!!!!!!!

[@petermolyneux9544]

Went straight onto Ebay to look for a left handed one of these. Not a one in the UK. Plenty in the USA and Canada for quite a lot more than you suggest together with the usual rip-off postage charge. Oh well....

[@robertjones-kb8tu]

I got mine for 159 used at golf galaxy here in America and it out performed my cobra f9

[@stacksey1]

You'd wonder what happened with Justin Rose, a PR disaster

[@joelcopeland3018]

Money from sponsor is probably the reason...

[@josey777cat]

Used Nike vr pro combo and they are up there with any of the new stuff out there. Shame they stop making irons.

[@SmokeyRobbo]

Looks like your video has had the same impact as when Pete Finch did the Callaway Fusion driver a couple of months ago. I looked last night and there were no used TW747 on eBay apart from professional sellers after £250+. I hope you're on commission!

[@bradunderwood1012]

Chris Robinson I just looked and I think the cheapest was 395 American. Most were over 450

[@michealweathers4769]

Speaking of Japanese brand drivers. Have you been able to find a Miura driver?

[@mmlws8042]

So what’s the problem with HONMA then the price huh? The design that’s all?? Most of Asia play with HONMA it is the top brand in Asia.

[@tillbabby3]

The fairway wood looks a similar bargain. Is that a forgiving club too?

[@SASGolf]

I haven’t hit the fairway to be honest mate. If it doesn’t have adjustable weighting then I would say it’s forgiving in its design. If you can get one under £100 then you can’t go wrong.

[@puttputt524]

rodger till the fairway wood is nice 👍 i have the 5 wood in stiff... but if you prefer hybrids I am enjoying those even more.

[@matthewyounge4536]

Would you sell your Mizuno irons and wedges from your recent full bag video

[@matthewyounge4536]

I’m in uk

[@dangerdad1970]

I just won a auction on ebay australia and got the tw747 brand new not second hand. $315 australia including post.

[@MrTonygarcia729]

Just found one in LH on rockbottomgolf brand new for $199.... I couldn't believe it. Gonna buy

[@landonwenzel]

Almost bought one of these a couple weeks back for $105 USD without a shaft, but then realized that you can only use Honma Shafts :(

[@willl5250]

No. Aftermarket adapter is $13 and you can go from there. I bought mine new for $150

[@camsimkins4765]

Just picked up a cobra F9 for $450 au which i think is a bargain after using it for a few rounds. Finally updated from the R11 and this thing is a monster.

[@ivoroneill556]

Just checked eBay in the USA. Bids are at $50 ish

[@jerrythai8680]

Just bought the honma tw747p irons brand new reduced from £1k to 499...

[@tonylewis8370]

Shows your reach Simon. Prices already up!

[@michaelpenn6694]

I bought one off Ebay for $235 brand new, one of the best drivers I've owned

[@jeffreysmith5175]

I love the driver. It's solid and the ball just comes off the face quicker than some of the other drivers I've hit.

[@briangawronski2634]

HOT DEAL! - I bought the 2019 Mizuno ST190 new for $190 dollars back in June. Stiff - 9 1/2 degree. I got it fromRock Bottom Golf.

[@mjsgolf7004]

Great vid Simon and nice of that guy to point it out. I bet Mizuno ST180s & ST190s are going cheap too.

[@SASGolf]

Yeah they go super cheap for the same reasons to be honest. Good drivers as well.

[@mikeprobert3348]

Older products such as 737 with more premium shafts as standard shafts sell for more than the later products , that’s because the older Honma products are far better than anything they produce now

[@CHuzz7777]

Saw these discounted in AG on the weekend. I assumed they had been a flop and didn’t give them another thought until now.

[@adamwittman982]

The real issue with honma on eBay is 90 percent of them are fakes. That’s why they are cheap

[@willl5250]

Not mine, called Honma and they verified it. It works great. It hits like a champ. $150, new, headcover, wrench included.

[@shaunwalpole4968]

Where are you finding them? All over £300 when I look 😂

[@vvelius]

Thanks for the tip!

[@kevinmcarthur2389]

American golf selling the 747 TW P irons 2nd hand for £595

[@josephinecampbell3196]

I live in the US, I see alot starting at 9.99 but how do you know they aren't fakes?

[@puttputt524]

They aren’t. There is a huge seller on eBay that everyone follows, and every day when an auction goes by, everybody bids up the next auction to end. If you buy brand new, they are honestly harder to fake. It should come with Honma branded headcover, plastic wrap, wrench tool. Hard to fake all that stuff. If you really want to go nuts, confirm the serial number with Honma.

[@jimmydelrio8662]

Simón, I need to pay for your content before it comes out to the general public so I can get these deals! Hahaha. I'm kidding. I have my eyes on a few even though I already have the drivers I want. Having different equipment is great because it makes me appreciate my gamers. I practice with blades, hard to hit drivers, and so when I play with my forgiving stuff I'm on point. That is all because of your advice. By the way I was ahead on those vokey wedges! I think "Arron Badadly" (I think I misspelled his name) uses a 60 degree 200 series wedge. So I don't think it is not illegal yet for pros.

[@stirkz]

Theres not one on ebay UK at this moment under £200

[@MrChrissWilliams]

And the TW747 drivers have just shot back up in price following this video!

[@michaelbailey528]

I personally think Justin and the Honma exec had a culture clash.

[@ImanoffGolf]

I couldn't understand Honma's product/marketing strategy at all. They are quite famous in Asia, especially on LPGA and Asian Tours. Very easy to find Honma's clubs in LPGA/Asian tour players bag. In retail market, however, things are quite confusing. Take an example of Honma Beres line. It's so expensive and commonly used by high profile people to show their status in the society. It's not merely about technology, instead, the clubs were gold plated and equipped with other frivolous things not related to performance. Then they brought up new management and hired Justin Rose. They attempted to enter the mass market, particularly in the Europe and US. But all of sudden, the director left and Justin Rose went back to Taylormade. Overpriced? Maybe. Undervalued? Quite possibly. Nevertheless, I quite enjoyed hitting 747v and Rose Proto iron sets though.

[@mattevans7150]

Just a thought on these Simon, regarding the drivers with no key or head cover, why would you spend over 500 quid on a driver and not look after the head cover and tool? Are these perhaps fakes from Wish.com and the likes? Would these be shipped without a tool and head cover?

[@SASGolf]

Potentially mate, but majority of companies that produce fakes go for the more well known brands, there more likely to be nicked and didn’t have time to grab the Headcover and tool. 😂

[@ffsmynameistaken]

@@SASGolf hey mate, honma fakes used to be one of the big boys that was all over wish/Ali Express, catering to that Asian market that they prefer to operate in :)

[@roejye06]

Wish fakes was the thing I immediately thought of, I used to see a lot of those when I used wish. They were usually knock offs of the 4 star though.

[@ffsmynameistaken]

@@roejye06 agreed! These could all be legit.. but its definitely something I'd keep in the back or my mind if I was buying honma (or to a lesser extent xxio)

[@MarkB-te3sj]

And I just wanted to see you smoke that Honma Driver :) But thank you its on my watchlist now :P

[@chevy4x466]

Honestly never heard of honma

[@charlesjones5586]

I’m sure it had something to do with Justin Rose leaving

[@cgasucks]

Yeah. It shows how a pro doesn't have a lot of confidence in that brand.

[@keithfinley2939]

Yah... the sense is that they must be substandard or Rose wouldn't have bailed midseason...

[@garydavis8213]

Beautiful driver with a complicated adjustment system.

[@willl5250]

It's not that complicated. Bought mine for $150 new w/HC and wrench. Loosen the screw, move the dial to desired setting. Tighten screw. It's actually easier than regular systems because you don't have to pull the head off and realign the screw. Honma, It's literally loosen, turn dial, tighten.

[@stevelegge3307]

Ooh I'm the first one here 👋

[@SASGolf]

Hi Steve, hopefully everyone else turns up 😬 Haha thanks for watching pal. 👌

[@stevelegge3307]

@@SASGolf Because of you I got an amazing deal on my first set of clubs last week. Subscriber for life now 👍

[@DunnGolfing]

Justin Rose ain’t looking for one 😂

[@buddywheels]

Sooo, this won’t push the price up then!

[@Worlieee]

Thanks for ruining it :-( I was literally just eying up a couple that had zero bids now all are 160+ with multiple bids...

[@SASGolf]

Sorry pal, on the bright side, I’m helping a poor old geezer that paid £500+ for a driver last year and now will at least get £180 back for it.

[@Worlieee]

Making me feel bad for wanting a bargain now 😂. Keep up the good work

[@stephengrantham8716]

Yep the price of those went up. Just means in a few weeks there will be the same drivers back on ebay being sold by the folks that buy them today etc. Unless you get fitted you will never achieve your potential.

[@mikebarnard2689]

This is a bit like buying a top spec Japanese or French car.... massive depreciation. Bargains to be had. Srixon have been making truly great drivers with top quality components ( Miyazaki shafts etc) since 2017 and their resale value... poor... snap them up guys.

[@darrenpayce6121]

There’s not much on ebay as an auction lots of buy it nows though but £225 and up. You must of scared the sellers off😂

[@golfrich]

Loving the video Simon I sent you a message on Instagram not heard back from you

[@orvil88]

Nothing under £200. I wonder what random clubs we can get you to review and cause a price surge.

[@5ebra1]

I watched a review of this club and it was a fake copy. Do you ever come across fake clubs when you buy so many?

[@clivebrooker1]

Hmm, Will I hit this driver better than my current (insert make and age here) driver - errrr, no. Would I be far better off spending £150 on lessons - Yes defo. Oooo! But it’s a bargain! ( That sound is logic going out the window).

[@TenPester]

And now watch the price go up, like every product you mention on here. "Get these excellent irons for £100!!" - float over to evilBay, and they are twice the price.

[@Jayhawk3776]

I bought a TW 747 7 wood on eBay “new” and it was completely fake. I was able to return it and filed a complaint with eBay.

[@willl5250]

How did you know it was fake? Did you verify with honma?

[@Jayhawk3776]

Will L the swing weight as labeled on the club didn’t match the manufacturer specs, the grip smelled awful like cheap new rubber, and the honma hologram on the shaft was face up so it would reflect in your eyes which is never where a manufacturer would put it. But the biggest telltale signs were the swing weight discrepancy and the smell of the grip

[@rrafaelmuniz7511]

Didn’t even hit the damn club

[@SuperCh1L]

This video has ruined everything

[@Mihigo26]

And already up to £200. Good job upping the price ffs

[@SASGolf]

Haha first of all there all sitting at £160, second of all sorry for trying to provide value to people that support my channel. Sorry I cost you £40. 😬

[@bustmup01]

I gonna say his got a couple on there now... Hence the whole save them so u get notifications on it lol

[@ItaliaJP400]

I had it and sold it after 1 round it's TERRIBLE!!!!

[@pcxcado]

Well that’s a cheap driver out the window!

[@richardargent2304]

Watching these is like insider trading watch video hit ebay asap 😁👍🏌️‍♂️👍

[@puttputt524]

I got my honmas in June. I got the hybrid and 5 wood for 75 each brand new.

[@MrPhilbautista]

One word - FAKE. People selling fake clubs have driven the market for real clubs down.

[@HydroStan]

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[@johnpaul9606]

Just goes to show you how over priced golf equipment really is !

[@CKW10001]

I don't think they were ever worth 599 then. Even now they look like a Slazenger (too me) with that straight metallic face, where all brand new drivers have a darker face, which look way better. I still wouldn't play with it even if it was 40 euros.

[@milanboskovic9618]

Second...

[@BruceBusby]

They probably aren't selling because they're garbage. Made for the JDM where it needs to be expensive to sell. Complete junk, not made for full sized men.

[@ewheel1629]

Its horrible ....justin rose couldn't hit it..dont use the platform to steer us in the wrong direction....

[@SASGolf]

It was a £140 for a 2019 driver and I have nothing to gain from you guys buying it. 🙈

[@angelosantabarbara517]

Justin Rose hit it very well. Don't blame the clubs for his decline. In just his second start since switching to Honma equipment in 2019, Justin Rose recorded a victory at the 2019 Farmers Insurance Open at Torrey Pines Golf Course in San Diego, California. The Englishman posted a final score of -21 to win by two strokes over Australian Adam Scott.

[@williamdavidbell8893]

Honma doesn’t have the marketing dollars like Callaway and TaylorMade.

[@markclements7055]

Played the 737 455 for a year and loved it. Would love to hear what you think of the Radius putter. I have one in my bag and it's as good as anything I've tried.