THE MOST OP TANK OF THE PATCH - Leopard 40/70 in War Thunder

[@OddBawZ]

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P O T A T O

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

Have you ever done a video on the M47 105/55? If not, It's really good.

[@MIG31foxhound74]

Day six of asking for b24 cas

[@DeltaS64Lima]

Hi OddBawZ I know it been well over 3 years of asking for one video on the South African TTD centurion MBT video but I've wasted 3 years of my life wasted on asking for a video that you most likely will never make Thanks mate you've finally crushed my hope for just 1 video.

[@DeltaS64Lima]

Hi OddBawZ I know it been well over 3 years of asking for one video on the South African TTD centurion MBT video but I've wasted 3 years of my life wasted on asking for a video that you most likely will never make Thanks mate you've finally crushed my hope for just 1 video.

[@gunsblazing4509]

If an SPAA can go directly through the front plate of one of the heaviest tanks at its BR, I suspect it might be a tad bit unbalanced

[@whatdothlife4660]

Eh, there are Tier 1 SPG's and stuff that can kill anything at any BR. You can destroy this Leopard with a 7.62 MG.

[@gianador2556]

@@whatdothlife4660 Leopard is a sh*t tank either way.

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@gianador2556 no it isn’t dumbass lmao

[@astonbenger67]

People when italy have a op tank🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡😡

[@DeathScrew]

I feel like it will deffinitely get put up in BR

[@miniraptor3211]

17:57 idk how much this part gets talked about but it really can't be understated how useful this is. Just getting into a trend of thinking about why you're doing something or going somewhere rather than the alternative could see someone get way more confident at the game because they'll just know off the top of their head the reason why some tactics work when you dont feel like they do for you.

[@terribleplayerWT]

this is what makes good players, learning from mistakes

[@acolbymyers]

that is critical calculated thinking and its how you can get into the heads of the enemy and exploit the common tactics that they will use depending on each map variant.

[@This_is_a_burner]

I whole heartedly agree. Honestly when it comes to what are called 'OP' vehicles, it really comes down to countering it by focusing fire. People complain about some SPG with an autoloader at 3.7, being the SAV, and then also don't focus fire on it when they spot it. Considering that shit is paper thin and you can even hit crew with smaller calibers. It's still a strong vehicle but if you shoot it once with anything it's basically fucked, same with this thing.

[@OmikronTitan]

​@@terribleplayerWT Yeah. He's good because he has the experience and uses it. If you're not going to reflect and learn, you're probably not going to improve.

[@nathanamanono2937]

The skink is a higher br than this 💀

[@wagonfixin]

Thing has more pen than some tech tree US tanks in that BR

[@ODST_Parker]

The Skink doesn't have 4/5 crew members exposed for MGs to spray down.

[@whilliamblamet187]

The snail hates Britain

[@Ben-mw9vz]

@@wagonfixinno way you said this😂 even the standard 75mm has 104mm pen with its APHE

[@lewismacleod8735]

@@ODST_Parkerskink has half the pen, has a fairly long reload, very poor damage on planes, slower and it’s guns can overheat

[@danielross7983]

I've fired one of those (the gun) at HMS Cambridge. The 40/70 is sooooo much fun. ... Prep is interesting. You have to grease the rounds so they don't jam... which is basically sticking your hands in vaseline and pretending it's a lonely Saturday night and you're well endowed. ;)

[@bahamut256]

As a guy who plays the m6a1 a lot, this thing really isn’t a threat to the m6a1 unless it catches you from the side. Which can be said about almost any tank in game. Plus you can easily just blap it with a 30mm HE round.

[@bradenhagen7977]

Pretty sure it can the hull corners.

[@lomberd57]

as someone who checked the protection analysis, I can tell you that there are several weakspots that even if small, can cause a lot of damage and are usually easy to hit like the gun pod of the Jumbo sherman. My favorite is the one on the left side of the turret when facing the tank, if you have the AP ammo fot the leopard 40/70 you can pen through the machine gun pod and instantly take down loader and gunner at the same time, without considering the chance of getting a good angle and going directly to the ammo storage. Considering how fast the Leopard is at shooting, it just becomes easier to pen. I also love the one on the right side of the tank when facing it, the little line on the low part of the front plate. it instantly takes out the pilot and can take out a loader as well.

[@alexvolute7454]

ah yes the m6a1 and its 30mm HE rounds lmao

[@lomberd57]

@@alexvolute7454it has a 2nd cannon. Idk what caliber it is but I know it’s there.

[@Drummercommander]

Are you crazy? The M6 has less armour than the Churchill 1 at 3.3

[@jgdowell]

It's like an upgraded L-62. I will be using this obnoxiously.

[@asherwoodrow7471]

you use L-62?? if i liked wt at all after the recent BR change i would be angry rn

[@GewelReal]

upgraded AMX 13 DCA 40

[@vonknorring09]

​@@asherwoodrow7471 L-62 is very good

[@asherwoodrow7471]

@@vonknorring09 i would know, i was the poor bastard in a btr at 5.0 because i ran out of tanks

[@vonknorring09]

@@asherwoodrow7471 what?

[@THF117]

Cant wait to see this thing go up 2 whole BRs like the R3

[@truvelo1]

@MJ0383 dude, tiger 3 panther 2 7.0 this veichles shouldnt be less than that

[@THF117]

@MJ0383 I think they'll just jump it to 6.0 at minimum where it's playing with the Czech AA but it following the R3's foot steps would just be hilarious

[@airsoftpopcorn]

@@truvelo1tiger 3?

[@ronaldmcreagann6343]

If this thing gets the rods it was able to fire, as well as VT, it could be put higher up and I don’t think many would complain.

[@Jpz-4-5]

@@truvelo1tiger 3? Have you been watching the history channel?

[@san0mad]

I love that the dudes in the turret look like theyre doin a podcast or something and the rear turret armor kinda looks like a desk.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

I'm surprised you've not done a video on either the German or Italian M109G. Everyone new favorite HE slinging derp gun.

[@RYNOCIRATOR_V5]

It's kind of boring, similar things are already in the game - better to do the more unusual fun stuff first as more people will click *[edit: typo]*

[@crazyadam9281]

The M109G are the inferior version of the M109A1.

[@Kwisss]

2S1 at 6.0 for Italian is better though M109G can still do great.

[@wolfgangkolber381]

@@crazyadam9281 I haven't checked, what's the difference?

[@crazyadam9281]

@@wolfgangkolber381 the A1 has better muzzle velocity, even if it's only a small increase.

[@exactinmidget92]

i would say," what would you expect from a 4.3 begleitpanzer" but i see that it already got nerfed.

[@Guy_GuyGuy]

One of these days Gaijin is going to add a Humvee with a .50 cal at 1.0. Have they really learned nothing from the BTR-80 backlash?

[@frostedbutts4340]

What's the backlash? The Btr 80 seems fine.

[@Guy_GuyGuy]

@@frostedbutts4340 The BTR-80A was originally released at 5.7 with no APDS. A post-Cold War APC rolling around fighting mid-late WWII vehicles. Some chronological inaccuracy is expected in the game, but it's getting way too fucking much at this point.

[@Siplin]

Yeah, the BTR-80 had backlash?

[@airsoftpopcorn]

@@Guy_GuyGuythe btr-80 situation is very different from this, the btr-80 had to go up in br in order to be able to pen anything. At 5.7 all it faced were tanks that it barely could do anything against. Plus, it has a slow rate of fire which means it isn’t even good against light tanks. It didn’t get moved up because it was a cold war vehicle.

[@Guy_GuyGuy]

​@@airsoftpopcorn I was about to say the BTR-80A was 5.7 for like a week before Gaijin changed it, but I was wrong, the BTR-80A literally wasn't released at 5.7. It didn't even make it past the dev server at 5.7 before the WT community threw a fit about it. Not only did Gaijin not move it up because it underperformed at that BR without APDS, Gaijin *could not* have because they had no time to collect data. It was because of community backlash.

[@SkyBlue_32]

people: "wow this thing si broken, why its so low in the BR??!?" AMX 13 DCA: 👀

[@The_Enforcer14]

OP

[@Rupertthefallen6598]

i just love when you dismantle an enemy one module at a time its just so satisfying, great vid keep em comming !

[@thisguyyyyyyy2723]

Find it hard to believe that this thing never used HE-VT, would be a great reason to move it up in BR other than its AP performance

[@chlepek6944]

But the thing is, they DON'T WANT to move it up, since it performs very usefull role of filling a huge gap in italian SPAA tree.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Guys, can you stop pretending that this is some sort of OP vehicle? Its like you never played pre-nerf wirbelwind, duster or swedish borfos carriers (they are much better as flanker btw, cause they have SAP).

[@thisguyyyyyyy2723]

@@chlepek6944 There’s not really a gap to fill where it’s at, the M42 Contraereo is perfectly comfortable up to 5.0, and the R3 still works great at and slightly above its current BR. If anything, the 40/70 would be better off filling the gap between the ZSU-57-2 and the Shilka later in the line, if it had HE-VT. Personally I can think of a lot of times I’d rather have something like this over the Shilka, even if it doesn’t have radar…

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@chlepek6944 Hungarian Nimrods would be better for gap filler. They should give this things it's historical HE-VT and apfsds rounds (looked it up and yes it lay had both of these rounds for the 40/70 inservice at the time this was tested) and then uptiered to 7.0+

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 it's not really just about it being OP or not, it's also the fact its an 80s aa vehicle that had 80s ammo, being denied it's 80s ammo to justify a lower BR which it doesn't need to be at.

[@Kminek246]

I would say keep it as it is. Only big problem is jist the mobility. Penetration isnt problem as AMX-13 DCA 40 has same penetration at 4.3. Another problem on that vehicle is the skill of other players that for some reason keep shooting it into hull

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Yeah. The only reason it does so well is skill issue of enemy players.

[@nicholasholloway8743]

Yea no, tried shooting the turret more than once. It has Gaijin Armor, or no armor best armor because even the nasty rounds on the KV1 Zis does fuck all to its turret. Need to be up tiered to 5.7 at the very least.

[@Kminek246]

@@nicholasholloway8743 have you tried to not only use maybe HE, but also a MG? And also aiming better could help unless you are on consol

[@iMoD190]

@@nicholasholloway8743 yeah, it's a single flat plate of 8mm. use HE or a MG.

[@mr_p_191]

You have improved me so much in warthunder. i used to die every time and not get kills but now i can drop nukes left and right. Today i got 3 nukes 2 i was able to drop and 1 was lost to a team killer. Thank you oddbawz

[@villie86]

R3 T20 came back with a vengence. I had the misfortune of meeting one of these in my churchill 3 at the beginning of the match, I couldn't even leave spawn, it just blapped me in the side.

[@nicholasholloway8743]

Same, for idk how many maps, one of these just zoomed to our spawn and began to wreck everyone. It needs to be seeing tigers and shit. Not KV1s and Churchill 3s

[@iMoD190]

@@nicholasholloway8743 it's 5.0, it does see tigers and panthers when it's not downtiered.

[@ODST_Parker]

This probably deserves to go to 5.7 for the 95mm max penetration, but let me just remind everyone that Sweden has 40mm SAPHE at 2.7, and not a single person is complaining about that like they are about this thing. This is ridiculous, and it's more than a little hilarious that people are legitimately acting like this is a Leopard 1 at 5.0. I'll tell you why everyone is complaining about this thing, and it's my entire experiencing spading the thing in seven battles. No one watched their flanks, barely anyone used their MG, and everyone shot the hull first. That's it. Every single time someone actually watched their flanks, and sprayed me down with their MGs, I died instantly. Because they didn't the majority of the time, I had more fun in this tank than I have any other in many months. Now, Gaijin, please add the damn Leopard 1A2 and stop fucking around. Two offshoots of it we've got, one modeled incorrectly as a copy/paste 1A5, but not the 1A2 itself.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

So like i suspected, just a massive skill issue on players part.

[@ODST_Parker]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Pretty much. You can see it in Odd's video here, when he's behind their spawn on Volo. They know where he is, and they can see him, but he takes multiple useless shots to the hull before the Sherman finally remembers he has MGs.

[@altenbergusaltenberg]

This thing is soo loud... If it is on my team and is withing 400 meters of me, I literally can't hear any enemy that might be in the proximity.

[@Soviet20]

At 5.7/6.0 Italians had other options for AA's I'd see this as an Event/BP vehicle, *FIAT version of the Sd.Kfz.251 (‘Hanomag’) with Bofors or 20mm Gun that could be used at 5.0* or the *Breda M42 Upgrade Otomatic for 6.7.*

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Breda m42 upgrade was a paper project. Hungarian aaa tanks like the nimrod would work better. This vehicle should be given its historical 40mm apfsds rounds and moved to 7.0 atleast.

[@duncanmcgee13]

Friendly reminder that the French AMX-13 DCA 40 (4.3) has the same gun

[@joy_gantic]

Anyone who thinks this thing is OP either A. Hates fun or B. Doesn't know what High Explosive is or C. Doesn't understand the power of a top mounted HMG

[@daskollektiv4593]

and all of the players at its br are that, like what german players have you seen with HE? (thats over level 70)

[@nicholasholloway8743]

Shouldn't be able to pick this as first tank, drive to enemy spawn and own the whole enemy team. It's far to low in BR and yes, no armor is best armor so there goes the mg the turret crew nonsense that everyone seems to think works (ran Into this thing like ten matches yesterday) and even 50s on the Sherman did fuck all to it in enough time to save my ass from it. Face it, it's too low in BR. The angle on turret armor negates alot of rounds, including some of the most hated rounds in that br. Bounces right off or does negligible damage. Needs to be 6.0 cause even 5.7 seems too low considering it's speed, mobility and that gun (which performance wise, is better than other bofors at that br despite what stats say, we can see this with our own eyes) 6.0 or better yet, add the HVAP,Sabot and magnetic rounds this thing had and make it 7.7-8.0

[@daskollektiv4593]

@@nicholasholloway8743 did you know that you can use HE rounds? They're usually stock and they instantly kill "op" Italian spaa!

[@joy_gantic]

​@@nicholasholloway8743 then what fills the 2.3 to 5.7 gap in the Italian tree (don't say 40M Nimród; it's worse than CM53)?

[@ZealothPL]

By the time you reload to HE your tank will look like swiss cheese

[@MyWaifuNow]

The fact that this was going to be 4.3 originally is absurd

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

It is not. There are number of same things at 4.3 (duster, m19a1, french/swedish thing). It is baically same deal, if you replace leopard with them, they will do about same/better due to having 2 barrels.

[@iMoD190]

that's around where the other Bofors carriers sit comfortably. the difference being this is much faster in exchange for having a much larger profile and exposed crew.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 you are right, except for the fact they denied this 80s vehicle it's 80s ammo (HE-VT and apfsds) inorder to make it comparable to the vehicles you mentioned. It should get it's historical rounds and uptiered to 7.0. As any gap it may or may not fill would be better filled by Hungarian Nimrods.

[@declan2751]

No one seems to know about the am13 dca and that makes me happy. Hopefully gaijin doesn't move it

[@SikPuppy]

same here, I love that thing so much

[@nicholasholloway8743]

I used it, it won't move because you can actually kill its crew with one or two rounds, this fucking be eating the best rounds from KV1 Zis. With it's speed, mobility and yes the weapon, which performance wise, is better than AMX 13 DCA 40 (despite what the stats say). This needs to either be 5.7 or add the HVAP rounds this thing has and move it up to 7-8 br.

[@koki956]

@@nicholasholloway8743mg, you have a bloody mg just use it

[@k-classsub9820]

One tip for any spaa is if you find it tough to kill an open top with your ap switch to he and it will kill it quickly.

[@crazyadam9281]

Italy has been a lackluster tech tree for a while now so it's nice to see a fun but OP vehicle.

[@splatterdaysaint9024]

Thanks Odd for all the laughs man. really makes my day

[@ozrenradovanlija5600]

I play war thunder i don t know from when and still play it(I am 42 years old) what bothers me and why I have stopped playing basicly all tier 4 (read all WW2 tanks) that are facing some kind of modern tanks with modern shells is there is no enyoment anymore when guy hits my panther or tiger and kills me instantly or disables 80% of thank with first shot. So because of that I stick to tier 3 where I can find some fun playing alone or with my best buddy. Either way OddBawZ I am really happy with kind of videos that you do on both of your channels and will continue following you. Keep up with good work dude

[@Idkwhattoputhereandbeoriginal]

i like the fact that, as the ammo count gets lower, the ammos storage in the turret empties

[@Thebaconmurderer]

I think people forget that overpressure exists. Any for of he that sneezes near this thing practically evaporates the entire crew. Everyone tends to just run some form of AP though with adding 1 or 2 rounds of HE. I overpressured one yesterday in my StuG III G simple as a full uptier to smack one.

[@jirkazalabak1514]

The problem is that before you can reload to your HE rounds, you will likely be dead. It´s already busted enough when SPAAs can disable your gun with their autocannons. Being able to pen tanks from the front is just absurd with that rate of fire.

[@keithrogers6876]

Personally I keep coming back because your videos are entertaining, and I like the vibes you put out just by being yourself. I can't speak for others, but results speak for themselves so I am sure I am not alone in this opinion ^^

[@DeltaS64Lima]

Hi OddBawZ I know it been well over 3 years of asking for one video on the South African TTD centurion MBT video but I've wasted 3 years of my life wasted on asking for a video that you most likely will never make Thanks mate you've finally crushed my hope for just 1 video.

[@404_No_Name]

Yo Oddbawz great video as always I've got a challenge for you, pick a premium tank (of your choice) and play it stock then based off how much rp you make for each game you add however modifications you can afford and continue to play the vehicle until you have fully 'spaded' the tank

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

It will be like one or two games. Premiums grind like crazy.

[@kakapokid1796]

I was really surprised to have not seen any out in the wild. Was the first of the latest vehicles I went for, but that's cos I'm a Italy fan for doing goblin things.

[@samadams2203]

It should stay at 5.0. Why? Because it's just a LVKV 42 or AMX-13 DCA 40 with better mobility and it's already .7 above them. If it moves up to 5.3, there is no lineup for it, and if I'm choosing between the Leopard 40/70 or the R3T20, I'm taking the R3, so it will be another dead vehicle.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

They should give it it's historical HE-VT and apfsds and move it to 7.0+ It'll be a discount Strf 9040C

[@CarmineKar98K]

"You gotta let your brain do the damage" Sir My brain does indeed damage itself on a daily basis.🥴

[@kirishima638]

They REALLY need to update the crew models so that they're not riding cold war vehicles while wearing uniforms from 1940.

[@mariobosnjak99]

"This think doesnt have a lot of pen for a Leo" 93 mm of pen for a 40 mm, even a Bofors, especially with regular shells and not apds or apfsds is insanely good wdym. I thought the pen would be around 80 mm max with AP and 63 mm with APHE like on the swedish Bofors

[@loli141]

When you should go to bed but oddbawz just uploaded a new video, sleep schelude can wait

[@noarmorbestarmor]

19:15 The poor Chafee looking terrified

[@GewelReal]

This is the most fun I've had in WT since forever playing this vehicle. It's so brutally OP

[@Noval446]

They changed the power of the engine to 1179hp thats crazy mobility there.

[@QuantumShenna]

as a Lvkv 42 enjoyer, this thing looks incredible. No SAP is a little sad but having a full APBC belt seems like a decent trade, and it's a good bit faster.

[@ThunderGod9182]

After watching OddBawZ play for years, I'm convince he is the Norse god of war Tyr disguised as a Scotsman, lol.

[@chaoslink1158]

The trick to being good at War Thunder is to outsmart your opponent by having a plan like Odd said. Its not about reaction time (unless in arcade), its about superior positioning and outplaying your opponent, as well as familiarity with the vehicles.

[@ORYG1N]

I swear this is how fast the Leopard I was when it was very first added to the game. Am I wrong?

[@m4squid722]

They put this at 5.0 but the flakpanzer IV is 7.0. Warthunder devs proving once again that they don't know what they're doing.

[@NicolasBloomDrums]

I think you german mains can manage

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Yeah, kugel is dog water. What is the point of using german ww2 spaa in cold war, when you can get wizel or gepard.

[@iMoD190]

they place a lot of value on crew protection. see how the Skink has a high BR than it probably should.

[@derkohlgruber5083]

hey bawz not sure if u did before but have a look or a revisit of the jagtpanzer 4 i consistently got 8 kils or more each match so give it a go please would be nice to see

[@BRONCOS997]

I want my Leo at br 5.0. Only makes sense if this thing is using it’s hull at that low br

[@canned__meat]

I think they really reduced the amount of rewards you get from shooting down aircraft now... Considering the impact that often has on the enemy team's points and often removes a player from battle, I would have thought it might be quite a bit better 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@iMoD190]

you should see how bad it is in naval. I once shot down 7 aircraft in one game in a Saetta. it won us the game, but it was barely worth anything in points or rewards. it was worth so few points that the game actually considered me inactive, and I ended with only around 60% activity. I thought it was a bug and made the same arguments to Gaijin, that aircraft can be highly impactful and should be more highly valued, but they insist that it's intended design.

[@canned__meat]

@@iMoD190 - certainly seems like an odd choice 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Blue-wc8yi]

Yo bawz! Did you see! The TOG 2 is here! Please make a video on it!

[@skywalkerog9576]

Love your videos I’ve been watching so many of them the past like week or 2 I appreciate you

[@bobisbell1837]

It will do well in down tiers and bringing in higher brs

[@Styrofoam-ee]

Probably should be put at 5.7-6.7. It'd probably be more balanced at that br so it would face some more tigers, and heavy tanks but still be able to pen from the side.

[@SikPuppy]

its fine where it is, its just a side grade or slight upgrade to the amx-13 dca 40, it has less turret armour, is less survivable (can be easily killed by any co-ax rifle caliber mg, when the 13 dca cant), worse gun handling, but has a better chassis, with neutral steer and better accelerate and top speed but its 0.7 higher. The amx-13 dca 40 is very good in a competent players hands but that goes for every vehicle, 5.0 is honestly the perfect br for this thing, maybe 5.3 at the most

[@SikPuppy]

@@foxy-48514 The type 87 RCV does very well at 12.0, the 2s3m does very well at 8.0, the ikv 103 does very well at 6.7, etc etc etc, you can do well with any vehicle when artificially uptiering it if you play properly, but that doesnt mean they should all increase in br

[@toxicmuggle5788]

​@@foxy-48514The panzer 4s can do well at 5.0 but nobody is using that as an argument to move them up despite other Nations having similar vehicles at the BR

[@GewelReal]

​@@SikPuppybut this thing is way too OP at 5.0 It can facefuck pretty much everything

[@samadams2203]

There is zero reason to use this over the R3, so no.

[@lordhickory3322]

Day 6 of asking Odd to play the wonderful, underrated Strv m/42 EH. It‘s 75 mil packs a serious punch with the APHE shell, and that paired with the good mobility and decent armour for the br make it quite enjoyable imo. I would really love to see a video on that one!

[@sorrythishandleisunavaliable]

Gaijin is actually fuckin crazy for thinking this is fair

[@CR055H41RZ]

bawz you're always the best keep doing your healing magic with your videos!!

[@ThunderBoltBoi]

Why do literally all popular war thunder content creators like oddbawz always have uncompleted tutorial?or unclaimed awards?

[@terroah4832]

Loved this video, keep the good work bro

[@BarrowsBOY]

OddBawz every video: We're up against some strong countries, should be tough. Proceeds to destroy everyone with little to no effort.

[@JazzBoat_]

i like how wart chunder and WoT, both previously games that marketed themselves off realism, now don't give two shits about it; it's either playing against zombie tanks, paper tanks and superhero tanks or playing Tiger 1s vs this thing

[@viperSkellgrig]

wot has never positioned itself as a realistic combat simulator

[@nukesomething5518]

the l70 bofors has been sub 5.0 since sweden got added lol same pen same rof just a differnt chassi

[@cheetahda1o763]

I’ve been having a blast playing this tank, it’s ridiculous it’s at a lower BR than the R3

[@jonhg92]

I wouldnt go that far tho. They just need to nerf this things pen and it will be fine

[@princessapplestrach6327]

​@@jonhg92but they won't since it's a L70 Bofors not an L60 like the M19/M42 has not my best bet is it's cgoing to go up to 6.7/7.0

[@daskollektiv4593]

R3 shouldnt be so high

[@Rosaslav]

the fact it has -5° gun depression is huge. In comparison, M42 Duster has only -3 and it severely limits its ability to aim at lower parts of vehicles or aim at them at all when driving circles around them on uneven terrain.

[@deeptroit_5692]

This tank bullied my whole lobby yesterday. What a beast

[@nicholasholloway8743]

Hence, it needs to be 5.7 very least.

[@T0tenkampf]

Soilent Green...its made of People as Armor

[@maineiacman]

Try out Enlisted. I want to see what you think of War thunder planes and vehicles with infantry.

[@maxxz365]

If this doesnt stay at 5.0 the btrzd should be raised in br substantially

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

True. If this is "too OP", then half of ALL spaa`s should go up in BR.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

What if its increased in BR because they give it it's historical apfsds and he-vt rounds?

[@maxxz365]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 its gaijin. they arent going to make something from a country that isnt russia or bugland better when they uptier it

[@GhostWolf743]

Having played both I can say this thing puts the BTR 80 to shame. They'll definitely throw this thing up in BR.

[@spazz954]

How do you get these enemy teams??? I play this tank and every 50cal and 20mm on the map finds me before I can even leave spawn....

[@SikPuppy]

youre not playing it right then, or youre trying to play it how you would if it was the first vehicle you spawned that match but when the match is already over and enemies can already see your spawn like youre implying

[@randomv3iwer]

Hello Odd. If you got time, send a shout out to Hunter as he starting his battle with Cancer and chemotherapy. A kind gesture like this can lift his spirits higher.

[@hamiltonrankin8462]

Ran into like 5 of these in one game… never wished I brought more HE that much before.

[@simplode7752]

Señor bawz, could we please get a vid on the Char 25t, it’s got a 4 second reload now and it’s a higher br.

[@bpmgaming3351]

At 18:03 you said you're not good at War Thunder, but then proceed to tell us why it is you're good at War Thunder immediately after 😂

[@dakotahondalock5621]

17:58 Odd... that's called being good at war thunder

[@americanrice8600]

Play kv 1C German's only 5.0 heavy tank

[@shonefob]

I mean this thing practically has the same stats as the AMX-13 DCA 40 and its at 4.3. Maybe its hull is a little worse.

[@SikPuppy]

exactly, people just see this thing in a good players hand and think its op without testing it for themselves

[@zarrten]

@@SikPuppy I’ve had quite a few rats hiding in corners just pen me from the front, or even just creating a hill and killing me in a few shots. The BTR 152 is higher than this, it’s got more mobility than it and less pen. This thing is absurd for the rank it is. SPAA shouldn’t be able to directly pen the front of most things it faces with an autocannon…

[@SikPuppy]

@@zarrten like a lot of other people, youre forgetting that a majority of SPAA are balanced around their ability to kill aircraft, the btr (i assume youre talking about the ZD) is significantly better at killing aircraft, same goes for something like the oswind 2, its 0.3 higher, but has less mobility and cant kill tanks anywhere near as well, BUT it does have double the fire rate with basically the same rounds, while i think the oswind 2 should be at least 5.0, its still close to fair because a SPAAs job isnt to kill tanks. And the leo 40/70 is one 7.62mm to the gunners head from being disabled or a >30mm HE rounds hitting the track from being instantly killed, while the 40mm ap does quite little damage and needs way more time on target to disable a proper tank from fighting back, thats just how these AAs go

[@zarrten]

@@SikPuppy Ive fought against these leos with a 4.3 german lineup and the stug has no mgs and it can pen my transmission to disable me in one shot, it can do the same to any tank I can run. The Jagdpanzer 4 has a bad MG traverse and the Hetzer is fragile as an egg. Even panthers arent safe from this thing. The Skink is also a whole BR above it and can only shoot planes that are relatively close. The fact is that it is better than most TDs or even lights at flanking and killing tanks, you have to take that into account. Sure it is not meant to do that, but when it is used in a certain way, you have to adapt. It could just as easily be classed as a light tank and brought to 6.0 or 7.0 and be fine as a flanker, like so many autocannon IFV vehicles that can be killed in the exact same ways as this thing. The BTR 80A is in the same boat. If this vehicle were German then it would be multiple BR above where it is now, I can guarantee you. It cannot be balanced as an SPAA when nobody uses it as an SPAA, and in my opinion, it is an awful addition to the game in terms of balancing, SPAA or not.

[@nicholasholloway8743]

Everyone here reread their comments. You're saying this is just as good as the French AMX DCA 40, tell me why this outperforms said Spaa at every turn? Because despite what "stats" say, it's outperforming any other Spaa at that BR, when you can spawn this as your first tank, drive to enemy spawn (considering it's speed takes little to no time) and begin to own an entire enemy team? It needs to be up tiered. It's little to no armor eats alot of shells or they do little or negligible damage. We're talking some of the most hated rounds of that BR, bouncing off this thing because yes, angled armor has a better rating. 6.0 at the very least or add the Magnetic,HVAP Sabot rounds this thing used and make it 8.0

[@wackysparrow1768]

Can you play the T54E2?

[@maxhayden8634]

Played this together with the two 6.0 arty tanks turns out it is pretty good at murdering tigers aswell

[@ethandunlap6755]

he said we are leaving and my first thought, Capt Price"WE ARE LEAVING"

[@Relatable_444]

Please play the us bulldog it got moved up in be day 35

[@Talendale]

Nothing like seeing an R3 and just plain outrunning it on the roads. This thing is that fast.

[@idkk1086]

amx 10p vid?

[@nakolulu411]

Why does Gaijin think this SPAA is worse than R3 T20

[@SikPuppy]

because the purpose of an SPAA is to kill planes, and the r3 has over quadruple the firerate so its a lot more forgiving in a new players hands?

[@nakolulu411]

@@SikPuppy you're right i guess the r3 does feel a lot easier to track planes

[@SikPuppy]

@@nakolulu411 People forget that SPAAs in warthunder are primarily balanced around killing planes because thats their role, so when they see an SPAA with >90mm of pen they forget all the other factors, which is honestly understandable tho :)

[@PanzerSteinn]

Odd, low tier vids should contain Epic Intro

[@Smokey348]

meanwhile the french AMX 13-40 is at 4.3. I'd say the amx 13 40 should be 5.0 or 5.3 and this thing should go higher

[@Bad_B3d]

stupid take. the AMX-13 40 is fine at 4.3

[@druanubis7194]

That's all I need another Leo!

[@Knight_Of_Soul_Valley]

I just Got my first nuke in the Tiger II H! Lovely video by the way❤

[@archangelari3420]

i love odd vehicles, like good all round vehicles bore me. I rly like the M728 CEV prob because the tank and I are both terrible.

[@mathewcurtis9401]

Glad I'm not the only one who says "oops" when I hit a virtual tree, with my virtual tank, in a video game.

[@Maus....]

OddBawZ you know DreadCellar?

[@laberdude]

i dont get it... gajin gives italy the r3.. they BR-up him to 5.7 so there is no SPAA between the spaghettiwirbel and 5.7 ..now they give us this thing( with ww2 crew uniforms) and it will surely move to 6.7 or something like this.. in the end: still no SPAA between 3.7 and 5.7

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

The obvious thing to do is add the Hungarian Nimrods

[@iTryRice]

Hey odd can you take out the F4U-7 for france? Instead of snebs you can take out 4x 500Ib and 3x 1000Ib! All individual drops

[@ceevee369]

I play every day and didn’t see the Volokolamsk map for 3 months at least. How can that be possible ? Certain maps are not on the 3 server locations ?

[@commisaryarreck3974]

So....How long until this gets upped to...6.7? 7.0? R3 treatment incoming lads, enjoy this while you can

[@epyonmetal7208]

Could go to 7.7 irl it had Prox Rounds so they could do that and add the 40m Nimrod for 5.0

[@alexanderkeith5]

Nice Mission Maker!

[@marcinos303]

I wonder what a vehicle based on the Leopard I chassis is doing at such a low BR, fighting against vehicles from WWII. The same situation as with half of Soviet vehicles that have an artificially lower BR. This game is pissing me off more and more.

[@bradywarford992]

Lmao the thing that blows my mind is all the other 40mm pen 91-93 but the ostwind and ostwind 2 don’t??

[@ZiasT34]

Can you play the premium T44-122

[@Codsworth_]

Did you upload at 1am bruh