The Most Over Engineered Plane Ever

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Wood By Wright How To

Wood By Wright How To

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@michaelt312
@michaelt312 2 күн бұрын
I am diagnosed with ADD. This plane would take me six hours to do anything. Because of this, I want one.
@theoldantleredmyth
@theoldantleredmyth 2 күн бұрын
I concur wholeheartedly lol
@vanessakitty8867
@vanessakitty8867 2 күн бұрын
And what a wonderful six hours that would be.
@erikwoods8306
@erikwoods8306 2 күн бұрын
Agreed, but then I'd probably never touch it again. The dopamine wears off too quickly.
@mattlewis3472
@mattlewis3472 2 күн бұрын
Lmao I feel attacked
@michaelt312
@michaelt312 2 күн бұрын
@@mattlewis3472, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't talking about you.
@Trashed20659
@Trashed20659 2 күн бұрын
Amazing! Adjust angles, side to side, forward-back, increment, etc., etc., etc. 3 hours later you're shaving just like the guy with the hammer-adjusted wood plane was 3 hours ago!
@jamesbarisitz4794
@jamesbarisitz4794 Күн бұрын
I've watched Japanese carpenters in competions to see who can take the thinnest shaving off a beam.They use a plane consisting of a body, a slab of tool steel, and a wooden wedge. The simplicity and perfection of the shaving is staggering!
@tektrixter
@tektrixter 2 күн бұрын
That Joerg (Slingshot Channel) reference was unexpected, but great.
@mattelias721
@mattelias721 2 күн бұрын
I'm not sure what to think. On one hand, it's a stunning tribute to the ingenuity of the human mind. On the other, my engineer's brain looks at this and thinks, "That... that is... far, far too many degrees of freedom there." At some point, if used even carefully, one of the adjusting doodads will wear and cause a failure mode, and with the remaining things that can be adjusted, how will you ever chase that down? All said, James, thanks for exposing us to this. I feel dirty.
@GrantHendrick
@GrantHendrick 2 күн бұрын
Very fun to see this plane but it seems like it would be more cost effective and faster to purchase multiple planes.
@Rsama60
@Rsama60 Күн бұрын
It wouldn’t be it is more effective.
@Vikingwerk
@Vikingwerk 2 күн бұрын
It’s like a manufacturing design tool, a plane you can set up at *any* function, to help dial in the design of subsequent planes.
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 2 күн бұрын
Yes!
@tarbucktransom
@tarbucktransom 2 күн бұрын
"Adjustable" as a concept taken to its furthest extreme. Lovely idea.
@yooper5638
@yooper5638 2 күн бұрын
I want one of these. I also want a new Corvette. I'm getting neither.
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 2 күн бұрын
I don't want either one. Never did. OK, you can scream at me now. 🤣🤣🤣
@flatulentdragon
@flatulentdragon 2 күн бұрын
That thing looks more like a piece of art than a functional tool. A beautiful piece of industrial art.
@g1mpster
@g1mpster Күн бұрын
That’s pretty much the story for all Bridge Tool creations.
@johnapppel64
@johnapppel64 2 күн бұрын
"Looks more artistic than functional" is a good description of not just the handle, but the whole plane.
@johnmarten445
@johnmarten445 2 күн бұрын
Occum's plane theory? The simplest choice of plane is most likely the best choice of plane.
@buckmcfarland6638
@buckmcfarland6638 2 күн бұрын
An Over Engineered plane that comes in a nice box so I can forget it is in the shop, it would make a great conversation piece.
@nicholasmanovich4330
@nicholasmanovich4330 2 күн бұрын
Just received my first bridge city made tool today. The MT2. Phenomenal little tool. Now that I've played with it I want my 100 bucks back. Not to mention the fact it took almost three weeks to get here.
@donaldstark-zt7tm
@donaldstark-zt7tm 2 күн бұрын
The frustration caused from using that plane makes it irresistible.
@LewHarriman
@LewHarriman 2 күн бұрын
Superb research tool! Not for everyday use, but hey, most complex, flexible research instruments are not built for fast changes in daily use. Thanks so much for showing us, and I'll hope to see some of your always well-controlled results of testing bed angles.
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 2 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@BarryinFredonia
@BarryinFredonia 2 күн бұрын
Odd but cool. Much like a concept vehicle but in the hand plane world. Happy New Year James!
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 2 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@johnford7847
@johnford7847 2 күн бұрын
Excellent video, James. How was beautiful, sturdy cabinetry ever made before such infinity adjustable tools were created? LOL! Still, an interesting device, although I'm not so sure I would describe such complexity as marvelous engineering. Thank you for sharing.
@martinrwolfe
@martinrwolfe 2 күн бұрын
They missed a couple of adjustments. No width or length adjustment. I want a plane that can joint a 12' board and smooth a 1' panel in the same plane.
@WoodworkingforAnyone
@WoodworkingforAnyone 2 күн бұрын
You speak for the people.
@jayelwin
@jayelwin 2 күн бұрын
Go go gadget hand plane!
@thathandtoolguy
@thathandtoolguy 2 күн бұрын
It may be a VP but it certainly is no MVP in the shop.
@pettere8429
@pettere8429 2 күн бұрын
I dunno, from what James said I think it is more valuable than the Stanley №1 which would make it a strong contender for Most Valuable Plane in the shop.
@rodneyfrost1674
@rodneyfrost1674 Күн бұрын
Great show , thanks , Fun and info the perfect blend.
@Andrew-e2r3q
@Andrew-e2r3q 2 күн бұрын
Bridge City designs look like they are made by people who only watch Star Trek and never the real world😂
@marcbarash6045
@marcbarash6045 2 күн бұрын
Thanks James and Jeff
@neilbradley9035
@neilbradley9035 Күн бұрын
was not expecting a slingshot channel reference 😂
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 күн бұрын
Fascinating plane indeed, James! Thanks for sharing!!! 😃 Happy new year! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@kencarlile1212
@kencarlile1212 2 күн бұрын
Now I just want to know when Reed Planes is going to come out with a 65° frog adjuster. :D
@juliocesararagon6714
@juliocesararagon6714 2 күн бұрын
tienes mucha razon demasiados accesorios para algo tan basico y simple cepillar. saludos
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 2 күн бұрын
Great video James! Perfect timing too - just after the holidays - a fun, relaxing, interesting bit of "happy-time". ❣👍
@jdscally
@jdscally 2 күн бұрын
Interestingly complex. Will be interested in what your test results are after all is said and done.
@stevenclarke2592
@stevenclarke2592 Күн бұрын
Amazing looking plane but way above what I would pay for a plane. The engineering is amazing.
@mikesalmo
@mikesalmo Күн бұрын
I don’t know if “Gizmosity” was intended to be a Handtool Rescue reference, but I’m choosing to believe so
@jricard0745
@jricard0745 2 күн бұрын
With all those set screws, did you check the flatness of the sole 😅 !
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 2 күн бұрын
Yes. It is dead flat.
@hassanal-mosawi4235
@hassanal-mosawi4235 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing that, amazing!
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 2 күн бұрын
I agree, it is an amazing piece. Well suited for Jeff's purposes.
@iainmcculloch5807
@iainmcculloch5807 2 күн бұрын
For a moment there, I thought you were going to say that was your Christmas present from Sarah! 😆
@barrydoxseyuk
@barrydoxseyuk 2 күн бұрын
Great review. I'm looking forward to the testing. Dont forget diamond paste to sharpen. Yes, for the most part, it stays in the box. Now, most of the nice woods are not allowed (my beloved Cocobolo).
@brettbuck7362
@brettbuck7362 2 күн бұрын
"Not allowed"? What do you mean?
@zacnomore
@zacnomore 2 күн бұрын
Seems like a brilliant tool for plane makers to design the ideal configuration of a more normal plane. Not really that convenient to use in the shop though when you can just switch between a couple planes in seconds rather than minutes of adjustment on this thing
@chrishb7074
@chrishb7074 2 күн бұрын
It’s magnificently bonkers and the world is a better place with it.
@reedplanes728
@reedplanes728 Күн бұрын
The VP-60 is an amazing plane. It will help us test and learn a lot about bedding angles, chip breakers and throat openings. James will be busy for a while! This plane follows along the long line of woodworking tools that are multi tools. Where this tool stands out is how well it does so many things. It is so well designed and made. I would not call this plane over engineered. It appears to be correctly designed to accomplish the tasks it was set out to do. What a challenge and accomplishment. Yes I also did not like the tote. It is great to have tool makers reach for the stars and succeed. Oh and that often ends up with a costly product.
@507718
@507718 2 күн бұрын
amazing ingenuity and manufacturing. but you can get three planes or hand tools that do all this for a fraction of the price, but also dayum, thats a nice tool
@kennethspeed2019
@kennethspeed2019 2 күн бұрын
It looks like a prop from a Steampunk science fiction movie. Interesting to see, but if I had one (fat chance) it would live in a bank vault.
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 2 күн бұрын
I don't even know what a "Steampunk science fiction movie" is. I quit watching movies about 20 years ago.
@kcirful
@kcirful 2 күн бұрын
Good Lord, and I thought my Stanley 55 was a bit much to set up!
@velvetvideo
@velvetvideo 2 күн бұрын
"let me show you its features" hahaha..great reference
@briandotson1654
@briandotson1654 2 күн бұрын
That tote looks like it was inspired by a Varga Girl
@philaandrew100
@philaandrew100 2 күн бұрын
When toolmakers try to out weird each other
@myteric117
@myteric117 2 күн бұрын
"gizmocity" lol
@Richardwright-we6rv
@Richardwright-we6rv 2 күн бұрын
love the video James but i too prefer my sweetheart type 15's, greetings from York, England
@petrsidlo7614
@petrsidlo7614 2 күн бұрын
10/10 would sell my neighbors kidney to buy this.
@michaeltrivette1728
@michaeltrivette1728 2 күн бұрын
This comment has helped me to realize that my neighbors aren't as useless as I had originally thought. Thank you
@petrsidlo7614
@petrsidlo7614 2 күн бұрын
@@michaeltrivette1728 any time, friend, any time.
@paullukoskie6955
@paullukoskie6955 2 күн бұрын
This seems like one of those “just because we can, doesn’t mean we should” kind of things…
@uwyphi
@uwyphi 2 күн бұрын
Is there an engineering genius in the world that can make a plane like this but as user friendly as a bailey pattern ?
@40jwthomas
@40jwthomas 2 күн бұрын
This plane seems like the concept car of planes. Super cool. Wildly over engineered. Expensive. Everyone wants one. But it paves the way for future planes. Maybe
@dieterjosef
@dieterjosef 2 күн бұрын
It's fascinating and well thought through but it doesn't make sense to construct a flexible plane that can do the job of three other planes but is more than three times as expensive (I guess), and you can only use one at a time. That would make sense if it's a large tool for a small workshop but for a handplane it's definitely a disadvantage. But moving the blade sideways can be kept and also the ball bearing for the screw. Complicated but not useless.
@kennethbezanson4266
@kennethbezanson4266 2 күн бұрын
Very intriguing and interesting specimin! Sounds like you should swap the tote before beginning your testing to save your hands some grief
@genem2768
@genem2768 2 күн бұрын
After referencing Joerg Spave I'm expecting a really cool slingshot build in the near future.
@daniel_bohrer
@daniel_bohrer 2 күн бұрын
It's clear to me that you "need" at least three of this plane so you don't have to adjust it every time you need a new setting. One as a shooter and for endgrain, one as a jack, and one as a smoother… 😁
@robohippy
@robohippy 2 күн бұрын
I have one of their 12 inch planes that I got just out of curiosity. It is the same one that Rex Kruger reviewed. I had the same problems he did, mostly the bed was seriously warped. I returned it, and the replacement had the same identical problem. They ain't what they used to be. If I ever get a custom plane again, I will buy from Stavros Gakos. If you haven't seen his plane making videos they are worth the viewings! Things of beauty and treasures for life!
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 2 күн бұрын
Ya their quality after they sold the company has gone down hill fast.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot Күн бұрын
This seems like a plane designer's plane to me. Find the setup you want then build a plane to match those stats.
@PatientTortoise
@PatientTortoise 2 күн бұрын
Looking forward to you two having fun & no I will not be purchasing any of your ‘secondhand’ toys.
@kennethnielsen3864
@kennethnielsen3864 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@bogdanaasarbu8038
@bogdanaasarbu8038 2 күн бұрын
Very interesting plane but , honestly, I don't like planes that have a sole made of more pieces. I think that the sole and body of the plane should always be one single , super solid block .
@Ham68229
@Ham68229 2 күн бұрын
Ok, just take my money now... Seriously, why aren't all planes like this? To me, this simplifies things just a bit more OCD. Honestly, I don't mind the set up time, I look at this as a multi functional type of plane. One can always change out that handle... just sayin. Maybe you've done this already, not sure, haven't checked through all your video's but, shooting boards and planes? Have you done anthing on that topic? Been thinking of making one that Paul Sellers made years ago. Just curious. Great video as always, cheers :)
@dandelie2067
@dandelie2067 2 күн бұрын
For me, that plane would mostly sit in an original box. I think I would rather have my Stanley #4 Shiefield England made plane. 35 bucks brand new in a box wraped in the original paper. 😳 After 65 years later, straight from the box it took less than a minute to get a thin 1000 shaving. Cheap and works as intended.
@WoodworkingforAnyone
@WoodworkingforAnyone 2 күн бұрын
At no point in its features did you mention how many FPS it fires at :(
@donaldcallahan450
@donaldcallahan450 2 күн бұрын
thats nuts james
@scottswineford6714
@scottswineford6714 2 күн бұрын
I really can't envision myself having the patience to deal with that "Modern Marvel". Keeping track of the last settings I used and why would likely grind me to a stop.
@lelandallen
@lelandallen 2 күн бұрын
If you owned it, would you replace the handle?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Күн бұрын
Yes I would.
@nicetryfbi357
@nicetryfbi357 2 күн бұрын
The evil German laugh was the only thing missing in that reference lol
@jimspence0
@jimspence0 Күн бұрын
I have a Wood River 5 1/2 plane that I would use for both the end grain and the figured grain. I believe it would take less effort than what you displayed. (can't really say) It's been my experience (all 45 yrs worth) that low angle planes were not any better than bedrock planes. You can get the angles quite literally to within a couple degrees of each other. Also low angle planes don't usually have as much mass as bedrock so chatter and less momentum can come into play.
@micahsparkman-rv7dp
@micahsparkman-rv7dp 2 күн бұрын
I imagine this is how people reacted when iron body planes were being patented.
@pettere8429
@pettere8429 2 күн бұрын
Make sure to measure it up and figure out how all the parts are shaped so Jeff can make his own take on it. 😁
@athmostafa2462
@athmostafa2462 Күн бұрын
One tool for a job is easier than such a costly tool 😊 .
@standswithfish
@standswithfish Күн бұрын
Soooo, that would make it a fancy plain?
@walterw2
@walterw2 2 күн бұрын
so really you just need three or four of them, each set up differently, all with custom-made replacement totes and you're in business
@alandesgrange9703
@alandesgrange9703 2 күн бұрын
So, it should be displayed on a coffee table or mantle, versus in the shop. I have a Wilton bullet vice in my man cave. Got it!
@musamor75
@musamor75 Күн бұрын
OTT (Over the top). If you show this to Sam Maloof or James Krenov, you would soon get an answer. I've seen gifted people do wonderful stuff with tools you wouldn't look twice at. There's such a thing as being too clever, then when you cross the boundary, you look something else.
@paulcernava7091
@paulcernava7091 Күн бұрын
One plane to rule them all
@dalepatton4861
@dalepatton4861 2 күн бұрын
I can't use one of those because I'm a Television Engineer NOT a Mechanical Engineer.
@robertberger8642
@robertberger8642 Күн бұрын
Ok, fine, you’ve convinced me. Mail it to me and I’ll accept it. Incredibly generous of me, I know.
@kent5400
@kent5400 2 күн бұрын
If someone had bought the entire production run, they could have each one set up differently. Then the issues would change; which one is the...?
@perstaunstrup3451
@perstaunstrup3451 2 күн бұрын
Sooo… one VP plus 5 min for every setup; or 10-15 Stanleys, all prepared for their individual strong side, ready to use; tough choice.
@BuckSterling1
@BuckSterling1 2 күн бұрын
If only the sole length could transform between a #3 and a #7 it would be perfect!
@MarkBenge
@MarkBenge 2 күн бұрын
i bought a combination plane once and only use it for rabbits because it so fiddly single use tools are what i buy now
@BunnyKins1970
@BunnyKins1970 Күн бұрын
Will you be doing a 'Dropped it onto a concrete floor' test? 😅 💚🐇🐴💚
@robertmceuen3630
@robertmceuen3630 2 күн бұрын
I realize if you want a plane like this, price does not enter your mind. But what is the PR?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 2 күн бұрын
I have only seen 4 of them sold in the last decade and prices ranged from $1200-4500
@krisvind1715
@krisvind1715 2 күн бұрын
Joerg would be proud
@RYwoodview
@RYwoodview 2 күн бұрын
This is no plane Jane. . .
@kendehaas668
@kendehaas668 Күн бұрын
It appears that it is about as time-consuming to set up as a #55. Probably just as finicky too.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Күн бұрын
it actually has more parts then a 55.
@1deerndingo
@1deerndingo 2 күн бұрын
There's a difference between Need and Want. Most are consumed with Want.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 2 күн бұрын
but I NEED this!
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 2 күн бұрын
A test bed for a VP. 60
@ChangShuyeGuqin
@ChangShuyeGuqin 2 күн бұрын
Wood by Joerg? Wait...what?!
@SeahawkSailor
@SeahawkSailor 2 күн бұрын
I like your description “gizmocity”. Cool, but designed for a wealthy collector. Rather like a Lamborghini…
@perrymurphy4100
@perrymurphy4100 2 күн бұрын
If I wanted to know the price exactly I guess I can just research it. But that would require effort on my part. It's not worth it because I don't care enough. Don't get me wrong, I loved the video, because it was well done and confirmed an existing opinion. Now don't you feel good James?😂😂 Keep em coming lad, you're doing great!!
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 2 күн бұрын
There really is no going rate for them as they don't come up for sale very often. I'm only seeing three or four of them in the last 10 years. I've been the cheapest I've seen was $1,200 but I saw one that went for $4,500
@airnashville3883
@airnashville3883 2 күн бұрын
Bridge City Tools: the pox John Economaki cast upon the woodworking world
@ianpearse4480
@ianpearse4480 2 күн бұрын
It's shiny!
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 2 күн бұрын
It's brilliantly engineered. But I you cannot use it because of the uncomfortable handle , then it's worthless.🙂🙂
@abhisheksoni2980
@abhisheksoni2980 2 күн бұрын
I mean, if you have a really small cabinet with space for just one plane..
@ronboe6325
@ronboe6325 2 күн бұрын
Well you could simply carve a new handle and save the factory one. Still. Not a user. Great plane to have in the tool and die shop to design up a new plane. Or if you just like collecting cool stuff.
@nomercadies
@nomercadies 2 күн бұрын
My Cabinet! Ah!
@mabooooyleatherface.1044
@mabooooyleatherface.1044 Күн бұрын
At first i was amazed ,, i need this " is what i said to myself . Then i heard the price and really it looks gimmicky and bad and i'm totally fine with the fact that i will never ever own one .
@AJman-EZ
@AJman-EZ 2 күн бұрын
CDB! 😁
@DougD-j2h
@DougD-j2h 2 күн бұрын
If I had a plane like that, I would have an anger in me like that of the comedian Lewis Black. There would be a lot of yelling and frustration coming out of me.
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