The Most Overrated Card From Each Cycle (Arkham Horror: The Card Game)

[@ollie67584]

Travis if going to feel pretty silly with his Sled Dog comments when he realises that he can give the dogs Boxing Gloves.

[@blinxy511]

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[@gabriel0santiago]

Wait what?

[@SpiritJuiceYT]

"Behold, my sled dogs I've taught to box with untold fighting spirit!" - Leo Anderson Sled Dog Spirit deck

[@tcr7]

@@SpiritJuiceYT I built that deck for a standalone but ended up playing something else. And here I thought I came up with the idea on my own! lol I guess with arkham there's no such thing as a unique deck anyway. Someone has played it already.

[@Zybran93]

@@SpiritJuiceYT this deck looks so funny xD

[@SpiritJuiceYT]

Looking forward to the "Most Accurately Rated Card From Each Cycle" video next.

[@Rylingo]

All too often players use a Ward of Protection to cancel a treachery when they might have overcome the test anyway. They lose a card, a resource and take a horror unnecessarily. Stargazing removes all of these costs at the expense of being random. I think players overestimate the value of a card being 'active' because they don't see when they would have pulled a '0' and beaten the treachery anyway. For that reason, I still think Stargazing is underrated by players. I've also never had this card fail to be drawn and I predominantly play 2 player. The deck has been mixed and I eventually draw it anyway. The card is obviously stronger on higher player counts though.

[@MrNephthys17]

This might be sacrilegious, but my pick for the Core set would be Leo De Luca. When the game came out he seemed like such a crazy strong ally but as the game has evolved I think he's really dropped off. Compressing your actions and giving yourself a better chance to succeed at tests is better than an extra action imo. Especially with characters like Preston and Charlie, who struggle to get value out of 3 actions, let alone 4. I pretty much never play him now. Other allies are just better. Also I'm not aware of anyone who thinks Kymani is a top tier Goon. Most people I've seen think they're mediocre at best.

[@PlayingBoardGames]

Leo De Luca was actually my personal pick for Core Set, so I agree with you!

[@n.kirkevans6256]

Preach brother! If you want to hear Cthulu laugh, tell him your plans. Arkham is at least 35% reacting to the unexpected. That could be a good fighter who is overwhelmed engaging an enemy and evading, or having to take actions to neutralize a weakness, or moving away from a Hunter enemy. The ability to have another action tor react cannot be underestimated. @@DakonBlackblade2

[@TheShanicpower]

Kymani’s a pretty busted Fighter.

[@patricksullivan6988]

I've learned the shortcomings of Stargazing after being initially excited about it. I do still like playing it in Patrice - as she doesn't get to hold onto her hand to choose when to use a Ward of Protection, and as she's often cash-strapped.

[@jmerranko77]

Sled dog should give you the option to search your deck for a second dog when you play it. Even if you don't get to immediately play the second sled dog and just add it to your hand

[@Valdor_Chess]

The only thing I want to say about Hallowed Mirror/Soothing Melody is that my Guardians are usually using it for horror healing, not damage.

[@Timlagor]

The newest cards that lots of people haven't even heard of make this no longer an auto-play isn't really much of an argument. I'm sure there were better options for over-rated (though I never though it was more than a strong contender for every deck)

[@MattCrawley_Music]

They don't heal other investigators?

[@gravitysloths5127]

You guys should do a tierlist for all of the assets/rewards you can get that stay in your deck from each scenario and standalone

[@thetimebinder]

Hallowed Mirror heals another investigator 90% of the time. That's why you run it.

[@KrishnaRoskin]

For me it's 90% of the time I heal my beat cop or dog and 10% of the time it's another investigator.

[@thetimebinder]

@@KrishnaRoskin We just tend to bounce them and replay them.

[@davidko9289]

My jimmies have been thoroughly rustled. Well Prepared and Hallowed Mirror are adequately rated.

[@Frozenfidget]

Bit of a niche example but Leo with Well Prepared is fantastic. When his signature Mitch is out he gives you 2 wilds every time, basically guaranteed unexpected courage.

[@hammerdall]

Well Prepared worked out pretty well in my Will Yorick deck too. It’s not a bad card, but it’s probably not worth building around. Just include it when you recognize the assets you want anyway (and/or your signature) happen to combo well with it

[@DarthStalkers]

Well prepared is great in my Leo Anderson deck. Mitch Brown gives +2 to anything so I tend to just have it in my deck to handle mythos encounters

[@rupert7565]

The one thing I would like to say in defense of delve to deep and stargazing is: you don't play them for yourself but to help your allies.

[@woodroeparadee8374]

I really genuinely like "sled dogs" in a Tommy deck, but i havent found a really solid use for them anywhere else

[@DrDifra]

Wait isn't geas part of what makes big money the strongest deck in the game ?

[@astutedunsparce4036]

The only one I'm really pondering is Hallowed Mirror since there aren't many Guardian accessory slots to begin with and this one's just readily available at Level 0 and is more flexible than Riot Whistle. I can see out of all of Circle Undone why it was chosen, but I would personally overrate Deny Existence from that set (scorching take!)

[@christopherpomeroy6703]

Sled dogs + Leo + Rod of Animalism is strong especially on large maps. Yes, you still need weapons. Even two sled dogs gives you movement and ammo free standard damage. Not sure if sled dogs is viable in any other build though.

[@astutedunsparce4036]

Would love a gameplay video where all three of you play a Geas deck. Justin's pact is no commit, Bryn's is no play, and Travis's is no draw! 👺

[@camipco]

The best use I've seen for sled dogs is with dream enhancing serum for deck thinning. Without, y'know, playing them.

[@ShunyValdez]

I'm a little late, but I use Sled Dogs in my Suzi deck. You see, she brought snacks... ...for herself. And there's 4 of them.

[@andrewrobson9363]

Geas says you can't commit cards "during your turn" so you definitely still can use it to bump up your brain and commit cards during the mythos phase without breaking it. Same for how you can pick "draw" and just get your upkeep draws, that does mean you can't run cigarette case though so I usually just pick commit.

[@PlayingBoardGames]

Most of my Rogue's are running their treachery skill cards specifically for Frozen in Fear, which is where my perspective on Geas and the skill cards comes into play.

[@andrewrobson9363]

@@PlayingBoardGames Fair point it doesn't work well with treacheries that have you test at turn end.

[@LaboratoryGrey]

You ever just like, crave a Bear Paw?

[@davidandersson7642]

Absolutely agree with Well Prepared. Compare it to the other cards in its cycle (Cornered, Recall the Future, High Roller, Quick Learner) and it requires so much more than the rest in order to work. The others at worst have a niche, but Well Prepared's niche is just spend a bunch of xp and then draw those cards and play them, which is just not great.

[@ethanlivemere1162]

I feel like it might be more worth it for Rogues with the Chicago Typewriter or Beretta, since they need the boost more (and Beretta has a succeed by clause). So Skids likes this I guess.

[@n.kirkevans6256]

Why are our Jimmy's rustled? Because we have great memories of playing that card, or that investigator. Every time I hear a YT'er rank investigators, I cringe when they come to Sefina. I know she isn't the strongest investigator, but she was the first one I tried to build creatively, and I still want to build a great Sefina deck like Justin wants to build a great Skulver deck. It will probably never happen, but the moment we give up on that dream is the day we should quit Arkham and just start buying MTG.

[@Aflacist]

Let’s go bear paws

[@dozensofdonuts8695]

That Kymani choice physically hurt me. Granted it's Dark Matter (which I've found to be really easy), but Kymani has been killing it. Edit: I agree that they're nowhere near Tony though for being a goon

[@Minecraftlover73]

Counterpoint for well-prepared, joe with the necronomicon.

[@KrishnaRoskin]

I wanted to love Well Prepared when it first came out but it always fell flat. "Brrr fight go high" isn't that exciting or useful. But Runic Axe with Inscription of the Elders might change that? "Durrrr, Mark git clue with chop chop real gud."

[@Steve_Keen]

I've been away from the channel for a bit, and just catching up, so I gotta ask. I'm pretty sure the Bear Paws thing is just a joke, but in the tiny miniscule wee little chance it's not.. is it? :D

[@PlayingBoardGames]

The best way to find out the truth is to bite into a Bear Paw and see how real it is!

[@Steve_Keen]

@@PlayingBoardGames haha, we actually already have some in the house

[@masonbrantley9774]

I think my only disagreement is Lupara being included, if only because I can’t remember the last time I’ve heard anyone even *mention* it as a combat option. So it’s kinda nitpicky because of my sphere’s views.

[@Timlagor]

Gonna have to dispute Lucky beause Vicious Blow exists. I overrated that one SO HARD because there used to be almost no ways to get extra damage.

[@EyesOnTheTreeline]

Everyone brings Sled Dogs, play Teamwork... case closed.

[@yellowbellytabletop]

playing hallowed mirror in true solo really gave me insight on how action inefficient it really is.

[@johnavon5660]

I played Sled Dogs exactly once - uggh! Quickly dropped down the list - been binder fodder since

[@tcr7]

I know that Stargazing isn't very good. It's just so damn fun. I want to have a few cards like that in every deck. I want to feel the excitement of drawing those fun cards like Stargazing, and then the fun times of drawing the card it puts into the mythos deck. You can tell me it is the worst purple card in the game. I would not care and I would still run it.

[@Timlagor]

I'd not seen Kymani before but I find it weird that anyone would think of them as "Goon" Edit: whups

[@MattCrawley_Music]

*them Well kymanis ability is about dealing with and getting rid of enemies, so that sounds like a goon

[@Timlagor]

@@MattCrawley_Music Goon is described in the video as one-dimensional -she looks like someone designed to do a wider variety of activities. Perhaps there's a consensus that that just isn't an optimal way to play...

[@Aoshi312]

Yorick sled dogs is amazingly fun

[@Crovax123]

I think the firearm from hemlock gonna make kimany live way more easy

[@chauveet]

Whew, that Lupara conversation got tense!

[@jaredlowder5248]

Barkham Horror with Sled Dog decks

[@thetimebinder]

Geas? Oh no. *Cracks knuckles and hits all caps*. Geas is my favorite Rogue card. The only reason you guys don't like it is because you guy love skills too much.

[@PlayingBoardGames]

I think we gave more reasons for not liking it than just loving skills.

[@Minecraftlover73]

​@@PlayingBoardGamesKind of sounds like a destroyed mirror for me.

[@thetimebinder]

@@PlayingBoardGames Yeah, I was just making a bit of fun. I use very little skills in my decks and I tend to play switch, so Geas is awsome. Dedicated clue getters or monster hunters have better ways yo get bonus stats.

[@Yrevnoc]

My pick for most overrated core set card would be tabooed Dr. Milan. I still hear people talk about tabooed Milan like he's a tier above all the other lv0 seeker allies, whereas I think he's just one of the many good lv0 seeker allies.

[@rupert7565]

I wonder we're unexpected courage falls on your underrated-overrated scale.

[@potawto]

Well Prepared + Precious Memento/Plucky(3) seemed to work well when I played William Yorick. I struggled with books and brains and this seemed to solve the problem pretty consistently. Is there a better solve? I got lucky fetching Well Prepared a couple times (Short Supply + elder sign, for example), but usually just drew it after doing normal Yorick things to get Precious Memento and Plucky. I'm pretty new and have only played Yorick and Calvin, so my perspective is limited. Is there any "autoinclude" (Item based?) book/brain fixer for Yorick that's better than this?

[@MattCrawley_Music]

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[@fongstar]

If you put the video on mute, Bryn always looks like he’s rapping when he talks.

[@christophermusgrave2970]

Man why are you playing with a guy that small as the one in the middle

[@DerBK2]

*heavy breathing*

[@mitchellkopitch]

Most overrated card is Lone Wolf for me. It takes 4 turns until Lone Wolf actually starts giving you a greater return than an emergency cache. Granted, if you can get it down turn 1 and you’re in a 1-2 player game, it’s great, and in general it’s still good but I do think it’s not as good as people say. It basically had a monopoly for multiple cycles because Rogues actually had extremely few ways to gain resources for some reason

[@AP90Jumalauta]

Stargazing is a social experiment. That is what i learned about it when i played it in my De vermis Mysteries Luke deck.

[@gabriel0santiago]

Thanks for the video

[@ZovcDrafts]

If you look in the mirror and say "Sled Dog" four times, Travis will appear and be forced to forced to play with them. (I played Sled Dogs with Lily's foot upgrade and it wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either.)