The MOST POWERFUL ELVES In Middle Earth | Middle Earth Lore

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[@wallywest9257]

Fingolfin: Challenges Morgoth to a 1v1 Gimli:......"That still only counts as one!"

[@salamanderxd8758]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@suzanabunikwatch4197]

😂😂😂😂😜😜

[@Special85]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@EdBoBBy]

amazing 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@gholamdapantaloonsniffer8218]

*slides underneath 60 orcs nuts and raises his Axe killing all of them* .......just doing Gimli things 😂

[@jonathanwarncke5377]

How is Lúthien never on any of these lists? She is literally the daughter of a Maia and with her music managed to put Morgoth himself to sleep and move Mandos to such pity that he allowed her and Beren a second life. Doesn’t get much more powerful than that

[@jetoner1]

Agreed

[@jamesaron1967]

Maybe she wasn't included because she was half Maia and therefore partly divine?

[@jonathanwarncke5377]

@@jamesaron1967 maybe, but they Elrond is descended from her too and they mentioned his Maia heritage as a reason for including him

[@jamesaron1967]

@@jonathanwarncke5377 I have yet to see the video as of this writing and don't know the criteria by which the characters are ranked. I don't know why she was excluded if indeed the case.

[@jonathanwarncke5377]

@@jamesaron1967 fair enough, well they explicitly say they didn’t “rank” the characters based on power level or anything, but they do mention it when they talk about Elrond

[@janblazek6533]

Finrod Felagund definitely. Being able to battle Sauron just by power of his voice is a remarkable feat of strength.

[@lordearthwormjim]

And he died killing a werewolf with his bare hands and teeth. While being weak after torture and long prison in Saurons cells. Legend.

[@philipphammer3474]

Definitely would have brought up him too, as well as Luthien.

[@andymason3555]

Yes, Finrod Felagund may not have fought Balrogs, but he was an amazing leader. And he battled the above mentioned enemies. However, this is a really good list.

[@Drazog]

Feanor is the strongest according to Tolkien.

[@alanobrien3736]

Couldn't agree more. Finrod battled with a fully powered Sauron. Sauron was never as powerful without the Ring after his body was killed in the Akallabeth. When Elrond and Galadriel faced him in Dol Guldur he was without the Ring. As we know, on its creation he invested it with a lot of his power so his spirit form was not the all powerful Sauron faced by Finrod. Incidentally, Sauron was not able to devise Finrod's identity so he was not entirely overcome.

[@drix4275]

Morgoth: *Stands like a tower in front of Fingolfin in silence* Fingolfin: "You talk mighty smack for someone whose feet are within stabbing distance. :D"

[@Enerdhil]

.......in silence You talk mighty smack........ Am I missing something here?

[@drix4275]

@@Enerdhil Of course Melkor/Morgoth never talks smack. It's a joke about his towering might, silence and the fact that Fingolfin gave the original evil an everlasting limp.

[@justenholder918]

This is so funny lol

[@isaacgagarin6296]

@@drix4275 Imagine being such a badass that you gave a being of pure evil not to mention a god a limp for eternity lol

[@anatoldenevers237]

@@isaacgagarin6296 The fact that Morgoth and his minions never boasted about that fight even though Morgoth killed Fingolfin says a lot about how humiliating it was for him.

[@MountainFisher]

Everyone forgets what Galadriel did when Eorl and the Rohirrim rode south to the Field of Celebrant. She sent a glowing mist that pushed back all the dark fogs of Dol Guldur AND she healed all the horses and men of weariness so they could ride full speed and get to Celebrant in time to save Gondor.

[@neferaisha7544]

Certainly one of the reasons she made the list

[@kauetadaieski3131]

She was considered the most powerful of the Eldar in the third age. Also that is one of her specialities, that she learned from Melian most likely.

[@armygrunt13]

That would have been a nice addition to the films; even just a brief shot of the Rohirrim riding along and Théoden commenting on the increased speed and stamina of their mounts, with an image of Galadriel working her magic. Heck, as powerful as Elrond and Glorfindel were, Tolkien himself did state that Galadriel was the most powerful elf still alive during LOTR. It think it also speaks volumes, the fact that those on the list who were arguably stronger were long since dead by then.

[@tomfrost6049]

@@armygrunt13 I think that may have been a directorial choice to make men seem like a more powerful force... by the end of the 3rd movie we're led to believe men are the driving force. I agree though, it would have awe inspiring to show that men still had such allies after Helms Deep.

[@armygrunt13]

@@tomfrost6049, fair points. I do think the films did dirty by the soldiers of Gondor, though. Seriously, in all the fight scenes they look weak and pathetic, losing one-on-one fights with orcs much smaller than them, despite being supposedly professional soldiers wearing full-plate armour! Regarding the elves and Helms Deep, while it's not in the books, I did like Haldir and his company turning up for the battle. Not sure if any survived, though two of them do drag Gimli away when they were being overwhelmed, plus you can some of them pulling back into the keep.

[@jebpayne1710]

Maedhros never gets the credit he deserves. He fought and survived every major battle of the first age, survived imprisonment by Morgoth, fought with one hand, lead the Union of Maedhros. A lot of the same can be said for Maglor as well. Luthien defeated Sauron and is the daughter of a Maia, where is she? There are so many powerful elves that we need a part 2

[@makitauknl]

Maedhros, grandson of Finwe and Mahtan was by right heir to the throne of high king of the Noldor after his father Feanor's death but he relinquished his claim as the heir of Finwë and made his uncle Fingolfin High King this after he was saved by his cousin Fingon from Thangorodrim. He showed always his valor in all his battles for good or for worse. Even after all his evil deeds in later life, the highest maia Eonwe still respected him and let him and his brother take the two silmarills...what a tragic sad antihero Maedhros was...

[@judowrestlerka]

He was a traitor to his people and a mass murderer.

[@makitauknl]

@@judowrestlerka The oath of Feanor and the doom of Mandos drove him this way

[@judowrestlerka]

@@makitauknl I don't care if the devil made him do it. He was a bad guy in the book. His character was meant to portray the ULTIMATE EVIL.....one that wares the same face as the good guys and who's deeds ultimately help Morgoth in more ways than harm him. The sons are that evil. The one that comes from blind adherence to a mad mad and his madness.

[@makitauknl]

@@judowrestlerka i think you talk about his deeds, but wasn't this video/debate not about The MOST POWERFUL ELVES In Middle Earth? If then, it must include also Maedhros in my opinion. And of his deeds, several times he wanted to be good but then the oath would not let him to.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

It took the entire Valar to defeat Morgoth. Then an elf came to challenge Morgoth and managed to give him so many scars as remembrance...Way to go Fingolfin for going that far.

[@astabonakid4551]

I think melkor never battled face to face like what he did with fingolfin. He pretty much did only destroy and run. The only reason he got dominion of middle earth was because after he destroyed the two lamps, he hid. Remember that he trembled in fear when tulkas and manwe showed anger after finding out the underhanded plot to destroy the lamps.

[@phillipsmejkal1]

Î would like to see that on screen! expecially geta depiction of Melkor himself ina movie. I wonder about his size.

[@Feuerbach1]

I always like the detail that Fingolfin calls out Morgoth for being a false lord, and more importantly, a false creator. That he is craven and MERELY a lord of slaves, he could never rally any loyalty to himself without fear of death or pain, and Fingolfin says YOU ARE PATHETIC!

[@BeyondYore]

You forgot Lúthien, who managed to sing Morgoth himself into sleep.

[@stevenr4822]

Haven't seen to the end though was really expecting her on here.

[@jetoner1]

I was hoping to see her too.

[@dlevi67]

Half Maia, though...

[@theodredofrohan9727]

Half maia, as was elrond

[@dlevi67]

@@theodredofrohan9727 Elrond was only 1/16 maia (as the great-grandchild of Lúthien)

[@ironfae]

Elrond will always be my personal favorite. He was one of the very few elves who was never motivated or corrupted by personal ambitions. He always served causes and goals greater than himself. He truly was one of the finest examples of both a hero and great leader.

[@stevenstehling]

He also chose not to claim lordship over all of elfdom in Middle Earth, as was well within his birthright after the death of Gil-galad. He didn't seek power. He led those that chose to follow him and counsel to those that sought it.

[@eugene9852]

I totally agree with your choice for number 1. The battle between Fingolfin and Morgoth was one of the greatest stories I've read, and still gives me chills. I'm feeling inspired now to read The Silmarillion again.

[@enigma9971]

Such an epic book

[@jsmproductions1197]

With eyes shining with the light of the Valar. So powerful!!!

[@BJETNT]

I wish they could turn that into a movie because it can easily be done now. It would bring an entire new generation into the fold of reading the books also.

[@jasons5982]

Instead we are getting feminist driven nonsense in September

[@womblesfan8939]

Doesn't he get saved by the big eagle or something?

[@TurinTuramber]

"Morgoth , arguably the most powerful being to enter middle earth" *Tulkas belly laughs*

[@mszalans4817]

Tulkas was only an idiot with brute strength. Melkor influenced the whole Arda, literally pushing his power into the soil. Before that he could easily take on multiple Valar, including Tulkas at once. His influence reached animals, plants, men, orcs, basically everything. His legacy lives thousands of years after he was banished and will live at least until Dagor Dagorath. Tulkas is nobody compared to that.

[@TurinTuramber]

Imagine kids in a playground, one angsty naughty kid kicks over ant hills, pulls the wings off some flies, throws stones at the floodlights, plays with spiders then the final straw is when he throws sand at the other kids. Now the big quiet kid goes up to the naughty kid, folds him into a pretzel and drops kicks him off the map for several millennia. Which kid had the most power? 😄 Edit: Several millennia should really be till the end of school.

[@EM-tx7qm]

Melkor was the second strongest being at the height of his power. Second only to Eru himself. Peak Melkor completely eclipses Tulkas in every respect. Melkor contended with all the Valar save Tulkas at the same time for an extended period of time. Tulkas couldn’t do that

[@mszalans4817]

​@@TurinTuramber The "big" and not-so-quiet kid observes the naughty one for some time. All other kids beg the "big" one for help. Finally they gang-beat the naughty one with the big kid dealing the final blow(s) and triumphing over evil kids body. Nobody dared to fight the naughty one 1v1. They throw the naughty one out of the playgroud. But it turns out that it did not solve the problem, because ants and flies have been persuaded by kicked kid to mercifully bite everyone, floodlights are gone for good because little bastard messed up electrics everywhere around, and the soil itself has been poisoned. So now, everyone is genuinely scared that one day, the naughty kid will come back with even worse ideas and all of them will have to pay him and his little minions just to leave them alone. The big kid has no idea how to deal with the situation because he always relayed on others to tell him what to do. Of course, the naught kid was and will be the most powerful of them all, unless they figure out a way to finally separate from him. The big guy would have never been able to reach his foe alone. But he probably doesn't realise all of that because of low IQ.

[@TurinTuramber]

@@EM-tx7qmMelkor had the better biographer clearly. I always considered Eru on a higher shelf than Melkor so wouldn't dare to compare them.

[@Dante-si5gi]

My list: 20.Círdan (Oldest Elf in Midle Earth by Third Age, comes from Oldest genaration of Elves, Has Elven ring of Power.) 19.Beleg Strongbow (Capitan of Doriath, friend of Túrin.) 18.Elrond (Son of Eärendill, fought in War of the Last Aliance, one of most powerful Elves in the Third Age, possesor of Elven Ring of Power.) 17.Celebrimbor (Grandson of Fëanor, Lord of Eregion, created Rings of Power) 16.Maeglor (Second Son of Fëanor, fought and survived all Battles of Beleriand.) 15.Gil-Galad (Last High-King of the Noldor, with Elendil defeated weakend Sauron.) 14.Glorfindel (Lord of Gondolin, scared The Witch-King, killed a Balrog but died in the Proces.) 13.Galadriel (Strongest Elf that survived First Age, destroyed Dol Gul-Dur 12.Turgon (King of Gondolin, his sword is steal feared by the Orcs.) 11.Maedhros (Oldest Son of Fëanor, one handded Hero, fought in all battles of Beleriand.) 10.Ecthelion (Gratest Warrior of Gondolin, slayed The most Orcs in history, killed Gothmog but died in the Proces.) 9.Fingon (Third High King of the Noldor, died fighting Gothmog and other Balrogs.) 8.Finrod (King of Nargothrond, Oldest son of Finarfin, fought Sauron in Songs of Power, killed A great Wearwoolf with Beare Hands.) 7.Elu Thingol (High King of the Teleri, king of Doriath,tallest Elf in history, Had Ora so powerful that Fingolfin feared him.) 6.Finarfin (High King of the Noldor of Aman, Led the Noldor in War of Wrath.) 5.Finwë (First High-King of the Noldor, wasnt afraid to face Morgoth and Ungoliant alone in Formenos.) 4.Ingwë (High-King of the Vanyar & all Elves.) 3.Lúthien (Half-Maiar, put all Angband including Morgoth to Sleap, destroyed Saurons fortress.) 2.Fingolfin (Second High-King of the Noldor, gratest warrior of all Children of Ilúvatar, fought and woonded Morgoth 7 Times.) 1.Fëanor (Stayted by Tolkien to be the Gratest Elf Ever,creator of Sillmarills, it took a Host of Balrogs to kill him.)

[@theeldenbeast]

Bravo 👏

[@SH19922x]

Glorfindel after his reincarnation is the most powerful elf to ever live besides Feanor he lived until the end of the elves, Ecthelion is the next best then fingolfin

[@tefazDK]

Never heard of Ecthelion but holy damn would I like to see a live-action sequence of his roaring commands of his forces during the fall of Gondolin and his army's slaughter of orcs.

[@lordheklsmosh9490]

That would be cool!

[@adberg1067]

Imagine seeing balrogs riding dragons in life action during the fall of gondolin

[@jamesaron1967]

@@adberg1067 That happened in early versions of the Fall of Gondolin. Don't know how canonical it is.

[@Sentinel66able]

If I remember correctly, Ecthelion (Boromir's grandfather) was named after the Elf Ecthelion.

[@jakebaca264]

Well ecthelion sword was called the goblin cleaver for a reason hes a bad ass

[@arcusmc]

Holding your own against a Valar is nuts. He definitely deserves top spot. To see an anime of that match would be amazing.

[@MountainFisher]

A single male of the Valar is called a Vala, female a Valier. Fingolfin fought the Vala Morgoth. Sorry, been tutoring a bunch of teenagers during shutdown, kind of caught the teacher's bug.

[@JacobSmith-rh2sr]

No not an anime ew wtf.

[@BedSideGamer01]

Anime are you mad 😂

[@arcusmc]

@@JacobSmith-rh2sr they're literally in production of this type of show. Would you rather nothing? Catch up.

[@arcusmc]

@@BedSideGamer01 not at all. Just paying attention to current events. I'd rather something vs nothing.

[@daneelolivaw1976]

I agree with your selection, in particular for Fingolfin, I thought about him first. I would add a detail about Galadriel: it was said she was a pupil of Melian the maia who taught her a lot about magic, which combined with her own qualities, made her a quasi maia in Middle Earth

[@jezzaus2124]

First age was full of Elven badasses. Personal favourite is Ecthelion who took out Gothmog along with himself and of course Fingolfin. A few have been left out but I guess that is for the comments, though you knew that anyway 😄

[@coralcrown562]

Here's an odd one, but for me my favorite Elf (after Gil-Galad) is Cirdan the Shipwright. As one of the oldest (possibly the oldest) elves in middle earth, he has played a role in the major events of everything from the 1st age onward. This is an elf whose foresight is on par with Elrond, who fostered Gil-Galad into the leader he was, who passed the ring of fire to Gandalf, and who either guarded, or preserved countless Eldar lives while holding the gray havens for millenia. That's not even considering all the battles he took part in. I'm aware that his personal exploits are somewhat sparse, but the fact that he was instrumental in the survival of men and elves in every age can't be undersold. Maybe not one of the most powerful but definitely one of the greatest leaders of elfdom east of the sea. Idea for a video: Greatest Leaders of Middle earth (from all races)

[@ArabMongoose]

I'm with you! Cirdan is one of the first born of the first born! I am surprised how often his deeds are overlooked.

[@Enerdhil]

Cirdan is essential in maintaining the Grey Havens and the ships that are docked there. Otherwise, he doesn't need any power. We have no idea how powerful he can actually be if he is face-to-face with Morgoth, Sauron, or Balrogs, or even Nazguls.

[@zacharyradford5552]

Cirdan IS the oldest Elf in Middle Earth by the third and maybe the second age he’s a couple thousand years older then Galadriel. I’d also say he’s wiser than Galadriel as well the instant he seen Gandalf he knew he was a Maiar and gave his ring up to him. It took Galadriel thousands of years and a face to ring encounter with the ring of power to prove she was over her selfish ambitions and pride.

[@Enerdhil]

@@zacharyradford5552 I am pretty sure that Celebrimbor gave The Three Rings to Galadriel, Cirdan, and Gil-galad at about the same time. I have never heard or read of him being hesitant about giving a Ring to his cousins Galadriel. She must have gotten Nenya first since she lived the closest to him. As for Cirdan being wiser than Galadriel, that is impossible. Galadriel actually lived in Valinor in the Years of the Trees and was taught lore by Ainur. She was also mentored by Melian for hundreds of years.

[@kauetadaieski3131]

He has more than 10k years lol

[@agentchaos9332]

You really should've specified that while facing Gil-galad and Elendil sauron was wearing the one ring, and they still managed to hold their own. That makes it even more Impressive to me, and I wish the movies hadn't cut that part out.

[@kauetadaieski3131]

The ring does not increase Sauron's power in battle. It's a tool to corrupt and manipulate minds.

[@enigma9971]

Yeah they made Elendil and Gil-Galad look like wimps and made Isildur appear to just be lucky. No. Sauron was beaten by the previous two and THEN Isildur cuts off the ring. That's what happened.

[@enigma9971]

@@kauetadaieski3131 it increases and amplifies his power in a general way as well

[@davidkosiba624]

@@enigma9971 Nope , Sauron was still alive after he killed Elendil and Gil-Galad , now you are the one who is trying to make Sauron look weaker lmao , he was very weak at that point but he was alive therefore he defeated them and not they defeated him

[@fai-pe7oq]

@@davidkosiba624 Tolkien states Sauron was already beaten when Isildur took the ring. Gil-Galad and Elendil died fighting him but took him down as well. And this def doesn’t put Sauron down, he’s fighting two of the most powerful members of their respective races.

[@rangerofthenorth1970]

My favorite elf is and always will be Fingolfin and I must say that his sword is one if the coolest weapons I have ever heard off, always loved Galadriel, Elrond...all of them, but most of all I my favorite is The Broken Sword channel, love you guys you and your content so much

[@jetoner1]

I agree. I love Fingolfin.

[@thesixstistari5604]

Fingolfin is my favorite aswell, and Ringil is easily the most amazing sword ever forged I really love Felagund aswell tho

[@ramsayburch6738]

@@thesixstistari5604 Finrod Felagund forever!

[@gosiawolinska7582]

I love fingolfin too he has such a cool character

[@javiervalverde628]

Although I agree with all your picks I would also have included Turgon. A High-King of the Noldor, original wielder of Glamdring and founder of Gondolin, the last of the Noldor kingdoms to fall to Morgoth.

[@jetoner1]

Yes

[@kauetadaieski3131]

He was also the tallest of all the children of Eru save Thingol. Being one of the Noldor he was probably also of formidable physical strength.

[@geraldburke7783]

And Turgons sword was found and served Gandalf in protection of the fellowship and ring bearer...Gandalf killed a Balrog with Turgons sword, died, and returned to life changed fundamentally in everyway and thing, save one...he return as Gandalf the White and he still carried Turgons sword to continue to fight to finish the mission he was given. It was always my hope he carried the sword with him when he, along with elves and ring bearers carried Turgons sword to return it to that High King of Gondolin waiting in the West.....

[@LindyLime]

Turgon is super underrated imo.

[@carlomagno7092]

Totally, King Turgon was a beast

[@TheMasonK]

I’d love to see a cinema portrayal of Fingolfin vs Morgoth someday. It would be one of the most epic fight scenes in the history of cinema. Morgoth slowly coming out of Angband dragging his mace behind him. Then a cutaway to Fingolfin pulling his sword out of the scabbard. At the end of it after Fingolfin stabs his leg Morgoth backs off and just proceeds to scream in agony but more in anger and then just proceeds to pulverize Fingolfin into pieces.

[@jacobhoover1654]

I can't believe LOTR copied so much from Dark Souls

[@TheMasonK]

@@jacobhoover1654 lol

[@nordicblood8470]

@@jacobhoover1654 I know.. right just like how literally Demon Souls was inspired by Tolkiens Lore.

[@MegaMesozoic]

Morgoth never had the chance to pulverize Fingolfin - Thorondor, Lord of Eagles, snatched his body while managing to claw Morgoth's face and took him into the mountains. There his people raised a cairn in his memory.

[@TheMasonK]

@@MegaMesozoic right. I can just imagine Morgoth just smashes him a few times before then lol.

[@EM-tx7qm]

Feanor was the greatest Elf to ever live, there is no debate. “For Fëanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind: in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and subtlety alike: of all the Children of Ilúvatar, and a bright flame was in him."

[@thesixstistari5604]

But the bright flame that was in him slowly devoured him, corrupting his heart, blinding his choices and leading him to cause war, dead, and destruction in a measure that was never seen before Nonetheless, he is the most POWERFUL, even tho I think Fingolfin was a better Elv, for all the good he did in life, and of course, my personal favorite, not the most powerful fighter, but a wise and honorful elv: Finrod Felagund

[@istari0]

That depends on what you mean by greatest. He had the greatest talent and skill of any elf but he also had enormous flaws that led to enormous death and destruction. By the time of the War of Wrath, there were few Noldor left in Beleriand. I think that should be factored in.

[@Enerdhil]

I think so too, but the guys said "in Middle Earth." Feanor was mostly a failure in Middle Earth, the short time he lived there.

[@Enerdhil]

@@istari0 It took a truly great curse to take down a truly great elf.

[@jakealter5504]

@@thesixstistari5604 Fingolfin was also said to be the strongest combatively

[@SuperPAC130]

Gothmog: My leige, we have won the battle. Our enemies lay dead, the survivors scattering leaderless. Morgoth: EZ lol *Fingolfin enters chat* Morgoth: Eh, why do I hear boss music? 0_0

[@cirthador1453]

Ecthelion is the best. Also Gondolin is so cool!

[@Thegreywanderer42]

Well given your criteria I can’t argue at all with your choices but an honorable mention would be Beleg stronghow perhaps

[@BeyondYore]

Beleg would definitely be among the bravest and most faithful but I do not think that he can match up to the others in this list

[@lucasportoalegredealmeidad1588]

@@BeyondYore well, I think he is powerful in other kinds of way. His skils is more associated with healing and “natural” habilities, but he is very impressive. I think it is fair includes his name in a list with the most powerful elves.

[@lucasportoalegredealmeidad1588]

Totally agree!

[@aaronives6990]

Beleg is one of my absolute favourite elves of the first age, however being a Sindar I just don't think he can quite reach the level of the elves on this list who have seen the light of the two tree's. But I do think he is more powerful than Elrond and Gil Galad.

[@kauetadaieski3131]

He is very powerful.

[@Thurgosh_OG]

I'd rate Eärendil as one of the most powerful, who with the aide of a Silmaril, Slew Ancalagon the Black, the biggest Dragon of Middle Earth, after fighting all night to hold back the host of dragons.

[@mattmccann1850]

That's a great pick tbh

[@kauetadaieski3131]

The mightiest of WINGED dragons.

[@Sirholyphoenix]

While Earendil is half Elf and chose to be immortal for his wife’s sake, he is often counted among the race of Men.

[@yxx_chris_xxy]

Eärendil is also Hamlet's dad (aka Ēarendel or Aurvandil).

[@jetoner1]

Very well done! Fingolfin is easily my favorite too!

[@jetoner1]

If I had to choose 2 that were left off this list it would be Finrod and Luthien. Finrod did go against Sauron when captured and saved Beren’s life. Luthien, because she and Beren “wrought the greatest deed that has been dared by elves and men.” by getting a silmaril from Morgoth’s iron crown among other accomplishments.

[@jetoner1]

Oh and I do love Turgon too.

[@dlevi67]

@@jetoner1 One more vote for Finrod Felagund. It's a shame that Tolkien never finalised the Lay of Leithian (and in general the story of Beren and Lúthien). I do understand not including Lúthien, though, as technically she was half elven and decided to go with the Fate of Men - though quite why a half-elf / half-maia should be allowed to do so remains a bit of a mystery. (BTW - Elrond is technically 9/16 elven!)

[@jetoner1]

Yes, but she is still half Eleven 🥰 Though her fate is sundered from that of the Elves, she still lived as one for many many years.

[@dlevi67]

@@jetoner1 Half eleven; that would make her a five-and-a-half?

[@marimarzep4050]

Feel like… Lúthien and Finrod Felagund should’ve been here as well as Ëarendil and maybe Maedhros as an mention, the dude went through a lot and just refused to die and would’ve won the whole thing if it hadn’t been for the Easternlings

[@josephbenson4413]

I replied above and kinda hummed and hawed about Earendil. While I argue that "power" really is about affecting change - and he certainly did that - I'm not sure how often/consistently he did that. Golem affected great change, but he wasn't powerful. He basically did one thing. (Or do we chalk that entirely up to The Ring itself?). Thoughts?

[@noahklein2928]

Last 2 I would include are Elwe or Elu Thingol and Celebrimbor.

[@jeromyframe1930]

Can’t argue with your list and I completely agree with Finglofin as the Modt powerful elf. Only one I hoped would be that you missed was Finrod Felagund. Great warrior, leader who worked with and forged great alliances of elves, men and dwarves.

[@ljss6805]

I CAN ARGUE WITH IT! Literally the most obvious choice isn't on here: LUTHIEN. Why? Probably because she's female and thus likely to be overlooked, even though she is vastly more powerful than any of the elves here mentioned.

[@elizabethanne8729]

Yes! I’ve been waiting for this one to come back

[@12bigredd]

Feanor.... start and end of the topic. greatest of mind and body

[@kevinmartinez3500]

Finally I have been waiting for this video!! This channel really helped me get into Lord of the Rings and I am really thankful for it!

[@xjeffthechangex]

Lúthien deserves a place in this List for singing Morgoth into sleep.

[@adberg1067]

Galadriel also was learned a lot of from melian the maiar in Doriath this also explains why she is so powerfull

[@Enerdhil]

Yes. There is definitely power in wisdom.

[@ljss6805]

In my opinion, Galadriel is great and all, but Luthein is the real baddy.

[@jakemetzgar]

loving all of the artwork thats displayed in these videos! the artists' depictions of the characters and landscapes are very interesting and beautifully constructed

[@craiggoodrich2452]

I love this episode and I can’t argue with any of the elves mentioned but my personal favorite is Beleg. I know he is not one of the great elves but he was a valiant and faithful friend of one of my favorite of the Edain, Turin.

[@mathieuverreault4784]

Oh well, Maedhros is the greatest of all. He is the only one who really tries to escape his Father's Oath. Carrying his cloak of despair and sadness over thousand of years is the graetest of Elves trials.

[@MegaMesozoic]

Isn't that Maglor?

[@annafdd]

@@MegaMesozoic him too. Still going around on the shoreline singing in pain and regret. To this day!

[@abdurrachmansatrio5372]

I think you missed Rog, the leader of the House of the Hammer of Wrath in Gondolin. He lead his house against Orcs and Balrogs during the fall of Gondolin, and even though he died during this process, but he and his house managed to kill multiple Balrogs.

[@maglor2414]

Damn, Turgon got some of the most OP elves on his side

[@AndrewCarlisle11B]

Really enjoying these videos, keep up the great work!

[@TheBrokenSword]

Thank you 😊

[@dougisballin1729]

Love the passages about Ecthelion in the Fall of Gondolin. So insanely epic.

[@josephbenson4413]

I know... he killed a balrog with a modified Scottish punch.

[@lordheklsmosh9490]

The video I've been waiting for!

[@TheBrokenSword]

:D

[@bwmertz]

Full video on Lady Galadriel please! She is one of the most interesting and powerful characters in LoTR and I'd love to see a deep dive on her history. Love all of your content 🎵🎶

[@ClarusPolaris]

I can’t wait for this film you’re doing!!

[@codobaas6655]

Fantastic video. Please make a part 2 :)

[@TheBrokenSword]

Thanks! Yeah we might! :D

[@Keijspermeister]

you guys are growing so fast!

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

World needs Tolkien's words & wisdom.

[@raymondmollica2498]

Great video. 100% Fingolfin. His tragic duel with Morgoth is my favorite single story in the legendarium. Add: Beleg, friend of Turin

[@mattamick1163]

Strong list, agree w Fingolfin, was great to see mighty ecthellion of the fountain and glorfindol not forgotten ! Great job

[@TheDannyDeez]

Man Ecthelion's feats during the fall of gondolin are definitely badass

[@makitauknl]

I absolutely love Fingolfin as number 1. But keeping out Luthien on this list would have made professor Tolkien turning in his long sleep :)) And what about Finrod Felagund, Nom the wisest and most beautiful elf of all? Maedhros with only his left hand would have made Lord Elrond look like a child holding an icecream, well Elrond was his adoptive child for a short while. Cirdan, Beleg, Aerendil are also elfs worth mentioning too.

[@makitauknl]

As if not for the oath Of Feanor i think Maedhros would have become a valiant high king of the Noldor in Beleriand. But the oath that no one should take drove him on to his sad fate...Listen to the song Blood Tears of Blind Guardian, a beautiful song to understand Maedhros sad struggle

[@H.G.Wells-ishWells-ish]

I'd add Elwe to that list as well. So powerful, especially with Melian's Girdle, that no creature of Melkor would tread into Doriath--- that is until Carcharoth with a Silmaril in his belly. And I love adding Cirdan. Before watching the video, he was second on my list.

[@erikavalentina4940]

I would like to add : Luthien, she confronted Morgoth with a DANCE and managed to got out from Angband alive. Finrod, he bare handedly killed Sauron’s werewolf trying to save Beren. Beleg Cuthalion, great archers in Doriath. As for the 3rd age, I would like to add Thranduil. He can make his kingdom survived in the Mirkwood without any help from the Elven Rings. So I believe he is strong as a warrior and also in enchantment (as stated in Hobbits)

[@ramsayburch6738]

Good additions to the list, but it begs the question: Does Legolas, son of Thranduil, make this list? Great points regarding Luthien, Finrod (my absolute favorite elf), and Thranduil. These would also be my additions to the list

[@erikavalentina4940]

@@ramsayburch6738 Unfortunately, if based on the books Legolas is pretty decent for an elf. He isn’t exactly as great as depicted in LOTR movie trilogy since Tolkien really underdeveloped his character. It was supposed to be Glorfindel to go with the fellowship but then Tolkien decide to change it. But,,, I do believe he has a great skill of combat too, since he is after all Thranduil’s son. Legolas is clearly belong to a list of great character. His great achievement is his friendship with Gimli, the dwarf than even the Valar let Gimli went to Valinor with him in the end. So yes, Legolas might not be the strongest elf in middle earth, but he is clearly one of the greatest. PS : Legolas is also my favorite character in third age. Coz he is so innocent and quite clumsy in the book. Doesn’t really feel like he is other worldly creature like any other elves 😄

[@ljss6805]

Heck yeah, LUTHIEN!

[@RodrigoSantos-ur8ei]

Nice criteria and video. I would like a video with the most powerful of the Edain/Mens.

[@user-sd7ri9fy4i]

Nice work dude thanks

[@kauetadaieski3131]

The most powerful of all Children of Eru is Fëanor. It has been stated 300 times by 5 different books. There is no debate in that topic.

[@mr.simonphoenix7181]

"For Fëanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind: in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and subtlety alike: of all the Children of Ilúvatar, and a bright flame was in him." - I always wonder why people debate this, like its made VERY clear. Additionally his spirit is so strong it burns through his body upon his death. Again something that very clearly sets him apart from his peers.

[@Arcad1010]

@@mr.simonphoenix7181 exactly! 😂 i

[@johanlassen6448]

@@mr.simonphoenix7181 Feanor was 100% the most powerful Elf period. Not the greatest warrior though.

[@mr.simonphoenix7181]

@@johanlassen6448 He was the greatest in all aspects of body & mind yet was not the greatest warrior? 😂 Come on now…

[@johanlassen6448]

@@mr.simonphoenix7181 Tolkien outright states that Fingolfin was the strongest and most valiant (the latter especially being used to denote combat prowess in Tolkiens world), so no Feanor was not the greatest warrior.

[@theurzamachine]

If you do an equivalent video on the most powerful Men in Middle Earth, make sure you give Grima Wormtongue a shoutout because he too, took down a Maia.

[@joshuacarney4936]

Who did grima take out then

[@chriswaters2327]

@@joshuacarney4936 Sarumon

[@Enerdhil]

The dude stabbed Saruman in the back! 😂😆🤣😄 What kind of power does that take?

[@joshuacarney4936]

@@chriswaters2327 how did he defeat him then

[@chriswaters2327]

@@joshuacarney4936 I think Gandalf had already greatly diminished his power, and Grima had the element of surprise.

[@jwentup8704]

These guys are sleeping on Glorfindel. Gandalf even stated while they are in Valinor shortly after Glorfindel was reimbodied that he saw Glorfindel as on par with the Maiars. His resume is so damn cool that he killed a Balrog in single combat and despite dying, he’s the only one in the elven race to be reincarnated at a short time. That says a lot as Tolkien himself was straight religious. He had both great extent of power in the seen and unseen world as the reason why the Nazgul, Sauron’s greatest chiefs feared him. In the book, “The Fellowship of the Rings” as Glorfindel was searching for Frodo he came face to face with 5 Nazgul and instead of confronting him they fled. Remember that it took only 4 of the Nazguls to chase Gandalf himself. Even the Witch King of Angmar himself fled mid-laugh when Glorfindel arrived with the hosts of Rivendell. His help with the battle of the Last Alliance secured the Elves and Men’s Victory. Also take note that his addition to the FOTR alliance alone could cause distortion to the secrecy of the fellowship. That’s why Glorfindel is my first, second is Fingolfin and third is Gil-Galad

[@peterbellini6102]

110% with you brother

[@RushAss]

I think Turgon should have also been included. That said, this was an excellent list and fantastic video. Keep 'em coming! EDIT: And yes, I concur with Fingolfin being at the top of the list.

[@adamtheninjasmith2985]

Legolas should be a mention. He repaired relations between the elves and dwarves after all. Knowing anything about the stubbornness of either one would tell you that was quite a feat lol

[@JPCPSeto]

I'm glad you're joking

[@jonathankieranwriter]

For those wondering about Luthien’s inclusion, she was a unique creature, a hybrid unlike any other. But obviously a being of tremendous innate power as evidenced by the story. More to the point, I always wondered why Morgoth had such great fear of her mother, Melian. Though Tolkien left no question as to the immense power of Melian, she was a Maiar spirit, after all. How afraid of her could Morgoth, mightiest of the Valar, have been? Yet, for Tolkien, power was often fluid and nuanced, depending upon the beings in question. He was adamant that, in some ways, the High Elves (like Feanor and Galadriel and Fingolfin, etc.) as Firstborn of Illuvatar, possessed some Arts and Powers that even the gods (Valar and Maiar) could not equal or duplicate. That attests to Tolkien’s respect for the unique qualities native to some of those entities Illuvatar called-forth in His own, secret mind, according to his plan. He even said that some of the Maiar (not all) “well nigh approached the Valar in power.” Sauron must surely be included in this group, and Melian as well. Thus, while no created being in existence was more powerful (all-around) than Morgoth, Manwe, Varda, etc., a few of the Maia could achieve unique feats to equal them in certain cases, and even a few of the truly High Elves (Feanor, Galadriel, Fingolfin, Finrod, etc.) also possessed individual Arts that could, in unique instances, equal or best even the gods. Fascinating interplay of characteristics that reveals Tolkien’s respect for the master-designs of his Illuvatar figure in terms of the wholistic purpose and plan for Creation. For my money, Tolkien asserted point-blank on two or three occasions that Feanor and Galadriel were equals in power and Arts among all the High Elves, though their endowments were different, i.e. their specific talents differed in style but not in potency. That settles it for me. And Galadriel was the last to survive, triumphant over all Evil that haunted Middle Earth, due to her greater wisdom (as Tolkien also emphasized) so I’d rank her first among a few equals in “Elvedom”.

[@ecthelionofthefountain8267]

I'm so glad you mentioned Ecthelion!

[@agent_orange925]

I think Thranduil should be on the list. He's not as powerful as those on the list but he managed to withstand all of Saurons attacks. He also fought in the battle of last alliance with his father Oropher. I think he deserves some respect too.

[@theperfectshot1110]

of course he deserves and receives the respect but unforunately he is not as powerful as the ones on the list.

[@dolam]

Have you read The Silmarrillion? By comparison he is a lightweight.

[@thranduilelvenkind9218]

I agree.

[@dolam]

@@thranduilelvenkind9218 Agree with who?

[@theperfectshot1110]

@@dolam agree with me, with us

[@WilhelmDrake]

I would like to think that Glorfindel, after his return and having been granted powers rivalling those of a maia, could give Galadriel a run for her money.

[@ravencloud7]

goes to show how powerful galadriel is 0.0

[@The_Bashar]

Not according to Eru Tolkien!

[@yongo1304]

Galadriel is the 2nd strongest noldo after Feanor.

[@The_Bashar]

@@yongo1304 The second most powerful of the Eldar, period!

[@yongo1304]

@@The_Bashar well, you have luthien and some people count the King of the vanyar as being the strongest

[@ducatirottie]

Have to agree with you on Fingolfin. Anyone who brings the SMOKE to Morgoths front door sure has my vote!😒

[@buntun3670]

Ecthelion is quite underrated and most overshadow him with Glorfindel(yet another favorite)

[@user-td9hp6li5h]

Agree with Fingolfin as #1. As many have said - Luthien is missing (although she's half Maia, I suppose), and Earendil who slew Ancalagon the Black. Also Finrod Felagund, who slew a werewolf with his bare hands and teeth whilst a prisoner in order to protect Beren, though it cost him his life. And whilst I don't want to put Galadriel down...technically, it was the White Council and not just Galadriel that drove Sauron from Dol Guldur. The films highlight only Galadriel's role, but in the books it was the whole White Council.

[@horizen5460]

Amazing video . I didn’t know that Ecthelion killed three balrogs I love your videos Well done keep it up 👍 !!

[@ravencloud7]

4 if you include gothmog

[@horizen5460]

@@ravencloud7 I thought that Glorfindel was the only Elf who killed a balrog I believe now that Ecthelion must be one of the top 3 or 5 most strongest Elves of middle earth

[@TheMarcHicks]

No Luthien? She went toe to toe with Sauron & even stood up to Melkor....surely that deserves an honourable mention, at least?

[@mypeeps1965]

I found myself not only agreeing to the order but the reasons behind it. This is a first for me and this channel.

[@robsmith1975]

Such a great video!

[@istari0]

I too like Fingolfin at #1 although there is a big question about whether to treat Lúthien as an elf or not because of her half maia lineage. If she's considered an elf then she definitely should be on the list and either #1 or #2 IMHO. I think good additions would be Turgon, Ecthelion, and Celebrimbor.

[@BeautifulShaving]

Can you please do a history of Legolas? I've always wanted to know more about him, besides the fact that he is an Elven Warrior. Who was he, what family did he come from & where/when was he born? Was he ever known by any other names? What is he best known for? Etc...so many questions & not enough time to ask them all. Thanks for all the LoTR/Hobbit/Middle Earth videos, the history and other info are so interesting.

[@cuddles31]

What? Legolas is not mysterious at all. He's a Sindarin elf, son of Thranduil who's the king of the Woodland realm (Mirkwood)

[@dolam]

There is not much back history on Legolas. Everything to know about him is in TLOtR, as far as I know.

[@edmiller6124]

good list, totally agree on Fingolfin

[@mistag3860]

We cant forget the depth and strength of JRRT's vision and genius, so much glorious and detailed history, what a lifes work! that so many love the lore, the canon, the languages, absolute genius. And I still wish that I could be a tiny bit elvish, dont you? and have the long life and health, skills and magic - how he captures the grim mortality of humans, recognising that which is so bittersweet, I remember that the pyramids were built over decades to ease the powerful into immortality, religion promises eternal life, Valhalla is a place, JRRT devoted his life to LOTR, I give thanks, and rip great man.

[@johnnyedelhoff5866]

Will you do the same kind of videos with Dwarves and Men?

[@Huskytabby]

What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?

[@MrYouarethecancer]

Boromir doesn’t die, the ring goes to Minas Tirith and Sauron eventually wins surely.

[@georgimihalkov9678]

If we're looking at pure potential, nobody can beat Feanor: "Fëanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind; countenance, understanding, skill, and subtlety, of all the Children of Ilúvatar. However, in his personality came flaws, foremost among them selfishness and pride, and at a time these would bring anguish and turmoil to his people."

[@OrchidAndromeda]

Really well done👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤❤

[@chayschmit4265]

Glorfindel and Gil-galad 100%. I do like galadriel and she is powerful. But the false representation of her in rings of power ruined my perspective on her. Though Fingolfin is also incredibly powerful

[@user-jv3mm6vt6e]

Maedhros surely deserves an honorable mention.)

[@Enerdhil]

Yes Honorable Mention for most likable kinslayer.

[@kristinal-ghoul2680]

Good list--I would have ranked Fingolfin first too! How about adding Thingol or maybe his captain Beleg Strongbow?

[@kauetadaieski3131]

Feanor is the mightiest of all, stated multiple times.

[@uphillUtube]

Quite correct and for the right reasons.

[@mathewhudson7649]

Fingolfin is indeed one of the most powerful elves (physically) imo but he isn't and ordinary elf, he is a light elf, not just AN ELF most of these on this list are the ones whom have been in the light of Valinor. Tolkien made it clear that the light elves are a class apart. Just saying 😎

[@dabslug]

Ahhhh is this the reason why some elf name sounds more civilian? And some sounds more royalty? Lol

[@Achilliez]

Feanor was made mightiest in all parts of body and mind; countenance, understanding, skill and subtlety. And Melkor was genuinely scared of the fire (soul) that burned inside of Feanor. A 1v1 of those two would have been insane. Or better still Fingolfin and Feanor vs Melkor 👍🏻💪🏼💪🏼

[@peterjobovic3406]

I miss Finrod Felagund and Luthien. I think all beings in Middle Earth have two components, strength and power. Strength is given by physical strength and dexterity in combat, and here elves and some people, such as Turin, overcome elves. Power is given by Elf, Maiar and Valar. When Finrod Felagund fought the songs of Sauron, they fought together with power. And when Sauron was defeated by the dog Huon, he was defeated by force. So in terms of power, I think the most powerful Elf is Luthien, who was half-maia. Fingolfin was the strongest of the Elves. The blood of the Elves and Maia flowed in the blood of the people of Numenor, so unlike other people, they also had the power, for example, to heal. The strongest of the people, in my opinion, were Turin and his father Hurin, who fought to protect the elves' retreat against the Trolls and is described as the greatest human warrior.

[@maglor2414]

Fingolfin is strongest elf for sure. I think Feanor and Eol are close too, as they were described as mightiest. Luthien is most powerful because of her ainu heritage, but Feanor is close second, if not surpassing. He has invented palanthirs and silmarills. Silmarills are one of if not the most powerful and magical objects in Arda. Nothing cures wounds caused by them, the only way is to change body or destroy silmarills (but they are indestructible). Angmar mages used shattered pieces of palanthirs and learned magic like that.

[@ljss6805]

By sheer brutality, you're gonna have to push the list up higher to Tulkas. That guy has Morgoth burritos for breakfast.

[@Civtex]

Good list..agree with Fingolfin

[@jacquesaubin4454]

Excellent list

[@SageKronsell]

Its a bit tricky criteria to base powerlevels on. Yes Fingolfin probably was the most powerful "battle character" we know of from the elves... but he would never have been able to create the Silmarils and Feanor did hold out alone against almost the entire Angband host before saved by his sons for HOURS. Also what of someone like Ingwë, who having lived with the chief valar and being of the first generation of elves must have had a certain level of power despite never going into battle that we know of. So... I guess my critique would be that the criteria is a bit lacking in my opinion. As much as I love Fingolfin as well.

[@adberg1067]

Well Ingwe did get slain by morgoth in Formenos whithout any battle while Fingolfin actually wounded Morgoth

[@SageKronsell]

@@adberg1067 No that was Finwe. Ingwe is the high king of all elves and chief Vanyar. Finwe was Feanor, Fingolfin and Finarfins dad. Leaving that aside it is doubtful if there even was a fight at that point. He spoke to Melkor in the door and it is not mentioned that he was armed or armored in anyway. That said: whatever the case with him my quibble with this video is by using pure battle prowess as a measure of power levels. By the time of the duel Fingolfin was not a king living in the peace of Valinor, but a trained skilled and very experienced warrior having fought the war of the jewels for more than 450 years. Plus his mental state at the time have to considered. He was described as basically out of his mind on grief, and such people can do much that others can't even if it doesn't end well for them.

[@pivson1634]

@@SageKronsell Well technically, Ingwe lives in Aman, so not in Middle-Earth.

[@SageKronsell]

@@adberg1067 fair. But if you want to use that point, then he was one of the three ambassadors, so absolutely did live in Middle Earth before the great voyage.

[@Enerdhil]

@@adberg1067 That was Finwe. lololol

[@yingfuli]

The Hobbit by Peter Jackson is not a really good source when assessing the power of Galadriel. The banishment of the Necromancer (as Sauron was known at his Dol Goldur days) was not by Galadriel but by the White Council which besides Galadriel consisted of Saruman, Gandalf and Elrond. Galadriel herself never had the power to confront Sauron on her own in combat though she managed to conceal Lothlorien from his prying Eye.

[@dolam]

What makes you think she couldn’t hold her own against Sauron, or at least for awhile?

[@yingfuli]

@@dolam Because that was never her forte. Her strength lies in concealment, magic if you will. After all she did keep Lorien closed for him, even in sight. She never took up arms and followed Feanor not fight alongside him but because the promises of Middle-Earth. She was proud but had no particular liking for Feanor and hardly took part in the War for the Silmarils. Her pride kept her from returning to Valinor after Morgoth was beaten and she was one of the few Higher Elves that remained and lived through the times of Sauron. I think not even Gandalf could have withstood Sauron one on one, and for him also his main power was igniting a fire in those who would make the difference, like Bilbo, Thorin, Frodo, arguably Aragorn too.

[@dolam]

@@yingfuli That makes sense. Very good points, thank you.

[@calebbirkhimer5110]

Fingolfin is definitely my pick as well. But someone could easily justify many on this list. It all comes down to which character resonates most with you. A 1v1 vs Melkor, hard to top that in my opinion. I saw someone mentioned that Luthien should’ve been included, and I’d have to agree with that.

[@jamiegregg9211]

cool video Jake enjoyed it

[@TheBrokenSword]

Thanks Jamie!

[@coldsteel2546]

High King Turgon, it says the deeds he did in the Fall of Gondolin we're to many to count. Plus Glamdring was forged for Turgon. He was Idril's father, which would make him Earendils grandfather and Elrond and Elros' great grandfather.

[@uniontupapa]

Power was not only physical strenght and fighting skills. As a whole, taking into consideration everything "plus what Tolkien actually wrote" the list would he 1. Luthien 2. Feanor "described as the greatest of the Elves of Valinor 3. Galadriel Besides them I think it's a matter of personal opinion. Now if it's just physical power and combat skills, for me "personal opinion" the list would be "I am not including any of the vanyar for we don't have anytying on them during the war of the wrath, but I am sure many of them were great Warriors" 1. Fingolfin 2. Feanor 3. Finrod 4. Ecthelion 6. Glorfindel

[@kauetadaieski3131]

Actually the GREATEST of the Eldar was given to Luthien, while Feanor and Galadriel came second. In terms of overall power, Feanor is the most potent of all Eldar/Children of Eru: "For Fëanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind: in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and subtlety alike: of all the Children of Ilúvatar, and a bright flame was in him." “Aulë nameth Fëanor the greatest of the Eldar, and in potency that is true. But I say unto you that the children of Indis shall also be great, and the Tale of Arda more glorious because of their coming.” “The cause of her weariness she believed to be the bearing of Fëanor, great in mind and body beyond the measure of the Eldar.”

[@dolam]

I think this is a good list. I would also include Luthien and Finrod. I am sure there are a lot of other powerful Elves, like Celeborn or Cirdan, but there are not any instances you can point to that demonstrates their power.

[@Dickles_Pickles]

Took me over five tries before the video loaded in without the ad. Some of you may argue that I may as well have waited the five seconds, but I still remember as adless YT

[@ritvikpandey8806]

There's a pretty good case for putting ecthelion at the top.... There's a very real possibility that if he faced gothmog at full power he'd crush him. He had already killed 2 of his kind already! Killing balrogs left right and centre is just as impressive as wounding morgoth.

[@GH-zg2wu]

No way

[@OGKaz]

Fingolfin was The strongest, if not top 2 in imo ! ,1v1's Morgoth only to lose to Morgoth's massive size, ends up giving him a permanent limp, was even said people mistook him for the Valar Oromë when he rode to face Morgoth.

[@tomfrost6049]

I've read the silmarillion twice and yet still don't understand some of the characters chosen here... your number 1 pick I think sounds thoroughly deserving of that spot. The hardest part is that so many not the eleven were mad lads, deciding the powerhouses among them is tough. My choice, before I watched the video, was Elrond. So I'm glad to have seen him here.

[@ljss6805]

And not Luthien? Like, she literally is the only being who ever defeated both Sauron and Morgoth.

[@douglasblowe805]

I have to go along with you. I might change the order of a couple, but I have to agree with your choice of 1st. Fingolfin not only was the 2nd high king of the Noldor, but he fought basically a God 1-on-1 and put a hurtin' on him. He knew he was doomed but he think about it, if he could have done this to Morgoth, then Gothmog, or any of the great dragons would have gone down facing him. Admittedly he was furious when he fought Morgoth and his anger gave him strength. My mother taught me to read early- she had a Ba in Communications from UNC. I got in trouble in 1st grade for reading The Hobbit in free reading time and LoTR in 2nd grade. I actually had to read parts to the principal and teacher and explain what was happening before they would believe I could do so lol. (btw I later became a teacher myself and have 3 degrees lol). These books and the Silmarillion, which came out just as I started college and was a gift from my mother , have always been my favorite books. Most of the papers I wrote in school and my 1st college were on Middle Earth or Tolkien himself lol. I love your videos and find them refreshing.

[@yongo1304]

Feanor is first even though he was an asshole. Tolkien stated it a couple od times! Not only that, he fought for many days against the Balrogs that defeated Ungoliant, Ungoliant having defeated Melkor. So its debatable whether the joined 7 Balrogs are more powerful than Melkor. Melkor was also in a more weakened state when he fought Fingolfin than when Feanor died, as his power was being poured into his creations over the years (Fingolfin fought Melkor more than 450 years after Feanor died).

[@shadowofchaos8932]

Eol the dark elf, Celebrimbor and Turgon would be worthy of mention from deeds to effect Middle Earth. Turgon was a great king and did many amazing things outside of battle. Just three I could thing of adding.

[@lordheklsmosh9490]

Well Eol thought Aredhel (turgons sister) looked hot, got carried away and had a son who would be the greatest betrayer in LOTR history.

[@makitauknl]

even with his sword Anguirel in Eol's hand, Curufin would have made him look like a wimp :))

[@shadowofchaos8932]

@@makitauknl Eol's actions affected everything after the first age. Nobody has seen or made Galvorn steel since he created it. Worth mentioning the guy that brought down the elves in the FA.

[@makitauknl]

@@shadowofchaos8932 well Eol didn’t bring down the Noldor nor his son Meaglin did. It was the doom of Mandos that did it. Mandos clearly stated that the Noldor was doomed in their fight against Morgoth, in no way whatsoever could they win against a Vala. Eol or his son Meaglin were merely bricks in the wall for this end.

[@makitauknl]

Doom of Mandos: "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains. On the House of Fëanor the wrath of the Valar lieth from the West unto the uttermost East, and upon all that will follow them it shall be laid also. Their Oath shall drive them, and yet betray them, and ever snatch away the very treasures that they have sworn to pursue. To evil end shall all things turn that they begin well; and by treason of kin unto kin, and the fear of treason, shall this come to pass. The Dispossessed shall they be for ever. Ye have spilled the blood of your kindred unrighteously and have stained the land of Aman. For blood ye shall render blood, and beyond Aman ye shall dwell in Death's shadow. For though Eru appointed to you to die not in Eä, and no sickness may assail you, yet slain ye may be, and slain ye shall be: by weapon and by torment and by grief; and your houseless spirits shall come then to Mandos. There long shall ye abide and yearn for your bodies, and find little pity though all whom ye have slain should entreat for you. And those that endure in Middle-earth and come not to Mandos shall grow weary of the world as with a great burden, and shall wane, and become as shadows of regret before the younger race that cometh after. The Valar have spoken". Give chills everytime reading this :))

[@three3thou]

There are many characters in the Tolkien legenderium that I would have loved Tolkien to write more about but Glorfindel and Ecthelion both top that list... In fact I might even say I want to know all those Elf-Lords that led those mighty gondolin houses... Of which these two are a part of... Except for Meglin the traitor ofcourse :(

[@matthewmiller9485]

Considering Galdalf in Vailnor considered Glorfindel equal if not more powerful than even some Maiar, and Glorfindel, an elf, is just a mortal being (ageless, but still mortal), it goes to show how strong and powerful all the Eldar and especially the strongest of them all really were and are.

[@freaky2406]

Looking forward to hopefully see more of these elves in the new RoP