The Most Powerful Model Turbine? Swiwin 400 Test And Review

[@davidsoufer116]

“Monster” of a turbine …. Glad we got one for the F16 1:5.. thanks Jonathan 🙏🏻

[@thelightersideofrc]

Oh Yea! The monster is just that!!!! Crazy push!

[@kellyrohrbachsbvmhanger9912]

I think it should be called Godzilla 🤣

[@thelightersideofrc]

@kellyrohrbachsbvmhanger9912 haha! I like it!

[@daleyahnke7215]

That is Sick!!!!! The one liter test was awesome! Its thirsty!!! LOL Thanks for sharing!!!

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks for watching! Yea she burns through a TON of fuel at full throttle!

[@Axr24have]

Great vid Jon. Can’t wait to see it in a model.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks John.

[@GiesbertNijhuis]

Great test. What I always miss in these tests is the airspeed. It always is zero, while during flying there is high airspeed. Makes a big difference.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Very true but don't have the means to do test runs in an air speed tunnel ufortunately.

[@GiesbertNijhuis]

@@thelightersideofrc A real windtunnel can be a bit much yea. But I'm sure you can blast it with a prop or EDF. You'd be the first to do it! (? as far as I know)

[@DakarNick]

How much of a difference? I watched a video of a turbine engine tech doing testing on full-scale and he said the power difference is negligible between a static test and one at speed.

[@GiesbertNijhuis]

@@DakarNick Really? (link?) Let me rephrase: if there is a big difference in airspeed, in how quickly the air gets in, I would expect a large difference in thrust. But reality is the boss. I have not tested that. Interesting that someone did a real test and not measured a significant difference.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Hey man Overall good vibes and genuine personality on your channel and I love it, along with the planes of course LOL. Cheers man and keep doing what your doing! -Ché

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks so much!

[@michiganengineer8621]

I don't remember if you've done this or not but, it would be an interesting comparison in power/run-time numbers between diesel, kerosene and actual jet fuel (for those turbines that can use it anyway). Did I hear that max operating speed correctly, 300meters/sec? That's pushing supersonic there for a model engine. Looking forward to the bird you put that beast in!

[@thelightersideofrc]

Haven't done a comparison like that yet. Yea crazy the speed and altitude this can opperate at .

[@eljaibas16]

Warped Perception did a comparison between diesel, hydro diesel, and kerosene I believe. As well as thrust tests and consumption test, highly recommend watching their videos.

[@thelightersideofrc]

@@eljaibas16 yea I watched it. Not accurate. All the thrust ratings will be identical but fuel consumption between various fuels will differ slightly

[@vrosi1963]

Tyler Perry is the only one who can afford jet turbines this size

[@thelightersideofrc]

HAHA. Any many others!

[@happygilmore2100]

He has converted most of his jet engined models to EDF.

[@superskullmaster]

But he doesn’t use turbines, hasn’t for a while.

[@BassMatt1972]

1:10 this type of connector is a "locking" 3 pin XLR (male/female, you can get 5 pin etc, handy for signal/power)

[@thelightersideofrc]

🙌

[@victorrcjets7660]

The beast for a beast😊

[@thelightersideofrc]

Oh Yea!

[@jkepps]

Very very nice! I have a Kingtech 450 new in box. I'll have to see about doing an unboxing too.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Cool!

[@Speedlimitrc]

well done .. thanks for video

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks for watching!

[@JP-ij6gf]

Wow, can I have two please. Impressive stuff

[@thelightersideofrc]

Crazy hey!

[@gregtaylor6146]

For the record, the JETCAT P1000 puts out more than double the thrust of this little toy.

[@thelightersideofrc]

You bet! And the Swiwin 800 puts out less than the Jetcat 1000.

[@pavlosconstantinou9236]

for the record.. the JEtcat is a pro model.. .

[@DakarNick]

Wow, really?

[@barkster]

you have any details on your test stand?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Built by RCCUSTOM3DPRINTING.com

[@demantoid418]

😲 WOW

[@thelightersideofrc]

😎

[@wayneschenk5512]

Nice review

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@klausrohrbach6041]

The DEMON returns!

[@thelightersideofrc]

BOOM!

[@kopparsulfat]

two of those on a cri-cri would be fun

[@thelightersideofrc]

HAHA. Agreed! Two on anything would be fun!

[@jimtiller5239]

So, an RC aircraft with this engine could make a fairly high speed and with enough fuel could cover a long distance. The question I have is how do you control the flight path?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Keep it in view always or use UAV Software.

[@gregoryh4601]

Jonathan. Very impressive Motor and powerful. Jonathan does these Engines run different when in Aircraft? Would a small leaf blower added to the Front change the Performance of your Test? Act like in Jet getting Air Force into Engine?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Yes for sure run's different in the aircraft. More restrictions possibly in the fuel system, different airflow patterns.

[@RicardoRamos-p3v]

estaria bien registrar los decibeles al 80 y 100% de rpm gracias por la demo practica

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks for watching!

[@jonkje]

12A during startup.. lol Big numbers there as well!

[@thelightersideofrc]

Yea dual ignitors suck the power.

[@Portondown]

How much does it cost for the engine? How much fuel does it use? How much noise does it produce? What is the weight of the engine? How much thrust at normal running speed? Is it possible to reduce the high pitched scream these engines make?

[@number40Fan]

Answers to a couple of your questions were answered in the video.

[@kolbevilla]

A lot, a lot, a lot, a bit, a ton, no.

[@Koernell]

Wow, impressive test, impressive engine. Can you explain how you calculate the maximum flight time for a jet? Or do you always calculate with maximum consumption because of safety reasons? There's no telemetry for the tank capacity, is there?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks. If you are installing a suitable size engine for the aircraft, generally the first step is to set a timer of 5-6 min on your radio. Fly that time on the maiden and slowly adjust. So if your gear up starts the timer and you land when 6 min is up and you still have 1/4 a tank left. Bump it up to 7 min. Fly that for a few flights and see. Generally after the maiden you will fly more aggressive and use more fuel so adjust as needed. If you 10 flights in and your still landing with 1/3rd tank than but it up 30 seconds. Xicoy telemetry unit will give fuel consumption. Pretty much all other turbines can use the Vspeak unit which will give tank capacity and fuel consumption.

[@jayb2617]

did it get to to 88lbs of thrust?

[@thelightersideofrc]

No It won't unless your at sea level at 15 deg c.

[@scott_aero3915]

I'd be interested to see fuel consumption rates for say 33% and 66% done in the same way as I imagine most of these engines are not operating at full power all the time (altho these may be used in single flight target drones so they could be).

[@thelightersideofrc]

Exactly! Once they are at cruising speed and you back down on the throttle the fuel consumption goes way down.

[@MAFEEOSO]

wow, that reminds me of how I used fuel when I had my 57 chevy souped up and running

[@thelightersideofrc]

HAHA. No kidding hey! Not fuel efficient at all.

[@hubblehosting8862]

I know that you've build the F-14 XXL before. Do you believe that the Swiwin 400 can safely fit in the fuselage?

[@thelightersideofrc]

The 400 is not needed. Twin 300's would be way over powered but fun!

[@hubblehosting8862]

@@thelightersideofrc | Copy that. Thanks for the info!

[@charlesspringer4709]

Was there a decimal point hidden by that wire? If yes, how did you manage to keep it hidden through the whole test?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Yes there is a decimal point. It was a stationary camera.

[@charlesspringer4709]

@@thelightersideofrcAnd a very determined wire 😁

[@thelightersideofrc]

@charlesspringer4709 🤣🤣

[@P51]

I'm going to use two of these and make a homebuilt 40% 2-seat HondaJet. 18 gal/hr x 2 = 36 gal/hr or 250 lb/hr.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Sounds Fun!

[@Lightning546]

I wonder how fast an RC SR-71 would go with two of these and real afterburners in it.

[@thelightersideofrc]

😮😮😮😮💨

[@maegenyoungs2591]

So when is someone going to build a marine version? To replace the loss of the SMP5 from jetcat

[@thelightersideofrc]

Good Question!

[@Sluf7]

Probably bit over kill for the Habu then.....😮. What a BEAST 😊. What ever machine it goes in Full Throttle won,t used as much with thrust like that. That F-16 being pretty clean anyhoo will scoot along. Be well keep at it. 😊

[@thelightersideofrc]

HAHA. Weighs more than the Habu I would guess. A true rocket with wings!

[@e8guy316]

@@thelightersideofrcat that point it would just be a turbine with wings 😂😂😂

[@uuzd4s]

Unlike Full Scale Turbines where the support bearings are oiled using a Labyrinth seal design, R/C Turbines use an Open design that rely on the Oil mixed w/ the Kerosene to supply the needed Lubricants. You run out of fuel and you run out of Bearing Lube. At 10,000 RPM a bearing can overheat quickly without lubricant. I wouldn't recommend what you've done here on Any R/C Turbine, especially a New one.

[@thelightersideofrc]

What I have done here is exactly how they are designed to operate! Thank you for watching!

[@RangoliDesigns-jg8mw]

Total thrust ??? Of 400 Jet engine

[@thelightersideofrc]

One we ran the other day got 90.25 lbs output

[@terryperrott9913]

"" if "" there ever was a A-6 Intruder big enough that would be a monster of a Intruder, it would look great in the air.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Oh Yea!

[@jtuttle11]

Is your 'Fuel' mixed with Lubricant?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Yes. Most turbines use a %5 oil mixed into fuel.

[@joesutherland225]

Turboprops? Generator? Nat gas? Microgenerators is my thought maybe small property owners could setone up and produce theyre own power and sell into the grid to offset costs over time just a thought .

[@thelightersideofrc]

and thats how innovation and invention happens!

[@joesutherland225]

@@thelightersideofrc if I had the cash I'd try it .electrician so that side is covered but I know squat about the prime mover side of the unit

[@joesutherland225]

@@thelightersideofrc it would have to be natural gas due to availability to most homeowners basically the same as big powerplants do now but on a micro scale

[@KILLER_CUSTOM_RC]

Think the KT450 is the biggest available to purchase for general public.

[@jonkje]

Swiwin has an 800 though...

[@davewilshere]

JetCat have a 400, 500 and 550….

[@thelightersideofrc]

Lots of options.

[@donstor1]

Man i wish you would give the stats in imperial units. I have no idea about max speed or fuel consumption. I don’t get micro liters or any of that. Pounds, miles or knots please.

[@thelightersideofrc]

😂😂 Can all be easily converted with "GOOGLE!"

[@robertorlt]

HELO HOW CAN I ORDER ONE OR TWO ENGINES LIKE THAT ONE??

[@thelightersideofrc]

Send me an email or order off my website. Thelightersideofrc.com

[@ericmartin2470]

the life of this kind of engine is roughly 20 hours? i assume the engine can be serviced at 20 hours and put back into use. is this something the owner can do with an overhaul kit?

[@thelightersideofrc]

25hr. Bearings get changed and back in service. Done at factory or dealer.

[@jaimesarabia9830]

Hey man i hope you can answer this... Which is YOUR most expensive airplane and whats the price tag? people always post videos of so called $90,000 $100,000 worth airplanes being crashed. These are not scratch builds but purchased ARF. and im trying to "build" one but seems around $70,000 tops. thanks

[@thelightersideofrc]

The most expensive one to date was probably the F14 XXL. Comes in around 40k complete. The upcoming XXL F4 from carf will probably be 50K.

[@areprasetyo]

The price please

[@thelightersideofrc]

Feel free to visit my website, click on shop and check current price!

[@areprasetyo]

Thanks

[@BibekMandal-h6v]

Is it delivered in Nepal I want this jet engine.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Probably.

[@DanielLyon-xg7uh]

How do I buy 3

[@thelightersideofrc]

Send me an email. [e-mail]

[@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938]

Could probably run a small one person jet with two of these…

[@thelightersideofrc]

Yes for sure! They also make a SWIWIN 800 turbine!

[@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938]

I can see an affordable jet for two people built using 4 of these on the wings, 100 liter tank should allow at least 1,000 km and simple pressurization system…the four engines could power IFR and the most basic weather radar…less than 200k … way cheaper than the 2 mil. for an Eclipse 500 or Cirrius Vision Jet

[@kolbevilla]

@@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938the only issue is the service interval on these is 25 hours, and they are not built to be as reliable as an aviation grade engine

[@jefffff1007]

300 m/sec, 671 mph!🤔😳

[@thelightersideofrc]

CRAZY HEY!

[@Gavs_rc_hobbies]

No matter how many times i watch these test videos, it still blows my mind how fast these engines burn through 1L of fuel. 🤯

[@thelightersideofrc]

I know! Crazy Hey!

[@jrkc9218]

I’m ignorant. How much does that translate to horsepower or a comparable to a car? I know they aren’t or can’t be directly converted

[@thelightersideofrc]

Good questions. As you said, not directly translatable but with something like this it is a 400N engine which translates to 40kg of push which is 40 x 2.2 = 88lbs of push at sea level at 15C

[@chadshumaker4984]

Just wondering how much that beast cost? I'm guessing 6 to 7 thousand.

[@thelightersideofrc]

The Monster is currently listed on my site for $6566.00

[@okiedoak201]

These are still single compressor designs correct....

[@KCM25NJL]

"Maximum speed of 300m/s....which is fast" Yeah, 43 short of Supersonic lol

[@thelightersideofrc]

😉😊

[@kthan3427]

engine was not shutdown at empty fuel tank very short time, its so unusual ??

[@thelightersideofrc]

Sorry don't understand your question.

[@Wherestherum-e6v]

Can this power and ultra light airplane

[@thelightersideofrc]

Could.

[@adampool100]

Was just short of pushing 1000lbs that’s a lot of power

[@thelightersideofrc]

👹👹

[@jayb2617]

if it loses 14% at your level how much does it lose at 25,000 ft?

[@thelightersideofrc]

LOTS! Just like the full size.

[@s9523pink]

Gulp😮!😮😢❤

[@thelightersideofrc]

😂

[@Sumonkhandker]

Please please and please Sir what is the price of this jet engine

[@thelightersideofrc]

Look at my site.

[@Sumonkhandker]

Sir, the engine that is in the video

[@Mark-y5h5p]

How much are they .tia

[@MohammedIbrahim-bz8ys]

This engine how can fit it in the motorcycle

[@thelightersideofrc]

Haha. Could!

[@cersos]

If you're curious, 300 meters p/s = 671 mph

[@thelightersideofrc]

Phew! FAST!

[@themagicartroll8961]

Its 88lb thrust but why showing upto 500lb

[@thelightersideofrc]

Decimal place.

[@themagicartroll8961]

@@thelightersideofrc oh ok😂. And I wanna buy this for a university final project could you reduce the cost

[@themagicartroll8961]

@@thelightersideofrc I can show a Collab. That the jet engine came from you and kind of a sponsored Collab it will increase your viewership and popularity on both sides

[@Prideforall]

jet engine SW400pro price bangladesh

[@thelightersideofrc]

Check out my website

[@Kostya_bro]

Not most powerful, SWIWIN have jet engine for 80 kg of thrust.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Correct!

[@basantd-j4n]

Sw800pro review

[@winibaldcroux2000]

AMT Turbines have a 1590N thrust turbine in their line of engines. It's huge 😮

[@adamfrbs9259]

I'll be the first to admit I'm full 'tarded with money, but even I can't pull the trigger on one of these, so damn cool, but ridiculously expensive.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Very addicting!

[@adamfrbs9259]

@@thelightersideofrc 4 of them on an ultralight would be awesome lol.

[@beyond8981]

Max Speed = 330m/s = 670 MPH.... Wow...

[@thelightersideofrc]

Crazy hey! And operation at 30k ft!

[@seamuscashin2606]

a pw6 engine would not use much more ie 12 gallons per hr .t would take a hell of a plane to hold that much fuel and use this engine for 1hr

[@thelightersideofrc]

Oh yea! No kidding! Once your at cruise speed, altitude the throttle stick can be backed off.

[@janmb]

"The Most Powerful Model Turbine?" While 400N is a fairly large turbine as RC turbines go, it is less than half of the most powerful COTS turbine for RC currently.

[@thelightersideofrc]

I guess it's not!

[@warriordrum]

No expert here but it sure seems a lot can go wrong during the testing. Your standing inches away from an intensely precise machine run by jet fuel. I would be behind an inch of clear something.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Same type of thing when it's in our aircraft flying. We do have a save zone which is a 1/2 circle from beside to behind the turbine for 30 ft in all directions.

[@TalenHavens-ky5sc]

Wtf almost 8000 dollars how do you have that kind of money

[@thelightersideofrc]

What about the 20k jet it’s going in!?

[@TalenHavens-ky5sc]

That's more then a car dang

[@matthewspaccarelli5007]

Shouldn't a good review also include the cost of the product you are reviewing?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Not if the price is constantly changing. Then you can say well just say "At the time of making this video the price is...." Well if the retail price goes up then that causes issues as well. If you want to see the current price, click the link to the engine in the video description.

[@Prideforall]

jet engine SW400pro price Uss $.... ples

[@thelightersideofrc]

Listed on my website!

[@HDSME]

25 hr service life???? Then what?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Bearings get changed, Engine gets re balanced and it goes back into service for another 25 hours.

[@HDSME]

@@thelightersideofrc thank you

[@Ray88G]

You can get much better efficiency out of hydrogen electric .

[@thelightersideofrc]

Yes, These mini turbines are not efficient at all.

[@Turbojetkart]

my engine makes 3 times that..... and cost a lot less to build

[@thelightersideofrc]

Sweet! Never heard of your engines? I'm guessing you don't make them for RC Aviation?

[@Turbojetkart]

@thelightersideofrc It could be used in an RC craft..... but 300lbs of thrust dry..... with out the afterburner.... who knows..... it would be some RC project...... not heard of yours before , but we learn something new every day....

[@vazione5410]

But isn’t yours much heavier andy?

[@Turbojetkart]

@@vazione5410 could be made lighter, its first one...... am working with a compant to use them in small aircraft, as it will run for thousand of hours with out issue

[@rolfbiber3503]

I have seen 85 lb for a very short time but never 40 kg of thrust. Not very impressive

[@thelightersideofrc]

😱

[@philjac94]

Hardly the most powerful, advertise d as a 400N should see 88lbs not 75lbs/340N

[@thelightersideofrc]

Absolutely incorrect! Reason being. We are at 3300ft above sea level. At sea level at 15c you will get rated power. At 3300 ft significant reduction

[@philjac94]

@@thelightersideofrc Even if you said 3% per 1000 feet, the engine falls short of the stated power.

[@opieshomeshop]

We’re in America, drop the Celsius BS.

[@thelightersideofrc]

I'm in Canada! I use Celcius!

[@opieshomeshop]

@@thelightersideofrc Its LAAAAAAME!

[@thelightersideofrc]

@@opieshomeshop totally 👍

[@mauricegold9377]

You might be in America. America is not the world. You are statistically less than 4% of world population by number, but 500% or more by perceived entitlement.

[@wrenchg3954]

AARRRRRGGGG!!!!! ITS NOT AN ENGINE!!!!! ITS A TURBINE

[@alonsoparra4359]

A turbine is a type of engine

[@demondoggy1825]

It's not an engine, it's a 347 Chevy smallblock

[@edwinthomas618]

Its not a radio...its a transmitter😅

[@thelightersideofrc]

😂😂. Reminds me of it's not a build, it's an assembly......it's not an assembly it's a build....

[@malloyneil40]

Please! Please! Please! For the love of god, please stop saying that turbine engines loose 10/15 % power at 3000 ft. That is the most ignorant thing I have heard on KZbin in a long time. No turbine engines do not loose 10-15% power at 3000 ft. If that were even close to being true no airline would or even could use a turbine engine. High temperatures play a much greater impact on power output than altitude below 10,000 ft. Please do some homework on this subject before repetitively saying completely erroneous things in every single one of your videos. In reality the power change from sea level to 3000 ft it’s doubtful that you could detect it even with very expensive highly accurate instruments. So, please stop!

[@thelightersideofrc]

Bahaha! Ok. I’ll just ignore physics and density altitude! Thanks for watching!

[@terke1230]

@@thelightersideofrcIF, at sea level, you have RPM and EGT headroom at rated thrust, you have a de-rated engine. In that case @malloyneil40 is correct. You could use some of that headroom to get back up to rated thrust at the lower density altitude of your shop. If you not not have those de-rates, then a turbine is simply a naturally aspirated engine and thus looses thrust with loss of density altitude. @malloyneil40 probably needs to study his material a little more to understand what he is saying. Keep up the great work.

[@thelightersideofrc]

@@terke1230 Thanks!