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@thedanath3 күн бұрын
Iv played against Arabella, and unless your just constantly remove her from the game people are going to be taken out of the game very quickly. Also being in red there are so many haste enablers that you could have a board of low power creatures and just take everyone out in one swing of Arabella. At the very least she is B tier if not low A tier.
@paulb23993 күн бұрын
This is one of my best decks and I've hardly optimized it. It's low cost and hits every player on attack. It's so easy to get a lot of tiny creatures/tokens on the board VERY early and put some protection on Arabella. It's a high B for sure.
@CB-gx5pb3 күн бұрын
My sayin Arabella is one of those if you really balance it out you gon win fast af. Should be A trier.
@unknown6390Күн бұрын
Yeah I dont know why he thought it couldn't compete with the others. Maybe because he thought it wasnt as complex.
@kudaice3 күн бұрын
Trying to kill someone by card draw with bumbleflower feels like a joke as a point. WTF, she is either +1/+1 commander deck or a card draw, and she can do both extremely well.
@Atze20243 күн бұрын
Bro is so impressed by eminence he forgot to even mention the Ur-Dragon and Edgar Markov
@BaconBitZ20073 күн бұрын
Almost turned off the video with the arabella disrespect
@TZKGuy3 күн бұрын
I haven’t even built her and she’s AT LEAST B tier
@BaconBitZ20073 күн бұрын
@TZKGuy it's easily my strongest deck. Fast as hell if you build it right, and white offers plenty of protection
@AkaTrios3 күн бұрын
Baylen + Token Doublers + Hare Apparent is just so satisfying to pull, because you get to a point where you draw your entire Deck (especially if you have Skull Clamp) and get it to astronomical stats.
@fingallcross40892 күн бұрын
just built this deck its so much fun. its kumena but sooooo much better.
@AkaTrios2 күн бұрын
@@fingallcross4089 The best part is that you also get to run TPro and Heroic Intervention so even if you only get to kill one or two players, you almost always live to your next turn.
@LandoKalrizzian22Күн бұрын
I built my First deck. Loot, Exuberant Explorer is my commander. Let's explore baby!!
@pierrehelie5213 күн бұрын
giada? C tier? dayum! you've done her dirty :c I know it's personal/subjective but I just can't agree that one of the best mono white edh is that low XD
@fenvendead13913 күн бұрын
Please do not sleep on my boy Bello again
@Rockjay2883 күн бұрын
I love bello, but it's really slow and largely leaves you open on your turn. Super fun to play still.
@exiledark65733 күн бұрын
It’s weird how people think red and green is too slow. Or how 4 is a high cmc for a green deck. I don’t know what game everyone else is playing.
@fenvendead13913 күн бұрын
@@exiledark6573 Fr, I have that deck and out of the box it ramps like crazy. Don’t know how anyone can think it’s slow tbh (except CEDH) players.
@brentclark84533 күн бұрын
leylines, plus cascade in these colors not to mention all the busted enchantments there are in these colors. Ive seen some top tier bello decks he is kill on site commander for sure.
@imnotacat52992 күн бұрын
@@exiledark6573 No one thinks that. The problem with Bello is that he *revolves* around other cards that are +4 mana and that's inherently a less optimal strategy because your 99 will be too slow any time your commander isn't around. And as anyone who plays at higher levels knows how prominent cheap removal is, so it will be very common to get him removed if everyone knows the rest of your deck are cards that are more expensive than theirs. After all, something that costs 4 mana doesn't break even with 2 cards that each only cost 2 mana. One just removes your 4 drop and the other creates board presence, all for the same amount of mana as your 4 drop. Maybe in the long game, you might get the card advantage to help you, but most games at higher levels of play don't make it into the long game. It's the same problem Aminatou, Veil Piercer has. That doesn't make them unplayable, just significantly less powerful than commanders that don't revolve around +4 mana cards.
@evanprimeau38103 күн бұрын
It’s so funny to see all the casuals in these comments, I knew the moment I saw this video that there would be large gathering of players arguing that their consistent Turn 5-6 wins constitute an A or S tier Commander. Realistically, I don’t understand why Kinnan or Kenrith are even ON THIS LIST, because none of the other Commanders even belong in B tier if they’re on the list, besides maybe Storm and Baylan at B. No one should be playing Kinnan or Storm at a Casual Pod (Kenrith can be built casually, though), they’re cEDH decks. Also, what was the criteria for being ranked on this list? It seems like such a half assed concept, ranking tons of Commanders from different time periods against each other, what is the POINT?! If it was ranking recent Commanders, why is Kinnan and Kenrith here? If Kinnan and Kenrith are here to provide context on power, why is Nekusar here?! I must’ve missed something in the video somewhere, because it seems like the Commander choices were completely random hogwash…
@voodooogaming3 күн бұрын
One of my friends in my pod plays Kinnan and has a lot of Eldrazi even the banned Emrakul (dk how to spell it) in that deck and our pod is meant for casual play. F*ckin hate Kinnan and any Eldrazi
@crypticommand13152 күн бұрын
Commander choices seem to be based on the edhrec top commanders from the past week or month from a first glance.
@electromancer26453 күн бұрын
A fact you're forgetting with Giada... You said removal would destroy this deck and there would be no coming back from it. Dude, white has amazing graveyard recursion
@joshgomez87883 күн бұрын
The giada slander is insane in this video.
@SerGeralt2 күн бұрын
Idc I'd still build a Giada commander deck...also when will Emeria the Sky Ruin get reprinted its hella expensive where I'm from
@electromancer26452 күн бұрын
@@SerGeralt a lot of videos from the mtg community have been saying Zimone, Paradox Sculptor isn't a very good commander as well. I am about 75% done building her right now and this deck is already INSANE
@steveolie9853 күн бұрын
amanitou Is getting short changed here. Her decks can do some crazy stuff with the right build. and honestly Valgavoth is better in nekusar decks than he is.
@CB-gx5pb3 күн бұрын
There are enough enchantment tutors to make it compatible. 🤷🏻♂️
@AmbiguousGoop3 күн бұрын
I’m running Valgavoth in my Nekusar 99 lmao.
@haydenhickman45863 күн бұрын
Ms. Bumbleflower, Smothing Tithe and Shrieking Drake
@yoshibahena3 күн бұрын
Ur-Dragon my beloved 😂
@JP-go5tr3 күн бұрын
I pulled a raised foil Baylen from my one and only BLB collector booster pack...needless to say I have since put a lot of effort into building a deck around them.
@randomguy-yl2ml2 күн бұрын
arabella player here, count yo days
@fran8233 күн бұрын
I love Arabella! And my pod hates her 😂
@paulb23993 күн бұрын
Same
@EvilerOMEGA3 күн бұрын
27:02 I don't think it would work like that. Omniscence is an enchantment, not a creature, and the reminder text says that you can flip it face up if it's a creature. I don't think "if it's a creature" is talking about if it is a 2/2 creature as a result of manifesting dread.
@jordanbailey44913 күн бұрын
he means using zimones other effect, which when a land enters you can flip up a face down permanent. Evolving wilds, put omniscience face down, crack evolving wilds search forest, flip omniscience face up.
@eduardogalindo53643 күн бұрын
With my goblin deck, I take advantage of the commander ability, a mill hell out of my opponent with the author of the brood. And I got 2 red enchantments that's go whenever a creature were power, 2 or less attacked, that player take one damage for each attacking creature.
@TheDJconspiracyКүн бұрын
Mitch truly never fought against a true optimized Ms Bumbleflower. She is freaking mean. Got to think away from the group hug mentality and make her oppressive.
@wyattellick9777Күн бұрын
Arabella is honestly really good the problem is being able to use her … easily removed and unless your giving her evasion she’s easy to kill easily a B tier though when she hits she hits when she don’t she don’t
@abouc2 күн бұрын
Giada is an amazing Commander, especially if you focus on life gain synergy that creates tokens with Divine Visitation in play.
@bhaalgor843 күн бұрын
Last commander game i partook in had to be a fast one due to time restrictions (about to do a sealed event so had to finish it fast). I chose my Nekusar deck, and my 2 opponents played Valgavoth (version on here) and Yurlok. It was FAST and sooooo damn violent, probably the most violent i've ever partaken in, but also one of the funniest games i've played in a long time 😂 it's so liberating when everyone agrees on going totally ballistic, and it just shows how damn effective the commanders are.
@exiledark65733 күн бұрын
Why does everyone hate on Bello? I absolutely love my Bello deck. And Krenko should be higher, goblins have a good number of accessible wincons.
@fingallcross40892 күн бұрын
elf ball is mono green, making it celesnia is the best combo, golgari is second, gruul is the slowest. just being able to not need to swing is an advantage.
@master_rafiki2 күн бұрын
Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy is essentially the same card design as Loot, Exuberant Explorer but with blue and targeting mana dorks instead of landfall.
@NyahBoyOwO2 күн бұрын
Will play my Krenko that kills table by turn 4 via combat or turn 3 via combo…Goblins are strong. He always rating Krenko low makes me think he hasn’t faced a strong one yet.
@Nechros23 сағат бұрын
I feel like you've never played against a good Arabeela or Bello deck. Both are easily my strongest decks
@Gerardwtf3 күн бұрын
Lets make a tier list with a lot of disagreed comments in order to let the algorythm share it a lot. Hold my beer
@Sleephelp20242 күн бұрын
The hate on krenko is crazy, infinite goblins with haste im absurd
@kamronlewis20193 күн бұрын
Arabella has legit become one of my most fun decks to play if left untouched for too long on attack everyone’s getting hit for 60+🤣
@empoweredbychrist777Күн бұрын
Bro... giada slaps, there's heaps of white cards that help with board Wipes and there are angels that bring other angels back... definitely not D tier imo
@iLuxLucis2 күн бұрын
Deffo hasn't played against a proper Valgavoth deck... 9 games out of 10 you're not even swinging Val at people, you're just putting up a ton of pings with damage double and triplers. They're dying to burn most of the time.
@Michael-ft5bm3 күн бұрын
Jesus, jimmies were rustled in the comments section lol. I can’t wait to have to come back and edit this when my commanders are disrespected. Edit: YUP! Valgavoth was placed far too low. Nekusar was also placed in B tier. The quintessential “kill on sight” commander, the one known for making games not fun. And it’s a power rank of B. Just no lol. Valgavoth is a B. Nekusar is A at least, if not S. To be fair to every other commander in the list, some of these are casual bombs while others are competitive bombs, and they shouldn’t have been compared together.
@Tiyo-Gwee14 сағат бұрын
Skipped to the end.. Guys, this is his own tier list 😂😂😂 lets respect his own tier list even if we know he doesn’t know how to give a good tier list of commander..😅
@GunPro1a3 күн бұрын
Giada 😢
@cody985333 күн бұрын
Krenko you’re better off just using Patriar’s seal, umbral mantle, and thousand year elixir since they’re repeatable and umbral can easily make infinite goblins
@bdienes202 күн бұрын
Valgavoth is so much fun!!
@bumoftennis82903 күн бұрын
Derevi is pretty broken. Infinite combos or prison lock down varieties are both very powerful
@nathanielpercell52383 күн бұрын
Putting Baylen in B is crazy. S+
@lallux033 күн бұрын
Why Is Edgar Markov not considered in this list??? Is It a low level Commander?
@unknown6390Күн бұрын
Only recently released and not overwhelmingly popular commanders considered
@GoblinxChild2 күн бұрын
Giada in angel tribal absolutely stomps.
@Novcheck3 күн бұрын
Came to see Jodah, saw ma little man baylen and am fine
@deviousalemanni42353 күн бұрын
Giada in tier d is crazy talk. The deck tends to be so strong 😅
@Smithfamilyfitnessprogress3 күн бұрын
Leonardo is an A easy lowest could be a high B but I would put it in A because it wins with infinite mana turn 5
@AndTheWhale73 күн бұрын
Where did this list come from?
@bboytrippleM3 күн бұрын
I challenge you to play against my krenko deck. Use whatever you want. Ill show you C Tier...
@NyahBoyOwO2 күн бұрын
Agreed. Mine have won several games at cEDH tables with Kinnan, blue farm and RogSi on the other seats. This dude… Baylen is cEDH viable and ranking her low…his rankings are just….no.
@Tiyo-Gwee14 сағат бұрын
He tier krenko lower cause he hates it. hahaha
@AmbiguousGoop3 күн бұрын
Two of my commanders in Solid B tier. Yet they draw S tier salt at my LGS.
@spencerp61903 күн бұрын
Stella Lee the goat
@AttanasiodomКүн бұрын
Think u rlly undervalued bello wolverine and arabella
@CorRoh7773 күн бұрын
I think Lathril is a kill on sight level commander
@msgames68892 күн бұрын
Miss bumbleflower in D tier ??? Thems fighting words 😭
@Unrated133 күн бұрын
Where's my boy Master of Keys!?!?
@craicrushna76383 күн бұрын
ya, I use Eiska as my Angel Commander, well, her gate side anyway.
@MADpack2 күн бұрын
I can see that you never played with arabella 😂 if so scary kills you easy every time at turn 5
@AngryArgie2 күн бұрын
Ironman, Cpt. America, Wolverine... Sigh.....
@LunaMirage3 күн бұрын
I don't agree with you that Storm is an S tier commander. I don't see how it possibly stands up against zur and etc. Storm feels like a commander where you would typically win turn 5-8 if you weren't interrupted. I have an Estrid the mask deck and she's strong, but I'd reckon she's as strong as Strom Force of Nature is if not stronger..... (I do run Nexus of Fate and savor the moment in my estrid deck).
@nutellakinesis3 күн бұрын
I think A is a better fit. She’s S in concept, but is easily interacted with and stopped with basic removal. I know “dies to removal” is a joke at this point, but due to her play pattern if she is destroyed, you can lose all the work you did before combat, essentially wasting a turn
@GhostlyGhost3333 күн бұрын
Wow. He really hating on everybody, ain’t he?
@juanestebanmacias4713 күн бұрын
But my baby maker zinnia
@mainball3 күн бұрын
Aminatou in C tier? Nah she's too slow unfortunately. You have to go through quite a lot of hoops to relevant but i guess it also depends on the power level.
@kyaerOCE3 күн бұрын
What about Black Panther
@Smithfamilyfitnessprogress3 күн бұрын
Wining turn 4 and 5 Leonardo da Vinci
@wesjaguar3 күн бұрын
Powerful or popular?
@arimakishou523 күн бұрын
Lots of popular commander that are missing
@Astrolnauty3 күн бұрын
Im sorry but i hardcore disagree with alot of this list. Theres so much more to these commanders than just creating infinite loops. I think you really missed the mark on alot of these.
@frankdavis55002 күн бұрын
Krenko at C tier and No Vren what is wrong with you
@goergerakly14963 күн бұрын
My own top not in order: S - Lathril, Kinnan, Kenrith A - Giada, Krenko, Storm, Iron-Man, Baylen B - Ballon, Zimone, Arabella, Arcades, Nekusar, C - Bumbleflower, Wolverine, Capt. America, Valgavoth D - Bello, Marina
@filiptheelessar3 күн бұрын
Krenko in C tier...??? Wow... Just wow...
@felix-janvillmar60773 күн бұрын
What happened with najeela?
@simcha17802 күн бұрын
Bro giada is B-A you whack for this one
@Smithfamilyfitnessprogress3 күн бұрын
Leonardo da Vinci where is Leonardo da Vinci I even have it at a cEDH level
@knightshade8843 күн бұрын
How? List?
@austinmack57913 күн бұрын
Valgavoth is insane L
@BrashM3 күн бұрын
Too much complaining from this channel
@drewkosko89312 күн бұрын
This list is horrible. Why put Kinaan a Cedh commander on this list? Why not include all the Cedh commanders? Seems weird bro. Also the A-D is also very bad.
@xXSiDeWinDeRXxКүн бұрын
Cap /D ??? Omg i think u downt know what u do😂😂😂 Cap is easy A or S
@undeaddeer49203 күн бұрын
Where is atraxa??
@Idublovestep3 күн бұрын
You don't have much charisma at the table do you? it takes a certain type of person to win with bumbleflower you have to be political there are many elements to winning a game not just with the cards themselves thats where the poker skills come into play
@nutellakinesis3 күн бұрын
Most seasoned players aren’t going to fall for the Bumbleflower gimmick. No amount of enemy card draw is going to convince me to let her live when she starts adding 1+1 counters and flying to an entire board
@jakechristensen4016Күн бұрын
BELLO OP
@jpmonje19813 күн бұрын
sad Nekusar is B
@angryheathen34633 күн бұрын
I hate the Marvel BS
@xhamxsolox849Күн бұрын
Dude my Valgavoth deck destroys. I'll prove it. Play me. D tier my @ss.