The Most realistic Gliding Ever In Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024!

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AvAngel

AvAngel

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@antonioiozzi291
@antonioiozzi291 Ай бұрын
Real life glider pilot here. It is the most exciting way of flying but ... absolutely not relaxing! You are always in search of thermals and when you don't find them ... oh oh .... it is a very serious sport flying and the skill you accumulate flying a glider is second to none. In MSFS has come the king of school gliders, the ASK21. I have learn to fly on them, did my solo and SLP licence examination in one of them. Lovely and relatively easy to fly. The Stemme instead is very difficoult to fly even for a very experienced pilot. There are two on my RL airport (only about 40 avalaible in the whole world!). I have flown that of one of my flying instructor, more then 50 efficiency, spectacular aerodynamics but... won't land and that narrow and high undercarriage is good if you are in search of trouble. Perfect landing is a must if you want survive. Thanks AvAngel!
@StemmeUSA
@StemmeUSA Ай бұрын
It is complex for sure, and certainly more so than a typical glider. However once you get the hang of it, it is an absolute dream to fly!
@Sherlock245
@Sherlock245 Ай бұрын
Now in the game you don't need to worry about thermo
@Tuskin38
@Tuskin38 Ай бұрын
@@Sherlock245 The sim models thermals, so yeah you do.
@Sherlock245
@Sherlock245 Ай бұрын
@@Tuskin38 oh but you can turn it off.
@raymondgoubet
@raymondgoubet Ай бұрын
@@Sherlock245 Why would you want *no* thermals in a glider?
@StemmeUSA
@StemmeUSA Ай бұрын
We are incredibly excited for everyone to get to experience the S12-G! It's a remarkable aircraft, and truly the best of both worlds when it comes to powered flight and soaring. Great video AvAngel!
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Thank you! Great to see it in the sim!
@TabernadoDani
@TabernadoDani Ай бұрын
This might sound weird, but to me the thing that made me the happiest in this video is seeing actual farm fields/crops instead of just different colored ground... This already makes me love MSFS2024
@sk8guitardrums
@sk8guitardrums Ай бұрын
great review Rach, i am so glad Asobo / Microsoft also invited you to the pre launch event in Arizona. i do like gliders and so nice to see them come with MSFS 2024.
@kencoble3012
@kencoble3012 Ай бұрын
Real glider pilot soloing in 1994 glad to see 2024 sim taking this side of flying seriously at last ,Condor 2 big following in racing etc.Hope to see on-line events in microsoft. For me looking forward to what microsoft 2024 Asobo thank you for recognising gliding huge world and real flying, great content and video
@mark_delfino
@mark_delfino Ай бұрын
Solo'd in gliding at 16 then stopped but still enjoy soaring in sims. This news about gliding is key for me with 2024, also really positive to see gyros make an appearance, the existing flight model just didn't allow for them. Thanks for sharing😊
@gorillachinchilla1668
@gorillachinchilla1668 Ай бұрын
I can't think of another flightsim video that would feature the words "Where's my head? Who knows"! I love it XD. Thank you for another great video. Your enthusiasm is infectious!
@obi5402
@obi5402 Ай бұрын
Can't wait, got everything crossed that this runs smoothly on xbox.
@smax3117
@smax3117 Ай бұрын
People rave about the fabulous airliners with all their computer systems and automation BUT....if you really want to fly and learn how to control an aircraft then the glider is the way! It is you and the elements, your skill counts for everything and there is little more rewarding that a good landing after a successful flight. The gliders are not bad in FS2020 but 2024 looks incredible,,,,,,
@Ricardo.Sigwalt
@Ricardo.Sigwalt Ай бұрын
First Here! You are nailing it! More on bush flying please ! 👏
@BobDolelol
@BobDolelol Ай бұрын
The more of MSFS 2024 the more excited I can’t and really can’t wait for November 19th 😭 Everything looks so much better and the foliage makes the world look so much better than before 😁 I hope more footage of different areas is coming.
@leroyabernathy9934
@leroyabernathy9934 Ай бұрын
Once upon a time, a long, long, time ago, I managed a commercial glider operation in Texas where I flew the operation's Super Cub tow plane and gave demo glider rides to prospective pilots and fun seekers in the venerable Schweizer SGS 2-33, but there is nothing like a high performance glider. I used to get a tow in our Lark to 3000 AGL and then kick off to soar for hours among the endless cloud streets while listening to classics on my Sony Walkman. (Yeah, it was that long ago). Soaring is by far, the most relaxing type of flying one can do. Like sailing, after learning the basics, proficient soaring is really more art form than just a skill. The challenge is always there and always changing. On the other hand, ag flying and jump planes are the most unrelaxing forms of GA flying one can do and may explain why I could relax totally in a sailplane. I mean, after all, what could happen in a sailplane? The engine might quit? Not really a problem when the aircraft has a 40 or 50 to 1 L/D. Those who "land out" typically don't know what they are doing. I never saw that happen, despite the fact we had pilots take their aircraft on long, all day cross country flights to return just before dark. In some cases reality was even stranger than a sim anomaly. Often I would look out to find a large bird of prey, usually a hawk or a vulture, flying in close formation. Sometimes they would soar off the wingtip, but often I would find the bird giving me the eye just outside the canopy as I thermaled ever higher, close on the stall. I suppose those birds figured if something this big found food, there would something in it for them. I'll put it this way , soaring is the only type of flying I would ever pay to do again and now I have it in the sim where I, uh, pay to do it again. One of the really neat things about the sim is the cross country. I never had a chance to fly cross country, as my position required I stay close to the field. Old habits die hard and at first this is what I did in the sim until I realized the sailplane was equipped with an auxiliary jet engine and I had the teleport feature as well. So I began flying long cross countries. In the sim its was no big deal to catch thermals along the way. Although I would like to see an improvement in ridge lift dynamics. Just leave out those rotors that are most unrelaxing. I had trouble initiating the tow plane launch until I figured out that it was the rudder that signaled the launch, just as it does in nonvirtual life. But whoda thunk it? As I said, it was a long, long, time ago. One thing missing is wake turbulence when on tow. It's hard to "box the wake" when there isn't one. By the way, standard procedure for collision avoidance is for the sailplane to break right upon release while the tow plane breaks hard left to go into a steep, spiraling descent back to the field. Those were the days, long, long, ago. ~ Flyingwrench ~
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
A fantastic tale! I really enjoyed reading this recollection! Thank you for posting it! On the point of wake turbulence, that's a definate feature of 2024, will make towing interesting!
@wiejag
@wiejag Ай бұрын
Condor z jego fizyką i szybowcami w scenerii MSFS - marzenie, które chyba się nigdy nie spełni...
@SkyborneVisions
@SkyborneVisions Ай бұрын
There's no better way to develop "stick and rudder" skills than as a glider pilot. As you said, you're forced to focus on energy management, which also includes scanning the landscape for a place to land if the next thermal or ridge lift doesn't pan out... a good habit to get into as a powered pilot in case of engine failure. The high aspect ratio of the wings means you need to actually use your feet to stay coordinated--which is also a good habit you're forced to become proficient at. Also, you become much better at reading the sky, the terrain and the clouds around you, which not only makes you a better pilot in general for noticing weather patterns "on-the-fly", but makes you a much safer pilot in mountainous conditions, and with that knowledge, taking advantage of (and being mindful of dangers) flying around high altitude terrain with a powered aircraft too. I once heard of light twin that lost an engine over the Sierra Nevada mountain range, but was able to use mountain waves to stay above the mountains which were much higher than its single engine ceiling.
@4secsharkmr352
@4secsharkmr352 Ай бұрын
Ooohhhh, I love it ❤ Thank you very much. Dankeschön
@bethany_dawn5222
@bethany_dawn5222 Ай бұрын
Looks amazing. In FS2020 I flew a lot of ultralights and tried the gliders a few times. Looking forward to the paramoters and gliders in FS2024
@outdoorsdelmarva5691
@outdoorsdelmarva5691 Ай бұрын
I learned to fly Sailplanes in Fulda Germany, the Schweizer 2-33...then on to Glasser-Dirks DG-100...your spot on. Even MSFS 20 does pretty good with gliders, performance and realizm...good job sweeetie!
@uberdenwolken4564
@uberdenwolken4564 Ай бұрын
Who ever made this start with the winch - this is not hoe it is done 😅 Don’t push the stick forward so soon. Wait until you got the maximum height and the glider will level itself. You didn’t even got 30% of the possible altitude. But thanks fir the great content! Very excited to play it 😍 If you are interested in a very realistic glider sim - especially ultra realistic physics - try Condor soaring. Highly recommended in VR. So much better then MSFS except the detail of terrain and texture. But a lot smoother and doesn’t eat your GPU like msfs doas
@StevenHickingbottom
@StevenHickingbottom Ай бұрын
Thanks for supporting gliding and the work that GotFriends have done whilst not forgetting Ian Lewis (B21) for his great avionics. Let's hope that thermals improve in 2024 so that RL memorable flights can be re-enjoyed in the fantastic digital twin that is coming soon. In the meantime ridge soaring in the Alps is a real pleasure in the wonderful AS33 Me which will no doubt be updated for 2024 by Ian Lewis. Let's hope that gliders form part of the Career mode, preferably with the sort of trainer that thousands of us learnt on like the ASK13 or ASK21 before moving on to a more advanced trainer for cross country soaring.
@SkyborneVisions
@SkyborneVisions Ай бұрын
@@paradoxicalcat7173 I seem to get weather radar on the TBM 930 and Beech Duke that correspond to where cumulous clouds are spawned.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
That isn't how it works, nor is that how 2024 works :D
@jui79
@jui79 Ай бұрын
One of the many features I'm really looking forward to. Thanks for pointing that out!
@dannymoore8785
@dannymoore8785 Ай бұрын
Yet another thing to look forward to in the new sim. I appreciate your contributions to our hobby.
@XCougar85X
@XCougar85X Ай бұрын
Looking forward to this. Been in the Airliners and enjoy the programming. But after 2k hours in MFS, even if most was in general aviation, i just can't do airliners anymore as soon as the departure is done, so am i. Would be cool if there was a job type to set up the plane, fly the departure and then finish, say the other pilot takes over. But the gliders and helos are going to be great i think. Even in MFS i managed to have a 2hr flight over south east Krete in a glider. Lot's of updraft from the wind hitting the mountains there. Irl have flown RC only and when i went to RC gliders, that was a whole new way of flying, it is fantastic. A whole different mindset and very different type of fun. I miss that.
@ViewBothSides
@ViewBothSides Ай бұрын
Hello, first time I've heard my name mentioned in a KZbin video (Ian aka B21) so thanks, I'll now wait for the Hollywood offers to roll in. The LS8 & DG1001 are suspiciously similar to how they are in MSFS2020 but there's a possibility those might get an update - the DG is more feasible in terms of instruments as at least that has a panel modelled in. The Stemme (pronounced Shtemma if you want to impress your friends) is a modelling work of genius by GotFriends and I can confirm it has a flightmodel which closely matches the real plane's polar and the vario/nav are the most functionally capable so far including anything so far in the freeware gliders. The Stemme is fun to power launch and transition to glider mode with comfy side by side seating, but probably isn't going to be the glider of choice for the racers, and GotFriends are aware of that. There's a comment below re aerotow launch in MSFS2020 & I have to say I disagree with it, IMHO aerotow being the main thing MS did get pretty decent for gliding in that sim and we all use it routinely. Overall I'm fairly positive for gliding in MSFS2024, it'll be an uptick on 2020 and we're already making good use of that sim. Thanks very much for posting this enjoyable 'review'.
@zeberdee1972
@zeberdee1972 Ай бұрын
I am now quite excited for 2024 now , wasn't so sure at the start but the more and more I see the more I think it's going to be a far better Sim . Cool video as always .
@Newberntrains
@Newberntrains Ай бұрын
so nice to see the grass is not 3 meters above the ground mesh anymore it got so frusterating taxing out and the grass it hovering above you i cant wait to do gliding cause xplane really slacked at it
@wjadams2
@wjadams2 Ай бұрын
I can't wait to try out gliding. It's alright in FS2020. I wish we could tow gliders up. I haven't seen that since Flight Unlimited did it.
@henryluebberstedt7819
@henryluebberstedt7819 Ай бұрын
" I wish we could tow gliders up." MSFS2020 offers winch and air tow. In MP the tow plane can be controlled by anther player, as far as I know.
@MrLuumpy
@MrLuumpy Ай бұрын
Lol. It IS very much in 2020. Tow planes, all of it. add on stuff.
@wjadams2
@wjadams2 Ай бұрын
@@MrLuumpy Interesting. I wasn't aware I could control the tow plane. That's awesome. I'll have to check it out.
@ser_igel
@ser_igel 14 күн бұрын
@@wjadams2 gotfriends has a freemium addon which allows you to be towed by another player's aircraft the main problem with gliders in msfs2020 is the sound it depends on the vertical speed instead of the airspeed and it's confusing and it sucks
@SkyRealms-m5o
@SkyRealms-m5o Ай бұрын
My first gliding lesson was back in 1978 in a Blanik glider :)
@LWJCarroll
@LWJCarroll Ай бұрын
Great News! I was hoping they would do this. Thanks. Laurie. NZ.
@joncoughlin3486
@joncoughlin3486 Ай бұрын
The foliage alone makes the entire world look so much more real
@eckiger_luki6424
@eckiger_luki6424 Ай бұрын
As a real glider pilot that the worst Winch launch i have ever seen but u cant know if yo uhave never done it so still thank you for going into depth about gliding 😄
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
That isn't my launch, that's some B roll Microsoft gave me :D It was quite a low launch tbf, it didn't get any altitude at all.
@eckiger_luki6424
@eckiger_luki6424 Ай бұрын
@@AvAngel okay thats crazy haha 😂 thats not even a low launch thats a completly failed extremly dangerous launch he should have pulled up after lifting off and passing the trees he had like 10% of the height. IRL you would probably be dead or had an Outlanding if you did that
@flightsimulatoradventures7246
@flightsimulatoradventures7246 Ай бұрын
I came here to say this 😂. Loved winching the bf3 in the early 2000s.
@eckiger_luki6424
@eckiger_luki6424 Ай бұрын
@@paradoxicalcat7173 I think its gonna be a big improovement but still not perfect. Its crazy that Official MSFS footage contains a completly failed launch and Glider Flights. They let somebody who doesnt know anything about gliding fly for the footage... In msfs 2020 the LS8 had tons of buggs the termals were extremly bad i hope they do it properly.
@flightsimulatoradventures7246
@flightsimulatoradventures7246 Ай бұрын
@@eckiger_luki6424 same with the helicopter footage 😂😭
@stefanblackadder5236
@stefanblackadder5236 Ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out. Like me, if you’re new to gliding in the sim there’s not much help out there. Lots of videos on lots of planes but very little help with gliding. I hope that changes because the learning curve can be significant.
@gliderfan6196
@gliderfan6196 Ай бұрын
Try Condor 2 simulator. It is dedicated for gliders and has a community ready to help you
@cemerson
@cemerson 29 күн бұрын
The thing MSFS really needs for gliding is support for competitions, multiplayer races etc. Hopefully the weather model has improved because it wasn't great before, and flight model updates and modelling local assets etc is one thing, but what glider pilots want from a simulator is the ability to race using checkpoints. I hope this is something easy for the developers to add in later if it isn't in the released game.
@SparkySven
@SparkySven Ай бұрын
Great informative video and makes me look even extra forward to MSFS2024. Hope we can all join like an open beta aka technical test version late October what they mention in of the many interview video's I watched.
@SaltySpaceKitten
@SaltySpaceKitten Ай бұрын
One of the most things I am looking forward in MSFS2024 is the improvement for better gliding experience with more realistic weather and thermals along with better physics.
@henryluebberstedt7819
@henryluebberstedt7819 Ай бұрын
Nice to see an exotic glider like the Stemme, much nicer would have been ordinary gliders like LS4, ASK21 or an ASW20. Or one of these beautiful classic gliders like the Glasfluegel Libelle. Anyway the holy grail of simulating soaring is the interaction between ground, clouds and thermals.
@mark_delfino
@mark_delfino Ай бұрын
Libelle, oh yes. Would also like a K6 and pretty much any of the wooden stuff
@henryluebberstedt7819
@henryluebberstedt7819 Ай бұрын
@@mark_delfino Yepp the Libelle is something. We have one in our club. Elegant lady. I bought a Glasfluegel 206 Hornet this year. Built in December 1975. Also a special bird with its trailing edge airbrakes and parallelogram control stick. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGWymJKVbMiLeMUsi=obllWa_SaqXSX1z9
@gliderfan6196
@gliderfan6196 Ай бұрын
My thoughts, exactly. Some Polish gliders would be nice to have too. Pirat, Foka, Puchacz, Bocian. Or Czech ones like Blanik.
@tedstriker4278
@tedstriker4278 Ай бұрын
Id like to see my 24b in there, but till then im ok with flying those super expensive ones in the sim, that i can never afford 😊
@henryluebberstedt7819
@henryluebberstedt7819 Ай бұрын
@@tedstriker4278 I can't afford an ASW 24 :-D At least not one in an excellent condition.
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois Ай бұрын
"Standard instrument departure to your bed for 8 hours" 🤣🤣🤣
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Too harsh?
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois Ай бұрын
@@AvAngelNaaaaaa.. 😉
@gliderfan6196
@gliderfan6196 Ай бұрын
@@AvAngel Actually, brilliant!
@notaspectator
@notaspectator Ай бұрын
thank you kindly for your video and chill voice.
@shinkicker404
@shinkicker404 Ай бұрын
That intro, haha... feeling right positively attacked here! But srsly, I got the Got Friends gliders in 2020, really quite liked them... its good fun drifting from place to place with nothing but the wind and the variometer to keep you comapny... need to use them more. Seeing that map and other stuff here makes me excited to give them a whirl in 2024 again.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
:D All in good fun!
@galaxytraveler5779
@galaxytraveler5779 Ай бұрын
I thought I was done with computer games, but apparently I am not. This looks incredible.
@payt01
@payt01 Ай бұрын
What fun! I'm gonna try some ridge soaring again in the sim tonight. If you've ever watched some of Bruno Vassels'videos.. it's an awesome pasttime!I just need to get me one of those silly hats that glider pilots wear, for complete immersion :)
@folkenvanvanel6611
@folkenvanvanel6611 Ай бұрын
i hate them. i prefer the baseball caps with a short rim and no knob on top. I frequently turn them backwards when i need to concentrate, or forwards for sun protection.
@elkcircle7245
@elkcircle7245 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. I was clutching the sides of my seat during those 51 knot glides a couple of hundred feet above the ground, thinking when are you going to land. Need to pull back much more on the winch launch. Looks nice but will remain very marginal for real glider pilots until we get proper thermals, ridge lift, etc which can be properly modeled into the flight. Until then Condor will remain the standard and of course Condor includes multiplayer contest flying which is an essential element for many sailplane pilots.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
That's the point... we're getting proper thermals, ridge lift, and all the trimmings :) (This clip isn't my flying, its stock footage)
@NE-76
@NE-76 Ай бұрын
Traumhaft,Danke für Dein Video!!!!!!!!!!👍👍👍🙂
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Gern geschehen!
@beosliege
@beosliege Ай бұрын
I love your channel, thanks
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Thank you too!
@therealsirdj5934
@therealsirdj5934 Ай бұрын
I never been much into the big commercial airliners in MSFS. I may never have actually played the game, however I watched a lot of MSFS 2020 and ngl: Just sitting in front of a Livestream for 8 hours, watching a plane fly itself from A to B never was that intresting to me (and that's even though I only got into Aviation, because my dad actually works for Airbus Finkenwerder, where he once upon a time helped build the A380)... But the more time I spend watching MSFS content (and just aviation content in general) the more I realized how fascinating it is watching a guy fly through some of the most remote places ever (looking at you Alaska) or, how much thought actually goes into gliding around
@3A--Axel
@3A--Axel Ай бұрын
"If flying were the language of men, then soaring would be its poetry."
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
I love that :)
@trolloloization
@trolloloization Ай бұрын
Crossing the Andes in a glider was really the best thing I've ever done in msfs
@minus5m
@minus5m Ай бұрын
"It is truely a relaxing experience" he says while gliding 100ft over the treeline towards a town (1:36)
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Not my footage lol
@scee1871
@scee1871 Ай бұрын
Is the "view system" the same. One thing I hate about MSFS is trying to get the camera to do what I want, compared to the simplicity of DCS.
@Pharadoxon
@Pharadoxon 10 күн бұрын
Is the thermal simulation also improved? I mean like if you seeking under clouds for example? in 2020 it was not feeling really well made and that's a big part of the Glider experience
@AvAngel
@AvAngel 10 күн бұрын
That is what they said yes.
@Lazengogh
@Lazengogh Ай бұрын
i hope there will still be some turbulence, not the way it existed in msfs2020, but in more realistic discrete manner.... something like what a2a simulations did with the comanche.... now all promo material of 2024 seem to be without turbulence... i hope they did not go to the other extreme, having basicly no turbulence
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
basically we had stock weather, so its really hard to even tell
@KAPAFlyer
@KAPAFlyer Ай бұрын
You crashes into an ACTUAL cornfield?! My god, the new groundwork is absolutely amazing.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Not me :D That's stock B-roll sadly :D but the physics look cool!
@kekke2000
@kekke2000 Ай бұрын
There is a small video glitch at around 5:55 and onwards. I don't know if it's even fixable afterwards. No biggie but I assume you wanted to show the cockpit and avionics.
@cloudbaseengineering4712
@cloudbaseengineering4712 Ай бұрын
Holy Cow... I was about to buy Condor 2 and Condor 3 is around the corner but this might trump that with all the LX Nav stuff enabled. When does this come out?
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
19th November
@stevejones924
@stevejones924 Ай бұрын
Hi Angel A....what is this new Quest 3 "S" thats now all over KZbin? Is it a cheaper version of VR for MFS2020/2024?
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
No clue, I had the Rift S, Quest is a new thing? i don't follow VR myself.
@stevejones924
@stevejones924 Ай бұрын
@@AvAngel It might be for smaller platform stuff, less involved gaming. Do you do Tobi Eye Tracker? Hey, thanks for the quick response.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
I do not, I use Grass Monkey Simulations Pick head tracker.
@markbolam1383
@markbolam1383 Ай бұрын
im looking forward to hot air balloons
@IrdinSilverbow
@IrdinSilverbow Ай бұрын
I am not a fan of commercial aviation. I prefer general aviation and bush flying. I am very excited about trying gliders in 2024.
@lmb5529bml
@lmb5529bml Ай бұрын
I would love to se an aerobatic glider like the Swift S1. I'm trying to start my glider pilot license but might not be able to get my medical due to ADHD and meds.
@bruceirving7080
@bruceirving7080 Ай бұрын
If you are in the US, no medical certificate is required for any glider rating.
@lmb5529bml
@lmb5529bml Ай бұрын
@@bruceirving7080 I live in Brazil. Here it's required a class 4 medical.
@chrisevans-nodd
@chrisevans-nodd Ай бұрын
While I enjoyed the information in this video, watching the stock Asobo gliding footage made me very uncomfortable. Super low, zero attempt to find lift, was clearly being flown by someone with no gliding experience. That said though, it was good to hear that at least one of the main Asobo developers did actually do some gliding in the past. It was also super cool to hear Ian Lewis' name being mentioned as well as Got Friends. I'm remaining optimistic about soaring in MSFS 24, its certainly a great opportunity for the devs to address our issues with the current state of gliding in the sim. Looking forward to giving it a try in November.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
I'm afraid I'm very limited on what footage I'm able to use at this stage. I had a hour to record at the event and otherwise, stock B-roll, You'll see a lot of it at the moment :S
@chrisevans-nodd
@chrisevans-nodd Ай бұрын
That's what I figured. Very informative video, despite with the B-roll footage. Always good to see folks posting about gliding in the sim.
@matth6163
@matth6163 18 күн бұрын
Can I ask where you got your list of glider airports?
@AvAngel
@AvAngel 18 күн бұрын
Adobo themselves
@gliderfan6196
@gliderfan6196 Ай бұрын
With all due respect, calling the unfinished, unlaunched product "the most realistic gliding ever" is a bit of an overstatement. Have you ever tried Condor 2? This sim is dedicated to gliders, you cannot fly anything else, and the thermals, waves, and generally speaking, atmospheric simulation is something MSFS and X-Plane can only dream of. For two years, the gliding community has been asking for the implementation of gliders into MSFS. Then there was a great update and - in my tongue, we have the saying "the mountain gave birth to a mouse". It was terrible, the thermals were modelled all wrong, they did not react correctly to the time of day, wind direction, surface, cloud coverage and the like. The relationship between thermals and clouds, if any, did not reflect the real world. Ridge soaring was modelled in an unrealistic way. That is why there is no glider pilot I know of who would use MSFS for leisure flying or for training. All glider pilots, including the pros, like instructors and competition racers, use Condor 2 for training and fun. I have no financial interest in C2, to make things straight. I simply do not believe the '24 would be any better in this respect. I hope it will be, but MSFS/Asobo already failed in this department. And, last but not least, the selection of gliders is far from impressive. These things are not glider pilots (of course, I cannot speak for everyone) would like to see. But what I would welcome would be Blanik, BOciam, Junior, Puchacz, Diana, ASK, ASW (many variants), Ka, and so on. Good birds that are still used in many Clubs everywhere, flying history and at the same time the present day reality. Those rare experimental motor gliders are... well strange. What is the chance that I could ever fly in the real thing? Second to none. The whole purpose of flying the sim is to pursue the dream, to feed the dream that becomes the urge, that becomes that imperative and one day you find yourself in the real thing...
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Hopefully we will see many of those made for the 3rd party market. No one genre of aircraft gets tons of options by default so no there’s not many. Why call it the best? Because it’s going to be a huge leap forward . Remember I’ve actually played it, this isn’t hyperbole
@gliderfan6196
@gliderfan6196 Ай бұрын
@@AvAngel But have you played other glider-dedicated sims (there are also Silent Wings and little something from Aerosoft I cannot remember the name; very good behaviour but very limited world; it is on Steam). The comparison would be great thing to have.
@SkyborneVisions
@SkyborneVisions Ай бұрын
I too am very curious how MSFS 2024 will compare with the physics and weather of Condor 2. If Asobo could get weather physics on the same level as Condor 2, it would improve realism for all aircraft on the sim.
@bird.9346
@bird.9346 Ай бұрын
I always found it funny that they couldn't even get the yawstrings right. The asobo ones work nonsensically and are nearly unreadable. Though it looks better in 2024. Hopefully they do make some solid improvements, but I do have a feeling it'll be a little underwhelming. Would be great to have the Puchacz
@gliderfan6196
@gliderfan6196 Ай бұрын
@@SkyborneVisions Sure thing, this will be for the benefit of all
@animaxima8302
@animaxima8302 Ай бұрын
interestingly, they have added all kinds of fauna BUT birds
@pdeswardt
@pdeswardt Ай бұрын
What's up with the blurred and smeared shadows on the ground of the glider towards the end of the video. Looks horrendous. I hope this can be fixed before release
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
It's called unknown graphcs settings :D
@matty3676
@matty3676 3 күн бұрын
Real glider pilot here and that flying scenes gave me anxiety
@AvAngel
@AvAngel 3 күн бұрын
Blame Microsoft who shot the footage lol
@AirJoe
@AirJoe Ай бұрын
I fly gliders in real life (check my channel) I really hope they have better mechanics on gliders here. In 2020 the aerotow was broken and the thermals didn't exist. Condor 2 is much more realistic but the graphics and world map sucks.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
It does seem significantly better
@hangflyer907
@hangflyer907 Ай бұрын
Maybe this will be the impetus to get the Condor Soaring Simulator guys off their butts to finish Condor 3 and get it released.
@AirJoe
@AirJoe Ай бұрын
@@hangflyer907 yes hopefully
@devnull-uk
@devnull-uk Ай бұрын
In 2020 at launch, you’re right, no thermals, but they were added later, and aero tow was much improved too n
@cessna18284
@cessna18284 Ай бұрын
Well. The drawdistance of the grass and crops on the fields seems very low. I hope this is not the max you can get.
@NotJulius44
@NotJulius44 Ай бұрын
i'm sold
@monostripezebras
@monostripezebras Ай бұрын
moar gliding is never wrong
@managed9348
@managed9348 Ай бұрын
Me waiting on the Saab 340 and the ATR update😶
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Ngl, fancy me some Saab too. ATR... i could never get the throttles to behave >>
@johnsgliderworld
@johnsgliderworld Ай бұрын
But will it accurately simulate going through a barbed wire fence on an outlanding.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Haha not sure
@HelmutBemboka
@HelmutBemboka Ай бұрын
Shame they didn't add the electric Taurus
@buikhan
@buikhan Ай бұрын
Look like the world is not all photogrammetry. What else did you try at the event, AvAngel?
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
It never was going to all be photogrammetry, its still a blend like 2020. What else? not much! We didn't get a lot of time! My own flying was limited to float, some bush, and some heli, i didn't get chance to touch more other than some menu digging.
@IonizedSun
@IonizedSun Ай бұрын
The winch launch was not very realistic 😂 but can't wait to see the Stemme ingame.
@garyspeed8961
@garyspeed8961 Ай бұрын
no old school gliders?
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Not stock
@Jannik_Stein
@Jannik_Stein Ай бұрын
I flew gliders for two years in real life. I didn't like it, I now moved to engined planes. But I'm very excited to fly general aviation planes in FS24
@BlueJayHotelRBX
@BlueJayHotelRBX Ай бұрын
How do you have access to it. It doesn't release till november.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Because as I said in the previous video, I was kindly invited to the global preview event by Xbox. This is where I recorded footage, was given presentations on it and shown content from the sim.
@BlueJayHotelRBX
@BlueJayHotelRBX Ай бұрын
@@AvAngel Ohhh. Sorry I haven't watched your last video yet.
@ANDREDEMENEZES-mr5tj
@ANDREDEMENEZES-mr5tj Ай бұрын
Obrigado!
@victorwargnysoaring806
@victorwargnysoaring806 Ай бұрын
hopefully you can actually use tge doors on aircraft now😂
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
In a fair few I tested yes.
@victorwargnysoaring806
@victorwargnysoaring806 Ай бұрын
@@AvAngel does this also apply to gliders?
@The1PatSmith
@The1PatSmith Ай бұрын
Thank you 💓 💓 💓 !
@gregroom100
@gregroom100 Ай бұрын
One thing I haven't heard a lot about. I've got a PC myself but what about the Xbox pilots nobody's talked about them not even KZbinrs
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
I mean, there's nothing to talk about between PC and Xbox currently... because this sim is... the same for both. We've only been able to test on pc, and I am a PC pilot so... yeah, nothing to say?
@ceoverona1929
@ceoverona1929 Ай бұрын
Stemme is pronounced "Shtemme". also at the end it is pronounced with "e" and not with "i"/"y" It's a german name😉
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
My bad :D It was said that way to me so I repeated it, but I blame Americans for that :D I'd have said it differently with a Sch
@TheMaierHias
@TheMaierHias Ай бұрын
I think in terms of graphics this game will be a big disappointment to most of us. When i see at what distance the details of the fields load in I assume there won't be a big difference to msfs 2020 in most cases.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
I can’t even tell you what the settings are in these clips but I’ve seen a variety so it’s not straightforward
@folkenvanvanel6611
@folkenvanvanel6611 Ай бұрын
I hope the people that program the gliders have more understanding about soaring than the people flying the gliders in the video footage. Low, slow, aweful winch launch. The outlanding demonstrated 0 knowledge, of field or approach selection, speed selection.. even the field direction was completely wrong. The physics felt aweful on that outlanding.. if you put a DG 1000 (of all gliders) on its nose in any situation. The thing needs 3 people on the nose to lift the tail.. has a 60cm or so high gear... ) At least soaring in MSFS2020 felt.. clunky. I hope to be proven wrong.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Yeah that's stock footage, probaly someone just doing a quick test flight. From what i know it's absolutely a bad example, but the ONLY example I had of gliders in 24.
@porkfang
@porkfang Ай бұрын
I want to see a glider do 430 kts!!
@VoyagerSimProject
@VoyagerSimProject Ай бұрын
✅ ☑ 🏁
@pawemyniec6808
@pawemyniec6808 Ай бұрын
Dat voice :/
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
Is amazing, I know.
@Swaggerlot
@Swaggerlot Ай бұрын
Gliding simulation will never be any good until they really perfect a new force feedback joystick. No value whatsoever without it, bar the cosmetic.
@MrLuumpy
@MrLuumpy Ай бұрын
Trees in places they obviously shouldn't be. Different day, different sim, same sim issues. Good grief.
@AvAngel
@AvAngel Ай бұрын
it's autogen, it cannot be perfect all the time, its the planet, have some paitence.
@gorillachinchilla1668
@gorillachinchilla1668 Ай бұрын
​@@AvAngel Well said!
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